The truth about Syria

[Arpa]

Any word from our friend Johaness? I can't skype anyone over there!

 

AH!!! Is it Easter already, Resurrection time? Is it spring, a time for birds?

Dear Hagop, so good to see you and your “ugly/beautiful face” I wish you would stay, as this forum much like others is in a deep death nap, mahaqoun. Seems like the forum era is fast becoming a matter of history,.**

I miss the likes of you and Johannes as well, I hope he is doing well, I haven’t seen him for almost a month in another forum as well.

Hagop, I wish I had a direct access to you. Is your phone number in the 818 area? Please write to me in private.. See if Movses will give you my E-mail.

**I have my opinions about the matter that will remain unsaid here.

[MosJan]

'Sexual jihad': Tunisian women go to Syria to 'relieve' holy warriors, return pregnant

 

Tunisian women have traveled to Syria to wage 'sexual jihad', performing intercourse with dozens of Islamist fighters and returning home pregnant, Tunisia’s Interior Minister Lotfi ben Jeddou told MPs.

The Tunisian girls “are [sexually] swapped between 20, 30, and 100 rebels and they come back bearing the fruit of sexual contacts in the name of sexual jihad and we are silent doing nothing and standing idle,” the minister said during an address to the National Constituent Assembly on Thursday.

 

"After the sexual liaisons they have there in the name of 'jihad al-nikah' [sexual holy war] they come home pregnant," ben Jeddou continued.

 

Ben Jeddo did not elaborate on how many Tunisian women had returned to the country pregnant with the children of jihadist fighters.

 

Former Mufti of Tunisia Sheikh Othman Battikh in April said that 13 Tunisian girls “were fooled” into traveling to Syria to offer their sexual services to rebels fighters.

 

The mufti, who was subsequently dismissed from his post, described the so-called “sexual Jihad” as a form of “prostitution.”

 

“For jihad in Syria, they are now pushing girls to go there. Thirteen young girls have been sent for sexual jihad. What is this? This is called prostitution. It is moral educational corruption,” Al Arabiya cites the mufti as saying.

 

Some Sunni Muslim Salafists, however, consider sexual jihad as a legitimate form of holy war.

 

The sexual Jihad Fatwa made its first appearance in Syria several months back. It allows for fighters to enter sexual relations with a woman after agreeing upon a temporary contract that loses effect after a few hours, Fars News reported in August.

 

The temporary nature of the contract allows the woman to have sex with multiple partners a day.

 

In August, general director of public security service in Tunisia Mostafa Bin Omar said that a “sexual jihad cell” had been broken up in an area west of the country known for its concentration of Al-Qaeda fighters.

 

Bin Omar told Al Arabiya that Al-Qaeda affiliate Ansar Shariah was offering minor girls with their faces covered as sexual offerings for jihadist fighters.

 

Meanwhile, Bin Jeddo said the Interior Ministry has banned 6,000 Tunisians from traveling to Syria since March 2013. Eighty-six more individuals had been arrested on suspicion of forming 'networks' that send Tunisian youth for 'jihad' to Syria.

 

He also hit back at human rights groups who criticized the government’s decision to ban suspected militants from leaving the country. Many of those facing travel bans are under 35 years of age, he said.

 

“Our youths are positioned in the frontlines and are taught how to steal and raid [syrian] villages,” Bin Jeddo said.

 

Hundreds of Tunisian men have set off for Syria to wage jihad against the government of President Bashar Assad, while thousands more have joined the ranks of militant Islamists in states like Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 15 years.

[Yervant1]

One word PIGS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Yervant1]

ARMENIAN CATHOLIC PRELACY OF DAMASCUS BOMBED

- September 18, 2013

ARMENPRESS. The Armenian Catholic Prelacy of Damascus became a
target of bombing on September 17. Our compatriot Nazaret Elmajian
resident in Damascus informed "Armenpress" that the third floor
of the building was heavily damaged; "Luys" and "Paros" colleges,
located in the surroundings of the prelacy, have also been damaged. In
addition Nazaret Elmajian underscored that fortunately nobody was
hurt in the bombing. Notwithstanding, the surrounding Arab districts
have also been bombed, where five men died. No Armenians have been
listed among the casualties. As to the current situation in Damascus,
Nazaret Elmajian underscored that the clashes continue in the Jobar
and Brze districts. The situation in the central districts is calm.

http://www.armenianlife.com/2013/09/18/armenian-catholic-prelacy-of-damascus-bombed/

[Yervant1]

12:20 26/09/2013 » Analysis

Homemade sarin was used in attack near Damascus – Lavrov

Russia has enough evidence to assert that homemade sarin was used on August 21 in a chemical attack near Damascus, the same type but in higher concentration than in an Aleppo incident earlier this year, Russian FM Sergey Lavrov said, according to Russia Today.

