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Yes shat mets sirov kuzenay imanal te ov ove, yev um papiknere inch deren xaghatsel irents kyanqum.

Shat mets partsanqovem aprum kerelov im papiki anune, vori anunne yeghel Ashot Sanamian Gevorgi.

Im papikes tsenvele 1908 tevakanin, Yerevani nahangi, Nor Bayazit (nerkayums Gavar) qaghaqum, qaghaqayin durmayi deputati entaniqum. Avartelov teghi mijnakarq dprots@, yerku tari zbaghvele usutschutsyamb. 1928 tvakanin @ntunvel yev avartele Stalingradi gegharvesti instituti yeramya kurser@. 1931-its tsarayele Karmir banakum yev mek tari ants iravakargin voch harir mtqer artahaytelu hamar dzerpakalvel e yev datapartvel 3 tarva azatagrkman. Patizhe k@rele Krasnoyarski yerkramasi Eniseyski tchambarum. 1935 tvakanin azatvel e yev antsel ashxatanqi Nor Bayaziti petakan tatronum vorpes bemadrogh nkarich. Yerku taruts hravirvel e Yerevani patani handisatesi tatron vorpes glxavor nkarich. 1938 tvakanin dzerpakalvele yerkrort angam yev datapartvel arten 10 tarva azatazrkman Uzbekakan XSH tchambar anunov Galodnaya Step. 1948-in veradardzele Yerevan yev hastavle merdzaka shrjannerits mekum. Nuyn tvakanin dzerpakalvele yerort angam yev aqsorvel Krasnoyarski yerkramas. Azatvele 1954 tvakanin yev veradardzel Yerevan. Minchev kyanqi verjn ashxatel e Yerevan qaghaqi artaqin dzevavorman hamakargum vorpes nkarich-kendanagir. Mahatsele 1975 tvakanin Sibiryan Yazva hivandutsyunov. Ir kyanqum Ashot Gevorgi Sanamian@ shat mets dere xaghatsel ir enkerneri hamar. Manramasnoren der yes chem havagel bolor paster@ yev patmutyunner@ im papiki masin. Im kyanqi npataknerits mekn ayne vor im papiki masin karoghanam kensagrakan mi girq grel. Nra nkarnerits voroshe pahpanvatsen aysorva oroq Gurgen Maharu tan@ vori ter u tirakalne aysorva oroq Antonina Maharin. Nkarnerits mi hat@ hajoghvele nkarel yev gone nkare vorpes hishatak pahel! Ays nkare nvirvatse Gurgen Maharun Ashot Sanamiani koghmits, nkarum patkervatse Sibirian mi tnak vortegh Gurgen Maharin aprele yev grel vorosh stextsagortsutsyunner ayt tnakum, ays nkar@ nkarvele Ashoti 3rd yev Gurgeni 2rd aqsorman zhamanak.

 

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Shat hetaqrqir mtahaghatsum e Ashot yev aravel yevs hetaqrqir teghekutyunner es zeteghel qo "post"-um. Tsavoq srti yes shat ban ch@gitem im papikneri masin yev hetaqrqir patmutyunner chem karogh anel.

 

Morakan paps tsnvel e Arevmtyan Hayastanum (Malatsia) apa gaxtel Syria ... heto Hayastan. Gitem vor lav nkarich er (photo) yev lav "ballroom dancer" ... Irenits indz mnatsel en ayn bazum lusankarner@ voronq patkerum en im mankutyun@ minchev 3 tarekan. Dranits heto nran chem tesel qani vor teghapoxvel en USA. Menq USA yekanq yerb na arden ch@kar.

 

Horakan paps yeghel e armatnerov Gharabaghtsi (Shushi). Ir mayrn u hayr@ jarderi zhamanak Shushiyit gaxtel en Tashqend (yete chem sxalvum) apa Parskastan. Na mahatsav yerb yes 2rd te 3rd dasaranum ei yev qani vor tarber qaghaqnerum einq aprum shat arit chem unetsel ir het shpvelu. Mayrs asum e vor artakarg zargatsats mard er paps (i hakarak tatus vor@ nuynisk tarajanach cher).

 

Aysqan ban.

