Nakhidjevan Ethnic Cleanings History

[neko]

 

All I want is peace in the region and both Armenians and Azeris respect each other and they would not call each other enemies...

 

But almost nobody here is from the region. For that reason, they can talk all the bullshit they like.

 

[neko]

A nation called "Azeri" has never existed throughout human history. The garbage that, with the help of Ottomans and Judeo-Bolshevik devils, counterfeited the fraudulently fabricated bogus state of fake "Azerbaijan" north of the Arax River on Armenian territory in 1918, were called the Tatars of the Caucasus after the region fell under Russian rule. Before that the nomadic, cattle-herder barbarians distinguished their tribes by the color of their sheep or hats.

 

Crawled out from under your Iranian rock again? Crawl back, please.

 

[Zartonk]

But almost nobody here is from the region.

 

I don't follow there.

[hosank]

Crawled out from under your Iranian rock again? Crawl back, please.

 

likewise you could crawl back into your mongol rock...

[GevorgP]

You call him/them pet!

You only keep them around for pets. This place doesn't get pet turks too often.

Because the answer is not logical?

 

If someone thinks that 2 times 3 makes 4; he is a pet? Or when someone answering to a post;

quotes just one word/sentence out of the whole text and "answers" only to that, because he/she has no answers to the rest of the post, and/or doesn't want to discuss it in order not to accept the true; that contradicts his/her interests.

 

Yet there is good way of doing it; you just express your opinion on the same subject of discussion and let people judge it.

This is not good thing to do. Some people are labeling others as idiots, to pose themselves as clever/magnificent.

 

In addition you say: "This place doesn't get pet turks too often"; does this mean that often; it is the case?

 

Don't you think that it is a pet-ty privilege?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 18, 2007 by GevorgP

[neko]

I don't follow there.

I meant that nobody who posts here lives in either Azerbaijan or Nagorno Karabagh.

[hosank]

you don't know that...

 

well obviously, not azerbaijan..

but how do you know they don't have internet in artsakH?

how do you know that some of us have not lived there?

or visited it at least? , such as i...

at least we know what the land in question is, unlike you, bolistsi

[Armenak]

but how do you know they don't have internet in artsakH?

They do. I've surfed the web in Shushi.

[Zartonk]

I meant that nobody who posts here lives in either Azerbaijan or Nagorno Karabagh.

 

Well yes. Posters, probably not, members, it's possible.

Edited April 24, 2007 by Zartonk

[MosJan]

Ara manukyan is from Artsax

[hosank]

yah,

though i havn't personally surfed the web there, i have seen people do it

[GevorgP]

I wander why Armenian Government doesn’t speak up about Nakhidjevan ethnic cleanings at UN, given the Aeries tried to include in UN agenda such a minor and false “story”; like Khodjali?

[DominO123]

I wander why Armenian Government doesn’t speak up about Nakhidjevan ethnic cleanings at UN, given the Aeries tried to include in UN agenda such a minor and false “story”; like Khodjali?

 

The Azeri didn't have such a good treatment in Zankezur neither, the more pressing issue is Azerbaijan's (a backward country) butchering of Armenian mouments in Nakhichevan which demonstrate without the slightest doubt that all the farts and poops comming from Alievs mouth(Anus) about granting Armenians in Artsakh any security is less credible than the word sounding noises from a pig anus while excreting its sh!t.

 

Turkey and Turks are angels compared to the backward country Azerbaijan is, had Ani been in Azerbaijan, don't expect any buildings even remaining there, and all the remaining pieces uncovered would be called Aghvanian (AKA Albanian). We should have some gratitude from the Turks to not be what Azerbaijani's are. The heat generated by their hate against Armenians would probably heat their house in winter and make them less dependent from their own oil. I don't pitty Armenia to have such a neighboor as Turkey, I pitty it to have such a neighboor as Azerbaijan.

Edited August 28, 2007 by Domino

[Yervant1]

UN ADOPTED ARMENIAN INITIATIVE

 

Lragir, Armenia

Oct 1 2007

 

In its sixth session on September 28 the UN Human Rights Council

adopted the Resolution on the Protection of cultural heritage as an

important component of the promotion and protection of cultural rights,

coauthored and proposed by Armenia, the foreign ministry reported.

 

This interregional resolution was coauthored by the members and

observers of the Human rights Council Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia,

Russia, Nicaragua, Sri Lanka, Angola, Kazakhstan, Ethiopia, Belarus

and other countries. It urges to honor and preserve cultural heritage

as a component of the cultural identity of peoples and individuals,

tolerance, respect, dialogue and collaboration between peoples and

civilizations.

