MosJan Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Sip not everyone drives a car tats over $250~300 a months - if a family has one H2 then rest is driving on a old car or something affordable one good car per family bro kids i know drive honda & toyota - An Accord can cast as low as $219 / don't get me started bro i drive a MBZ R350 and i'm paying much less then your paying for your jeep and yes it's an 4x4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) First it became uncool to be driving a German car (i.e., BM, Mercedez, Audi), next it was a titizakan* thing to tint the windows of your vehicle. Now, you cannot have specialized plates since it means your are trying to be cool and think you’re somebody important. Why must everything be scrutinized and labeled as wrong just because a group of young kids do it? Why is it so taboo for a jahel to strive and work hard to drive a nice car and fix it up to look nice? In Glendale, if you are a Hayastanci and have a nice car it must mean you are either defrauding the gov’t or you are selling drugs. The fact that these young kids are the work force of the city and generated income for it is irrelevant. If they want to spend 50% of monthly income on leasing a H2, who is Officer Balian to question that? When did the authority of “police power” extend to personal rights and liberties? Ani jan, you know that I grew up here. I have no idea about what the specialized license plates signified in Armenia, but I know over here it is an expression of individuality. Sure it draws attention, but I don’t believe it contributes to the recklessness of youth. He could have been driving a ‘94 Accord with generic plates. There is an otar dentist in Glendale driving a yellow Porsche Carrera who has plates that read CYAAAAA. He is in late 50's and a Republican. (He told me). Obviously he is showing off and trying to have fun with car. I see no issue with it. *titiz= show off Em, i know for a fact that our argument can go on and on about titiz tint and fancy license plates ...You think that it's an expression of ones individuality and i think that there are more and better ways of expression... By the way did you ever see anyone speeding and showing off a '94 Accord?..I didn't...And as mentioned above, (Sip thanks for the Math) a hard working kid can not afford all that... P.S. Sip you forgot to add..when they get a ticket for the window tint, they pay to take it off, show them and then on again... Edited July 24, 2007 by Ani777 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) Sip not everyone drives a car tats over $250~300 a months - if a family has one H2 then rest is driving on a old car or something affordable Sure no problem ... my comment was regarding the kids that drive late model beamers and merc's and super luxury SUV's as their own private car (not borrowed from daddy). Heck my own cousin got a brand new bmw M3 as highschool graduation present!!!! That is not an ordinary car .. that is a super car. He is a very good kid from a good family and I am very happy that he got it ... but there is no way in hell he could have afforded anything like that on his own (he still can't after like 10 years) My first car that I got myself was my 92 blazer ... I saved for almost a year working a full summer and I was able to make the downpayment on it! I think at the time I bought it, it was something like $12K (I was 2nd year in college). Then the next few years I sank like another 5-6K into it and another 4-5K just fixing things that broke but that's another story At least I learned REALLY well how to fix everything on that truck which has paid for itself maybe 1000x times since then. By the way, I am not saying this is an "Armenian" thing ... but I can't see myself handing the keys to such a vehicle to my kid (if I ever have one) before he or she has been able to earn it on his or her own. They are getting a 1982 burgandy station wagon as their first car ... just like I did Edited July 24, 2007 by Sip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) P.S. Sip you forgot to add..when they get a ticket for the window tint, they pay to take it off, show them and then on again... I never understood that whole tinting thing ... and what's with driving with fog lights on in LA? Is the weather really that bad? A friend of mine got a fog light ticket in Glendale and he was so pissed at the cop ... I got a good kick out of it. But the funniest is my dad ... he got a ticket for not having turned his wheel toward the curb while parked on a downhill in Glendale ... I couldn't stop laughing when he told me. Edited July 24, 2007 by Sip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakachik77 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 In Shahan's defense, he is a fairly equal opportunity hater. There is not much he is happy about it seems. can you imagine if you were born of Jewish parents in Armenia, grew up there and immigrated here after 1990s :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 28 years in LA and almost never had a traffic ticket only one, and cop told me its a gift from me to your newborn son ( I was rushing to a Hospital) he said I just want to make sure he has father when growing up. and, Lots of those BMW's Benz's have salvaged titles, they buy them at there relatives who are in a body shop business, not 50k or even 30k. So nobody is paying this kind of money for clean car, they are not that rich. if you are interested? just go to north Hollywood and stop in any body shop, "harts chka ape" + they would trow in a tsitsak koshikner along with it also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 can you imagine if you were born of Jewish parents in Armenia, grew up there and immigrated here after 1990s :D ... and watched CNN in LA and invested in the stock market. Shahan, if you read this, I am kidding bud. But it might help if you started listing what makes you happy during the day (we already know you are fond of San