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Shat hetaqrqir mtahaghatsum e Ashot yev aravel yevs hetaqrqir teghekutyunner es zeteghel qo "post"-um. Tsavoq srti yes shat ban ch@gitem im papikneri masin yev hetaqrqir patmutyunner chem karogh anel.

Sireli Sulamita jan, yes inqes baxt chem unetsel shepvelu im Papiki het vori anune yes krumem. Teyev anchap hetaqerqevatsem ir patmutyunov, qani vor krumem ir anune indz harkavore imanam ir patmutyune. Im papikes mahatsele tariner im tsenveluts arach, tsavok srti yes nran chem tesel yev hete chem shpvel, bayts mi hetaqerqir ban karoghem patmel im anvan nkatmamb, te inchpesen im anune voroshel vor petqe lini im papikis anune, qani vor yes poqer horyexpayrel unem. Im tsenveluts 12 amis arach im mayrikes yeraze tesnum, ayt zhamanak im papikes arten mahatsatse linum, anqam im mayres chi tesel im papikin. Yerazi mech mayres hor@s het hivandanotstis dursen galis, dzerqneri mechel mi barurov yerexa. Barure paqe yev nranq chen karoghanum tesnen te yerexan tghae te axchik... Aynuhetev im mahatsats papne galis nrants mot yev vertsnume im hor dzerqits ayt yerexain, mek akentartov batsume barure yev asume vor tsnvele tgha... Aynuhetev talov im hayrikin barure asume hetevyal barer@ " mi vaxenal zavakes, chem tani indz het, hama anune petqe Ashot dneq" aytqanov im mayr@s artnanume. Yerazits motavorapes 5-6 amis heto na imanume vor mi qani amsekan heghie, aynuhetev hajort 6 amise voch hetaqerqervumen vor tghaye te axchik, vochel shat hatchaxakien gnumen stugumneri, qanzi mayres arten giter vor aroxch tghaye tsenvelu. 1982 t@vakani Ogostosy 19 in tsnvumem yes!

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Inch aghvor badmutyoun er dvir mez Ashote jan, I loved it! :)

 

Im morenagan meds hayres shad kach yev xelatsi mart er yeghads yev arevelahay. Yerousaghemi Jarankavorats avardads er yev hedo tourkyo esbayits varjarann al avardads. Yev 1915-i charten hedo gazmads e ir fedayinerou xoumpe yev 3 dari Giligyan lernere baderazmads e turkeroun tem. Ir polor endanike nayev esbannevads en yegher 1915-i chartin yev kani vor esba er turkyo panagin mech, loure iren hedo hasads er te charte yeghads e Hayeroun tem yev te ir polor kertasdann al chartevads en yegher. Yekibdos gousagtsagan chef er meds hayriges yev Hayasdani arachin angaxoutyan jamanagva mi kani naxakahnere yev ourish yereveli antser inchbisin eyin Hamo Ohanchanian, zoravar Tro, Sahag Sahagyan yev ourishner im meds hores, aysinken papikis doune ge heravirveyin. Meds hayriges nayev hredor er, azkayin kordsich yev kerogh al er.

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Kalov im horenagan meds hores (papikis) inke 7 dari Ameriga er yegads (out West, Fresno) ir cousin-in hed yev i michi aylots ir mayrige namagov mi kani ankamner ge xentre ou ge taxantse vor im papikes veratarna doun, irenk al arevmedahay en yeghads. Ouremen xeghj papikes meg ou ges dari arach 1915-i charten yed ge veratarna ir more taxantsankov yev ouremn inkn al gesbannevi chartin inchbes nayev ir polor kertasdane, i patsaralyal hayriges vore vorp menatsads er charti jamanag.
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Anahit jan, ketse mer herosnere, yev oghormi bolor hantsavornerin... Yes partsenumem qo papiki nman andznavorutsyunnerits! Ch@ morananq vor, nayev qaghaqain gortsichnernelen shat mets der xaghatsel ayt zhamanak!

Shat hetaqerqir patmutyuner, shnorhakalem mez het kiselu qo papikneri patmutsyunner@!!!

