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http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/charent-house-turkey-kars.jpg A few days ago we saw a shorter version of this where it was mentioned that an Armenian from Bolis had offered to buy it, and that foreigners, non-citizens cannot buy property there. In a related story we read that Charents’ much neglected house museum in Yerevan was being fixed. ================== Arts and Culture | 10.11.10 | 12:49 Debatable Destiny: “Charents” house up for sale in Kars Photo: Taron Baloyan “My house left in Kars, by the river bank, built of stones rough-cut” – here is what remains of Charents' house in Kars (modern Turkey). By Gayane Abrahamyan ArmeniaNow reporter Recent information from Turkish media that a great Armenian writer’s ancestral house in Kars (modern Turkey) was for sale for about $180,000 gave rise to more debate in Armenia about Yeghishe Charents’ house. Some doubt that it is his real house, others call for a fundraising to buy the house that belonged to the writer’s father.Charents (1897-1937) is held as one of the most outstanding Armenian poets of the 20th century, with his works covering a wide range of topics, but most importantly Armenia and Armenians. An early champion of communism, Charents later grew disillusioned with the Bolshevik regime and was executed during the Stalinist purges. On November 6, the Turkish daily Hurriyet wrote that Charents’ house had been put up for sale, and the Dogan News Agency said that “the decrepit house was taken up by drug addicts.” “Drug addicts have turned the space of about 100 square meters, including three rooms and a small garden into their den. And the neighborhood residents demand that it be either demolished or reconstructed,” it said. Any Armenian who visits Kars in what is now eastern Turkey goes to this house first. A recent visit found the house in a much more decrepit condition than it was only a few months earlier. The old wooden gate was broken, there was a sofa and clothes in one room, as well as fresh packs of cigarettes and bottles. Some of the neighbors said two homeless men had used the house as shelter. Two written signs “For Sale” with an indicated telephone number, old and outdated, are posted on the site. “We also heard that it was an Armenian writer’s home, but it should be restored, now it has become a dump,” Yunos Sengul, a 68-year-old Kars resident, told ArmeniaNow. Sengul’s parents used to live in Yerevan and after the establishment of the Soviet regime in eastern Armenia moved to Kars. “My mother spoke a little Armenian, knew some Armenian songs,” he says. Very few people in Kars actually know about Charents’ house. When those who actually know its location want to give directions to visitors they’d usually call it “a ruined house under a big tree.” The wall of the entrance to the ruined house nestling under a tall poplar tree where the writer was supposedly born has an inscription in Armenian: “Charents lived here”, and next to this there is an inscription in Turkish: “God created everyone equal.” The author of the Turkish note is Yilmaz Akkaya, a 26-year-old student at Kars University, who is a participant in the Beraber (translated Together) project jointly held in Kars and Gyumri in Armenia. As part of the project jointly with Armenian participants he shot a film about Charents and says he had discovered not only Armenians, but also the Armenian writer. “I learned about Charents during our program and tried to find his works, which were only in English translation and I read it with difficulties, but understood that he is a truly great writer and the house where he lived should be preserved, it is particularly important for us, Turks,” Yilmaz told ArmeniaNow. State authorities in Turkey are silent about the sale or demolition of the Charents home. The head of the Kars municipality public relations department says that it is outside their reach, because the house is privately owned. An agreement was reached about the restoration of Charents’ house between director of the Charents museum in Yerevan Lilit Hakobyan and the former mayor of Kars, who is known as a vocal supporter of Armenian-Turkish normalization and installed in Kars a big monument called “Friendship” and dedicated to Armenian-Turkish friendships. “We had a preliminary agreement to repair it and turn into a culture house, we suggested also building a small hotel next to the house, where Armenians who arrive from different parts of the world can stay,” says Hakobyan, adding that the former mayor received the idea warmly, however the negotiations were frozen after the assassination of Hrant Dink, a Turkish-Armenian journalist and minority rights champion, in Istanbul in January 2007. Meanwhile, there are still lingering doubts about whether what is presented as Charents’ ancestral home is actually his father’s house. Charents expert David Gasparyan says there are two houses that are ascribed to Charents and a research should be conducted to establish which one was the real family home. “Still in 2005 when I was visiting [Kars] as part of a group of intellectuals we placed wreaths near two houses, because we did not know which one was the real [Charents] home. This matter needs a serious research,” says Gasparyan. Source URL: http://www.armenianow.com/arts_and_culture/25753/charents_house_turkey ====================

