nairi Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 What sounds do Armenian animals make? I'm very unfamiliar with this. Dog: haf haf Cock: tsughrughu What about other animals? This is a purely onomatopoeiac (bnadzaynakan) question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakachik77 Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 (edited) Kov: moooo Katu: myau myau Gar: Be (open e) like in French "saute" Edited February 10, 2005 by kakachik77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 fish: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Donkey: Eeee-aaa-eee-aaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 I didn't know that Animals spoke 'Armenian'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Actually animals speak Spanish as well, among other languages. For example, a Spanish chicken goes: Piu-Piu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 ճնճղուկ [jnjghuk] (how do you say this in english?): ծիվ-ծիվ [tsiv-tsiv] frog: kva-kva goat: մէէ [mee] with wavy [eee] crow: kar-kar snake: fshsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 parrot: ashot, ashot, ashot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 I remember the snake. But I think you made up the parrot and the frog. Unless you taught your parrot to say "Ashot" for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted February 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 parrot: ashot, ashot, ashot... style_images/master/snapback.png Thanks so far!! Actually, now I realize that I've heard many more of them passively, but I can't remember them actively (or I think I'm confusing them with other languages!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 (edited) As bnadzayn as can be. Shun; hachots, hachel Shnik; kaghkantsel (whine) Katu;mlav, mlavel Muk; jkots Esh;zrrots, zrral Dzi;mrinj, mrnjel Blbul; blblots Sokhak;daylayl, daylaylel Artuyt; geghgehel Agrav;grav-grav Gort; gortgortal Kov;barach, barachel Vochkhar' barbach, barbachel Jutik; jut-jut Aklor; kanch,kanchel Hndkahav; kul-kul Kachaghak;kachaghel (magpie) Aryuts;koral, (that's why its cub is called "koryun") Janj; jzzots Mzhegh;mzhots Bzez; bzzots Edited February 11, 2005 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 I remember the snake. But I think you made up the parrot and the frog. Unless you taught your parrot to say "Ashot" for some reason. style_images/master/snapback.png ok, sorry for lying... the parrot is valod, valod, valod... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 You lie like a Persian rug! I will never believe a word you say. My parrot died from pneumonia, after my brother decided to give him a bath. It shook like a scrawny chicken and then released its last breath. So jokes of this sort really set my heart on diabolic fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 How Chinese call the animals: Cat - Mao Dog - Gou Snake - Shaa Cow - Nuu All animals are named according to their sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 That's actually very interesting. What would Diomedeidae be in Chinese? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 That's actually very interesting. What would Diomedeidae be in Chinese? style_images/master/snapback.png I think Dae Dei Dia Mao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 (edited) Donkey: Eeee-aaa-eee-aaaa style_images/master/snapback.png That was sexy. Can you do a puppy? Edited February 11, 2005 by Armen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted February 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Arpa, that's very interesting and thank you, but I was looking for the sounds that animals represent. In English, for instance, a dog "barks", but the sound it represents is "woof". So an Armenian cat "mlavum e", but what sound does it represent? "Mlav-mlav"? Also, is there a difference between dialects in how sounds are represented? Does a WA rooster make the same sound as a EA one? That sort of stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Arpa, that's very interesting and thank you, but I was looking for the sounds that animals represent. In English, for instance, a dog "barks", but the sound it represents is "woof". So an Armenian cat "mlavum e", but what sound does it represent? "Mlav-mlav"? Also, is there a difference between dialects in how sounds are represented? Does a WA rooster make the same sound as a EA one? That sort of stuff style_images/master/snapback.png Nairi, you are right. What I gave above may be classified as the formal, literary terms , albeit most onomatopoaeic. What I had given could be classified as WA. Is there adifference between WA and EA? It also depends what size animal we are talking about. Is it a tsit(sparrow, finch) or an ang@gh (vulture)? Is it a kitten or a huge tomcat? The best way to arrive at what you are looking for is to see what we call those animals in baby talk, which usually is based on some kind of sound. To a baby a dog is vo-vo, obvious. A cat is pisik, based on the sound we make to call a cat, pis-pis-pis etc. A donkey would be cho-cho, based on the sound to drive the animal( in American it would be "gee". A cow would be moo-moo, a rooster- kukulik (based on kukuliku!!), a hen would be ju-ju, or chu-chu, hence jutik or chutik, once again the sound they make or we make to call them. Tsiv-tsiv or jiv-jiv for a bird, bz-bz for an insect.... etc. In fact, often a bird is called ch@chun a corruption of t@rchun or, once again bnadzayn. One wonders if the word "t@rchun is based on the bnadzayn "ch@chun" and a whole lexicon like "trchil= to fly".** **Remember to look up my take on the name of that bird that some call "turkey" that is based on the Armenian word "turchun" (In Latin "ch" sounds like K as in archipelago). In fact, in modern Italian "tachino" is the male turkey and "tachina" is the turkey hen (both CH's pronounced as K). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 What a great topic...because when I was in Japan I'd trip out about their animal sounds. I thought I was worldly but I realized that I'd never thought about what other cultures designated as animal sounds. Dogs in Japanese "wan wan wan" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 So an Armenian cat "mlavum e", but what sound does it represent? "Mlav-mlav"? style_images/master/snapback.png Is it possible that what others hear as "miau" Armenians heard as "mlau"? Nte the "u" ending. Not to forget that the "U/hyun" was never meant to sound like the "V/ve". Mesrop may not have been the most smart of them but he was not so stupid as to repeat the sound of V twice. The Hyun was meant and was pronounced as the English W, hence the reason for its invention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 (edited) nairi, Did you notice that Western Armenians did an excellent job in remembering children songs, yet had no - or almost no - contribution in this thread? Why is it so? Is it because we have been deprived from our Lands - still infested by *urks - and had to settle in big cities, away from animals? PS. I am auto censoring "*urk" because it is an unpleasant word, with evil and immoral connotations! Edited February 11, 2005 by Siamanto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gor-Gor Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Arpa -- Perhaps the wrong thread to bring this up in. But, was the Armenian word for "wheel" supposed to be pronounced "aniw" and "number" as "tiw"? Or were these words developed after the change from W to V had already occurred? Oh, and I just noticed - when the "huin" is preceded by "ini" (in Mashdots spelling) - the sound they make together kind of has a "w" in it. Like "tsuin" (snow). Sorry I have no contributions to make to this thread. All I know is hachel and zrral, and I just learned about mlavel the other day. lol My family actually uses "zrral" to mean something like "talking too much." Mi zrrar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 So an Armenian cat "mlavum e", but what sound does it represent? "Mlav-mlav"? style_images/master/snapback.png I know some cats that say mlav-mlav when they wish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Sip: Ketchup buffet ketchup buffet Azat: Ima boneheaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Movses: Vicodin Vicodin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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