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Thank you Yervant please. I am glad you chose to post this under the Subject Topic- International. This may give us a chance to participate. The “lobby“is in a panicky disarray like a turkey with ruffled feathers http://www.panorama.am/en/politics/2011/09/26/cnn-turk/

Yeah right! Like "cher" as in the Armenian sher. Does she know how to say "parev"? And that Andre gagasi? Does he know how to say "barev"? When did she or he say thy are Armenian? Menq mezi hars enq linoum ortegh voch hars ouninq voch pesa. See Anush Opera- When Anush loses her mind she sings "Es inch tesak harsaniq e, voch hars ounenq voch pesa"

DRONES The latest BUZZ Armenian made drones. No MosJan, this is not about the background Drone Duduk. We will come to that. http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/090c11d0Svf9U/350x.jpg http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/090c11d0Svf9U/350x.jpg http://news.am/eng/news/74872.html Just so we see the Armenian terms; Առաջին անգամ ցուցադրվել են հայկական անօդաչու ինքնաթիռները http://www.news.az/photos/page-photo/16042.jpg http://www.news.az/photos/page-photo/16042.jpg And more pictures; http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=pfwc&cp=24&gs_id=20&xhr=t&q=armenian+drones+pictures

Attaboy Jirair! This is hilariously delicious. We will crown you as the King of Satire. We are sorely in need of new satirists. We have not had a good երգիծագիր -satirist ergitsagir since Baronian, Otian and Ler Kamsar. The only fine point Jirair omitted is that those clowns were in fact sipping “gavour kahveh”, Հայկական Սուրճ-Armenian Coffee . http://www.myarmeniangifts.com/catalog/Chico%20005.JPG http://www.myarmeniangifts.com/catalog/Chico%20005.JPG

Physician heal thyself? Is HH Aram I speaking from knowledge or ignorance? Saying that corruption is limited to Yerevan? Let us see the corruption in Antelias. Let us see how Antelias is free of political and factional corruption. You live in a country where bribery and coruption is an "accepted" way of of life. How can He forget that it is an accepted culture of the ME, that Armenia is part of, peppered with soviet Russian. You should be the last person to speak about "corrupuion". Corruption in the ME,in particular in Lebanon is a modus vivendi, a way of life. The main reason I got out of that hell-hole, when my rights as a citizen were daily violated based on the color of my MONEY. Yes, please Aram I do tell us about corruption. He may be a good politician, but a poor theolgian as a Christian. He seems to not know these passages from the Christian Handbook aka the NT. To set the record straight. I don't subscribe to neither Ejmiatsin or Antelias. I am just an outsider, an obsever to see the hypocrisy of one or the other so called "Christians". I didn’t know that that cliché “Physician heal thyself” was from the Bible.

Yes, two “birds” with one stone. Like this ugly bird - turkey vulture whose main mission in life is to clean up the environment, garbage collector, feeding on dead and rotting carcasses killed by other beasts.. One wonders about their sense of smell. In the Armenian such beasts like hyenas and vultures are known as գիշատից/gishatits. From the root word of ԳԷՇ/gesh. We will see what that means in another post. http://oklahomabirdsandbutterflies.com/uploads/Image/Birds/Turkey_Vulture.jpg http://oklahomabirdsandbutterflies.com/uploads/Image/Birds/Turkey_Vulture.jpg Feeding frenzy; http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/4030/PreviewComp/SuperStock_4030-1253.jpg

Thank you Yervant for the comic relief. I had seen that comedy and had a mind to post it, yet I could not decide where. Comedistan or the Liars' Club. All the same. It is hilarious how all the fingers are pointed at telaviv, omitting the fact that the latter is the main middleman supplying baku with advanced hardware in exchane for oil money. Once again- ՇՈՒՆԸ ՇԱՆԻՑ ԵԿՈՒՍՆ, ԷԼ ՄԻ ՏՆԻՑ If telaviv is spying on Tehran why would they do it from Armenia when they have unfarted I mean unfettered access and carte blanche in boklu-baijan?** ** http://johnbrandt.typepad.com/.a/6a010535c28758970b0112797a76b028a4-800wi

Dear MosJan, please look here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18730&pid=284420&st=80entry284420

Our intrepid translators should be more careful with their words. In the Armenian “public house” is known as հանրատուն/հասարակաց տուն/բոզանոց/hanratoun. Which is a euphemism for, to put it mildly a “house of ill repute/brothel”. You don’t believe me? Look up your favorite Engl-Arm dictionary. ---- From here- http://www.panorama.am/en/economy/2011/09/16/martakaert-moscow/

