MJ

OK. Our first lesson is over. Azat missed his chance, today. Homework assignment #1: 1. Practice the riles of crisp speech; 2. Till the next lesson, every night, before falling asleep, repeat to yourself 25 times: "I will only speak about things I know enough;" 3. Repeat another 25 times: "I love Armenia." Now, I need to go and take care of my appetite.

quote:Originally posted by Domino:You see how lazy I am, I meant to say perspicacity. I am not referring to the spelling. Most frequently, when I read my own post, I feel outraged by my on spelling errors. I am still referring to simplicity.

You linked his book to the alleged decision of INS. INS is abbreviation for Immigration and Naturalization Service. That was out of context. America is a free country – anyone who can finance it, can publish any book he/she wants. What’s your point about the book being distributed for free at the State Department? Are you insinuating that the State department has no better means of identifying which ones are the states supporting terrorism and they are going to rely on his book, moreover, to read his book? Now, I wouldn’t encourage you, since you definitely are headed in the wrong direction. You are wasting your energy, valuable time, etc. In this case, I am not a westerner with all the "motivational speech" blah, blah, blah. When it comes to education, I would rather be an easterner with a whip in my hands. Than, you would learn what the spanking is about.

quote:Originally posted by Domino:...prespicasity... [/QB] What a word...

quote:Originally posted by Domino:http://www.aaainc.org/researchinfo/IssueBriefWeems.pdf Here some reading about him for a start. The second site is dead, it meant to be my site about Weems. The hoster took it out. OK. I read few sentences, and even with all the time I have to kill today, I wouldn't read it any further. To confess, you puzzle me a lot, Domino. Don't you have anything useful to do and you go after every idiot to silence his bark? Also, don't you think that when you bring something like this to the forefront, you will lose credibility if you take things out of their context or don't present them in their context? Consider this as our first lesson.

quote:Originally posted by Domino: Here we come, here is my first class results. I admit my ignorance of US politics. Another thing, you do not believe me, like you do not believe the republicans ? Is that mean that you consider me as a poltician ? Then why being so slow of writing my recommendation letter to become a politician, when I satisfy the first rule of how being a politician(that is to not be believed).[/QB] Domino, 1. Speak simple language not a convoluted one. (You suck at expressing convoluted thoughts. ) 2. Don't talk about things which you don't know or you don't know enough; 3. Do you understand now why was I reluctant to offer you a position in my administration?

quote:Originally posted by Domino:Oh my god, MJ, you really were absent those days. Are you telling me you ignore him ? Here is his site. http://www.stjohnpress.com/ And here was my site about him(mean to be ) http://www.stjohnpress.cjb.net/ I'm ready to tell you all about him, but it'll cost some free more classes for me. The first site doesn't warrant attention. the second one is disfunctional. Who is he? Don't be greedy. First, consume what you already have.

It was meant to be "now." As one can see, I have a lot of time at my hands, today.

quote:Originally posted by Domino: How can you still believe those republicans ? I imagine now the Turkish press having something to put in their mouths for years to come. I don't believe netiher republicans nor you, Domino. But I share most of their values. Now, maybe you have to also explain to me what do the republicans have to do with the issue at hands? Did you see any "republican" word in that material?

quote:Originally posted by Domino:Here Martin http://www.kemalisturk.com I have archivated many documentations about him in the past, and articles he wrote, I had put a page about him, that was closed down for a reason I ignore. If you know some Armenian associations that are ready to sue him, I can provide some material that is somewhere in my HD... like missrepresentation of him being a judge(when he is not) etc... I think thats a crime, or using a Babtist association host, hosting his site, etc... It would be easy to get his site down by threatning the Babtists hosters. I had no chance still to order his book, so that would be a Christmiss gift for me. Ah and, I don't know if you know, hundreds of copies of the book were given for free to the US state departement... You didn't bring any serious sources. What is the status of that guy? Who is he?

quote:Originally posted by Loreley:We do have more means of communication than ever before, but as you said it is less meaningful communication. I think that is what the author is trying to say too. It is too bad that there so many ways to communicate now but people don't communicate as much as we could(at the human level). Actually, I think the communication is not any less then before. In fact, as mentioned it is much more intensive. However, we are losing our ability to listen. Listening to each other is becoming a real challenge. P.S. BTW, welcome Loreley. If you give me your vote, I will push your Personal Bill of Right through the legislature. [ December 14, 2002, 03:13 PM: Message edited by: MJ ]

Domino, Where has this material been published?

quote:Originally posted by Domino:So which Armenian still support the republicans, I do. quote: that I can come and spank him. Now, with this "spanking business," lately… is it what it looks it is? If yes, I know some people who can open a whole new perspective for you, Domino.

No idea, Azat. I just received an email from them, and posted it.

quote:Originally posted by Domino: Years later, I come to you, with a piece of paper and ask you to write your recommendation letter, I become minister of education. So how's that ? Deal! No, be nice and promise me your vote.

quote:Originally posted by Domino:

Sorry. [ December 14, 2002, 06:56 AM: Message edited by: MJ ]

quote:Originally posted by EZ: Over the past two weeks, Kocharian's nomination received endorsements from the Republican, Country of Law (Orinats Yerkir) and Democratic Liberal (Ramkavar Azatakan) Parties, the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnaktsutiun) and several organizations comprised of local self-government, business and humanitarian leaders. Like the hymn of Russian Monarchists goes:"Bojhe czaria khroni.." - "God Keep the Czar." [ December 14, 2002, 06:57 AM: Message edited by: MJ ]

quote:Originally posted by EZ: It is very easy to corrupt helpless people - all you do is make them believe that there is no hope for better future.

quote:Originally posted by QRISTINE: If we would like to keep our culture alive it does not give you the Right MJ TO CALL US XENOPHOBICS. At least I have the right to an attorney and the right to remain silent, I hope...