Ահ՜ վերջապէս!! Can you guys see the scripts below? Please click on the right or left arrows to see the particular articles. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k374450b.image.f5.langEN In this novellas there areseveral references to Syphilis. In the Armenian that disease is known as "frankakht/Ֆրանկախտ"-French Disease** http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k374450b.image.f14.langEN **Did Napoleon suffer of that disease? Many who pretend to be him do. --- OK! All you HOUSE TECH-GEEKS! How about converting the above site to a readable and quotable version? -- PS. In Ruben Sevak’s biography we read that he was born in a relatively prosperous family of Hovannes Chilingirian, an ironsmith at first, then a merchant of ironware, who saw that his children get the best of available education, so much so that he even supported Ruben during his medical training in Lausanne., and that Ruben chose his penname Sevak (black/dark-eyed) because of his rather dark skin complexion and black eyes. It is curious that my mother’s uncle (kerayr) by marriage who was murdered in 1915 was also known as Hovannes Chilingirian. Although in the biography it is intimated that the family were ironsmiths, to see what “chilingir” really means we will go to Language.

One commenter at the above article wrote this; Oh yeah!! Witch!! Վհուկ!! http://blogs.dixcdn.com/shine_a_light/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/wicked_witch.gif Did she write this sitting in the nude at a mirror? How about this Armenian Beauty?? http://hetq.am/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/a-grigoryan_6.11.1012.jpg

It must have a mere premonition or hinted by a coming torrent. Look what has been written at HETQ; http://hetq.am/en/culture/imaginal-vision/ http://hetq.am/en/culture/a-arevshatyan/ http://hetq.am/en/culture/frontal/ In the meantime, when I get all my thoughts together we will see the meaning of those Armenian words.

And, what if Cherkez/Cherkes/Charkaz/Charkas/Cicassian is related to Xerxes? Many articles show a connection. The following does not open any better, may be for the better as the site seems to be suspicious, but see the google teaser. I will not open the site but see how he calls himself "cherkes" in the Russian and the Greek; Xerxes, to be read as the Greek “khserkhses”and the Armenian, obviously from the Greek qserqses/ Քսերքսէս: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerxes_I_of_Persia -- **In fact the above Farsi script is meant to read as “khshayarsha”. AHHH!! There are two Քսերքսէս Xerxeses in Armenian historiography. One is obviously the above Persian, and the other is an Armenian King of Commagene, purportedly the son of Arsham. What if that King may also have been known as SHAVARSH/khshayarsha/خشایارشا

Good find Boghos. I had no idea. First off the orthographical anomaly where it is spelled “cherkezoGai” it was apparently meant “cherkezaHay” (the Armenian H becomes G in the Russian.) Google will respond to search of “Չերքեզահայ”, and it is affirmed in the SAE under the monograph of “Չերքեզահայեր/Cherkezahayer” Their saga (emigration) begins in the XV century extending all the way to the present. They are apparently quasi-Armenians, not unlike the Hamshens who have migrated from Crimea, to Nor Armavir, even if many of them may still speak a so called “Armenian dilaect?” Many, succumbing to oppression have taken Islam as their religion. Please google and se how many sites respond to a search of "cherkezian", (About 8,760 results). Why are there so many Armenian families named Cherkezian”? One of the best known of them was Hovannes Cherkezian, endearingly know as “cherkez”, a star futbolist/ captain of the Marash Vaspurakan of Aleppo. --- Where is Johannes to give us the full text of the Article in the (SA) Encyclopedia/Hanragitaran!

The Naked Truth and the Nude Beauty Տկլոր եւ Մերկ A very interesting article at Hetq; http://hetq.am/en/culture/body-and-landscape/ This is the “naked truth”/ Անկեղծ Մերկ եւ Ճշմարիտ Գեղեցիկը, the Nude Beauty; http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Arts/VenusMilo2.jpg And here is the Naked Misery/Տկլոր Խեղճ Տառապանք; http://www.topnews.in/files/Mahatma-Gandhi_1.jpg --- To see what Մերկ/Nude and Տկլոր/ Naked mean we will go to Language.

