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And yes one day Armenia will have a border with Greece when we each take back our rightful lands by working together.

 

 

Long gone are the days of the Spartans and Alexander the Great. If we wait for "todays" Greeks, then nothing will get done. Look at Cyprus. There are more GReeks living outside of Greece then inside of Greece. If they really wanted to put the pressure on Turkey they could, but they don't have the national pride as US!! We will get back our Lands on our own and if any country wants their revenge against the Turks they can join us, but stay out of our way!

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why do you always say judeo-SAXON?...saxons are germanic not semetic.

and look, i understand you hate the jews, but you attribute to them much more then they can actually do.

Since as far as I know I am using this term, I guess you are talking to me. Be a little more intelligent and

the damn post you refer to.

 

I'm not sure you are an Armenian or a certain user in this forum who posts under different nicks.

 

Let's clear up some wrong conceptions right from the start:

I don't hate the Jews AT ALL. I'm angry at those Jews who are stabbing us all the time, hiding behind certain "humanitarian" organizations. As far as I'm concerned, they can sign as many contracts as they like to with Turkey and "Azerbaijan". However, they should back off in matters that are none of their business.

 

I am deeply troubled by the ideas of the likes of you, who for reasons of frustration seek refuge in groups of losers who are despised throughout the world.

I do not believe in race based hatred.

I do not believe Armenians have the remotest racial connection with Nordic peoples.

I do not believe Europeans have anything to do with Aryans. The Aryan myth is a 20th century invention. The word Aryan means Iranian and nothing else.

I do not believe there's a white race. The people who call themselves white, are in fact pink and the word "white" which implies purity and innocence has intentionally been used misleadingly throughout recent history.

I do not believe by hanging from the b*lls of the Germanic peoples, the Armenians will gain anything positive to advance their cause, in fact people like you are giving the Turks the pretext of presenting the Armenians as bad Nazis who deserved to be exterminated anyway.

 

I have lived for many years in Europe and I have tasted their stinking racist attitudes. Armenians, Arabs, Turks are the same shit for them with the exception that once they find out you are a Turk you may even have more privileges than the others.

 

In the end I'd like to wish that someday you'll go and live in a Nordic country and on a nice freezing winter evening, when you are returning home from a hard days work as a toilet cleaner or a garbage collector, a group of skinheads will come across your way in a narrow street and the moment you try to open your mouth and hail the Führer, the first kicks in your belly will stifle your breath. Then bending from the pain, as you are trying to utter, "hey guys I'm one of you! We Armenians are Europeans, I'm a Nazi!" another kick under your chin will break your teeth and the suffocated words that come out of your bleeding mouth will sound something like "Be Abmeniand ab Eubopeand, I'm a Mappi!"...

 

The kicks and punches will continue for some time and you'll feel numb. Then if you are lucky enough to survive the great European experience, you'll wake up in the hospital and hopefully you'll come to your senses.

 

Instead of embarking on the campaign of a non-existing white cause like a servile Untermensch, defending those who have stabbed us all along and even had a role in the Armenian Genocide you mind your own business or just be silent.

 

P.S. The Anglo-Saxon and the Zionist worlds have merged so thoroughly that it's not possible to tell them apart. Hence: Judeo-Saxon.

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interesting how you called me a nazi so many times in that post,...yet...if anyone here shows the most racially based thoughts it is not i but you...

 

yes im armenian, and i only post under this nick

 

i don't hate jews or Europeans or who ever you keep accusing me of. i don't believe in a mystical superior race and i am not giving any pretext as to whatever you are trying to say.

 

i don't try to pretend to support a socialist-immigration oriented europe at all. i think you missunderstood a number of things my friend.

 

see, it is not only jews who hide under humanitarian organisations in order to backstab armenia. everyone does

no matter how semetic they are,...so in singling out jews as a perpetrator, you are showing yourself as an even greater racist then i.

 

see, i don't dream of exterminating other races in order to create some sort of pan-Nordic race and so on and so forth. im a nationalist not a nazi. and im as pissed off at Europeans as you are.

i do not believe that armenia should become some sort of vassal state to a great german nation or what ever you are accusing me of. how could i? im armenian not german and i hate external rule as it is a breach of sovereignty

 

so why

 

and sure you lived in europe and you find them racist against you;..no say you lived in armenia, and thousands of iranian, syrians azeris and turks began to immigrate there...how would you feel? would you not rather protect your culture? obviously to an outsider it would seem racist,..but then again, all things seem racist these days

 

now...here is a point where you missunderstood me...the part where i spoke about stormfront right?...i guess i didn't write that part all too well, but it was intended to be a sarcastic response. he called armenians fascists and stormfront skins so i responded.. i did not intend to make it look like armenians are nazis..infact, if you read the rest properly..i explained that armenians are in no way fascists or racists....