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Morakan pap@s bnik Yerevanci e...Harutyun Nikoghosyan...Dashnaki vordi e...Papikis hor anun@ Soghomon e eghel...Dashnakicner@ anvanel en "Nikoyi Solo" Cnvel e Yerevanum, aprel Abovyan poghoci hetev sepakan tnerum...Mi angam gnacel em ayd bak@ indz hishecrec "Arajin Siro yerg@" filmi bak@...Gnacel e paterazm erb eghel e 18 tarekan...Veradardzel e erkrord kargi hashmandam...(Hayr@s shat e harc u pordz arel Nikoyi Soloyi masin, bayc pap@s xosel e kcktur ev miayn shshukov, sastik vaxecel e @nker Stalinic)...Yes iren chem hishum, hamarya 3 tarekan em eghel erb mahacel e...Bayc tarorinak e...Hishum em te inchpes em iren "Harut papik" asel...

 

Horakan pap@s...Hunastanic gaghtel e Yerevan...40 akannerin...Shat mec djhvarutyunnerov @ntaniq e kazmel, tun- tegh...Angam dprocakan krtutyun chuner, bayc paylun Matematika giter...Aysinqn tvabanutyun...Im kyanqum shat mec der e katarel...Dzerq@s brnac ptuytner, sovorecrel e inchpes poghoc ancnem, inchpes barevem, dimacinis matnacuyc chanem, paghpaghak, eres tal...:)

Heto krkin gaght ...Hima el AMN...

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Morakan pap@s bnik Yerevanci e...Harutyun Nikoghosyan...Dashnaki vordi e...Papikis hor anun@ Soghomon e eghel...Dashnakicner@ anvanel en "Nikoyi Solo" Cnvel e Yerevanum, aprel Abovyan poghoci hetev sepakan tnerum...Mi angam gnacel em ayd bak@ indz hishecrec "Arajin Siro yerg@" filmi bak@...Gnacel e paterazm erb eghel e 18 tarekan...Veradardzel e erkrord kargi hashmandam...(Hayr@s shat e harc u pordz arel Nikoyi Soloyi masin, bayc pap@s xosel e kcktur ev miayn shshukov, sastik vaxecel e @nker Stalinic)...Yes iren chem hishum, hamarya 3 tarekan em eghel erb mahacel e...Bayc tarorinak e...Hishum em te inchpes em iren "Harut papik" asel...

 

Horakan pap@s...Hunastanic gaghtel e Yerevan...40 akannerin...Shat mec djhvarutyunnerov @ntaniq e kazmel, tun- tegh...Angam dprocakan krtutyun chuner, bayc paylun Matematika giter...Aysinqn tvabanutyun...Im kyanqum shat mec der e katarel...Dzerq@s brnac ptuytner, sovorecrel e inchpes poghoc ancnem, inchpes barevem, dimacinis matnacuyc chanem, paghpaghak, eres tal...:)

Heto krkin gaght ...Hima el AMN...

Ani jan, im imanalov 40 akan tvakannerin yerp vor martiq gaxtumein Hayastan artasahmanits, nranq dzerpakalvumein, yerpemn aqsorvum... nman patmutyun karoghe patahele qo horakan papiki het, te teghekutsyun chunes?

Incheve, anchap shnorhakalem qo patmutsyan masin, shat hetaqerqirer imanal!

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amenarreghtsvatsayin (hetaprpir) depq@ vor kapvats e horakan papus yev tatus het, terevs trans mahn e... papus mahits 3-4 or ants tsnvel e nrants arrajnek torran arrajnek zavak@ (nrants arrajin tsorr@)... 2 tari ants, tatus mahits 3-4 or ants tsnvel e nrants arrajnek torran 2rd zavak@ (nrants 2rd tsorr@)...
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amenarreghtsvatsayin (hetaprpir) depq@ vor kapvats e horakan papus yev tatus het, terevs trans mahn e... papus mahits 3-4 or ants tsnvel e nrants arrajnek torran arrajnek zavak@ (nrants arrajin tsorr@)... 2 tari ants, tatus mahits 3-4 or ants tsnvel e nrants arrajnek torran 2rd zavak@ (nrants 2rd tsorr@)...

"Reaincarnation" "Veratsenund" Hetaqerqir depqa!!!