Francisco, Canada, and maybe Orange Country -- so at least that's a start) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 28 years in LA and almost never had a traffic ticket only one, and cop told me its a gift from me to your newborn son ( I was rushing to a Hospital) he said I just want to make sure he has father when growing up. He gave you a ticket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Sure no problem ... my comment was regarding the kids that drive late model beamers and merc's and super luxury SUV's as their own private car (not borrowed from daddy). Heck my own cousin got a brand new bmw M3 as highschool graduation present!!!! That is not an ordinary car .. that is a super car. He is a very good kid from a good family and I am very happy that he got it ... but there is no way in hell he could have afforded anything like that on his own (he still can't after like 10 years) My first car that I got myself was my 92 blazer ... I saved for almost a year working a full summer and I was able to make the downpayment on it! I think at the time I bought it, it was something like $12K (I was 2nd year in college). Then the next few years I sank like another 5-6K into it and another 4-5K just fixing things that broke but that's another story At least I learned REALLY well how to fix everything on that truck which has paid for itself maybe 1000x times since then. By the way, I am not saying this is an "Armenian" thing ... but I can't see myself handing the keys to such a vehicle to my kid (if I ever have one) before he or she has been able to earn it on his or her own. They are getting a 1982 burgandy station wagon as their first car ... just like I did sip i have been shopping for a good price on a cruise - 4 to 6 days - and refuse to go till mid September since the price is wayyyyy up ~ close to 450 per person - buy yesterday have spend over $600 on set of toys for Haroutik - it's haw it is bro - you will save in one place and spend even more on your kids - kids are kids and need to have what we can afford - yo know what i do for living - the customers i have go to extends to support their kids - many kids don;t eve know what a parent has to do to pay for that A4 or A6 or Z3 or Z5 I dislike Pasadena time to time but kids in this town are not like in Big G but over all kids are kids bro - their will always be a showing of cars / clothing / watches / Ipods / Iphones did you get one ?? ehh heriq xosenq gnam Haroutiki Transformer@ havaqem / te che spanelu a arden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 I have to admit that one of the best things about Armenians in general is how they take care of their kids ... so I hear you Mosjan jan ... but there is probably a line somewhere ... top of the line super car for highschool graduation, for me, is a bit passed that line. But $600 for Harutik sounds like Xmas in July!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Sip guess what he wonts for his Bday ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Shahan, everyone got a right to make mistake...and is also obligated to correct it. Do the right thing and apologize. By doing so, you'll get more respect. I'm sure deep down even you are conviced that Glendale is one of the most safest and one of themost cleanest city in the whole country. How many other cities do you know where women and children can go out 2-3-4-5 in the morning...? In a city where over 100,000 armenians live, we take pride for our achievements. Asadz kuyr lavatesutyunic bxats xosqer chen. Xndirner shat kan, bayc paker@ etqan el vat@ chi vor du es nerkayacnum. Yete nerogutyun ches aselu, gone ari hamadzynvenq vor es xosakcutyan@ el chenq anradarna. Hamadzayn es? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted July 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 yesterday have spend over $600 on set of toys for Haroutik Wow, wish I was your kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted July 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 But the funniest is my dad ... he got a ticket for not having turned his wheel toward the curb while parked on a downhill in Glendale ... I couldn't stop laughing when he told me. Hmm... didn't know you could get a ticket for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Hmm... didn't know you could get a ticket for that. Yah apprently in Glendale you can Mos .. let me guess .. he already has transformers so that's not it. Wii and PS3 are already out dated ... iPhone probably not very useful in his case. Hmmmm ... I'm going to guess maybe a battery operated jeep he can drive around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahan Araradian Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) To which post should I respond? but Shahan in fact is a racist against his own race…. It's likely you won't understand or will misinterpret what I'm trying to say: The Հայաստանցի (Armenian from Armenia) in its current form today should never have existed... It was never meant to happen that way. It was because of one fatal Achilles heal of the first republic of Armenia, of the ARF: giving equal opportunity to the communist Armenians in the government of the first Republic. The fate of the behavioral pattern of today's Հայաստանցի was the result of this flaw... Having studied the birth of Armenia in 1918 in detail -- and having read the memoirs of the volunteer leaders -- the outcome is a complete and unimaginable tragedy (like waking up to a bad dream and finding it is the reality). Only a revolution of the same intensity as 1918 can recover, and I think it is barely possible. There is a reason the Հայաստանցի is a completely different creature than the diasporan Armenian. (And I'm not talking about the ones who immigrated to Armenia during the ներգաղթ and who have kept their nationalist traditions.) The reason is 70 years of communist rule in Armenia devoid of any national organization; while 70 years of nationalist leadership in the Diaspora -- from Iran to Lebanon to the U.S. -- the very same leadership that founded the Armenian republic. P.S. the ARF was founded by Russian Armenians in Tiflis, so I can't possibly be racist against Eastern Armenians nor Russian Armenians -- at least of the time. Edited July 24, 2007 by Shahan Araradian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahan Araradian Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) ... and watched CNN in LA and invested in the stock market. Luckily I figured out what CNN and the stock market are BEFORE I gave any money to them which means I never did... That's a lie. I did, but I made a couple hundred before pulling out, never to do it again (Note: except investing in pre-IPO stocks, of course, which I HIGHLY recommend if you are able to). Shahan, if you read this, I am kidding bud. But it might help if you started listing what makes you happy during the day (we already know you are fond of San Francisco, Canada, and maybe Orange Country -- so at least that's a start) Ազատութիւն, բնութիւն, հայութիւն, ընկերութիւն, եւ իգութիւն Edited July 24, 2007 by Shahan Araradian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Ive heard that Ara Grigoryan was killed in jail by inmates, is this true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted August 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Mos, that's horrible. I hope it's not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 (edited) Ive heard that Ara Grigoryan was killed in jail by inmates, is this true? It won’t surprise me. Most of the inmates, who are there simply for having smoked a joint or turned right at red light are usually macho men who hate thieves, rapists, wife beaters, pedophiles and… cowardly hit and runners. What do these guys think? That they can come to Glendale, get behind that killing machine, also known as Mercedes, break all the laws, and when in trouble, run back to the village of "Haykashen" in Yerevan Province? I was trying to walk accross a street in Yerevan. I may have stepped into the driving lane. This driver stopped and took the time to scream at me for having encroched on his lane. Do they know the law of "the pedestrian always has the right of lane"? Do they know that in America, no matter a pedestrian is crossing the street, no matter how WRONG they may be, will always have the RIGHT of way, and that all traffic will stop to see the pedestrian walk across? Of course. These courtesy rules and regulations were set by people who have been driving Ford Model T's, Edsels and Chevlolet's. Not by those who may have just discovered those new toys like BMW's and Mercedes's. Do the cars in Yerevan have working and functioning brake pedals? Edited August 10, 2007 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 http://wcbstv.com/kcbs/topstories/local_story_199154226.html Damn the guy is an idiot for not taking my advice... didn't i clearly say "call serozh dzyadzya in armenia and get a new passport"????? idiot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 I was trying to walk accross a street in Yerevan. I may have stepped into the driving lane. This driver stopped and took the time to scream at me for having encroched on his lane. Do they know the law of "the pedestrian always has the right of lane"? well the way my friend describes the traffic in Yerevan , I won't be surprised that this kind of situation happened to you, I don't think in Yerevan the pedestrian always has the right of lane. When I was living there, I don't remember that you had the right of lane, the cars won't stop to let you cross the street, I had to wait...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 It won't surprise me. Most of the inmates, who are there simply for having smoked a joint or turned right at red light are usually macho men who hate thieves, rapists, wife beaters, pedophiles and… cowardly hit and runners. What do these guys think? That they can come to Glendale, get behind that killing machine, also known as Mercedes, break all the laws, and when in trouble, run back to the village of "Haykashen" in Yerevan Province? I was trying to walk accross a street in Yerevan. I may have stepped into the driving lane. This driver stopped and took the time to scream at me for having encroched on his lane. Do they know the law of "the pedestrian always has the right of lane"? Do they know that in America, no matter a pedestrian is crossing the street, no matter how WRONG they may be, will always have the RIGHT of way, and that all traffic will stop to see the pedestrian walk across? Of course. These courtesy rules and regulations were set by people who have been driving Ford Model T's, Edsels and Chevlolet's. Not by those who may have just discovered those new toys like BMW's and Mercedes's. Arpa jan that was you ??? man you was not walking - you was more like strolling in middle of pic dark night ok ok sorry next time get yourself a bodyguard who will also help you walk across the street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVO Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Arpa jan when you leave the US, you loose some of you're rights, including the pedestrian right of the way. I'm not talking about Republic of Armenia, there are many other countries, where you would get run over if you step into the traffic lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 I was in Yerevan during April, wile strolling on Mashtots Ave one morning, (pushkin and Mashtots) the traffic light turned red and I was in a middle of the street, BOOOM BAAAM so I stooped, BOOM BAAAM, i dident move, a cop came right then and asked me if i was Ok, i said "ayo. I "survived".........long story short....how many people do you know who got killed in Yerevan by this "horrible driving"? wile at it also tell me how many people died in Georgia, azarbaijan, Russia, Holland, england, US....etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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