 

sorry if i didn't make it clear..point being...( once again).i do not believe in superior races and racial extermination and so on..i was simply using a satyrica tone. infact, if i remember correctly, you are the one who spoke of exterminating turks and so on....

 

now..there is an aryan race, obviously it isn't what hitler thinks, scientists now use the term 'indo europeans' instead of aryan for fear of political reprisal since the early 20th century. indo-europeans include most european peoples (celts, germanic-nordic, slavs, hellenics and so on), armenians, georgians, persians, afgans tajiks and indians..not all of them being white. so don't say that it does not exist, it does, but it isn't a race of superhumans like the nazis thought.

 

lastly, if i work in northern europe as you say, i would not be attacked by skinheads...why? because i have light skin and blond hair (lol)...so it's not like ill be mistaken for an arab. anyways, i don't like skins...

so why don't you be silent

 

lastly anglo-saxons have nothing to do with jews....and that in itself is a show of racial based hatred which you seem to be so strongly against

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Armenian values:

 

Never attack sleeping enemy.

 

One of the biggest contributions of Armenians in the humankind culture; is the lesson that every Armenian childe is learning from "Sasuntsy Davit" legend.

 

At fighting with "Msra Melik" and his army; before attacking the enemy; he gets him awake and on alert!

 

Quote from the legend:

 

Who's sleeping, wake up!

Who is awake, stand up!

On the alert; on the alert!

Davit attacks, on the alert!

 

The legend is teaching Armenians the rules (alphabet), of confronting enemies (Geneva Convention ... is just another wording of the rules, developed later on). This is one of the Armenian values taught to young generation throughout centuries.

 

Historically we learn in family settings and/or kindergarten the rules listed above.

 

Nevertheless Turkeybijan, "citizens", are proponents of different "values; according them: the killer of the sleeping Armenian, Margaryan, is a national "hero". Perhaps they don't like to deal with Armenians on alert; given the Artsakh War lessons learned.

 

Fortunately Europe and the rest of civilized world, doesn't share their barbarian "values".

 

I would like to know the opinion of the Azeries and Turks browsing in this Forum, on the issue above.

 

Do you consider the coward; hero?

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Get Real! The Turks are there to stay.

 

Why does a Romanian come here and stir the pot?

 

Yes, you are right. When turks occupied Crimea, and when they crossed the Danube and Nile rivers they were there to stay. Then it is useles to try to confront them. Hence the modern European attitude towards them. Just like Chamberlain and Daladier before WWII tried to "please" Germany nowadays everybody tries to "please" turkey. I suggest the Armenians bow before the "greatness" of the turks and learn the turkish language because resistance is futile. Armenians, Greeks, Bulgarians, Romanians etc will be all eradicated. I am , of course, sarcastic. And I am not trying to "stir the pot". I am just saying that there are others that will come into conflict with turks and their allies. That's all. And I am quite interested about the preservation of Christian monuments and curches in the Middle East and Caucasian area. Seems that most of them are all but extinct. You would do well to learn that long gone are the times when turks were enslaving Armenians and thus, you were all living toghter. What are you? Some kind of pro-turkish Armenian propagandist? Are you trying to infuse Armenians with pessimism? You are showing again that the biggest threat is not the person on the other side of the barricade, but the mentality on our side. You exhibit the same reasoning I saw once on a Jewish Armenian that was saying something along the lines "we should all try to get along with turks and see things their way, because that is the future". Probably he was reffering to the fact that the turks are some of the biggest allies of the state of Israel. I bear no resentment towards Israelians in general, but please tell me, are you , perhaps, of Jewish descent?

 

 

But tell me dear Serjik, why are the Eurofags so fucqing impotent?

What are they afraid of? Why don't they just TELL the Turks to open the ports on Cyprus.

 

I am asking myself the same question every day. What are they afraid of?

 

@Hosank

Hello to you to. I agree with what you are saying, altough I do not think Turkey has any chances of joining the European Union anytime soon. There are still some persons who seem to care about the traditional values and cultural heritage of Europe. Too bad they limit themselves to the "traditional" borders of Europe. Until these persons are taken out of the equation, turkey will not join the EU.

 

We will get back our Lands on our own and if any country wants their revenge against the Turks they can join us, but stay out of our way!

 

I dont' think Romanian and Armenian interests will ever collide.

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Armenian values:

 

Never attack sleeping enemy.