5900 year old skirt in Areni. With the above “5000 year old leather shoe” we are slowly but surely creating a whole complete wardrobe. We began from the bottom up, will it next be a shirt/jacket/chukha and eventually a hat? Was that cave in Areni a clothing store of sorts, a haberdashery? ----- http://news.am/pic/news/73915.jpg http://news.am/pic/news/73915.jpg Hula-grass/straw skirt? Is that where the Hawaiians learned the art? http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.asp?path=ARP/ARP114/Hula.jpg http://news.am/eng/news/73915.html ----

In another news item we see this; http://news.am/eng/news/74189.html Where it is said- My initial instinct was, regardless of who the manufacturer is it came via telaviv. We are so blinded with the telaviv-ankara axis that we don’t see what is going on between telaviv and baku. We all think that all this love affair is aimed at the tiny Armenia, it is, yet see the broader picture. Baku is being armed to the teeth not so much against Armenia but against Iran. Those cowards in telaviv don’t have the courage to attack Tehran so they are grooming baku to attack what is known as Iranian azsserboobjan in northwestern Iran as a prelude to an all out war against Iran. What they forget that Iran is not like Iraq, not a flat desert, that it has millions of mountains and valleys, and that during her 10 thousand year history, despite today’s clownish mullahs no power has ever totally conquered it. Read that so called bible and see how those clowns in telaviv have constantly insulted their neighbors and rattled their rusty kosher sabre. Why is not israel an empire all the way from telaviv to Tehran and aqaba to ankara? Baku is playing with fire just as their so called country is named for “fire/atur/atesh”. How long will it take for Tehran to wipe that so called Iranian azsserboobjan right off the map? And when that happens which NATO, which ankara will participate?

Yes MosJan let’s go back to the original format. After all the initiator of both threads is Aratta and he has the final say. I’m sorry Aratta, I should have kept my promise to not participate under this category of the Big G. Although my intention was to highlight and help the average reader to see the hard work that you had done for the past 4 years since 2007. Besides, see how many times the word “lobby” is used in both threads. Once again, I should keep my nose out of this category. Just as above by MosJan I am very skeptical that all this broohaha and dogfight will do us any good, like every time wqhen we come so close we get a last minute reversal, it will not be before too long when the “damaged” fence between telviv and ankara will be mended as neither of them know the meaning of decency, and once again we will watch the fiasco from a distance. Iwill keep my promise and keep out of this category.

Dear Aratta, when you write in the latino-russo-turko-azeri-slavo "armenian" fonts? Please write in the Mesropian Ayb Ben Gim so we can understand you better.

Why are we still talking about boxing? That most primitive and savage so called “art/sport“? where the contestants try to punch their opponents into a pulp, even to death . Do Armenians have another art? How about art, culture, literature, music, and poetry? Dowe have any other ex-s-port? I have stopped watching such ever since when Cassius Clay aka Muhammed Ali converted it to a “ballet” of sorts. Why are Armenians so obsessed with such so called savage physical “sports”? Who are we trying to out-box”and kill? mehmet or chico? Which of them are more civilized?

Dear Mos see #337 here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=15502&hl=lobby&st=320 Would it be a good idea to merge these threads so one can see the entire history of the dog fight. I broke my own promise to not enter this category, I won’t again. Once again- let our great Prophet Raffi speak. ՇՈՒՆԸ ՇԱՆԻՑ, ԵՐԿՈՒՍՆ ԷԼ ՄԻ ՏՆԻՑ DOG EAT DOG http://www.streetflame.com/images/12x12_wolf.jpg http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy148/crazywolf_2009/Wolf_Fight_base_2_by_Destinys_Heart.png

Yes, that phrase to mean "to your honor" is "sherefineh" in their non-language, which is from the Arabic "sheref/sheriff", honorific like this. In fact in the original Arabic it is "shareef". http://www.gunsofshadowvalley.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/sheriff-promo.jpg http://www.gunsofshadowvalley.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/sheriff-promo.jpg

