Sebastia Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 (edited) You guys, this is all over the news in Armenia. AN Armenian military officer attending a NATO Partnership for Peace program was hacked to death with an axe and a knife today by an Azerbaijani participant, police officials said. Budapest police Major Valter Fulop told reporters that the suspect, identified as Ramil S, was detained without resistance accused of committing murder with "unusual cruelty". "We say 'unusual cruelty' because beside a number of knife wounds on his chest, the victim's head was practically severed from his body," Fulop said. The Armenian Defence Ministry identified the suspect as Lieutenant Ramil Safari of Azerbaijan and the victim as Lieutenant Gurgen Markarian of Armenia. The interrogation of Safari and witnesses - including Markarian's Hungarian roommate - was under way, police Major Jozsef Szigeti said. The officers were attending an English language course within the framework of NATO's Partnership for Peace program, which is aimed at increasing cooperation between neutral and former Soviet bloc nations and NATO in peacekeeping and other areas. Police said a political motive for the murder was among the possibilities being considered and were also looking into how the suspect obtained the murder weapons. The Armenian Defence Ministry's statement said the murder was "a result of the bellicose anti-Armenian propaganda, unleashed by the authorities of Azerbaijan lately". Relations between the two former Soviet Republics remain tense after Armenian-backed forces drove Azerbaijan's army out of the ethnic Armenian enclave of Nagorno-Artsax in the early 1990s. http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/st...55E1702,00.html Edited March 3, 2004 by Sebastia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARR Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 (edited) The Evil has shown its face again! This once again proves that Artsax must be independent of Azerbaijan and Azeries. The blood thirsty military machine of Azerbaijan has succeeded in creating fanatics and haters. But they can only strike at sleeping. They are the bravest when their opponents are asleep, elderly, women, or children. We have seen all that in Sumgait, Baku, Kirovabad and in Artsax. But, in the battlefield they are coward like sheep which they are. Let this be an example to OBSE, Minks Group, Nato, and others that try to settle the Artsax conflict. How can Artsax be part of a country that hates them, that tried to exterminate its entire population, and keeps threatening? Edited February 19, 2004 by ARR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Very tragic indeed. It shows the cowardice and barbarism of our pathetic neighbors. We can never trust them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Chilling news.I had chills going through my spine reading this.Every time I read similiar incidents it just takes me back to 1915. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lev7 Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 (edited) This story is just horrific. These people and I am reffering to Azeri's are nothing but animals. Here is the link: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...menian_killed_2 Edited February 20, 2004 by Lev7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Knight Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 This is messed up. Is the Azveri in Azveri or NATO custody? Most likely he will be released with a slap on the cheek. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 I hope the Hungarian police does the same to that animal its times like these when I agree with gamavor - a good turk is a dead turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Sebastya can ve send you cat to BUdapesh ??? http://www.thegev.com/images/potd/sniperkat.jpg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 It is indeed horrible. The Azeris showed their true nature - they're nothing but barbarians. Even if he really wanted to kill, he could've just shot with a gun, but he actually hacked the Armenian officer with an axe. What an animal! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 And it's not only the Azeris, but the Turks and the Muslim culture in general. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Why doesn't the U.S. news report this??? Well... I know why. What an evil world we really are living in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 This should be taken to the highest levels at NATO. The Azeris should be censored by the NATO high command. Robertson should condemn this in the most emphatic terms. This is the second strike for them after they kept the Armenians out of the exercizes in Baku. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 This will permanently settle the Karabagh question. What international group will have credibilty after this if they suggest granting Azerbaijan sovereignity over Karabagh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 (edited) This will permanently settle the Karabagh question. What international group will have credibilty after this if they suggest granting Azerbaijan sovereignity over Karabagh? Oil flowing from Baku has already sealed the fate of Armenia. The west has only two phrases that pay, which is "God Bless America" and "Long live the Queen", the rest really are not that important as long as these two remain. Edited May 31, 2004 by Vigil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Should thank the heavens it was an Azeri lieutenant with the psychosis and not a German, for a German officer would have eaten him after hacking him to death. I hear cannibalism is rife there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 BTW, anyone tried to post those links on Turkey dot com or /\zerigenocide dot org? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 This is very bad for them. It will create bad publicity for them just like the ASALA actions created bad publicity for us. It just shows that the Genocide continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Should thank the heavens it was an Azeri lieutenant with the psychosis and not a German, for a German officer would have eaten him after hacking him to death. I hear cannibalism is rife there. In case anyone is wondering This Article is what Stormy's refering to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastia Posted February 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 (edited) Sebastya can ve send you cat to BUdapesh http://www.thegev.com/images/potd/sniperkat.jpg Mos, the cat is on its way!!!!!!! Edited February 20, 2004 by Sebastia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Them Turkic peoples get Islamier by the minute. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud EXPAT Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Thursday 19, February 2004 Armenian Officer Axe-Murdered By Azeri Colleague In Hungary By Harry Tamrazian in Prague An Armenian army officer attending a NATO training course in Hungary was hacked to death by an Azerbaijani colleague on Thursday in what official Yerevan condemned as a `brutal' act resulting from a long-running `anti-Armenian hysteria' in Azerbaijan. The Hungarian police said the 26-year-old man, identified by the Armenian military as Lieutenant Gurgen Markarian, was killed in his asleep by a fellow officer from Azerbaijan who intruded into his room early in the morning. They said the suspect was arrested shortly afterwards. The Hungarian Defense Ministry confirmed the information. `Early in the morning the suspected murderer went into the other person's room and killed him with an axe,' a ministry spokesman, Peter Matyuc, told RFE/RL from Budapest. `He didn't show any resistance to police, they got him easily after being alerted by roommates.' Major Valter Fulop of the Budapest police was quoted by the Associated Press as saying that the murder was committed with `unusual cruelty.' `We say 'unusual cruelty' because besides a number of knife wounds on his chest, the victim's head was practically severed from his body,' Fulop said. The Hungarian authorities said they have launched a criminal investigation and will not comment on possible motives for the killing until it is complete. `The suspected murderer was arrested in the morning and the Hungarian police will conduct an investigation. I hope we will find out the reason why it happened,' Matyuc said. A NATO spokesman in Brussels also had no comment. Armenia's Defense Ministry, meanwhile, said it was `deeply shocked' by the officer's death and pledged to do `everything possible and impossible to subject the murderer arrested by the Hungarian authorities to deserved punishment.' `This crime is the logical consequence of the anti-Armenian hysteria that has been left unreined by the Azeri authorities over the years and of the warmongering militarist propaganda of recent months, which consistently infects all of Azeri society,' the Armenian Foreign Ministry said in a separate statement. `It is evident that such state policy has crossed the bounds and officials, representing Azerbaijan abroad, can commit cold-blooded murder.' `The Ministry expects that the international organizations will appropriately assess this crime and react. At the same time, we demand that the Hungarian authorities punish the perpetrator to the maximum extent of the law.' Diplomats from the Armenian embassy in Vienna have already arrived in Budapest and are `working with the police' there, the statement added. Markarian was one of two junior Armenian officers who were attending an English-language course at Hungary's top military academy within the framework of NATO's Partnership for Peace (PfP) program. The Armenian Foreign Ministry said that his unidentified comrade also faced an attempt on his life by the same person but that it was foiled. It did not elaborate. Matyuc said Markarian shared his room with a Hungarian colleague who was the first person to find him dead and alert the police. `According to the police report, there was a witness, the Hungarian roommate of the Armenian officer,' he said, adding that the victim and the attacker lived `next door' from one another. The Budapest police said the arrested Azerbaijani is 27 years old and referred to him as Ramil S. The Armenian military identified his last name as Safarov. The slaying, the first of its kind in the history of the Nagorno-Artsax conflict, could further poison the atmosphere in the long-running Armenian-Azerbaijani peace talks that show no signs of an imminent breakthrough. The Defense Ministry statement portrayed it as another example of `the extreme and fanatical attitudes of the Azerbaijani authorities.' It also reminded of Baku's apparent unwillingness to allow Armenian soldiers to take part in a PfP military exercise which is due to take place in Azerbaijan this summer. There was no immediate reaction to the incident from Azerbaijan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastia Posted February 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Oh. you're not gonna believe this!!!!! here's some more from the incident. go head and read the whole article .... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3508003.stm .... but pay attention to this part The ministry appealed to Armenia to show restraint, and said the killing should not cause any further deterioration in relations between Armenia and Azerbaijan. P.S. thats what the azeri ministry of defence stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Who gets bad publicity - unlike what the self-professed forum professer professes, it will not mean that Azerbaijan will be kicked out of partnerships or what have you. That's for the morons. If the details hadn't been so full of gore, I would have feared that the publicizing of this story would be pretty bad, as the murderer could claim delivering his own justice for the "Khodjaly Genocide" or something like that - now that would have reflected badly, and not on Azeris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigil Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 (edited) Notice the subtile differences in the BBC report and the one above... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3508003.stm They are justifying the killing by stating that the Armenian "insulted" the Ajeri. Also notice how they state that the killing was "alleged", which is kind of strange don't you think? One final note is that they state that the reason for the killing is b ecause of the NG war. Now why would they try to make it seem like there is 2 sides to the story? Edited May 31, 2004 by Vigil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Of course, the Azeris blame the victim according to their filthy habit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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