 

One of the biggest contributions of Armenians in the humankind culture; is the lesson that every Armenian childe is learning from "Sasuntsy Davit" legend.

 

At fighting with "Msra Melik" and his army; before attacking the enemy; he gets him awake and on alert!

 

Quote from the legend:

 

Who's sleeping, wake up!

Who is awake, stand up!

On the alert; on the alert!

Davit attacks, on the alert!

 

The legend is teaching Armenians the rules (alphabet), of confronting enemies (Geneva Convention ... is just another wording of the rules, developed later on). This is one of the Armenian values taught to young generation throughout centuries.

 

Historically we learn in family settings and/or kindergarten the rules listed above.

 

Nevertheless Turkeybijan, "citizens", are proponents of different "values; according them: the killer of the sleeping Armenian, Margaryan, is a national "hero". Perhaps they don't like to deal with Armenians on alert; given the Artsakh War lessons learned.

 

Fortunately Europe and the rest of civilized world, doesn't share their barbarian "values".

 

I would like to know the opinion of the Azeries and Turks browsing in this Forum, on the issue above.

 

Do you consider the coward; hero?

 

 

Firstly, This question only show your stupidy. I dont think, It deserve any reply.

 

 

I should add, Davit was not more intelligent than you. Ambust tactics are used by every nations, and because of davit stupid ask, be sure more armenians died at that war.

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Armenian spiritual contributions

 

Never attack sleeping enemy.

One of the biggest contributions of Armenians in the humankind culture; is the lesson that every Armenian childe is learning from "Sasuntsy Davit" legend.

 

At fighting with "Msra Melik" and his army; before attacking the enemy; he gets him awake and on alert!

 

Quote from the legend:

 

Who's sleeping, wake up!

Who is awake, stand up!

On the alert; on the alert!

Davit attacks, on the alert!

 

The legend is teaching Armenians the rules (alphabet), of confronting enemies (Geneva Convention ... is just another wording of the rules, developed later on). This is one of the Armenian values taught to young generation throughout centuries.

 

Historically we learn in family settings and/or kindergarten the rules listed above.

 

Nevertheless Turkeybijan, "citizens", are proponents of different "values; according them: the killer of the sleeping Armenian, Margaryan, is a national "hero". Perhaps they don't like to deal with Armenians on alert; given the Artsakh War lessons learned.

Fortunately Europe and the rest of civilized world, doesn't share their barbarian "values".

 

I would like to know the opinion of the Azeries and Turks browsing in this Forum, on the issue above.

 

Do you consider the coward; hero?

 

 

Firstly, This question only show your stupidy. I dont think, It deserve any reply.

 

I should add, Davit was not more intelligent than you. Ambust tactics are used by every nations, and because of davit stupid ask, be sure more armenians died at that war.

 

So Zurderer considers him "Hero"!

 

My pets read your answer and they strongly disagree with you. They are ready to discuss the issue with you, I wouldn't.

 

They think that killer of a sleeping Armenian – Margaryan by a Turkeybijan "s-older", in the Hungarian hotel; not in the battle field, is a disgusting act for all animals, and you know that the same verdict was issued by the Hungarian-European court.

 

If the "hero" of the Aeries was insulted by Margaryan, as "it" claimed; at NATO military workshop. And if "it" was a real solder (not coward), the revenge should be followed immediately.

Thus the European word coward in your language means "her o".

 

What does the word; Honor mean in your language?

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Dear GevorgP, I am writing this post from the computer of a Serbian friend of mine. He has the following message for you: "Don't argue with a turk because neither of you will get something in the process. You are just wasting your time. A turk is just a turk. You can argue with him for a long time. That won't change anything".

 

Seeing as this zurderer is nothing but the "forum's idiot" you would do well to avoid wasting your time with him.

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Dear GevorgP, I am writing this post from the computer of a Serbian friend of mine. He has the following message for you: "Don't argue with a turk because neither of you will get something in the process. You are just wasting your time. A turk is just a turk. You can argue with him for a long time. That won't change anything".

 

Seeing as this zurderer is nothing but the "forum's idiot" you would do well to avoid wasting your time with him.

 

 

welcome LSergiu. enjoy our forum and have fun

 

I would ask descent members of this forum to ignore the idiots and do not encourage them to post more.

I agree with your Slavic friend once an idiot is always an idiot, in this things case (zrter) this thing is an beyond idiocy

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Thank you Edward. These are the exact words of my Serbian friend that I have translated according to his own directions.

 

Нема сврхе расправљати се са турчином зато што нико од вас неће постићи ништа. Тиме само губиш своје време. Турчин је само турчин,шта ту да се каже. Можеш да се расправљаш са њим а ништа постићи тиме.