ԳԱՒԱԶԱՆ Gawazan. Of all the above vestments this is the most interesting We will see why I spell it with letters Ւ not Վ and W not V. Unlike the Latin translit below գաՒազան would be “gaWazan”. From the Armatakan, It goes on saying that it is from the Pahlavi to mean Եզ քշելու գործիք… an instrument used to drive cattle. There is more but we will stop here. At times some have suggested that it rhymes and derives from the equally Persian origin word “խարազան/ kharazan” to mean whip/մտրակ. All the same as kharazan” is also defined as Forty whip-lashes to me. Քառսուն մտրակի հարուած ինծի http://ecdn3.hark.com/images/000/002/795/2795/original.jpg Why do all replicas of a Bishop’s Staff feature snakes, dragons and other beasts? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/Crozier_lion_snake_Louvre_OA7287.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Crozier_lion_snake_Louvre_OA7287.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/Crozier_lion_snake_Louvre_OA7287.jpg From above. In Jerusalem the Patriarch’s “bodyguard” , the leader of parades is known as “ղավաս/qawas/kavas”, the Staff Bearer who leads the parade pounding his “gavazan” to the beat of music.. Is that what “գաւազանկիր/gavazanakir” means? The protector of the Patriarch? “Շունը յիշէ, փայտը քաշէ”? I can’t find any good pictures of a Patriarchal Parade in Jerusalem. Observe the picture below and see what a “kawas” is. The ones in lower right corner, who seem to be of ottoman soldier. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:James_Tissot_-_Pape_%C3%A0_Jerusalem.JPG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:James_Tissot_-_Pape_%C3%A0_Jerusalem.JPG Do you think the word “qawas/ kavas “ is of Arabo -ottoman origin? Think again. Above I cautioned us that the following may not be to your liking. Gawaz/Gavaz in Persian= گواز- wand with which to drive cattle. It may be mere coincidence or serendipity that I have been studying the origin of the word “gavazan/ gavas/kawas. You may not like this.. Search and see pictures of Jesus holding the Shepherds’ staff/stick. See what and who a Kawas/Գաւազանկիր/Gavazanakir is.** http://wn.com/Armenian_Easter_Jerusalem_2008 Music man. Observe the leader with the big stick **Note that they don a red fez, a leftover from ottoman times when the bodyguard would be of the Muslim faith, just as the keys to the Holy Sepulcher were entrusted to a Muslim Palestinian family that still prevails.

Yes, Dear Ani. I asked this before. Still I have no idea about the real meaning of the word as used in Yerevan, and what they think it means. I have said above that in Yerevan it may be a reversal of the furko-arabo-persian word “minnet” that originally meant “gratitude” as opposed to the Yerevan version of “ingratitude”. When and how did this happen? And when did the Yerevanites learn this word? And what they thought, still do it meant?

Yes!! kakorno kakabokh and again

I have no idea how Nicholos/Նիկողոս/Nikolaos/Նիկողայոս came to become an Armenian name. When did Armenians begin to call their sons “nigoghos/nikoghos”? I do remember at one time when I met three scientists from Armenia, one said his name was Tigran, the other -Artash and the third - Nikolai . We all laughed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas We also know that the furks claim that St. Nicholas was a furkish bishop born in Konya/Iconia in what is now known as furkey. -- A Joke. What do you call Santa Claus that has walked through the desert? “sandy claws“?

Some people don't listen or they have an otic and ocular handicap. How many times have we said that the name of that Independant Armenian State is not nagorno-kakorno-kara-kaka %&^$ poopoo!!! Yet, our own media uses that disgusting name a million times in one post and shyly suggests "ARTSAKH. We should totsally boycott, not read or respond to any srticles and news, be they by our own, third parties or even the so called Emabassy of NKR in Washington until and unless they CLEAN UP THEIR LANGUAGE. First off that damn furko-russky name is not an "authoritarian" but "autonomous". Look above and see how many times our friend used that blasted furko-russky name except in the headline and way at the bottom as Artsakh. WHERE IS THE LANGUAGE POLICE? I have said this before. You will not see mention of Artsakh in the Hanragiatarn unless you know that it is listed under ԼՂԻՄ/LGHIM, Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի Ինքնավար Մարզ/Lernayin gharabaghi Inqnavar marz. Of course, after so many years we are still assuming that mos-cow and bokhu are the capitals of Armenia. Look at this news item and read the emblem; http://asbarez.com/97964/editorial-artsakh%e2%80%99s-independence/ http://asbarez.com/App/Asbarez/eng/2011/09/0902karabakhemblem-copy.jpg http://asbarez.com/App/Asbarez/eng/2011/09/0902karabakhemblem-copy.jpg http://tert.am/en/news/2011/09/07/sergo/