Cis boom bah!! Drum roll please !! Heh heh: Be careful. Before you allude that someone or their mother is Armenian, like Gregory Peck et al think twice lest you get a jail term. :jerry: How come no one gets jail time for alleging that hamid's mother was ermeni?? Remember this? http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18980

This is SAD very SAD, makes one to cry! You mean to tell me that we waste zillions of Drams to build a ridiculously useless dolphinarium in the heart of Yerevan, next to the hallowed grounds of the Pantheon no less, but we don‘t have funds for valuable projects of the kind?? Read below wher it is suggested that this project has not only historicalvalue but political as well, to show the world that the land was inhibited by Armenians 2 thousand years before we heard of asszies and furks. Also note that the said site is in the vicinity of what was once known as aghdam which was recently renamed AKNA. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=31394 ---- Please click on the picture gallery to see the artifacts. http://www.armenianow.com/features/25610/armenia_archeologists_tigranakert_excavation

Armenophile V furkophile. I don’t remember where I read that the furks were rubbing their hands together in anticipation that Ms. Pelosi, the Democrat armenophile Speaker would lose her seat to the furkophile Republican Boehner. It seems to have happened. What now? Where is Hagarag? AH!! Boghos not to forget that now you have a Lady Presidenta. Madam Rousseff-ian of Bulgarian ancestry. Where is Gamavor?

It is now AKNA in the region of Askeran. No more aghdam. Now, if we only could get out of the habit of using terms like nkr, nagorno or worse. http://travel.javakhk.net/travel_javakhk_maps/Armenia_Artsakh2.jpg Every time I hear the name aghdam the picture of Monte -Avo Melkonian floats in my head. I have always had an uneasy feeling about it. I am afraid to open a can of worms. Perhaps at another time. http://janfedayi.com/Monte/index.html

Old but always new. A revival of a very old thread. We must be one of the very few people who constantly ask this QUESTION. Is there a reason for it? Reminiscent of the passage of Ter Voghormia that was written a long time ago. WHY? Where we sing- “Tur ashkharhis khaghaghoutiun, azgis Hayots SER MIUTIUN-Ազգիս Հայոց ՍԷՐ ՄԻՈՒԹԻՒՆ”. As a rule one prays for something that is LACKING. How long have we been prying for “Love and Unity”? Yet, the more we progress the more we regress to the lack of Love and Unity. http://hetq.am/en/diaspora/armenian-3/ Commentary: Just Who Is an Armenian? [ 2010/11/01 | 11:59 ] Feature Stories diaspora The old refrain, who qualifies to be called an Armenian, came crashing through in real life terms just a few days ago. At a football match here in Hamburg, Germany, some Armenian guys from Armenia called some Armenian guys from Istanbul “Turks” because they were speaking Turkish, not Armenian. Similar cultural clashes have happened in the past; it’s not a new occurrence. Armenians from different regions had met up in Germany to play some “friendly” football matches. Things got out of hand and punches were thrown along with some choice invectives. A local Armenian yahoo forum in Germany has been besieged with comments; most accusatory in nature of one or another side. Each commentator believes he or she knows what the correct definition of an Armenian is. Let’s put the question on the table – who exactly is an Armenian? Are the 18,000 Armenians now in Los Angeles jails Armenian? What about the recently arrested Armenian mafia types who scammed millions in a U.S. Medicare system fraud? What do you call the Armenians responsible for the death of young men serving in the Artsakh Army? Can Armenians who rip off their fellow Armenians or those who plunder the resources of Armenia, be called Armenian? What about the thousands who leave Armenia and those who force them to leave? Naturally, the simple answer is that they are all Armenians. That’s to say, the way we approach the issue is incorrect. It appears that whether or not one feels a member of the Armenian nation is irrelevant. The litmus test is whether one speaks the language or not or, as many see it, whether one belongs to the Armenian Apostolic Church. These people don’t even consider Armenian Evangelicals or Catholics “real” Armenians. Aren’t some of these same Armenian-speaking, Armenian Apostolic Church members, in the short-sightedness, allowing for the gradual disappearance of the language in Armenia by permitting the establishment of foreign language schools? Are these Armenians actually “Turks” in disguise? Of course not; but they are Armenians of a different stripe. Why can’t we just accept the fact that Armenians are simply a people just like any other? Not better or worse; a mix of good and bad, with its share of faults and foibles. Why can’t we accept the Armenian reality that exists, even though sometimes it may leave a bitter taste in our mouths? We must realize that to change this reality we need to understand one another, to help one another, and not criticize or insult. The principle of “teaching and being taught” must be a key component of the equation. Defining a nation and its traits, of course, is different from an individual’s national belonging and his/her emotions. A nation has a unique make-up – history, language, culture, religion and, of course, the native homeland on which it lives, survives, creates and develops its culture, language and literature. Naturally, it would be ideal if the traits of an individual feeling a sense of belonging to a nation correspond to the general traits of that nation – ideal, yes, but not mandatory. It is enough that a person feels a part of the nation as a whole; for the individual to be considered a member of the national family. Rather than abusing and stereotyping others, we should respect their feelings. We need to help and show them the way, as it were, so that they too can fully display our national traits. Yervand Khosrovyan European Congress of Armenians October 26, 2010 ---- The Armenian version; http://hetq.am/am/diaspora/armenian-3/