“On the occasion of the incident in the vicinity of Aleppo on March 19, 2013 when the United Nations, under the pressure of some Security Council members, didn’t respond to the request of the Syrian government to send inspectors to investigate, Russia, at the request of the Syrian government, investigated that case, and this report, i.e. the results of this investigation are broadly available to the Security Council and publicly,” Lavrov said.

“The main conclusion is that the type of sarin used in that incident was homemade. We also have evidence to assert that the type of sarin used on August 21 was the same, only of higher concentration.”

The minister said he had recently presented his US counterpart John Kerry with the latest compilation of evidence, which was an analysis of publicly available information.

“The reports by the journalists who visited the sites, who talked to the combatants, combatants telling the journalists that they were given some unusual rockets and munitions by some foreign country and they didn’t know how to use them. You have also the evidence from the nuns serving in a monastery nearby who visited the site. You can read the evidence and the assessments by the chemical weapons experts who say that the images shown do not correspond to a real situation if chemical weapons were used. And we also know about an open letter sent to President Obama by former operatives of the CIA and the Pentagon saying that the assertion that it was the government that used the chemical weapons was a fake.”

Lavrov emphasized that Russia stands fully committed to implementing the Geneva framework of September 14, a bilateral agreement with the United States to move forward with the destruction of Syrian chemical weapons stockpiles under the Chemical Weapons Organization’s supervision.

The foreign minister, however, reminded that the agreement did not suggest adopting any UN resolution that mentions immediate UN Chapter 7 measures against Syria, or rather the potential for the use of military force.

“We set in that framework which we agreed in Geneva that we would be very serious about any violation of the obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention, we would be very serious about any use of chemical weapons by anyone in Syria and that those issues would be brought to the Security Council under Chapter 7.”

Source: Panorama.am

[Yervant1]

RAKKA ISLAMISTS PLACED THEIR FLAG INSTEAD OF CROSS ON ARMENIAN CHURCH

http://armenpress.am/eng/news/734587/rakka-islamists-placed-their-flag-instead-of-cross-on-armenian-church.html
13:52, 27 September, 2013

YEREVAN, SEPTEMBER 27, ARMENPRESS: The Armenian-style Church in
the Syrian city of Rakka, located near the border with Turkey, was
robbed. This was reported to Armenpress by our compatriot living in
Damascus Nazareth Elmajyan, stating that besides Armenians the Arab
Christians as well prayed in that Church.

According to Elmajyan, on September 26 Islamists, connected with
Al-Qaida terrorist organization, removed the cross of the Church
and placed the black flag of their organization in the place of the
cross. The Church suffered material damages.

Armenpress was informed by the Facebook page of the Syrian Armenians,
that the robbed church was the St. Martyrs Armenian Catholic Church,
located 160 kilometers from Aleppo. Besides, at night the Rakka people
tried to restore the cross in its place.

Many historical and cultural monuments have been destroyed. The
Armenian Catholic Prelacy of Damascus has been recently bombed and
the Armenian colleges suffered considerable damages.

By the UN data, during the two-year bloodshed in Syria since March
15 2011 more than 100 thousands of people have fallen victims.

Currently 4,5 million refugees live in Syria and 1,5 million - in the
neighboring countries. Several tens of Armenians have been killed in
the result of the collisions. Notwithstanding that difficult situation,
many Syrian Armenians continue leaving in Syria. The governmental
forces try to liberate Aleppo from the opposition. Every day heated
collisions and bombings are taking place, causing sufferings of the
peaceful population, the Armenians as well

[Yervant1]

JIHADISTS TORCHES STATUES, CROSSES IN SYRIA CHURCHES: NGO

Agence France Presse
September 26, 2013 Thursday 5:24 PM GMT

BEIRUT, Sept 26 2013

Jihadist fighters linked to Al-Qaeda set fire to statues and crosses
inside churches in northern Syria on Thursday and destroyed a cross
on a church clock tower, a watchdog said.

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) fighters entered the
Greek Catholic Church of Our Lady of the Annunciation in the northern
city of Raqa and torched the religious furnishings inside, the Syria
Observatory for Human Rights said.

They did the same at the Armenian Catholic Church of the Martyrs,
and also destroyed a cross atop its clock tower, replacing it with
the ISIL flag, the Observatory said.

Most of Raqa, located on the banks of the Euphrates River and capital
of the province of the same name, fell to anti-regime fighters
in March.