 

The resolution defines the destruction of cultural heritage as a

violation of cultural rights, and underlines the responsibility of

nations for intentional destruction and failure to prevent, stop and

prosecute. During the same session Armenia presented materials on

the destruction of the Armenian medieval cemetery of Djolfa and the

Armenian cultural heritage in Nakhidjevan in general.

 

[hosank]

hmmmm

[Hellektor]

Turkey and Turks are angels compared to the backward country Azerbaijan is, had Ani been in Azerbaijan, don't expect any buildings even remaining there, and all the remaining pieces uncovered would be called Aghvanian (AKA Albanian). We should have some gratitude from the Turks to not be what Azerbaijani's are. The heat generated by their hate against Armenians would probably heat their house in winter and make them less dependent from their own oil. I don't pitty Armenia to have such a neighboor as Turkey, I pitty it to have such a neighboor as Azerbaijan.

Oh dear, oh dear,

 

Domino?? Is it you? Are you serious or sarcastic?

 

Turks are "Azeris" are Turks! Same shit different odor.

 

The artificially counterfeited fictitious state of fake “Azerbaijan” was fraudulently concocted on Armenian territory in 1918 to forge an extension for the Ottoman Tyranny in the Caucasus and put Armenia between rock and a stinking fart place. It was Nouri Pasha the half sibling of Enver, the head of the Turkish army that had invaded the Caucasus who called the newborn nonentity “Azerbaijan”, stealing the name of the region in northwest of Iran for absurd future claims from that country; all in the interests of pan-Turkism.

 

How many thousands of ancient Armenian churches, monasteries, monuments, khachkars and cemeteries were destroyed after the end of WWII, out of fear of territorial claims coming from the USSR, perpetrated by that doenme Jew Ismet Inonu? Aren't you aware of the harm they did to Ani in the last four or five years under the guise of restoration? Don't they call Ani An@ and attribute it to Seljuks, Georgians, Tatars and Mongols and don't even mention the words Armenia or Armenian on any of the badly written info boards? Were you really fooled by the ugly show they put up for propaganda in the case of Akhtamar's Sourb Khach church? No cross, no returning of the monument to Armenians, no function as church, those huge despicable Cacaturk muzzle and Turdish flag desecration and all the publicity they got from the Eurofags on their fours and taking in Turkish Delight from every pore of their putrid cadavers...

 

The only difference is, we are not in say, 1920s, a few years after the peak of the Armenian Genocide, but in 2007 a few years after the "Azeri" perpetrated genocide and war. The sore losers just can't take it that their hairless, chickenshit asses were kicked by the Armenians. They thought they could beat us because they had forgotten Turkey had already recruited and executed the able-bodied Armenian men before they drove the women, children and elderly to roast in the desert. The "Azeri" filth thought they could do the same to the people of Artsakh but they were terribly wrong.

 

Never believe there's an iota of difference between the two variants of this species of Human Culture-deficiency viruses.

 

A beautiful Persian proverb goes:

 

سگ زرد برادر شغال است

 

Literally it means the yellow dog is jackal's brother. (Hell! This time I put the proverb at the end of the post).

 

[GevorgP]

Nakhidjevan Ethnic cleanings and Armenian Genocide will be recognized by USA because:

In current geopolitical situation, when US invasion in Iraq and subsequent astronomic military spendings couldn't be covered by occupied oil resources, the five year period resulted in absolute economic collapse for the world's superpower.

 

Now it is apparent that US strategic interests in the Middle East are crying for a "Cheaper" solution under current deadlock in Iraq; that is creating there two reliable puppet states; Kurdish and Suni, at no cost to USA, insuring that most of Iraqi oil resources are under their control and pulling out troops to stop unlimited military spending and, at the same time, obtain more reliable US allies, as opposed to Turkey.

 

Then using the exempt resources prevent economy from absolute collapse by insuring it's smooth downfall, which is most important thing currently.

 

But alas, US interests don't match with Bush ones, he now is planning to carry out most deadly and binding for US, long term program; locating super-expensive radars in Turkey.

 

This hits two targets at the same time; binding next US president (I guess Barak Obama will be next one) to cooperate with Turkey which, given current political situation, is against US interests and at the same time guarantees (wouldn't leave any other option to future American presidents) US support to Turkey for a long time after Bush "presidency". And Bush, I guess later on, will visit Turkey frequently to "listen/get" Turkish praises/prizes.

 

Note please that EU, despite of prior promises, given to Turkey, after reassessing current situation, is refusing Turkish HUG. They recognize, by learning Armenia or Kosovo historical experience, how deadly and disgusting it could be.

 

The EU members, especially Germany with 3 million Turkish population, have bitter recognition of the fact that Turks are "Masters" in assimilating/absorbing other nations, even out of Turkey, where they are minority there, FOR A WHILE, their "culture", religion and great know how in the population reproduction area, is a super-arm; able to absorb, in no time, such weak, in the "area", European states.