I have been there, this is the vantage point to view Ani. Observe how deep and steep the gorge is. One has to be an expert mountain climber to scale it. Although we were strictly advised to not take pictures, we did, I have photos and video that I took regardless. Yes, we had to wait for an okay from Moscow, since then as now, the border is monitored by the Russian army. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Ani_-_bridge.jpg There are a few inconsistencies in the story, whether it is due to a lapse of memory or simply a lack of geographical knowledge. I had seen the following story otherwise. It seems it had already been posted here, where BTC questions its authenticity. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=4640&pid=36631&st=0entry36631 --- Although Steven Kamajian MD, shown by google seems to be a real person, a physician in the LA area. Aside and before I saw the question by Steve/BTC, I had already noticed the following inconsistencies. I don’t question Dr. Kamajian’s story, only his geographical and strategic confusion. He seems to be totally confused about his North, South, East and West. Hopefully he would also learn where Gumri and Gavar are. -- --- Note the highlights above. 1. What if that Russian officer did cross the tightly controlled, barb wired border on the Armenian side. How did he cross the even more tightly controlled, fenced perhaps even booby trapped land mined furkish(NATO) controlled side without creating an international incident? What kind of boat did they use? The border is impenetrable even today, after so many years except by these clowns who claim to have walked across it barefooted. http://news.am/eng/news/34300.html 2. This is the most suspect. The border between Gumri and Ani is not across the River Arax which is at least 100 km to the south, where the River Arax joins the Armenian border at the level of Yerevan. The river in question is the Akhurian (known as Arpa Chay by those others), which beside it flowing in a deep impenetrable gorge, is not a navigable river. What kind of boat did they use? See where Gumri, Yerevan, Arax and Akhurian are. Yes, we know that Akhurian does eventually pour into the Arax; http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Arasrivermap.jpg If one crosses the River Arax at the town Ararat, one ends up in Igdir, not Ani. 3. You add your observations. Even if I don’t doubt that Dr. Kamajian has actually been in Gumri, and surveyed Ani from that vantage point, the rest of the story seems to be a flight of imagination, or perhaps a dream. ---- The village next to Ani mentioned above is known as Ojakli by those others.

Սիրելի Եդօ, անկասԿած որ դու իմ դէմ չէիր խօսում: Իմ յղումի նպատակն էր խթանել քո եւ այլոց միտքը եւ լեզուն: Այո, տեսայ LOS ում Վիոլետը, մանաւանդ ներայ զրոյցը ներա նման այլանդակ զարտուղի Վահէ Աւետեան ի հետ: Սուրճի գաւաթը չի տեսայ: Արդեն յայտնիէ որ ես զաւեշտի սիրահար եմ: Մենք շատ զաւեշտալի նիւթեր ունենք: Ասուածէ որ “Ծիծաղը լաւագոյն դեղն է, Laughter is the best medicine”: Մենք կարող ենք , եւ պիտի ծաղրենք մեր բազում տոլմա, սարմա, պաստրմա փառք/ մշակոյթը, բայց որտե՞ղ քաշել այդ գիծը? Ինչ՞ու մեզմէ ոմանք, իբր արդարացում իրանց այլանդակ կենցաղը ոգեկոչում են մեր Սուրբերի Ոսկորները? ՆՆՉԵՑԷՔ ԴՈՒՔ ԱՆԴՈՐՐ, ՆԱՀԱՏԱԿ ԵՂԱԲՅՐՆԵՐ:

