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Who said “herisa” is an Armenian word/ It is Lebano-Arabic to mean “protectress” . Simply because the Armenian “keshkek” season coincided with the Lebanese feast of the Madonna/Mother of God/Astuatsatstin/Աստուածածին.. In the year 2012 Sept. 8 will br the feast of the Holy Mother of God /Սուրբ Աստուածածին. When Herisa is ceremoniously celebrated. http://www.azad-hye.net/photos/photoalbumimgs/tenth-anniversary-2008-04.jpg http://www.azad-hye.net/photos/photoalbumimgs/tenth-anniversary-2008-04.jpg “hares” means protector/guardian and “harissah/Madonna” is the feminine counterpart i.e “protectress“. http://www.habeeb.com/images/lebanon.jounieh.09.harissa.jpg Just like the Rio de-Janeiro/January River; http://globalgamejam.org/sites/default/files/locationImages/rio-de-janeiro.jpg?1286287914 Danm and double damn. Will someone tell that Sedrak to SHUT THE HELL UP, STOP TALKING ABOUT LANGUAGE AND ETYMOLGY WHICH APPARENTLY HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT?. He is making a "fool and hummus" of himself just like Shahan. Just because those clowns in stanbol wrote the furkish word as Տօլմա which in Yerevan was transliterated as “TOLMA” just like when they wrote Բարոնեան as ՊԱՐՈՆԵԱՆ which in Yerevan became Paronyan. “Dolma/Դօլմա”, not Տօլմա which in Yerevan was transliterated to Tolma. See how Shahan spells his surname “araraDian” as if it were “արարաԴեան” All we need now is another clown like Shahan/Sedrak to lecture us about the Armenian Language. For the umpteenth time. Will that Sedrak Mamulian please stop shooting from the hip. Making an ass of himself and stick to his pots and pans! . What will he say next ? That Khorwats was invented in Khor-Virap/ khor-viravorvatvatss where St. Grigor L's rump was roasted in the pit, was khowats, broiled BBQ-d and grilled? How about “khash” ? That it was invented by “khashnarats/խաշնարած/cattle drivers”? At times I have flashbacks like he is a born-again alter ego of Shahan who does not know between D-as in AraraDian and T in AraraTian . D/Դ is not T/ Տ , neither is T /Տ- D/Դ.Like the furkish “dolma/դոլմա” is not “տոլմա/tolma” . Here is where he belongs playing with his pots and pans; This is not “dolma” it is “sarma” patuk terev/ rolled; http://www.imegaservice.com/modules/armenia/images/1238856464.jpg This is, Lits/stuffed/filled; http://ianyanmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/img_0438.jpg http://ianyanmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/img_0438.jpg Here I wrote this, and I will repeat http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=37780&pid=286932&st=0entry286932 http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=13349&st=0&p=162266&hl=keshkek&fromsearch=1entry162266 http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=33356&st=0&p=280059&hl=toli&fromsearch=1entry280059

==== The above was wtitten 5 years ago. Let's see the pictures of today. ==== http://www.armenianow.com/multimedia/feature_photo/33942/domik_life_in_gyumri I had never sen that video of Spitak before. http://news.am/eng/news/84639.html

Another Lavash Lady ՏԻԿԻՆ ԼԱՒԱՇ Below we read that she is quite a talker and a joker. Watch the video and tell us which moves faster, her hands or her mouth? Maybe she should change her name to Manoush Lavashian http://hetq.am/eng/articles/7624/manoush-the-village-lavash-maker-gets-london-film-offer.html ====

Now that some front runners of the race to the White House have relented, newt the hoot has gained another notch on the chart. At one time most all US Presidents were of one or another Christian Protestant denomination. Until the Mormon George Romney, the then governor of Michigan joined the race , until it was revealed that by the US constitution he was disqualified since he was born in Mexico, outside the US of Mormon missionaries. Since then the religio-denominational barriers have come down since JFK the Catholic was elected. We were a breath away, literally when the Orthodox Jew Joe Lieberman ran as the veep of Al Gore to become next in line as Commander in Chief of telavaiv I mean Washington. Fast forward.. Barak Husein Obama born of a muslim father, raised as a Christian by his grandmother … Who’s next? Mormon morons?** Hooray! Yipee! Polygamism can once again become legal!!! BTW. The twice divorced, thrice married Newt is a serial polygamist. A moral ethical pervert a likely model for our children? Why was he twice divorced? Were not the first two .... enough… for his....… again? --- And now this neo-Catholic a one time loyal student and admirer of gagafurk, the “young furk”*** Would you buy a used car from this flip-flop artist? Watch out! He may legislate the the United States of America be renamed the united states of ankarica!! Has he read Erwand Otian's Punjuni? ** ***One wonders who his model-hero is, now that the neo-islamist- erbokhanists are breaking the “clay legs” of gagafurk. Is it like the Emperor Has No Clothes http://mychinaconnection.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/emperor-copy.jpg or is it Idols with Clay Feet? We will see what that means and where it comes fom.