 

And then "the MINORITY" will enforce to accept their type of democracy, moderated by Mullahs/Generals.

 

Now Bush ends up his "term" with faded image of American distinguished wealth and power in the world. And, if not prevented, he can attach Turkey to the American tow cable to drag them, regardless of US weakness or tiredness; waiting for China to replace the Superpower.

 

Regards,

 

GevorgP

Edited March 14, 2008 by GevorgP

[hyethga]

Oh dear, oh dear,

 

Domino?? Is it you? Are you serious or sarcastic?

 

Turks are "Azeris" are Turks! Same shit different odor.

 

The artificially counterfeited fictitious state of fake “Azerbaijan” was fraudulently concocted on Armenian territory in 1918 to forge an extension for the Ottoman Tyranny in the Caucasus and put Armenia between rock and a stinking fart place. It was Nouri Pasha the half sibling of Enver, the head of the Turkish army that had invaded the Caucasus who called the newborn nonentity “Azerbaijan”, stealing the name of the region in northwest of Iran for absurd future claims from that country; all in the interests of pan-Turkism.

 

How many thousands of ancient Armenian churches, monasteries, monuments, khachkars and cemeteries were destroyed after the end of WWII, out of fear of territorial claims coming from the USSR, perpetrated by that doenme Jew Ismet Inonu? Aren't you aware of the harm they did to Ani in the last four or five years under the guise of restoration? Don't they call Ani An@ and attribute it to Seljuks, Georgians, Tatars and Mongols and don't even mention the words Armenia or Armenian on any of the badly written info boards? Were you really fooled by the ugly show they put up for propaganda in the case of Akhtamar's Sourb Khach church? No cross, no returning of the monument to Armenians, no function as church, those huge despicable Cacaturk muzzle and Turdish flag desecration and all the publicity they got from the Eurofags on their fours and taking in Turkish Delight from every pore of their putrid cadavers...

 

The only difference is, we are not in say, 1920s, a few years after the peak of the Armenian Genocide, but in 2007 a few years after the "Azeri" perpetrated genocide and war. The sore losers just can't take it that their hairless, chickenshit asses were kicked by the Armenians. They thought they could beat us because they had forgotten Turkey had already recruited and executed the able-bodied Armenian men before they drove the women, children and elderly to roast in the desert. The "Azeri" filth thought they could do the same to the people of Artsakh but they were terribly wrong.

 

Never believe there's an iota of difference between the two variants of this species of Human Culture-deficiency viruses.

 

A beautiful Persian proverb goes:

 

سگ زرد برادر شغال است

 

Literally it means the yellow dog is jackal's brother. (Hell! This time I put the proverb at the end of the post).

 

Tchisht a asum Dominon. The Azeris, despite their ethnic ties and cultural similarities to Turks, act far more like rabid dogs than Turks when it comes to history.

 

Kich a mnum vor bats toghnes vor irank gnan yev tan irants glxner@ patin

Edited March 20, 2008 by hyethga

[GevorgP]

Turkey badly needs to establish diplomatic relations with Armenia and ask USA to suspend accepting Armenian genocide bill with an argument that then they are going to establish a joint Turkey - Armenia Commission (this is Bush's way to help Turkey) to discuss whether or not the Genocide happened and that the Genocide issue is the business of the two countries; its not USA business; thus preventing Obama to accept the bill.

Please take this point into account before establishing diplomatic relations with Turkey.

 

Several years ago Turkey, perhaps, through establishing diplomatic relations with Armenia, could slow down the AG recognition process. At that point they had the best "know-how" and "new" technologies in the population reproduction and lying (in Turkish - diplomacy) "Industries".

 

They thought Turkey can prevent Genocide recognition process even without easing down, a little bit, the pressure exerted on RoA. The hatred against Armenians prevented them to set the "diplomatic trap" for RoA; which could assist them to declare that the Genocide issue is a Turkey – Armenia bilateral problem and only the two countries should discuss and "settle" it during coming "centuries". Thus enabling US president Bush to prevent the AG recognition by USA.

 

Now the best times for the Turkish "diplomacy"(lie) are over. Whole world is obsessed with Turkish lies (as opposed to the Zurderer - quoted above). Turkish politicians/diplomats, recently, in numerous occasions are trying to prevent different country leaders/politicians accepting AG, by lying that it didn't happen, nevertheless their efforts are constantly producing the opposite result.

 

The times when their solders (murders) decapitated millions of disarmed Armenians and churches are over, you know, now we are united and armed. We showed the Turks, in Artsakh, that our ancient nation, with victorious past, fights back enemies every time, when our forces are not divided.