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"Reaincarnation" "Veratsenund" Hetaqerqir depqa!!!

 

morratsa nshem, vor tat@s verjin ropenerin, mahvan ankoghnum, kanchum er, inchvor Arpi/Arpine mekin... ayd zhamanak shat ushadrutyun chdardzretsin, chnayats vor hetaqrqir er te ov e Arpin, vorovhetev ayd anunov motik barekam chuneinq... heto veragretsinq, vor syriayum, herr-u-herravor mi tarets barekam kin ka, yerevi nran e hishel...

mahvanits miqani or heto, yerb tsnvets nra 2rd tsorr@, [hay] buzhquryr@ tsnoghnerin hartsrel e, te inch en dnelu ays hreshtaki anun@... tsnoghner@ batsatrel en, vor qani amis e krrvum en, bayts derr chen voroshel... buzhqury@ arajarkel e Arpine dnel... "ham shat lav anun e, ham el aghjkas anunn e..."

aydpes el aghjka anun@ Arpi dretsin...

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morratsa nshem, vor tat@s verjin ropenerin, mahvan ankoghnum, kanchum er, inchvor Arpi/Arpine mekin... ayd zhamanak shat ushadrutyun chdardzretsin, chnayats vor hetaqrqir er te ov e Arpin, vorovhetev ayd anunov motik barekam chuneinq... heto veragretsinq, vor syriayum, herr-u-herravor mi tarets barekam kin ka, yerevi nran e hishel...

mahvanits miqani or heto, yerb tsnvets nra 2rd tsorr@, [hay] buzhquryr@ tsnoghnerin hartsrel e, te inch en dnelu ays hreshtaki anun@... tsnoghner@ batsatrel en, vor qani amis e krrvum en, bayts derr chen voroshel... buzhqury@ arajarkel e Arpine dnel... "ham shat lav anun e, ham el aghjkas anunn e..."

aydpes el aghjka anun@ Arpi dretsin...

Kyanqne akntart mi yeraze bart!!!

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im papu-tater@ bolorn el yeghel en banvor dasakargi mardin, yev arrandznahakut vochmi gortsneutyun chen tsavalel... bayts hetaqrir en nrants kyanqi vorosh drvagner... ay, asenq, morakan papus yev tatus arrajin handipumn u hetaga amusnutyun@...

 

pap@s @nkeroj het gyughits gnum e, ayn zhamanak, leninakan gortsaranum aghjik tesnelu, vor@ @nkeroj batsatrutyamb papus nman "boyov-busov" aghjik e... minch @nker@ bartsranum e aghjkan nerqev kanchelu, pap@s nkatum e @ndmijman durs yekan mi xumb aghjikneri, hatkapes nrants miji pstlik-mstlik chaxkal achkerov aghjkan... mi qani rope ants @nker@ veradarrnum e, te "mi 2 varkyanits kijni"... paps el, te "gna asa togh chga... yes en aghjka het piti xosam..."

@nker@ varanum e, te "ay tgha du dra het inch gorts unes... eni qo kes boyin e..." eskogh-enkogh... pap@s te che u che... yes ira het piti xosam...

u etents el motikanum a pap@s u ira "boyov-busov", sirun tesqov, qaghaqi "pstlik" aghjkan kapum a...

de iharke tat@s skzbits chemuchum a num... xeghj mardun tanum berum a qani angam... bayts de, inqn el giti te inch a anum... isk pap@s shat a siraharvats linum u ira murazin hasnum a...

 

hetagayum, yerb torrnerov hardz-u-pordz einq anum tatus (hogu het einq xaghum), te "ay tat, du papun vonts kapetsir..." asum er, "et boyi, et tesaki sirun mard@ ira votov ekav im mot, u yes dzerrkitss bats toghnei? ho xelarr chei?"

 

incheve... inchpes kasi her@s ays depqerum, "mard@ @ntrel e charyats poqraguyunin..."

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Anahit jan, ketse mer herosnere, yev oghormi bolor hantsavornerin... Yes partsenumem qo papiki nman andznavorutsyunnerits! Ch@ morananq vor, nayev qaghaqain gortsichnernelen shat mets der xaghatsel ayt zhamanak!

