Armenian Actress Converts To Islam

[Dave]

Armenian actress Mahaya Petrossian converts to Islam

 

Tehran, Oct 23, IRNA

 

The well-known Armenian actress of Iranian origin converted to Islam and Shiite sect last week.

 

According to the Sunday issue of the Persian morning daily of Tosse'e quoting Khurshid website, she converted to Islam following her marriage to a Muslim young man.

 

Speaking to Khurshid reporter, she confirmed the report and said that she had been in doubt for a long time whether to remain a Christian or convert to Islam.

 

"However, what happened in my personal life, namely my marriage to a Muslim man, put an end to my doubt and I eventually became a Muslim," added the actress.

 

It is not yet clear whether Petrossian would change the name by which she is known.

Edited October 23, 2005 by Dave

[Takoush]

She's another anhavad Armenian. I guess she never did and never will be enjoying Christ our Lord's existence and the good will in her existence, life? In short, she's another Vahan Mamigonian.

[vava]

If she converted for love (of her husband) - then I wish her happiness. It doesn't make her less Armenian.

[armjan]

if her husband loved her enough, he shouldn't/wouldn't have made her to convert into islam.

 

this is sad, those allo jelos in the middle of no good arabia got her.

[Sip]

Great. She just became half of what she used to be (by law).

 

I hope she QUICKLY consumates her marriage and stops being a virgin because in case she dies before that, she might end up having to service some terrorists up in heaven

[phantom22]

She could have immersed herself in Sufism but remained a Christian. This is very sad, because she will lose her identity. A large part of the Anatolian Turks are nothing more than Islamized Armenians.

 

Do Christians have a chance in the Middle East and Iran region? Perhaps it is time for the Europeans to give the Muslims equal treatment, namely to make it uncomfortable for them to exist in Europe. What we have now is a double standard. Islamists make life almost impossible for Christians, while Erdogan goes around saying that Europe is a Chrisitan club, prejudiced against Moslems. Turkey is a Moslem Club. It annihilated the majority of its Christian population and makes the life of the few remnants impossible. When are they going to let Christian institutions keep their properties and fix their roofs?

 

I am immersed in Buddhism but still consider myself a Christian, although since I am a Protestant some Armenians may consider me an apostate.

Edited October 23, 2005 by phantom22

[Takoush]

She could have immersed herself in Sufism but remained a Christian. This is very sad, because she will lose her identity. A large part of the Anatolian Turks are nothing more than Islamized Armenians.

 

Do Christians have a chance in the Middle East and Iran region? Perhaps it is time for the Europeans to give the Muslims equal treatment, namely to make it uncomfortable for them to exist in Europe. What we have now is a double standard. Islamists make life almost impossible for Christians, while Erdogan goes around saying that Europe is a Chrisitan club, prejudiced against Moslems. Turkey is a Moslem Club. It annihilated the majority of its Christian population and makes the life of the few remnants impossible. When are they going to let Christian institutions keep their properties and fix their roofs?

 

I am immersed in Buddhism but still consider myself a Christian, although since I am a Protestant some Armenians may consider me an apostate.

Phantom:

 

Of course you are a Christian. Any Armenian that would consider you apostate they should look into the mirror themselves first. I know many Armenians that do go to Church and supposedly pray; and I am talking about Armenian Apostolics; and they don't really go to Church to pray, but look into each other's clothes, criticize each other and the likes. At least you are admitting that you're Protestant because you are; but I am sure you are a true Christian and probably better than some Protestants that I came across to at times. Who cares if you're an Apostolic, a Protestant or even a Catholic. To me being a true Christian is more important than all else.

 

Incidentally, I like your healthy views about what you said here re. Christians vs. Islams about Europeans and the Turks. Good points indeed.

Edited October 23, 2005 by Anahid Takouhi

[phantom22]

Anahid,

 

The views you have expressed you make you a junior Pamuk. We SHOULD expect Turkey to believe in an open society, while working toward a free Armenia. If Mahaya Petrossian was living in Armenia her chances of marrying a Moslem would be lessened, yet she should still have that right if she so desired. The Armenian Church should not be a state religion. Other established religions should be able to practice there.

 

Yes, I know that the Catholics have institutions established in northwestern Armenia and that Kurds and Yezidis practice thier religions freely there. But tearing down a historic building housing a scientific institution in Yerevan to build a state-sponsored Yerevan residence for the Catholicos is mixing church and state.

 

Thanks for your open-minded approach. Armenians have been at the forefront of progressive movements in history only to be extinguished by the authorities be they Byzantine, Armenian nobles or Moslems.