Sireli Edward, chi haskatsa, the oum es kochoum “parav oriord” , kam indz es kochoum “parav baron”? LOS @ inch e? Yethe menq toghenq or mer lousavor steghtsagortsner@ ayspes kochven, nman Parajanovi, yevayln. Mashtots@ cher amousnatsel. Ch@gitenq. Khorenatsin amousnatsel er? Isk inch veraberi mer kousakron kghernerin?? Sa sh-shouk che. Yes bardzradzayn lsel em mi nakhqin ejmiastsnakan vardapet/kahana -i bernov or HH Kathoghikos Vazken I @ miaserakan er, yev the inchou miayn ir sirats tghaner@ bardzr pashtoni arzhanatsan, nman ayzhmu Arajnord Khazhak Barsamian @. Tsekhot aknotsavor@ lman ashkharh@ tsekh e tesnum. "Ayrats srti kak/tsekh mkhitaranq"?

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18538 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MountArarat.jpg ՅՈՅՍ Ռափայել Պատկանեան Քամար Քաթիպա Թող փչէ քամին պաղ-պաղ երեսիս, Վերէն, ամպերէն սաստիկ ձիւն թող գայ. Որքան որ կուզե` թող փչէ Հիւսիս, Յուսով եմ` վաղ-ուշ գարունը պիտ գայ: Թուխպը թող պատէ երկինքը պայծառ, Թանձր մառախուղ երկիր թող փակե, Տարերք աշխարհիս խառնուին իրար, Յուսով եմ` վաղ-ուշ արև պիտ ծագէ: Թող գայ փորձութիւն, թող գա հալածանք, Խաւար թող դառնա անաղօտ լոյսը, Սարսափելի չեն հային տառապանք, Միայն... չի հատներ խղճուկի յոյսը: --- Daffodil-Նարկիզ http://www.freefoto.com/images/19/12/19_12_6---Daffodils_web.jpg --- Tulip-Վարդկակաչ http://explore-flowers.co.uk/post-images/tulips/wild-tulips.jpg --- And finally this Garoun by Komitas-Gohar Gasparian “Յուսով եմ` վաղ-ուշ գարուն պիտ ի գայ”;

TEKEYAN the HOMO? How low can we sink to interpret a dialogue between a Father and his “virtual son” as evidence of homosexuality? Only a pervert like Violet Grigorian would see it. BTW. Ironically. “teke” in another non-language means “male sheep”. The Armenian is “ԽՈՅ/khoy” be it sheep or goat. English -RAM. http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.asp?path=UNZ/UNZ564/u18729593.jpg ---- http://www.azg.am/AM/culture/2010102305 ---- I just saw it. Very disturbing. The article is by a Komitas Vardapet Hovnanian, obviously not the Komitas . The headline reads “ Don’t judge the world through your silicon eyes”. --- The intro opens- “Although we have heard many whispers about the sexual orientation of Vahan Tekeyan, even if there is no first hand “eyewitness” testimony to it. (I placed “eyewitness” in quotes, as Tekeyan had only one functioning eye. The other had been put out of commission by a knife attack by a turk). And now enter a Violet Gregorian , a somewhat well known poetess whose sexual orientation is amatter of debate. She reads hidden messages in many of Tekeyan’s literary works and his private communications with his soul mates. Her most “revelations”, she claims are hidden in his poem “It’s Raining My Son”. Yes, we know Vahan was not married and he did not have a son of his own, but his entire life was dedicated, beside literature to the welfare of orphans and displaced people. And. What if he was? How does that diminish his genius, an his tender fatherly love? One of his most tender. ԿԱՆՁՐԵՒԷ, ՏՂԱ՛Ս Վահան Թեքեան Կանձրևէ, տղա՛ս... Աշունը թաց է, Թաց աչքերուն պէս խեղճ խաբուած սիրոյն...: Պատուհանն ու դուռը գնա ու գոցեէ Եվ դէմըս եկուր նստիլ վեհագոյն Լռութեան մը մէջ...: Կանձրևէ տղա՛ս...: Կանձրևէ՞ երբեմն հոգիիդ մէջն ալ, Կմըսի՞ սիրտըդ, և կդողդըղա՞ս` Խորհելով պայծառ արևին անցեալ, Դռան մը ետեւ գո՜ց ճակատագրին...: Բայց կուլաս, տըղա'ս... Մութին մեջ հանկարծ Ծանր արցունքներ աչքերդ կգլորին...: Լա՛ց անմեղութեան արցունքը անդարձ, Լա՛ց չգիտնալով, խեղճ, անգէ՛տ տղաս, Խե՜ղճ որսը կեանքին, ա՜հ, լա՛ց, որ մեծնաս...: It has been rendered to music that I have known a long time ago. Where does Violet see hints of homosexuality? Kandzreveh Tghas, Ashun@ Tats E. It’s raining my son The Autumn is Wet. He may have been talking about his ONE EYE. Note the references to the “eye”. --- My translation; ---- “It’s raining my son, the autumn is wet Just like the wet eyes of a betrayed love. Go, shut the windows and door And sit across me in exalted silence. It does rain my son, at times in your soul Your heart will shiver, your body tremble, Thinking of the past, warm rays of the sun Behind the closed door of fate. And you cry my son, in the sudden dark Heavy beads of tears your eyes do flood. Weep the long gone tears of innocence You don’t know weeping, my unknowing son Poor prey of life. A~h!. Cry!!! Cry, so you grow! --- Յովաննէս ու՞ր ես: Դու լսել էի՞ր այդ շշուկները:

The answer my friend is all in the “yan” The answer is all in the “ian”. The answer is “Blowing in the wind”. How many can tell the ethnicity of a Smith, a Jones , a Brown, a Madoff, Medvedev or a Spitzer Abramov? What if the names of those perpetrators were Ahmad Hasan-ian? Or Murad Arabian?

Այո Յովհաննէս, ես վստահ էի որ դու եւ քո ընկեր Հրաչեա- ն պիտի հասնէիք ինձ օգնել: Shall we also consider the French word "cuvette"= bowl, basin Bowl=Գաւաթ, սկահակ , թաս, բաժակ, ծաղկաման Basin=Աւազան, Bowl; http://www.designboom.com/contest/files/image_1_people_bowl.jpg Basin; http://www.glassbuy.com.cn/en/data/product/200605/12/1147416795.jpg

You may have asked an easier question As to the origin of the word “gawwad/ قواد /կաւատ, pimp, բոզաւագ. The more literary Armenian word for “cup” is բաժակ/bazhak** As to the Armenian “gawath/գաւաթ” it all points to the Greek. Kuvella/Kubello? It is difficult, it takes a stretch of imagination to see where the English “cup” and the Armenian “գաւաթ/gawath“, and the furkish “kup/jar” are related? Greek; Also consider the word “cupola” i.e dome, a converted cup? http://www.architects.com.pk/blogs/architecturestyles/uploaded_images/dome_of_the_rock_inside-732032.jpg **Բաժակ. Some people call it “kadeh”. At one time, in Aleppo someone introduced himself as Բաժակեան***/Bazhakian, and when he came to America he had to revert back to his surname in his legal papers- Kadehjian. *** Bazhak/ Բաժակ is a whole other subject. No, no. This is not another բաժակաճառ/toast . Սեղաններն արատ, …Դիմացն Արարատ... լցնենք ընկերներ բաժակները լի…....մեզ անուշ լինի:

ՎԱՆԱՅ ԼԻՃ/ ԾՈՎ Lake Van In the past the Lake Van Վանայ Լիճ has been known as Tospa, Rshtouniants, Bznouniats etc. In Akkatian inscription it is recorded as Nayiri Yerkirneri Tsov. At times it has understandably been simply known as the Lake of Aghtamar. Below we read that Aghtamar is the second largest Island. Next to which? Note that Aghtamar is one of the four islands in Lake Van. Beside Lim, Ktuts and Arter. Which is the larger? I wish I could find a map showing those other islands. Lim/Լիմ, Ktuts/Կտուց and Arter/Առտեր.** Beside the Famous Aghtamar Island there are three others… Lim Island.-Main church St. Gevorg Ktouts ,-has been a major center of Armenian literature and learning. At low water levels the Island becomes a peninsula hence its name to mean bird‘s “beak”. Arter-Main church Holy Virgin /Sb. Astvatsatsin (ruined) Why are these from furkish sites? Did you know that there is a Lake Van in New Mexico, USA? I didn’t. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&expIds=17259,18167,24472,25982,26095,26562,26637,26719,26992,27095,27147,27156&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=lake+van+new+mexico+map&cp=15&rlz=1R2RNTN_enUS376&wrapid=tljp1287932166898024&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Lake+Van,+Dexter,+NM&gl=us&ei=GknETMbYEIK0lQfA0ZwD&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBkQ8gEwAA http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&expIds=17259,18167,24472,25982,26095,26562,26637,26719,26992,27095,27147,27156&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=nm+map&cp=5&rlz=1W1RNTN_en&wrapid=tljp128793295197208&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=New+Mexico&gl=us&ei=IUzETOziNoSq8Abh3MTXBg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBwQ8gEwAA ** This is a preamble to Hovananes Vanandentsi, who was educated at the Seminary at the Island Ktuts., best known for his Hayastan Erkir Drakhtavayr. *** Why was that Island named so? Is it because it looked like the beak of a bird/ կտուց http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/bird-beak-enlarged.jpg From the Armatakan;Կտուց= Թռչունի քիթ http://hy.worldpoi.info/poi/642/ http://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D5%8A%D5%A1%D5%BF%D5%AF%D5%A5%D6%80:Van_golu.jpg