Ayo gitem. Du gites or inchu ayd show- er@ aydpes en kochvoum? Qanimi tasnyak tariner araj ayd show-er@ vjarvoum eyin ojar shinogh @nkeroutiunneri dramov TIDE yev aylq. http://i.bnet.com/blogs/tide-laundry-detergent-bnet-april-2011.jpg Yes I know. I or any of my family members have never will ever watch Soap Operas. To me it is just a dirt bag of familial dirt of infidelity etc. And the watchers of such dirt to say- “Look at those miserable trashy people. I am glad I am not like that”. That those are the “faex populi/mankind’s sh*t bag”

Will someone please tell us the Armenian term for "soap opera"? Is it "Օճառ Անուշ/ojar anush"? Or is it "trash@d anush lini"?Or did they mean "Anush@d trash lini"?** Do you mean that the Anush Opera is "trash"? Did they mean "May your trash/garbage taste and smell sweet"? OK. If they can play with furko-persian words so can we play with English words. http://www.armenianow.com/features/28380/armenia_gyumri_barber_shave ** You know what "trash" means in English. I put it out every Monday for the "trash collector"

Thank you Ani. I had seen that story at the site. Yet I still don’t know what it all means in Yerevan. And how it was reversed from meaning “gratitude” to “ingratitude” and RUDENESS. A few days ago I wrote a somewhat lengthy response but I decided to not air. Ani, please tell us the official definition of "մուննաթ/munnath" in Yerevan. I cannot find it in any dictionary. BTW. Is this a picture of the “harut” the Dracula or is it that taxi driver? http://www.ejournal.am/files/news/2011/09/090609100214.jpg ---- --- Look above when me and Johannes explained the origin of “minnet” from the Arabic to mean “երախտիք/gratitude”.** However somehow in Yerevan the meaning has been reversed to mean “ապէրախտանք/ingratitude”, complaint. One wonders where they learned that word to mean so. Did Sayat Nova or Abovian use it in that sense? To me, as I see , it is just plain old RUDENESS. See how in the above quotes, the taxi driver, instead of apologizing blames everything and everything for being late. I am sure he may have also used some “choice words”. Just as the waitress, instead of apologizing for the mistake she scolds the customer for complaining. «լավ մուննաթ մի եկեք, հիմա կփոխեմ» *** Was it that she did not like the amount of tip/gratuity ? How old was that waitress? Was she a leftover from the "Stone/Soviet age"? I have seen such rude and ugly scenes in Yerevan. At the time when the restaurant servers grumpy old men leftover from Soviet times, they would throw back the gratuity if they did not like the amount, or fight in plain view among themselves as how to divide it. ԿՈՊԻՏ/RUDENESS!!! and ԱՊԵՐԱԽՏԱՆՔ/INGRATITUDE!! Here in the "plastic" west, the server will thank you regardless of the size of the gratuity, and perhaps go into the kitchen and recite a few "choice words". ** Search and see-“Minnet-Baby Girl Name.-Meaning of Minnet: gratitude” Even though the poster above says it of Bashkiri origin, I must insist that it is Arabic. ***Btw. It is not լաՎ it is լաՒ

Very well said Yervant. That is exactly what I expected to hear when I said “out of context” and “twist”. Sadly, some of us will take the above by milliyet as the “gospel truth” and become agitated. OK! Let us find another word. The G word has been so cheapened and genericized as when a escapee from a mental institute kills a few bystanders. There is another word YEGHERN that we used even before the G word was coined. The original meaning of YEGHRN is Bloody MURDER!!! Just as Dame Agatha put it "MURDER MOST FOUL".** Let us not be misled,led by our BIG ARMENIAN NOSES by those furkish "historian/schmistorians" who learned their skills…guess from whom? Speaking of being led by the nose, it is reminiscent of the time when one of our “warriors” castigated MJ for having said the Artsakh was not part of Armenia. MJ (where is he?) was a master semanticist. What he meant was, surveying ancient and relatively modern maps Artsakh , even if majority Armenian population was in fact a separate Principality/Melikdom, hundres of years before anyone had heard of furkistan or assserbokhjan. And now if we were to believe them they would say that Syuinik,Nakhjavan,Iriwan and Zangezur were asseri lands since adam and avrad.*** Once again. Please! Let us not get by our big Armenian noses and get buried in semantics of furkish delight of word games. Iam not playing. Btw. When did they even learn how to speak? Where is Ali who told us that there in fact is a furkish language beside the 99.9% Perso-Arabic.? They use the word "katl(iam)" to mean "murder" which is Arabic. ** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_Most_Foul ***In their non-language “adam” means man and “avrad” means woman.