 

I do have some problems however with allowing the rabid evangelicals a free hand, because in my view they are not following the teachings of Jesus. Perhaps they show be honest that they are a political and not a religious movement. The bottom line is...how would Jesus act today? Do you think that these Evangelicals are acting anything like Christ would?

Edited October 23, 2005 by phantom22

[Takoush]

Anahid,

 

The views you have expressed you make you a junior Pamuk. We SHOULD expect Turkey to believe in an open society, while working toward a free Armenia. If Mahaya Petrossian was living in Armenia her chances of marrying a Moslem would be lessened, yet she should still have that right if she so desired. The Armenian Church should not be a state religion. Other establshed religions should be able to practice there.

 

Thanks for your open-minded approach. Armenians have been at the forfront of progressive movements in history only to be extinguished by the authorities be they Byzantine, Armenian nobles or Moslems.

 

I do have some problems however with allowing the rabid evangelicals a free hand, because in my view they are not following the teachings of Jesus. Perhaps they show be honest that they are a political and not a religious movement. The bottom line is...how would Jesus act today? Do you think that these Evangelicals are acting anything like Christ would?

Yeah, I do agree. We should be able to say that anyone who wants to practice their preferred religions should be able to in Armenia. I don't know though how much Turkey will be able to or ever allow themselves to have an open society. I have no faith in them. Needless to say I don't share your optimism towards them.

But what's a junior Pamuk?

Edited October 23, 2005 by Anahid Takouhi

[phantom22]

Anahid,

 

I have added to my previous post.

 

A "junior Pamuk" is one who believes in free speech and association in a society.

Edited October 23, 2005 by phantom22

[Takoush]

Anahid,

 

I have added to my previous post.

 

A "junior Pamuk" is one who believes in free speech and association in a society.

Thanks. I really believe in free speech and association in a society and in any given country, phantom. I've always been in the thinking that none of us is better than the other. Whether some of us are more powerful or rich, it really doesn't mean a thing to me. Nobody is better than the other. We are finite. We're here for a short time on this earth and we're all going to die and we all go through hurts and pains alike. Yes I really believe in this.

 

I'm sorry for not remembering your Pamuk saying.

 

No. Those evangelicals do not act like Jesus would. They are extremely rich. They holler a lot, they live in sin some of them, notorious womanizers. No. Never. Jesus would never do those things and it would definitely be extremely unacceptable for Him. In Jesus' eyes and God's eyes, you cannot be really rich and serve God as well. If you're rich then you are serving yourself and more the devil than God. Remember, when Jesus said; "It is easier for an elephant to go through a needle than a rich man to go to heavan." Meaning, it is absolutely unlikely for most, I mean most rich people to go to heavan. One rich man asked Jesus to be His follower, and Jesus said, "First give away all your wealth, then you will be able to go to heavan." But the rich man gave up the whole idea.

 

After Mary Magdelineh committed adultory, Jesus said to her, now that you dried my feet with your hair, your sins are done with. But go and do not sin again.

 

Plus, Jesus never said to go on T.V. and promote yourself and become famous like thos Evangelicals and do all the sins that some of them do commit. Jesus, would've been ashamed of them; and probably when they die, they'll either go to the pergutory for a veeerrrryyyy loooooong time, or not even be accepted in heavan ever. Who knows; but Jesus doesn't and wouldn't accept they're lifestyle ever. You are right again, and I also always wondered about them; and so I disliked them.

Edited October 23, 2005 by Anahid Takouhi

[phantom22]

The wealthy and powerful usually get "so full of themselves." My father was born into immense wealth. At nine years old the "silver spoon" was yanked out of his mouth. At 14, he was doing manual labor to survive in a foreign land. He died young.

 

Beria, an evil henchman of Stalin's (head of Secret Police) brutally murdered thousands, including many Armenians. He died on his knees begging for his life in a Soviet prison in late 1953.

 

Anahid,

 

THe passage you related from the Bible is a mistake. It is from a poor translation that has been carried down through he generations. The Aramic word for "rope" and "camel" were very similar. An early Greek monk, probably tired from transcribing for hours used the word "camel" by mistake. The passage should truly state "rope through the eye of a needle."

[Takoush]

Anahid,

 

THe passage you related from the Bible is a mistake. It is from a poor translation that has been carried down through he generations. The Aramic word for "rope" and "camel" were very similar. An early Greek monk, probably tired from transcribing for hours used the word "camel" by mistake. The passage should truly state "rope through the eye of a needle."

Your version makes more sense. I mean "rope through the eye of a needle." Thanks for the info.

 

It's too bad for your poor father, dying young after going through a lot of misery in life, working so hard then not even be able to live through some time to retire and relax a bit. I am sorry for that, for your poor father and for your sad memory.

