Arpa Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Sorry I have no contributions to make to this thread. All I know is hachel and zrral, and I just learned about mlavel the other day. lol My family actually uses "zrral" to mean something like "talking too much." Mi zrrar! style_images/master/snapback.png Dear Gor-Gor, Did you choose your nickname because your mother used to tell you: " Sus eghir. Shat mi grgrar"(zrrar)! :) Only kidding. We love you whether you speak in the "gor-gor" dialect or the "um-um". As to tiw and aniw, I'll have to look it up... again. In the meantime read the following where I promised to get back to "qoueh", and "zar". The dice used in backgammon which at times is called "veg". http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10...=0entry136183 I will under another topic in the language section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 (edited) Sip: Ketchup buffet ketchup buffet Azat: Ima boneheaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Movses: Vicodin Vicodin style_images/master/snapback.png Sip, for once you have it all wrong. Vay qo din@ taghem!! It is, Sip; buf-buf Azat; her-her and Movses it is; dud-dud (duduk). :) Edited February 12, 2005 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Arpa jan, du mi ban ka Hayeren, kam Hayeri masin, vor chimanas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 (edited) Arpa jan, du mi ban ka Hayeren, kam Hayeri masin, vor chimanas? style_images/master/snapback.png Ayo Edo Jan, Mi ban. Es takavin chem haskatsel the Hayere inchu eskan severuats (obsesses) en Turkov eu Hryayov. Is is because we don't know enough about ourselves and we cover up by skirting the issues and talk about other MK "faex populi"?** When one knows enough languages, be they European or eastern it is very easy to know Armenian since the latter is the "mother" and the root of all. ** Du kites inch e "faex populi"? Hayerenov; "kghkghanq zhoghovurdi". Edited February 12, 2005 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Arpa jan, du mi ban ka Hayeren, kam Hayeri masin, vor chimanas? style_images/master/snapback.png Iyo edward qei jan ka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Sip: Ketchup buffet ketchup buffet Azat: Ima boneheaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Movses: Vicodin Vicodin style_images/master/snapback.png correctttiion - Sip: Ketchup buffet jeep ketchup buffet in my jeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted February 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Did you choose your nickname because your mother used to tell you: " Sus eghir. Shat mi grgrar"(zrrar)! :)style_images/master/snapback.png We have "zor tal" in Persian Armenian, which basically means to complain. Like "shat as zor talis!" Assuming that "zor" is a Farsi/Arabic (?) word. Thanks for the rest of the contributions! From a bit of observation, I think there is a difference in dialects. I don't think I've ever heard "vo-vo" for dog. "Kukuliku" seems to be WA for "tsughrughu" in EA. I'm sure there are more differences like these; and many more similarities of course. All interesting in their own way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 (edited) Thanks for the rest of the contributions! From a bit of observation, I think there is a difference in dialects. I don't think I've ever heard "vo-vo" for dog. "Kukuliku" seems to be WA for "tsughrughu" in EA. style_images/master/snapback.png Without going into much detail it seems obvious that both words for rooster, aqlor and aqaghagh are bnadzayn I don't remember all of it, neither do I remember where and who had written it. Below, some lines are reconstructed. Erku aqlor, erku khev, Min@ chalik, myus@ sev, Min@ myusen krvazan Irar vera khoyatsan Ha zarketsin, ktsetsin, Ira petur kzzetsin, Ver ev nerqev nonq tran Sev aqlorn vera chalkan Peturner@ ouretats Sev@ ayspes klklats. Kukulikuuuu!! Haghtetsiiii! Chalikin achq@ hanetsi. Edited February 12, 2005 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 In one of the posts above where I listed some animals and their sounds I also included "kachaghak". I was sure that it was an onomatopupupopo...., oh heck bnadzayn. I had not looked it up at the time. Sure enough, it is. And it is based on the sound the bird makes- "kachaghel". It also mentions that some of our neighbors have similar words for the bird. Of course "kachaghak" (magpie) is not a much loved bird and at times it is used to describe people who contrary to their insistence don't have a lovely voice, be it spoken or in song. I am also happy that I looked it up, since I had forgotten that another name to that ugly bird is "andzegh". Toumanian has many works about animals, mostly birds where he may imitate their sounds. I did not know about this; Kachaghaki Dzagoum@ (hin zrouyts) 1890 The Origin of kachaghak(magpie) (an old saying) Zruyts ka, the Pierusi Aghchikner@ anzgam Dzen tvetsin Olymposi Muzanerin* mi angam. "Ekeq, asin, the karogh eq, Mez het ergi mrtsutyan..." Ou enqan er (lirb, hamardzak) N@rants koch@ martakan.\, Or anmahnern aradz irents Q@narner@ oskelar Tsadz jakhretsin Olymposi Bartsounqnerits vehapar, Dzavalvetsin veh erger@... Ou, jgnelov, nrants mot Pierusi aghchikner@ Jghjghatin anamot. Jghjghatsin inchpes (anmit) Kachaghakner lezvagar, Ev erb lrrets ergn u jich@, Hangav vej@ u payqar. Dartsel eyin nranq arden Kachaghakner lezvani, Or anshnorhq grchaknerin** Ahegh khrat misht lini. Ch-handgnen mtnel veji Jghjghalov nrants het, Oronts astvats tvav ergchi Dzirq u qnar arhavet. As expected Toumanian does not hide his disdain and dsilike of that much maligned bird.The gist of the story is- That the daughters of Perius challenge the muses of Olympus to a singing contest, and of course with their ugly voices they lose it hence the birth of the bird. The last verse goes; (And they) Dare not enter into an argument, with their jghjghanq, with those to whom God has given the talent and eternal lyre**. * Toumanian spells it as "muza", others insist on "musa". **Is there a message here? To whom? Don't look at me! Besides being color blind, I am also deaf and dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Without going into much detail it seems obvious that both words for rooster, aqlor and aqaghagh are bnadzayn style_images/master/snapback.png tsughrughu narnji, (any comments on this line?) aghjik unem tan@ chi, gnatsel e banjari, banjar chka, xot ka, xoti takin tsit ka, tsit@ trav geranin, kanach xot@ beranin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gor-Gor Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Dear Gor-Gor, Did you choose your nickname because your mother used to tell you: " Sus eghir. Shat mi grgrar"(zrrar)! :) Only kidding. We love you whether you speak in the "gor-gor" dialect or the "um-um". Precisely! Well, it was actually more like "Lre dzo. Shad zrras ne, Asdvadz baban vrat kar gu nede!" Oh I can feel the love, Arpa. Merci shad shad koo khoskeroot hamar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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