ԶՈՔԱՆՉ Mother in law. Or is it "out of law"? I may have chosen to post this under a variety of topics, like Our Ugly Side etc. But I chose to air this under the CULTURE category, since it speaks about the CULTURE of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. See where Extra aired the following question looking for endearing terms for in-laws; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=37723 --- Do we have psychologists, sociologists or anthropologists here? Are seeing these stories from the side of the “victims”, not knowing the side of the alleged perpetrated? Have our ex-Yerevanite friends seen this phenomenon? Some call her “zonkach” just as some call Kamurj -Karmuj and akanj-ankaj. When did this most revered institution -Zokanch become such a monster? When did the Mother in Law become such a witch? What is happening to the culture of sanctity of the Armenian Family ? Shall we rename our Զոքանչ/Zokanch Վհուկ/Vhook? http://images.wikia.com/villains/images/8/8f/Wicked_witch.jpg http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=15863&st=0&p=196678&hl=zokanch&fromsearch=1entry196678 http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=37723&pid=286768&st=0entry286768 === First we saw this; And now we see this. Even more bizarre;

It does not sound Armenian, seems to be Russian. I have no idea of its meaning. See; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=493&st=1640&p=106976&hl=magarich&fromsearch=1entry106976 Maybe Ed and friends can tell us. Seems like it has to do with "bribe/tip/gratuity/favor"??? Like these "mint favors" at the checkout of restaurants to sweeten the taste of oinions and garlic? http://images.weddingaccessories.net/catalog/1006-858-pillow-mint-candy.jpg