[ED]

I dont see anything wrong on what she did, consider the number of christian Armenian women are "acomodating" arabs in Dubai she did the right thing.....many Iranian Armenians who are christians have a very secsesfull carriers among Persians and are adored by them, yet have very little contribution to Armenians or Armenian couses, one can ask a question of how much Armenian they are or if it makes any defaranence if they are muslems or apostolic christian?

 

I wish her happines and love with her hubby, faith does not destinguishes your patriotism, you can be a satanist for all i care, but a good Armenian

 

 

PS. In case some wondered, I'm not a satanist

[phantom22]

Are Armenians going to go East or West? Are we going to become part of the Arab and Islamic world or are we going to go back to our Western and Christian roots? Edited October 27, 2005 by phantom22

[Zartonk]

I think it is okay, I mean she is an individual and it is her life. HOWEVER, What I CANNOT TOLERATE BY ANY MEANS is the old diabolical nonsense that the Muslims have concerning marriage. Why is it that the Muslim spoue can't be the one merging within the others faith? Why cause social unease? This is not the first time I have seen this; happens all over the Islamic world.

[ED]

Are Armenians going to go East or West? Ae we going to become part of the Arab and Islamic world or are we going to go back to our Western and Christian roots?

 

 

Hagarag Armeians came a loong way to be just perfect where they are, we dont have to resemble anybdy or copy-cat the west or the east

[phantom22]

Most of the time it is the same with the Jews. Few children of the mixed marriage are raised as Christians. A notable exception was Barry Goldwater. Arlene Francis (Kazanjian's) son is a leader in the Jewish community. Edited October 24, 2005 by phantom22

[Dave]

Islamists make life almost impossible for Christians

 

Another example of how they deal with non-Muslims.

 

Christian DVD sparks riot

 

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/africa/10/21/egypt.church.riot.ap/story.vert.EGYPT.riot.ap.jpg

 

Muslims clash with police outside Egyptian church; 1 dead, 90 wounded

 

Friday, October 21, 2005; Posted: 10:01 p.m. EDT (02:01 GMT)

 

ALEXANDRIA, Egypt (AP) -- One person died and more than 90 were injured as thousands of Muslims rioted outside a Coptic Christian church Friday to denounce a play deemed offensive to Islam. Police responded by beating protesters and firing tear gas into the crowd, officials said.

 

Police said 53 protesters were arrested as people hurled stones, smashed windows and tried to storm St. George Church. Protesters also set a police car on fire and wrecked eight other cars, the Interior Ministry said in a statement.

 

A photographer for The Associated Press saw police fire rubber bullets into the crowd, causing injuries. Police claimed officers fired rubber bullets only into the air while trying to disperse the crowd.

 

One protester, Mohammed Zakaraya Hassan, 48, died after being trampled and inhaling tear gas, according to a police official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

 

The Interior Ministry described the protesters as "fanatic elements" who "escalated a negative reaction to a play." The ministry said about 5,000 Muslims marched to the church after Friday noon prayers at mosques.

 

"The police tried to prevent (the demonstrators) from approaching the church and attacking it, but the protesters did not heed the warnings and started to hurl stones at the church, security forces and pedestrians," the ministry said.

 

The riot was sparked by the distribution of a DVD of a play that was performed at the church two years ago. The play, "I Was Blind But Now I Can See," tells the story of a young Christian who converts to Islam and becomes disillusioned.

 

The church's director, the Rev. Augustinous, said it was difficult to explain the reaction to a one-time performance that took place two years ago.

 

"There are so many questions on what is behind all of that," he told the AP in a telephone interview.

 

He denied the play was offensive to Islam because its Christian hero is ultimately saved by a Muslim friend.

 

Egyptian security officials accused Islamic militants of distributing the DVDs to stoke sectarian tensions ahead of legislative elections Nov. 9.

 

The Muslim Brotherhood, the country's largest Islamic group, denied any involvement in Friday's demonstration.

 

Coptic Christians make up about 10 percent of Egypt's 70 million people, who are overwhelmingly Muslim. Accusations of forced conversion are common in the country.

 

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press

Edited October 24, 2005 by Dave

[phantom22]

Hagarag Armeians came a loong way to be just perfect where they are, we dont have to resemble anybdy or copy-cat the west or the east

 

You sound just like my ex-wife. So you think that Armenians are perfect just the way they are, smoking their smelly cigars, proud of their mens pors and untrimmed bushy and meeting eyebrows? I make sure that I am a "Hagarag" in my old age, no gray without dyeing it (I Diet!), exercise daily, and a good clean life!