Where the ISIL dominates in the city, it imposes a strict version of
sharia (Islamic law) on the populace.

The London-based Observatory denounced these attacks "against the
freedom of religion, which are an assault on the Syrian revolution."

Not only have there been attacks on Christian places of worship in
Syria, a predominantly Sunni Muslim country wracked by more than two
years of civil war, but also on Shiite Muslim mosques.

Additionally, Christians clerics have been kidnapped, and some brutally
murdered, by jihadists.

In January, the Middle East director of Human Rights Watch, Sarah
Leah Whitson, said: "The destruction of religious sites is furthering
sectarian fears and compounding the tragedies of the country.

"Syria will lose its rich cultural and religious diversity if armed
groups do not respect places of worship."

The New York-based group said that "while some opposition leaders
have pledged to protect all Syrians, in practice the opposition has
failed to properly address the unjustified attacks against minority
places of worship."

At the outset of the rebellion against President Bashar al-Assad,
rebels welcomed the support of jihadist groups, largely made up of
foreign fighters.

But the jihadists, where they have reached a position of dominance
in specific parts of the country, are increasingly alienating the
native population.

On Thursday, an ISIL commander from the United Arab Emirates was killed
in fighting with Kurds in the north of Syria, the Observatory said.

[hagopn]

OK, so Bardak N'Bamena backed off.

 

Johaness? Where are you? Do you have Internet access now? Is the Haleb siege over with? What's happening over there?

[Arpa]

OK, so Bardak N'Bamena backed off.

 

Johaness? Where are you? Do you have Internet access now? Is the Haleb siege over with? What's happening over there?

 

Yes, indeed, Where is our friend from Aleppo. It is worrisome. I read somewhere that all communications, phone, internet etc are off.

Seems like, despite the urging by those cheerleaders like erbokhan, Mr. Obamian has set aside his plans of bombing the crap out of Syria. Yet, that other clown notanyahudi is still beating the drums of war over Iran. Seems like his Salome tambourines are falling on deaf ears as well. If only those saudi and qatari dogs stop barking….

Edited October 3, 2013 by Arpa

[hagopn]

I hope Iran succeeds is draining the Pars field and leaves the pedophiles is Doha dry and gasless.

[Arpa]

I hope Iran succeeds is draining the Pars field and leaves the pedophiles is Doha dry and gasless.

 

Yes indeed. Let those camel jockeys in doha extract sand, not oil and wipe their a*’s with sand-paper, not oil soaked dollar bills. Those kelb ibn kelbs, bin ladens . When did they learn to speak?

Who discovered and dug for oil in those deserts? Not those so called pantless eyrabs.

BTW, even is the Syrians call their country SAR, Syria is not an arabic country.

Its like when Senegalese speak French. Is Senegal a French country?

Edited October 3, 2013 by Arpa

[Arpa]

Is it like Washington being a suburb of London, just because amerikanos espik anglese.

Or is it when the Persians learned to speak in the lingo of the Koran?

Is Yerevan a suburb of Moscow, since many there espik russky?

[hagopn]

Blame it on Nasser, the thief, by all accounts a petty thief and robber. He drained Syria's wealth and chased away most Christians and moderates (i.e. those not interested in the "United Arab Republic") to North and South Americas for the most part. There is a huge population of Syrians throughout South America. Go to Caracas to see half a million "Arabs".

 

Unlike Armenians, however, these people seem very disconnected from their homeland. I don't hear too much noise about this affair from the very wealthy South America Syrians, which is fast becoming a gigantic Marxist experiment with an unconscious population with some communist wolves preaching "egalitee" blah.

[Yervant1]

18:46 04/10/2013 » Society

Saudi black op team behind Damascus chem weapons attack – diplomatic sources

The August chemical weapons attack in the Syrian capital’s suburbs was done by a Saudi Arabian black operations team, Russian diplomatic sources have told a Russian news agency, RT reports.

“Based on data from a number of sources a picture can be pieced together. The criminal provocation in Eastern Ghouta was done by a black op team that the Saudi’s sent through Jordan and which acted with support of the Liwa Al-Islam group,” a source in the diplomatic circles told Interfax.

The attack and its consequences had a huge impact on the Syrian situation, another source said.

“Syrians of various political views, including some opposition fighters, are seeking to inform diplomats and members of international organizations working in Syria what they know about the crime and the forces which inspired it,” he told the agency.

Liwa Al-Islam is an Islamist armed group operating near Damascus headed by the son of a Saudi-based Salafi cleric. The group claimed responsibility for the bombing of a secret governmental meeting in Damascus in July 2012 that killed a number of top Syrian officials, including Defense Minister Dawoud Rajiha, his deputy Asef Shawkat, and Assistant Vice President Hassan Turkmani.