 

Now Armenia doesn't need to establish diplomatic relations with Turkey; nowadays it is almost absolutely isolated politically, and Turks awkwardly are looking for a way to sneak out. Meanwhile Armenia ensured steady economic growth, regardless of Turkey's and TurkeyBaijan's(Azerbaijan) blockade; the worst times for us are over.

 

This is probably the first time; Turkey suffers a prominent crackdown in "diplomacy" (lying) and therefore needs to change its planned tactics. The only thing that can save their territorial "integrity", for a while, is; asking RoA to establish diplomatic (lying less) relations, without the precondition, that RoA will not claim for Western Armenia and, some other territories; de facto included in Turkey.

 

This way you can keep Turkey's territorial "integrity", for a while, otherwise; all the countries that accepted AG will immediately redraw Turkey's map to make the next legal move; de jure returning Armenian territories to Armenians. Thus justice is prevailing, because now it would be favorable for the whole world too, given current geopolitical situation.

 

So when Turks will politely ask for opening borders with Armenia, w/o preconditions (listed above), there is possibility that RoA may agree with it.

 

GevorgP

Edited July 3, 2008 by GevorgP

[GevorgP]

Turkey badly needs to establish diplomatic relations with Armenia and ask USA to suspend accepting Armenian genocide bill with an argument that then they are going to establish a joint Turkey - Armenia Commission (this is Bush's way to help Turkey) to discuss whether or not the Genocide happened and that the Genocide issue is the business of the two countries; its not USA business; thus preventing Obama to accept the bill.

 

We shouldn't agree to establish diplomatic relations with Turks before April 24, 2009 it badly needs to be postponed. Otherwise it will assist Turkey to prevent Genocide recognition by the US pariliament.

 

Please don't forget it!

 

GevorgP

[GevorgP]

Turkey badly needs to establish diplomatic relations with Armenia and ask USA to suspend accepting Armenian genocide bill with an argument that then they are going to establish a joint Turkey - Armenia Commission (this is Bush's way to help Turkey) to discuss whether or not the Genocide happened and that the Genocide issue is the business of the two countries; its not USA business; thus preventing Obama to accept the bill.

 

Please take this point into account before establishing diplomatic relations with Turkey.

 

Several years ago Turkey, perhaps, through establishing diplomatic relations with Armenia, could slow down the AG recognition process. At that point they had the best "know-how" and "new" technologies in the population reproduction and lying (in Turkish - diplomacy) "Industries".

 

They thought Turkey can prevent Genocide recognition process even without easing down, a little bit, the pressure exerted on RoA. The hatred against Armenians prevented them to set the "diplomatic trap" for RoA; which could assist them to declare that the Genocide issue is a Turkey – Armenia bilateral problem and only the two countries should discuss and "settle" it during coming "centuries". Thus enabling US president Bush to prevent the AG recognition by USA.

 

Now the best times for the Turkish "diplomacy"(lie) are over. Whole world is obsessed with Turkish lies (as opposed to the Zurderer - quoted above). Turkish politicians/diplomats, recently, in numerous occasions are trying to prevent different country leaders/politicians accepting AG, by lying that it didn't happen, nevertheless their efforts are constantly producing the opposite result.

 

The times when their solders (murders) decapitated millions of disarmed Armenians and churches are over, you know, now we are united and armed. We showed the Turks, in Artsakh, that our ancient nation, with victorious past, fights back enemies every time, when our forces are not divided.

 

Now Armenia doesn't need to establish diplomatic relations with Turkey; nowadays it is almost absolutely isolated politically, and Turks awkwardly are looking for a way to sneak out. Meanwhile Armenia ensured steady economic growth, regardless of Turkey's and TurkeyBaijan's(Azerbaijan) blockade; the worst times for us are over.

 

This is probably the first time; Turkey suffers a prominent crackdown in "diplomacy" (lying) and therefore needs to change its planned tactics. The only thing that can save their territorial "integrity", for a while, is; asking RoA to establish diplomatic (lying less) relations, without the precondition, that RoA will not claim for Western Armenia and, some other territories; de facto included in Turkey.

 

This way you can keep Turkey's territorial "integrity", for a while, otherwise; all the countries that accepted AG will immediately redraw Turkey's map to make the next legal move; de jure returning Armenian territories to Armenians. Thus justice is prevailing, because now it would be favorable for the whole world too, given current geopolitical situation.

 

So when Turks will politely ask for opening borders with Armenia, w/o preconditions (listed above), there is possibility that RoA may agree with it.

 

GevorgP

 

Alas the things, we worried about in 2008, become reality.

Edited December 4, 2009 by GevorgP