--------------------------------------------------------------- ++ ANCA News Update ++ ANCA News Update ++ ANCA News Update ++ --------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.anca.org December 13, 2002 ANCA Calls On The Bush Administration To Explain New Regulation Requiring Registration of Armenian Citizens Armenian Immigrants Targeted Along With Saudi Arabian and Pakistani Immigrants Washington, DC - In a deeply troubling development, the Republic of Armenia will be added to a list of countries whose non-immigrant male nationals over the age of 16 residing in the United States must register with the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS). After September 11, 2001, the INS began requiring nationals from designated countries believed to harbor terrorists to submit to this special registration process. These designated countries include: Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Sudan, Syria, and the United Arab Emirates, among others. The news, however, of the Republic of Armenia being included into this group of nations has raised concerns for the Armenian community across the nation. Anticipating an announcement, the ANCA and Armenian community leaders have expressed outrage at this decision by the INS and the Bush Administration, questioning why Armenia is being singled out and included on such a list. Armenia is the only former Soviet republic to be included as well as the only Christian country. Since the events on September 11, 2001, Armenia was one of the first countries to offer the United States its full cooperation in the War on Terrorism. The ANCA issued a statement to be delivered to President George W. Bush calling on him to explain this sudden and inexplicable decision by the Administration, and to make public any information that may have led to the inclusion of Armenia on such a list. "We are deeply troubled by this decision on the part of the Bush Administration," stated Aram Hamparian, ANCA Executive Director. "We call upon President Bush to explain why Armenia has been singled out for this treatment when the U.S. government has never considered Armenia to be the home of any terrorist organization, unlike the other countries on the INS list. Armenian Americans throughout the United States deserve to know why the President has chosen this discriminatory policy when only a few months ago he was expressing the United States' profound gratitude for Armenia's cooperation in the War on Terrorism." On April 24 2002, President Bush stated: "The United States greatly values the contributions Armenians make to our national life (…) The United States is also deeply grateful for Armenia's swift and decisive cooperation in the war against terrorism. Just as the United States reached out to the Armenian people to provide shelter and freedom early in the last century, so did Armenia extend a supportive hand to the American people in the immediate aftermath of September 11. Our two peoples stand together in this fight in support of values that define civilization itself." The ANCA has also raised the issue of Azerbaijan's conspicuous absence form this list, given its record of harboring Al-Qaeda terrorists dating back to 1992. Additionally, the Republic of Georgia, which has frequently been cited by the U.S. government as being a place of refuge for Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups, is also absent from the INS list. The Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) is the largest and most influential Armenian American grassroots political organization. Working in coordination with a network of offices, chapters, and supporters throughout the United States and affiliated organizations around the world, the ANCA actively advances the concerns of the Armenian American community on a broad range of issues. ===================================================================== Published by the: Armenian National Committee of America 888 17th Street NW Suite 904 Washington, DC 20006 Tel: (202) 775-1918 Fax: (202) 775-5648 E-mail: anca@anca.org Internet: http://www.anca.org For more information, contact: Elizabeth S. Chouldjian (202) 775-1918

Arpa, It is my turn to call you Srika. You stole my thunder - read my Presidential Platform...

OK. On a slightly more serious note... I would have tried to inject a positive outlook for the future of Armenia and faith in our abilities. Would try to elevate the moral of the nation. Next, I would try to create a climate of cooperation in the country and make everyone who loves Armenia - from Idjevan to Goris, from Stepanakert to Paris, from Los Angeles to Watertown MA to feel that they are the owners of Armenia. I would come out and say, "This is our last chance in history - make it or break it. There is not going to be another Armenia. This is the only Armenia that has realistically ever existed and is going to exist." I will say, "Leave the symbols aside (read screw the symbols). 1000 symbols are not worth a human life. 10000 symbols cannot substitute a Homeland." I will also tell them, "Life is competition if you want to win it, go and win - no one will deliver it on a silver plate to you." Then I will bring together all the thieves, criminals, mobsters, state employees … and will say, " whatever you have plundered is enough - there is nothing even left to plunder. Either leave or do something good. Try to become good. This is your only alternative. The other alternative is death for all of us. " Next, I will assign Boghos as Prime Minister, Alpha as the Head of Central Bank, Arpa as Minister of Culture, TB as the head of Counterintelligence Service, will promote Steve/Bellthecat for a leading position in the Academy of Sciences of Armenia. I will also ask Thorny Rose to become the Ambassadore of Armenia in Turkey. Then, I will buy a vineyard in Dilijan, resign from my post (and ask to Garo to take over so that things can get done) and have these guys to run the country. And I will invite you, Mosjan, to my vineyard and will play nardi with you and talk about how good it was years ago to invest so much time and resources in Hye Forum. Then we will grab Thoth and go to the basement to have him choose the best barrel of wine and the three of us will enjoy it for the rest of the time - while the youth works – they would have a lot of work to do, including to figure out what position to assign to each member of Hye Forum to. Their time to drink wine will come when they would get the work done. Forgot to say… someone would need to screw a new light-bulb in the basement – that’s the problem the three of us would need to solve. I hope we would have some minimum wage immigrant employees from some of the newly accepted to the EU countries do it for us.

Like the old Yerevan joke said, "I will declare war to America and will surrender immediately." P.S. Just kidding. [ December 13, 2002, 06:08 PM: Message edited by: MJ ]

quote:Originally posted by Aaron: even if i'm against it because it goes against the interests of the republic of Armenia (could also be discussed!). I think that quite the opposite is true.