The allegations mirror a number of earlier reports, which pointed to Saudi Arabia as the mastermind behind the sarin gas attack, which almost led to US military action against Syrian government. Proponents of this scenario say intelligence services in Riyadh needed a false flag operation to provoke an American attack in Syria, which would tip the balance in favor of the armed opposition supported by Saudi Arabia.

 

Source: Panorama.am

[Yervant1]

The Washington Post
October 5, 2013 Saturday
Regional Edition


Christians in Syria face growing hostility

by Loveday Morris
IN AJALTOUN, LEBANON


When radical Islamists tore down a cross and hoisted a black flag
above a church in the northern Syrian city of Raqqah last week, their
action underscored the increasingly hostile environment for the
country's Christians.

Although Syria is majority Sunni Muslim, it is one of the most
religiously and ethnically diverse countries in the Middle East, home
to Christians, Druze, and Shiite-offshoot Alawites and Ismailis. But
the country's conflict, now in its third year, is threatening that
tapestry.

While the primary front in the war has pitted Sunni against Shiite,
Christians are increasingly caught in the line of fire. The perception
that they support the government - which is in many cases true - has
long made them a target of rebel groups. Now, Christians say radical
Islamist groups such as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), an
affiliate of al-Qaeda, are determined to drive them from their homes.

"The Christian community in Syria is stuck between two fires," said
Nadim Nassar, a Syrian from Latakia who is director of the Awareness
Foundation, an interfaith charity based in Britain. "One fire is a
corrupt regime, and everybody agrees there needs to be a change. And
on the other hand, there's a fragmented and diverse opposition on the
ground who can't control jihadist forces coming from outside the
country."

Syria is not the only place in the wider region where Christians are
being targeted. Coptic churches in Egypt have been attacked, and
Pakistan last week experienced the deadliest church bombing in the
country's history. The militants who attacked a mall in Nairobi last
month singled out non-Muslims.

The rash of assaults has led some to question the future of
Christianity in Syria, where adherents make up about 10 percent of the
population, and in the wider Middle East.

Syria's ruling Assad family, which belongs to the Alawite sect, has
long painted itself as the protector of Syria's minorities. Though
leaders of Syria's opposition have pledged to provide minorities with
equality in a new Syria, they are unable to control the growing number
of hard-line Islamist forces on the ground.

The Western-backed Syrian Opposition Coalition denounced the
desecration of the churches in Raqqah, calling it an act that showed
"complete disregard to holy sites and religious and cultural
heritage."

But the rejection of the opposition coalition by 13 rebel factions
that announced an Islamic alliance last week highlighted the group's
lack of influence.

In Syria's war, bishops have been kidnapped and priests have been
killed. When the fighting last month reached the ancient town of
Maaloula - where residents still speak Aramaic, the language of Jesus
- it struck at the heart of Syria's Christian community.

Most residents have fled since rebels swept through the picturesque
town, which clings to the mountains northwest of the capital,
Damascus.

"Maaloula is like Jerusalem to Syrian Christians," said Ibrahim
Doushi, a Syrian Christian shop owner who moved to neighboring
Lebanon. "When the war reached there, it was heartbreaking for all the
Christians in the Middle East."

The fighting in Maaloula was followed by the images from Raqqah, where
the ISIS desecrated the Greek Catholic and Armenian Catholic churches,
according to activist groups. The radical Islamist group also has
attacked Shiite shrines and mosques.

For Doushi, who fled to Lebanon last year from the town of Ras al-Ayn,
near the Turkish border, the footage of the ISIS's black flag flying
above the Armenian church was confirmation that he and his family have
no future in his home country.

"Christians are being torn from our roots," he said. The ISIS
militants "are proud of it. They are targeting the Christians and they
are publicizing it. The regime cannot protect us."

Doushi said he was forced to leave Ras al-Ayn after Islamist fighters
entered the town late last year and targeted the homes and businesses
of Christians. The 61-year-old's new, temporary residence, housing
seven members of his extended family, is St. Gabriel's monastery in
the mountain village of Ajaltoun, 12 miles north of Beirut.

Many at the monastery say they are pinning their hopes on obtaining
European visas, citing doubts that there will ever be a day that Syria
can offer security to its minorities, at least in rebel-held areas.

"The Christians are never going back," said Johnny Chamoun, 42, also
from Ras al-Ayn, who works at the monastery coordinating assistance
for Syrian Christian refugees.

Nassar, the interfaith foundation director, said it is the first time
in centuries that Christians in Syria have been targeted for their
faith.