BELLS, BELLS, BELLS and more BELLS http://www.advantour.com/img/armenia/sardarapat2.jpg http://www.advantour.com/img/armenia/sardarapat2.jpg Bells of birth/Silver Bells/Jingle Bells, wedding bells and funerary bells/knells Below we will see Edgar Allan Poe’s THE BELLS where he begins with bells of birth and ends with bells of death. Just as Ruben Sevak begins with “good bells of joy/Բարի Զանգակներ” and ends with “death bells” of the Adana Massacres. We also know about the Warning and Victory Bells of Sardarapat. How can we forget Paruyr’s “Immutable Belltower/ Անլռելի Զանգակատուն”. -- Ռուբեն Սևակ Զանգակնե՜ր, զանգակնե՜ր… Զանգակնե՜ր, բարի՜, բարի՜ զանգակներ, Ի՞նչ բան կասեցուց ձեր գուժկան լեզուն, Խոսք ելլել կ'ուզե արյունը վազուն… Կը լռե՜ք, բարի՜, բարի՜ զանգակներ։ Արդյո՞ք, ձեր միսթիք հագագն արույրե, Ուր կեղև՜ պատեց աղոթքի փոշին, Եվ ուր կ'երազե՜ր խունկի գոլորշին, Հեղակարծ ցավեն՝ անզո՜ր կը լռե՞։ Ո՛չ։ Ձեր դարավոր հոգին պղնձի- - Որ շա՜տ, շա՜տ հաճախ տեսեր է Բարին, Հաղթված Չարեն- այժմ իր բարբառին Ու իր Աստծույն վրա կը կասկածի… Ա՜խ, որովհետև տեսաք ձեր բարձրեն, Հավատավորներ հազարով, բյուրով, Ինկած հեթանոս տապարով, բիրով- Ձեր ոտքերուն տակ, երկյուղածորեն… Ու ձեր գմբեթեն դիտեցիք անձայն, Թե ինչպես խնկոտ տաճարներու մեջ՝ Որբ, կին, ծերունի, բոցերով անշեջ, Իրենց Աստծույն գահին զոհվեցան։ Բայց… գիտեք նաև, թե մեր դարավոր Դիակներու բուրգը ամպերեն անցավ, Ու մեր արյունի ժահրեն նեխեցավ Սրբություններու ծույլ գունտն երկնավոր… Արդ՝ ո՞ւր եք, չքնաղ խոստումներ Խաչին, Եղբայրության զուր բարբառներ, ո՞ւր եք, Կրակ կը փսխե հողն ամենուրեք, Գետերն արյունով, դիակո՜վ կ'ուռչին… Ու կիյնա այն, որ կը ծնկե ահով, Զի թուրն ավելի արդար է Խաչեն, Զի կյանքն անոնց է միայն, որ քաջ են, Անոնց, որ կ'ապրին ուրիշի մահով… Որովհետև դեռ հեռու է օրն այն, Երբ գայլն ու գառնուկ սիրով արածին… Թե ապրիլ կ'ուզե գառը նորածին ՝ Պետք է իր ակռան սրե լռելյայն… Լուռ եք, զանգակնե՜ր, Աստված է մեռեր։ Գույժ տվեք վաղվան, զի հասկը մեռավ. Գույժ տվեք հայուն, զի ազգը մեռավ։ Զանգակնե՜ր, ծերո՜ւկ, բարի՜ զանգակներ… Ինչպե՜ս կ'ուզեի ես ձեր պարանին Կախվիլ ու ցնցել երկաթ բազուկով. Անոնք, որ ինկան բյուրով, քովե քով, Ձեր ղողանջին հետ՝ լալու պետք ունին… Հոգիիս հազար խուլ զանգակներով Գոռացեք զանգեր ու կատաղորեն Գահավիժեցեք ձեր երկաթ թառեն, Ուրկե միայն լալ գիտցաք դարերով… === The Bells Hear the sledges with the bells- Silver bells! What a world of merriment their melody foretells! How they tinkle, tinkle, tinkle, In the icy air of night! While the stars that oversprinkle All the heavens, seem to twinkle With a crystalline delight; Keeping time, time, time, In a sort of Runic rhyme, To the tintinnabulation that so musically wells From the bells, bells, bells, bells, Bells, bells, bells- From the jingling and the tinkling of the bells. II Hear the mellow wedding bells, Golden bells! What a world of happiness their harmony foretells! Through the balmy air of night How they ring out their delight! From the molten-golden notes, And an in tune, What a liquid ditty floats To the turtle-dove that listens, while she gloats On the moon! Oh, from out the sounding cells, What a gush of euphony voluminously wells! How it swells! How it dwells On the Future! how it tells Of the rapture that impels To the swinging and the ringing Of the bells, bells, bells, Of the bells, bells, bells,bells, Bells, bells, bells- To the rhyming and the chiming of the bells! III Hear the loud alarum bells- Brazen bells! What a tale of terror, now, their turbulency tells! In the startled ear of night How they scream out their affright! Too much horrified to speak, They can only shriek, shriek, Out of tune, In a clamorous appealing to the mercy of the fire, In a mad expostulation with the deaf and frantic fire, Leaping higher, higher, higher, With a desperate desire, And a resolute endeavor, Now- now to sit or never, By the side of the pale-faced moon. Oh, the bells, bells, bells! What a tale their terror tells Of Despair! How they clang, and clash, and roar! What a horror they outpour On the bosom of the palpitating air! Yet the ear it fully knows, By the twanging, And the clanging, How the danger ebbs and flows: Yet the ear distinctly tells, In the jangling, And the wrangling, How the danger sinks and swells, By the sinking or the swelling in the anger of the bells- Of the bells- Of the bells, bells, bells,bells, Bells, bells, bells- In the clamor and the clangor of the bells! IV Hear the tolling of the bells- Iron Bells! What a world of solemn thought their monody compels! In the silence of the night, How we shiver with affright At the melancholy menace of their tone! For every sound that floats From the rust within their throats Is a groan. And the people- ah, the people- They that dwell up in the steeple, All Alone And who, tolling, tolling, tolling, In that muffled monotone, Feel a glory in so rolling On the human heart a stone- They are neither man nor woman- They are neither brute nor human- They are Ghouls: And their king it is who tolls; And he rolls, rolls, rolls, Rolls A paean from the bells! And his merry bosom swells With the paean of the bells! And he dances, and he yells; Keeping time, time, time, In a sort of Runic rhyme, To the paean of the bells- Of the bells: Keeping time, time, time, In a sort of Runic rhyme, To the throbbing of the bells- Of the bells, bells, bells- To the sobbing of the bells; Keeping time, time, time, As he knells, knells, knells, In a happy Runic rhyme, To the rolling of the bells- Of the bells, bells, bells: To the tolling of the bells, Of the bells, bells, bells, bells- Bells, bells, bells- To the moaning and the groaning of the bells. Edgar Allan Poe

Մարաշի բարբառով մենք զոկանչին կոչենք ՊԱՐՄԷՐ/ՊԱՐՄԱՅՐ, իմա մեղուափեթակի մայր թագուհի,- QUEEN BEE. http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_531/1282222973ztkWe0.jpg http://www.roctronics.com/BEE-MALE.JPG