 

I think that a lot of reforming is in order socially as well. Enough of the self-defeating division and enough of the clergy dictating behavior.

Edited October 24, 2005 by phantom22

[Takoush]

You sound just like my ex-wife. So you think that Armenians are perfect just the way they are, smoking their smelly cigars, proud of their mens pors and untrimmed bushy and meeting eyebrows? I make sure that I am a "Hagarag" in my old age, no gray without dyeing it (I Diet!), exercise daily, and a good clean life!

 

I think that a lot of reforming is in order socially as well. Enough of the self-defeating division and enough of the clergy dictating behavior.

Phantom:

 

Well I live like you really. I diet, I exercise, I am a very good Armenian cook; however I don't always cook Armenian cuisine and perposely so that I stay away from cholesterol and a lot of food that becomes fat and thickening the blood. I am very much Armenian at heart but I guess a refined or more Europeanised Armenian. I would like to say and suggest very much that my nationality would be more Europeanised, because; 1) We are Arians, 2) Most of our tribes came from Europe anyway, and 3) I'd much rather see us to be more Europeanised and be more progressive that way than not. By all means, feel Armenian and be proud of your culture and heritage and stay very close to it; but also be refined and not like the Bourj Hamoud ways; unfortunately they have copied the Arabs a great deal. I don't like to see my nationality preferring Arab music or taking the Arab music and putting Armenian words into it. That's what they do in Bourj Hamoud. I'd much rather see my nationality more refined and cultured more close to the European refined ways.

Edited October 24, 2005 by Anahid Takouhi

[ED]

You sound just like my ex-wife. So you think that Armenians are perfect just the way they are, smoking their smelly cigars, proud of their mens pors and untrimmed bushy and meeting eyebrows? I make sure that I am a "Hagarag" in my old age, no gray without dyeing it (I Diet!), exercise daily, and a good clean life!

 

I think that a lot of reforming is in order socially as well. Enough of the self-defeating division and enough of the clergy dictating behavior.

 

I didn’t call you Hagarag out of blue, its was you who assigned yourself to it, good fpr you, stay Hagarag, I dident know it aplied to your appearance,..

and I don’t know your ex wife….stop mentioning her time and time again…I feel like I know her already

 

your missing my point, I'm not advocating certain lifestyle as a definition as to what makes someone an Armenian, you sound like a primo Danna, eyebrows and hairy chests? Get real bud, if you could just for a moment exit from your “preferred” mentality and look at the question you'll realize what's in someone’s heart and mind that makes them Armenians, not the color of hair or the diet or sexual orientation and ..Oh yes…. certainly not the eyebrows.

 

 

we are not perfect, is there any nation perfect? its my people, and I say we have a work to do, but not in the realm of what you stated

Edited October 24, 2005 by Edward

[Armat]

Great. She just became half of what she used to be (by law).

 

I hope she QUICKLY consumates her marriage and stops being a virgin because in case she dies before that, she might end up having to service some terrorists up in heaven

lol you made my day

[Takoush]

Dave:

 

I am originally Egyptian Armenian, before my parents emigrated to Canada when I was quite young myself. I know such stories from my mom and dad that all Christians in Egypt were constantly afraid of the "Muslim Brotherhood" or in Arabic the "Akhouan's", because their mob can erupt at any given time and can be very frightening as you have heard in this news and the picture you showed us. Just like some of you noted in here, both Muslims and Jews are of extremely phanatic nature and they don't tolerate Christianity or anyone that's Christian. They always want you to convert to theirs, never the other way around.

Edited October 24, 2005 by Anahid Takouhi

[phantom22]

I didn’t call you Hagarag out of blue, its was you who assigned yourself to it, good fpr you, stay Hagarag, I dident know it aplied to your appearance,..

and I don’t know your ex wife….stop mentioning her time and time again…I feel like I know her already

 

your missing my point, I'm not advocating certain lifestyle as a definition as to what makes someone an Armenian, you sound like a primo Danna, eyebrows and hairy chests? Get real bud, if you could just for a moment exit from your “preferred” mentality and look at the question you'll realize what's in someone’s heart and mind that makes them Armenians, not the color of hair or the diet or sexual orientation and ..Oh yes…. certainly not the eyebrows.

we are not perfect, is there any nation perfect? its my people, and I say we have a work to do, but not in the realm of what you stated

 

Edward,

 

The first thing we can do is to return to our Eurabatzi roots instead of all the Turkish and Middle Eastern customs we have acquired. ...And I don't mean being Russians as many Armenians in the ROA are. I am sure that our historic ways did not include these foreign influences.

Edited October 24, 2005 by phantom22