Armenian Food

[Yervant1]

But my chick pea salad has no tahini...

But when you boil chick peas or use canned ones they are in water, because they have great ability to absorb water plus the preservatives does that for you.

The best way to use it is the yellow roasted ones because they absorb all the liquid in your stomach.

[vava]

But when you boil chick peas or use canned ones they are in water, because they have great ability to absorb water plus the preservatives does that for you.

The best way to use it is the yellow roasted ones because they absorb all the liquid in your stomach.

 

Yeah - i usually boil them... that must be the trouble.

[Yervant1]

Yeah - i usually boil them... that must be the trouble.

Vava after you boil it put it for a little while in the oven on a tray, that will evaporate part of the water.

This might solve your problem.

[Stormig]

The best way to use it is the yellow roasted ones because they absorb all the liquid in your stomach.

That's what I had on my mind.

 

Nothin' much, Vavik. You?

[Takoush]

The conventional rice and tea helps me a lot, but if you by any chance caught a bug, the best thing to do is wash it down with a lot, I mean a lot of water. With some bugs even antibiotics don't help as much as the washing down your system with a great deal of water. I have seen a documentary where the child could have been saved when she caught salmonella if she drank a great deal of water and constantly.

 

Also eating toasted bread or any bread with water the second day should clear it up if it's a severe case.

Edited June 30, 2006 by Anahid Takouhi

[MosJan]

just gom me a new book frome Armenia

 

Hajkakan Xohanots

by E. A. Thangyan

 

nice book

[Arpa]

Sireli Yedvard,

Apres :)!

You get an A+.

And now, for "ham"?

I had totally forgotten about this.

Give up?

I gave the hint above using "apukht" (meanin uncooked) as a model.

Ham-Khoz-a-pukht/ Խոզապուխտ

[Sassun]

Some time ago somebody said that Herisa is prepared with "chicken meat".

Foul! Fowl! :)

Bernid karmir piper!

If that is not the blasphemy/hyahoyanq of the ages!

The chicken variety may be the result of the laatest ant-red meat fad.

Real herisa is prepared with the reddest of red meat, be it mutton or beef.

Hmm interesting, I have never had it any other way except chicken meat.

 

My mom's the best cook.

[Sassun]

Some time ago somebody said that Herisa is prepared with "chicken meat".

Foul! Fowl! :)

Bernid karmir piper!

If that is not the blasphemy/hyahoyanq of the ages!

The chicken variety may be the result of the laatest ant-red meat fad.

Real herisa is prepared with the reddest of red meat, be it mutton or beef.

Hmm interesting, I have never had it any other way except chicken meat.

 

My mom's the best cook.

[gamavor]

http://grouper.com/video/MediaDetails.aspx?id=389439

 

Pari Akhorzhak

[MosJan]

Gamavor it's 1AM

[Chill'em]

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Koko,

 

Any Greek will declare war to Armenia for the appropriation of “Dolma.” images/smiles/converted/icon_smile.gif The word "Dolma" itself originates from the Greek language, as far as I know.

 

Don't know about the rest of the items in your list.

 

 

HI THERE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, DOLMA COMES FROM THE TURKISCH VERB: "DOLDURMAK" WHICH MEANS, TO FILL. DOLMA MEANS SOMETHING LIKE, FILLED

[MosJan]

turkey recipe for thankgiving

 

HAPPY THANKSGIVING..........Here is a recipe I thought you would like

for the holidays!

 

 

 

 

Ingredients:

 

 

1 whole chicken or turkey

1 large lemon, cut into halves

sprig of rosemary

salt and pepper to taste

butter or olive oil, whichever you prefer

 

Heat oven to 350 degrees.

 

Rub butter or oil over the skin of the chicken/turkey until it is

completely coated.

 

Sprinkle with salt and pepper and any other seasonings you prefer.

 

Take a knife and gently separate the skin from the breastmeat;

 

Slide lemon halves under the skin with the peel side up, one on each

side.

 

This way the juice from the lemon will release into the breastmeat.

 

Place sprig of rosemary into the chicken/turkey.

 

Cover and bake for 30-45 minutes. Remove cover and continue to roast

 

until juices run clear, basting every 15-20 minutes.