"We are not imported there. Christ was not born under Big Ben or in
Paris," he said. "This is the cradle of Christianity that we are being
pushed from."

[hagopn]

Amazing the half-truths of the media. We Armenians are routinely vicitimized by this sort of nonsense when it concerns the region's history. We are forced to adopt a "statute of geopolitical limitations" when it concerns, for example, the address of historical grievances that go back further to demonstrate Pan-Turkic and Turkic malice in general. But, oh no, we are only allowed to dig as far as 1982 at best for our grievances when it concerns Artsakh.

 

The same nonsensical and amnesiac approach can be felt here:

 

"The perception that they support the government - which is in many cases true - has long made them a target of rebel groups"

 

This journalist's selective amnesia and obviously institutionalized and intentional lack of depth in this matter is evident in the fact that the Christians in Syria were in support of the Alawi government precisely because the Sunni fanatics had been promising the slaughter of Christians since the inception of the Syrian state! The only hope for Christians in the region was a secular Ba'ath based regime, which "Christendom" (not!) decided to blow away in Iraq and create what was - and they very well knew to be - by default an anti-Christian environment.

 

As I have said and I will keep on saying: Christians were a catalyst for progress in the region, for secularization, for modernization, for advancements in technology and the normalization of social norms as it suited the Middle-Eastern populations. The application of these obviously false "democratic standards" and associated rhetoric is only a false flag to cleanse the region of these progressives. It is an old conspiracy (yes! conspiracy) on behalf of "Christendom" (not!) to keep these regions in the middle-ages with insane "Mahdi" dreams promising a "global caliphate" and other nightmares. It started with the Armenians, and they are working tireless toward that goal.

[hagopn]

The mantra in Washington, London, Paris, Tel Aviv and a host of other "western" (not!) capitals is the following:

 

"What? The Iraqis have their own pharma industry, their own motorcycle manufacturing firms? What next? Full blown Petrochemicals? You mean they'll produce all their own materials and will no longer depend on us? What next? Bomb them! Put more idiot bedouins in charge!"

[Arpa]

Hagop, I'm sure you know that the founder of the Ba'ath movement was a Christian Syrian, Michele Aflaq

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Aflaq

[hagopn]

Yes. I did know that. The entire concept of Arab Nationalism is of Christian construct. if it were up to the "Islamists", which it appears to be so with the blessing of the Wahhab of Saud (which, we were being told "did not exist" by many Armenian "intellectuals"), we would have a Caliph back in Istanbul. The Islamist propaganda about "Muhammad's predictions of Turkic leadership of Dar al-Islam" is little known. Obviously, none of the leading factions of geopolitics today want Ba'athist thought to prevail.

[Arpa]

Let me ask this again. Why do Syrians call their country SAR=Syrian Arab Republic?

Syrians are not Arabs, neither are the Lebanese or the Egyptians. Are the Persians Arab even if their language is more than 50% Arabic and they write in the koranic script?

[hagopn]

It's a bit late in the game to repeatedly ask that question after so much arabization had taken place historically. The SAR was the brainchild of Christian Arab speakers, that Nasser hijacked and turned into something not so desirable, who wanted to get rid of colonialism, assert independent and modern statehood, and thwart islamism. I suppose, despite all documentation on this, one can assume that the overt control of commerce and industry in Egypt by mostly foreign, non-Arab (not "native born"), populations might have been the catalyst for Nasser's zealous approach. The easiest benchmark at the time for natives was the Arabic language, the local Arabic dialect, perhaps not necessarily with the intention of Arab fascism. After all, the Armenians were afforded linguistic freedoms that only so-called market forces eventually began encroaching upon and a bit of latent bureacratic pressure to have a standard lingua franca. If I remember correctly, it was only in the 1970s that Arabic was the language of instruction for the "hard subjects" such as science and math in Armenian schools in Syria and Egypt.

Edited October 8, 2013 by hagopn

[Johannes]

I'm ok. Thank you friends.

[hagopn]

Hey there! Is the siege still on?

[hagopn]

A disturbing African viewpoint on Arab Nationalism and Arab Expansionism http://yeyeolade.wordpress.com/2007/07/22/no-more-arab-domination-of-the-black-race/

[Arpa]

I am sure you already know that in the Arabic 'abd/'abed means servant as in names like 'abdallah/'abdullah. The word goes further to 'abeed , meaning ebslaved/slave that is applied to black Africans. Even today many of the palace slaves in Saudia and other Arab countries, the black Africans are considered slaves, or at best castrated eunuchs and harem masters.

Why is the peanut called fstuk 'abeed, African (slave)nut, pistaccio?

Edited October 8, 2013 by Arpa