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welcome LSergiu. enjoy our forum and have fun

 

I would ask descent members of this forum to ignore the idiots and do not encourage them to post more.

I agree with your Slavic friend once an idiot is always an idiot, in this things case (zrter) this thing is an beyond idiocy

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Нема сврхе расправљати се са турчином зато што нико од вас неће постићи ништа. Тиме само губиш своје време. Турчин је само турчин,шта ту да се каже. Можеш да се расправљаш са њим а ништа постићи тиме.

 

I guess I have to make this quote my signature line. I too often forget that it is useless.

 

Tell your Serbian friend

 

Jively! :)

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debating with a turk is not useless

 

trying to convince him that his is wrong is useless.

 

see, if you look at the bottom of the forum page it says x many members, and x many guests. GUESTS, chances are the guests are probably curious odars who typed armenian genocide, or, karabakh or so on in a search engine.

 

our goal is to educate the general public, not the turks, see, as long as the turk is able to make you doubt, he wins, so every time he puts a post, and we do not counterargue properly and intelligently, we lose, he wins.

 

we must teach the general public so that the next time guestX shows up he learns the truth, beyond reasonable doubt, and then, he might talk about it in schools or in other forums, or to his friends or with turkish contacts. it will influence his voting decisions. he would probably vote for a party that supports accepting it and so on. that is how you create powerful allies. and that is why it is our duty as armenian patriots to always be there to repell a turk's attack, would it be in the field, we will answer with our ak-47s, and on the internet, with our minds, our intelligence, our civility, our cunning our logic and our keyboards

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debating with a turk is not useless

 

trying to convince him that his is wrong is useless.

 

see, if you look at the bottom of the forum page it says x many members, and x many guests. GUESTS, chances are the guests are probably curious odars who typed armenian genocide, or, karabakh or so on in a search engine.

 

our goal is to educate the general public, not the turks, see, as long as the turk is able to make you doubt, he wins, so every time he puts a post, and we do not counterargue properly and intelligently, we lose, he wins.

 

we must teach the general public so that the next time guestX shows up he learns the truth, beyond reasonable doubt, and then, he might talk about it in schools or in other forums, or to his friends or with turkish contacts. it will influence his voting decisions. he would probably vote for a party that supports accepting it and so on. that is how you create powerful allies. and that is why it is our duty as armenian patriots to always be there to repell a turk's attack, would it be in the field, we will answer with our ak-47s, and on the internet, with our minds, our intelligence, our civility, our cunning our logic and our keyboards

Yes you do have a good point Hosank; but sometimes it's not easy for very few individuals to constantly argue with his idiotic logics and or big time denialist talks. He agrees the Genocide yet he doesn't think that turkey should go forward and accept it.

 

I don't know about some of the people in here; but after a while it started to be nerve wrecking. He purposely says everything and anything to upset us. He is a damn idiot and I think some others too on the Forum should initiate and take part too. Only a handful few of us tend to get tired after a while. Others on the Forum should pitch in and put him in his place too.

 

Remember, united we stand, divided we fall.

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So Zurderer considers him "Hero"!

 

 

You are still asking this question?Hmm should be related with your racist education. dont ask stupid questions.

 

Do armenian see a murderer as hero? what do you think we are? A turk? :P

 

My pets read your answer and they strongly disagree with you. They are ready to discuss the issue with you, I wouldn't.

 

Lets hope, your pets are more intelligent than you. They learn not to ask stupid racist unnecessary question. Do you think we turks dont know what is ethic?

 

They think that killer of a sleeping Armenian – Margaryan by a Turkeybijan "s-older", in the Hungarian hotel; not in the battle field, is a disgusting act for all animals, and you know that the same verdict was issued by the Hungarian-European court.

 

so why do you think, we will call him hero, idiot? Because we are satans? It is sad that you are now aware of your racism.

 

What does the word; Honor mean in your language?

 

so you know, we have this word to, honor.So dont ask stupid question. I didnot replied your question, I just said dont be stupid and you though I am enough bad to call that murderer as hero. ;)

 

 

you are refering to surprise tactics

 

what we are refering to is treatury. for example, when japan attacked pearl harbour without declaring war, was it simply a brilliant surprise tactic? or was it twisted treatury?

 

This attack happened at peace time. enough answer? or should I explain this more?

 

Dear GevorgP, I am writing this post from the computer of a Serbian friend of mine. He has the following message for you: "Don't argue with a turk because neither of you will get something in the process. You are just wasting your time. A turk is just a turk. You can argue with him for a long time. That won't change anything".

 

Seeing as this zurderer is nothing but the "forum's idiot" you would do well to avoid wasting your time with him.