 

If you've followed these steps correctly, your chicken/turkey should

 

look like the one in the picture.

 

Bon Appetit!

[Armenak]

It's khash season!

[Anoushik]

Don't we have a separate food section?

 

Anyway... will someone, who has a lot of experience in Wikipedia (Domino?) please be willing to edit the "Dolma" section in Wikipedia?

 

My mom has been telling me so many times that there are no questions about the whereabouts of some certain so-called "Mediterranean" cuisines. My mom read the book of a famous culinary researcher, with the last name Pohlebkin, who concluded that tolma is exclusively Armenian, and the Armenian cuisine has been carried over to the neighboring regions. After watching a recent Martha Stewart show, in which a Greek chef made vegetarian tolma, taken from his new published book about Greek cuisine, and since looking up dolma in Wikipedia today, my mom prompted me to find Pohlebkin online. In Wikipedia they spell his last name Pokhlebkin.

 

I found his book online. Here's the translated version.

 

Here's a great source to cite that tolma is in fact Armenian. Maybe I should email Martha Stewart.

[Takoush]

Don't we have a separate food section?

 

Anyway... will someone, who has a lot of experience in Wikipedia (Domino?) please be willing to edit the "Dolma" section in Wikipedia?

 

My mom has been telling me so many times that there are no questions about the whereabouts of some certain so-called "Mediterranean" cuisines. My mom read the book of a famous culinary researcher, with the last name Pohlebkin, who concluded that tolma is exclusively Armenian, and the Armenian cuisine has been carried over to the neighboring regions. After watching a recent Martha Stewart show, in which a Greek chef made vegetarian tolma, taken from his new published book about Greek cuisine, and since looking up dolma in Wikipedia today, my mom prompted me to find Pohlebkin online. In Wikipedia they spell his last name Pokhlebkin.

 

I found his book online. Here's the translated version.

 

Here's a great source to cite that tolma is in fact Armenian. Maybe I should email Martha Stewart.

 

Anoushik jan:

 

Since I am one of the people who is in authority on Dolma's or Tolma's, I looked into the Wikipedia and though I tried to edit it and saved it; but couldn't find it afterwards. I think Domino has to help us here.

 

But here is the link and also the edited link part.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/Dolma#Names_and_etymology

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...t&section=1

Edited December 20, 2006 by Anahid Takouhi

[Arpa]

Please Aanahid et al.

If we are talking about Armenian Food can we stop using Turkish WORDS like dolma, sarma and kaksturma?

Look again.

I said Turkish WORDS. Let me repeat WORDS/NAMES!! Damn it!!

Why is it so difficult to understand that dolma sarma and kaksturma are Turkish words??!!

Do we know the Armenian Language?

Is there such a thing?

If we have no Armenian words for those native Armenian delicacies then let us throw the whole menu in the sewers of Istanbul.

The least we can do, we can at least do what the Greeks have done adding -tes to dolma, dolma-tes, sarma-tes etc, and may be add "anush" like dolma-nush, sarma-nush etc.

In short. Let us stop speaking about those dishes with Turkish NAMES, once again, NAMES and stop me throwing up all over the keyboard.

Am I getting my message across? We are talking about names and language, not whose inevention the cuisine is.

Edited December 20, 2006 by Arpa

[Takoush]

Vay Arpa jan vay vay; OH BOY!!!! Yes moratsa aghparig.....DEREVE LITSK...DEREVE LITSK.....DEREVE LITSK.....

 

Himag chelles ints dsedses

 

Ede esav N.J. bidi kaq poloret kez al bidi pere esav.... mege chegav hos vor yes al tsezi

 

D E R E V E..... L I T S K badrasdeyi yev nayev KHASH!!!!!!!

 

Eh orme yerp voroshek kal tsez hamov hodov DEREVE LITSK ge badrasdem yev ge heramtsenem!!!

Edited December 20, 2006 by Anahid Takouhi

[Arpa]

Vay Arpa jan vay vay; OH BOY!!!! Yes moratsa aghparig.....DEREVE LITSK...DEREVE LITSK.....DEREVE LITSK.....

 

Himag chelles ints dsedses

 

Ede esav N.J. bidi kaq poloret kez al bidi pere esav.... mege chegav hos vor yes al tsezi

 

D E R E V E..... L I T S K badrasdeyi yev nayev KHASH!!!!!!!