Googling Հօրս Հորս will show several including by Shiraz and more many of which I don’t know. Of course that one by Kaputikian -- Below my favorite by Daniel Varouzhan- Hayr Orhneh -Bless Me Father. Who will translate it? ՀԱՅՐ, ՕՐՀՆԷ՜ Դանիէլ Վարուժան Հայր իմ, օրհնէ՜. ժամը հասաւ. Պիտ՝ երթամ. Նոր կեա՛նք մ`ինծի կը սպասէ Պատմութիւնն ես թողուցի. նոր արիւն Երակիս մէջ կը վազէ։ Յառա՜ջ,յառա՜ջ. - գըլուխս ետ չե՛մ դարձըներ. Երկընքէս վա՛ր թող իյնան Անվիշտ կեանքիս ամէն աստղեր.հոգըս չէ՛. Անցեալս իջնա թող դամբան։ Օհ, ինծի՛ ին՞չ թէ կը փետեմ վարդին թերթ, Եվ փուշին կեանք կու տամ միշտ, Թէ գրկաբաց յորձանքին մէ՛ջ կը նետուիմ. Խինդս է՝ ձանձրոյթ, սէրս է՝ վիշտ։ Ամէն խայտանք ջախջախեցին սըրտիս մէջ. Չեմ վախենար սև ծըծելէ. Վանք մըտնող կոյս մեմ՝ որ խըզուած իր վարսեր՝ Անխիղճ անհոգ, կը դիտէ՜… Հա՜յր, ես կերթամ այն ճամբայէն՝ որ ճերմակ Մազերուդ զիզ կտանին, Վաստակաբեկ ոսկըրներուդ, ծեր սըրտիդ Եւ սէրերուդ կենդանի. Բաւական է.- աշխատեցար, կըրեցիր, Ամեն նետի հարուածի Վահան եղար ինծի համար. հոգիդ է՝ Որ հոգւոյս մէջ կը յածի։ Իմ արիւնս է գողացած քու քըրտինքեդ. Յոգնութեանդ ծիլն եմ տըխուր։ Հոգիտ, Կաղնի՜, երբ կուրծք կուտար մըրըրկին՝ Ես շուքին տակ, հանգիստ, լուռ Կը մեծանայի :-Հարկ է հիմա ա՛լ հանգչիս Եվ ես քեզի յաջորդեմ… Խոնջե՜նք, խոնջե՜նք. կուզեմ կըռուիլ, աշխատիլ, Ելլել կեանքին, կեանքին դէմ… Հայր իմ, օրհնէ՜. դողդոջ ձեռքերդ գըլխուս դիր. Թող մատերէդ կաթի վար Աղօթքդ՝ եկած հոգւոյդ պայծառ խորանԷն։ Վերջին ժամն է. օրհնէ՜, հայր : ---- Ignore this part. Phew!! It took me hours to change the orthography to Daniel’s original and correct several typo’s. Even then, I may have missed some.

PLACIDO in YEREVAN? http://news.am/eng/news/35553.html Will Placido sing Celeste Aida? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T2YOepsOYY&feature=related Or, will he sing Hayastan Yerkir Drakhtavayr, Հայաստան Երկիր Դրախտավայր Words by Hovannes Vanandetsi, Music by Komitas. Actually the Music is by Komitas. I will not argue. Maybe someone will enlighten us. Here we see an argument if Hayastan Yerkir Drakhtavayr should become the National Anthem. And see what Vanetsi said here; #49 http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=12501&st=40 Let’ see how many Yerenaites will understand the words?? --- ** The original title of the poem was AR HAYASTAN which in time became known by the first line.