Shat hetaqerqir patmutyuner, shnorhakalem mez het kiselu qo papikneri patmutsyunner@!!!

:)

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im papu-tater@ bolorn el yeghel en banvor dasakargi mardin, yev arrandznahakut vochmi gortsneutyun chen tsavalel... bayts hetaqrir en nrants kyanqi vorosh drvagner...

Har jan, banvor dasakargnel ir derne xaghatsel mer patmutsyan mech, te nranqel chelinein mer kusaktsutsyun@ vari k@g@nar!!! Ba et gortsarannere ho datark chein lini, zhoghovurdi apagai hamar shat mets dera xaghatsel da!!! Nents vor nranqelen mez hamar herosner yeghel irents dererum!

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Har jan, banvor dasakargnel ir derne xaghatsel mer patmutsyan mech, te nranqel chelinein mer kusaktsutsyun@ vari k@g@nar!!! Ba et gortsarannere ho datark chein lini, zhoghovurdi apagai hamar shat mets dera xaghatsel da!!! Nents vor nranqelen mez hamar herosner yeghel irents dererum!

 

"mez gerezanaporner el en petq..."

 

-chem hishum vor amerikyan filmits...

 

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I am 100% AXPARI jut! :) Both of my paternal grandparents were born and raised in Greece and came to Yerevan in the late 40's. My maternal grandfather was born in a small fisherman’s village in Greece as well.

 

My maternal grandmother is half Italian, half Armenian. Her parent’s brief love story resembles a Hollywood movie...her mother was living in Europe during WW2 and was sent to a German POW camp to translate and care for the Italian captured POWs. She fell in love with one of her “patients” and they had a very intense love affair, complete with a makeshift wedding ceremony and a pregnancy to follow. By the time my great-grandmother was halfway through her pregnancy, her husband was well enough to be stationed again, but now he was forced to fight for the Germans..against his own people. A few months later, my great-grandma was sent a letter stating that her husband was “missing in action/ presumed dead”. Anyway, long story short, my grandmother never met her father, she was born in Milan and moved with her mother to Yerevan at age 2. Later, we found out that her father was in fact alive and living near outskirts of Milan, however, neither my grandma nor her mother were interested in finding him and he in turn had not taken steps to find them...

 

None of my grandparents had a high school education. But all of them spoke or speak at least four languages (Armenian, Greek, Turkish and Russian). They have worked hard all of their lives and used their hands and strength to create a home and future for their families. Many of my deep routed values and virtues come from my maternal grandmother. When I look around, I see that my generation is lacking the virtues and values that our grandparents' generation lived by. It saddens me...

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I am 100% AXPARI jut! :) Both of my paternal grandparents were born and raised in Greece and came to Yerevan in the late 40's. My maternal grandfather was born in a small fisherman’s village in Greece as well.

 

My maternal grandmother is half Italian, half Armenian. Her parent’s brief love story resembles a Hollywood movie...her mother was living in Europe during WW2 and was sent to a German POW camp to translate and care for the Italian captured POWs. She fell in love with one of her “patients” and they had a very intense love affair, complete with a makeshift wedding ceremony and a pregnancy to follow. By the time my great-grandmother was halfway through her pregnancy, her husband was well enough to be stationed again, but now he was forced to fight for the Germans..against his own people. A few months later, my great-grandma was sent a letter stating that her husband was “missing in action/ presumed dead”. Anyway, long story short, my grandmother never met her father, she was born in Milan and moved with her mother to Yerevan at age 2. Later, we found out that her father was in fact alive and living near outskirts of Milan, however, neither my grandma nor her mother were interested in finding him and he in turn had not taken steps to find them...

 

None of my grandparents had a high school education. But all of them spoke or speak at least four languages (Armenian, Greek, Turkish and Russian). They have worked hard all of their lives and used their hands and strength to create a home and future for their families. Many of my deep routed values and virtues come from my maternal grandmother. When I look around, I see that my generation is lacking the virtues and values that our grandparents' generation lived by. It saddens me...

Em jan, I am 100% sure that if they have passed away (oghormi irants) and/or if they are still alive (astvats pahi pahpani) they are and would be very proud of you! I personally see alot more in you then you may imagine!

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