 

Eh orme yerp voroshek kal tsez hamov hodov DEREVE LITSK ge badrasdem yev ge heramtsenem!!!

Voch, Voch Aanhit. Qez chem tstselou. Ayl tstselou em ayd tsavar@.

Moratsar?

Yete qo qit@ veratsnes ayd trkaragan kakin mejen ayn aten goutse hishes vor ays forum@ Haykakan e yev menq hayeren k@ khosink, voch te ayd dolma, sarma kaksturma lezou.

Khndrem indz ci hravirel aynqan aten or seghani vra piti @lla dolma/qounva,, sarma/marqounva ev marqunats kaksturma.

Khndrem indz hravirel erb ayd seghan@ lits e LITS-ov, TEREV-ov yev APOUKHT-ov, yev inchou che? Ayd mshtenchenakan yerknayin KHASHOV..

Minch ayd yes piti outem pasta, pizza, hot dog yev hamburger. Qone anonq trkagan anoun, let me repeat ANOUN, goddam it!!! ANOUN, LEZOU, LANGUAGE! chounen.

HOW CAN I GET THIS f*****, MESSAGE ACROSS!!!

Don't anyone even dare tell me that "dolma" is an Armenian dish unless they also tell me what the Armenian WORD for it is.

 

The next time anyone tells us that dolma, sarma and kaksturma are (linguisticallyspeaking) Armenian dishes, I will personally see that the Pasta Fazul mafia gang personally fit them with cement shoes.

Edited December 21, 2006 by MosJan

[Takoush]

Hanqesdatsour hokit.....aha derevi litske kezi

[Anoushik]

Please Aanahid et al.

If we are talking about Armenian Food can we stop using Turkish WORDS like dolma, sarma and kaksturma?

Please, Arpa, don't get mad. The fact is that people know terevi litsk as tolma/dolma. The best we can do is to inform people that the origin of those dishes are Armenian. And maybe then we can change the name. Otherwise it's so typical of us Armenians to just quiet down and pull to a corner and say that it's our fate that the whole world knows nothing about us. Especially now, when everyone's so interested to know about the origin or things, peoples, languages, cultures, and why not, also food. What's wrong with informing the world that dolma is in fact Armenian? I'm sure most everyone will appreciate to know the truth.

[Anoushik]

Don't anyone even dare tell me that "dolma" is an Armenian dish unless they also tell me what the Armenian WORD for it is.

I don't agree with you. It's a typical Armenian's unfortunate mentality that you exhibit here. And it's not only about food, as I'm sure you know pretty well.

[Anoushik]

Anoushik jan:

 

Since I am one of the people who is in authority on Dolma's or Tolma's, I looked into the Wikipedia and though I tried to edit it and saved it; but couldn't find it afterwards. I think Domino has to help us here.

 

But here is the link and also the edited link part.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/Dolma#Names_and_etymology

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...t&section=1

Anahid, thanks. I'm not sure if I can edit Wikipedia. I thought I had to be a registered member to edit.

[Aubépine]

Anahid, thanks. I'm not sure if I can edit Wikipedia. I thought I had to be a registered member to edit.

 

Anyone can edit Wikipedia articles. But being a registered member give you additional benefits such as moving or renaming entries. Personally I think you should start a new article with that name you're mentioning instead of editing that site since the veracity of that claim is debatable. Someone else will reedit it as soon as possible or possibly even delete it. It's difficult to pinpoint the origins of dishes anyway, especially when nationalistic rhetoric is involved.

[HyeFedayis]

quote:

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Originally posted by koko:

"Dolma" worldknown armenian food, wich of course other cultures like turkey has embraced as there nationalfood.

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Koko,

 

Any Greek will declare war to Armenia for the appropriation of “Dolma.” images/smiles/converted/icon_smile.gif The word "Dolma" itself originates from the Greek language, as far as I know.

 

Don't know about the rest of the items in your list.

 

No it is not first of all the word comes from Turkish meaning to stuff.

 

And dolma originated in the ottoman cuisine many countries were under the ottoman empire such as armenia for decades and they claim it to be theres which i think is ridiculous.