 

Lol, a romanian fasist have a serb cetnik friend, I am shocked. Ask that friend, If he support what cetniks do bosniaks. No need to ask, I know answer.

 

wow...

 

before, turks were hiding behind their weapons whil facing armenians...as technology advanced...they now hide behind their computers

 

you turks will never change will you?

 

err? I did not swear(Except calling some racist as racist and idiot.I should add they called as much worse words.) anyone. So I am not aware of this hiding. hmm are you talking about another one who swear at internet? It is armenian forum, and It looks like swearing is free.(Not my guilt)

 

see, if you look at the bottom of the forum page it says x many members, and x many guests. GUESTS, chances are the guests are probably curious odars who typed armenian genocide, or, karabakh or so on in a search engine.

 

Great so they can see, who are racists.

 

Good point Hosank, but I'm afraid that foreingers (those who show some interest) are well aware of what has been said, or what is going to be said in these debates.

 

Most probaby, they are aware of armenian mentality.( A turk is a turk, they are evil.)

 

He purposely says everything and anything to upset us.

 

Sorry, You are right, after all armenians dont say anything bad about turks. ;) So I am guilty. :huh:

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Listen here turk. This is the last post in which I will take notice of your presence. From this point on I will reffer to your presence as a "null presence" (unavailable, unassigned, unknown, or inapplicable)

 

First. I am quit fed up with turks like you who employ words without knowing their meaning. Every anti-turk person is considered a fascist. There is no nation on this goddam world that is more fascist than your "nation". If you want to know how a fascist behaves, take a look at your fellow citizens. Evidence is all around you. I will cease to "discuss" with you such things because you lack the ability to comprehend them and that is like talking to a wall. May all the walls excuse me from comparing them with an idiotic turk. You have proven yourself to be one.

 

Second. I am fed up with turks like you who defend the ever unarmed bosnians/turks from all over the world. If there is ever an incident involving turks/tatars/bosnians they are always, and I mean always, unarmed. Have you even been to Bosnia to see what your "unarmed" bosnians did to the Serbian population? The bosnians started the almost endless wave of violence against the serbian population, but when they realise that by playing with fire you might actually burn, we begin to hear tales abut "poor unarmed little bosnians". If you seed war you will reap war. You turk/tatar/bosnians seem unable to understand that.

 

What, for God's sake are they (we) supposed to do in the face of savage warmonger barbarians who want to bash your skull to the nearest wall just because you are different? Should they (we) turn the other cheek? They(we) have run out of cheeks. Even if we are Christians, that doesn't mean we should let other nations with less moral values slaughter us and do nothing about it. How can we practice our faith in the face of endless violence? And when we defend ourselves, we are the aggressors! This is a twisted world in which we live in.

 

The same happened in tatarland, East of Armenia. The tatars brutally slaughtered Armenians who were gathering in peacefull demonstrations all over tatarland. But when Armenians show those tatars that they aren't some sheeps who wait patiently to be slaughtered we all hear tales about the "unarmed poor little tatars" (see Karabakh). I am fed up this kind of pro-turkish propaganda. If you seed war you will reap war Turks have been planting the seeds of war from over a millenia so they will have a rich "harvest". Admit your mistakes and take responsability for them! This is the least you can do, but you seem incapable of doing it.

 

Third. My Serbian friend is from Vojvodina. That's where most of the Serbian population (that has had conflicts with turkish allies in the past) was relocated. Unlike you,h e is very documented about the attrocities commited against the Serbian population before the war began. He is not a cetnik and you don't even know what beeing a "cetnik" means in the first place. Because bosnians were busy butchering Serbians in the past, they shouldn't be surprised when they are "awarded" for their bloodlust.

 

One last thing.Why do you think the word "turk" is an insult? Because this reflects their past barbaric behaviour. We have a million reasons for hating your barbaric civilisation. And you still continue to give us further reasons. This is very important. So don't be surprised when you are insulted because we have strong arguments to back up our every word. Something you aren't able to do. This explains the fabrication of history which keeps every turk occupied these days. You need arguments to, but when they don't exist you "buy" them.

 

@neko

But haven't you yourself just encouraged one (LSergiu)? wink.gif

 

Actually, he was reffering to you. Your past posts qualify you as one.

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err? I did not swear(Except calling some racist as racist and idiot.I should add they called as much worse words.) anyone. So I am not aware of this hiding. hmm are you talking about another one who swear at internet? It is armenian forum, and It looks like swearing is free.(Not my guilt)

 

errr? are you retarded? where in my post did i talk about racism?

your putting words in my mouth...

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