FOOD FIGHTS FOOD WARS ԿԵՐԱ- ԿՌԻՒ ԿԵՐԱ-ՄԱՐՏ Ուր ես Մօվսէս? Երբ այդ շունեերը արեւանգում են մեր ամեսաուրբ կերակուրը: Hey MosJan! Where is the “Herisa Army/Հերիսա յ Բանակ”? :ap: === Cuisine and Culture: UNESCO puts Armenian harisa on list of Turkish national dishes Here are the furks (?) cooking Herisa Anjar Musa Ler; http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.azad-hye.net/photos/photoalbumimgs/tenth-anniversary-2008-04.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.azad-hye.net/photos/viewalbumpicture.asp%3Fal%3D40%26pi%3D6&h=480&w=640&sz=125&tbnid=wxMCKvJx4QHTSM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dherisa%2Bpictures%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=herisa+pictures&docid=MOOXhEW4O5XYSM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vP_YTtT7JYrf0QHD953zDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCAQ9QEwAA&dur=951 http://www.azad-hye.net/photos/photoalbumimgs/tenth-anniversary-2008-04.jpg http://www.azad-hye.net/photos/photoalbumimgs/tenth-anniversary-2008-04.jpg http://www.armenianow.com/news/33816/unesco_world_heritage_harisa http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/harisa-armenian.jpg http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/harisa-armenian.jpg We talked about Fod Fights here as well; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=30351&st=0&p=275374&hl=food%20fights&fromsearch=1entry275374 ==== My ardent wish is that Mr. Sedrak Mamulian play Hey Jan Ghapama with his pots and pans and stay out of linguistics and etymology, where it is obvious that he knows “beans/lobi” about. Every time he opens his big mouth he stuffs it with “dolma”. See what we wrote about “keshkek” http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=13349&pid=162266&st=0entry162266 http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=32417&st=40&p=279969&hl=tolma&fromsearch=1entry279969 http://www.azg.am/AM/2011030220 *** Clusters by Nairi http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=7904&st=0&p=90344&hl=cluster&fromsearch=1entry90344

As to the third generation, they are free to call me anything they can in their newly learned language, like dada, papa***, gramp or even "hey you". As long as it it is with love and respect. Remember we are all friends, khnamy-s whether 20 or 100 year old. It does not have to be a "family feud" *** http://www.popeye.com/downloads/popeye2.jpg http://www.popeye.com/downloads/popeye2.jpg BTW. Dear Extra address them by their first names, no disrespect, only in friendship.Just as in-laws are supposed to be friends. Not SarGSYAns v SarKISIAns. Not McCoys and Hatfields** or Capulets and Montagues (Romeo and Juliet) ** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfield%E2%80%93McCoy_feud

ԾՈՒՌ ՆՍՏԻՆՔ ՇԻՏԱԿ ԽՕՍԻՆՔ, or is it ՇԻՏԱԿ ՆՍՏԻՆՔ ԾՈՒՌ ԽՕՍԻՆՔ? Sit crooked and speak straight, -or is it- Sit straight and speak crooked? I kind of tend to agree with above authors Ara M and Naira H. Seems like the era of “telethons” has become obsolete. Even the original ones like the one by Jerry Lewis’ MD shows have become a little stale. Is the ERA of Punchuni-s over? It is reminiscent and redundant of this by Erwand Otian , Մի Քիչ Փող Ուղարկէ-Send Some Money for this or that Punchuni is coming up with yet another harebrained project and… SEND SOME MONEY, SEND SOME MORE MONEY! WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILTY? Be they water project, highway project… this project, that project….*** http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18808&st=0&p=250937&hl=send&fromsearch=1entry250937 I did not see the actual telethon , my local TV did not air it, neither could I see it on the internet. Is it because the whole of telethons have had better days?** It is reported that this year 12.xxx million dollars were raised. How many of those pledges are real money, and how much just emotional and օղի/oghi/խորուած/khorwats inspired idle promise that will never be delivered? ---- What will the next theme of the telethon be? Raise funds to buy new and improved BMWs for the privileged? We have yet to see the results of all those projects and have an x-ray of the pockets of the handlers, an account of the distribution of the funds. Why is that the natives of Yerevan and Stepanakert, however many of them are left build their own country, schools, hospitals, highways and waterways? How long must the Diaspora grease the palms and fill the pockets of a few chosen “oligarchs” who drive the latest models of Mercedes and BMW while many diasporans cant‘ even afford a 20 year old Chevrolet klunker? See how many fatal auto accidents in Yerevan involve BMWs and Humvees. Who issues them drivers licenses when they can’t even distinguish between a traffic green light and a red light or read a STOP sign. This is a whole separate topic when in America with a billion cars on the streets and highways there are far less fatal accidents than in Yerevan with a couple of thousand cars? **Speaking of the deja-vu of the telethons. See how the concept of “FORUMS” including this one has had better days. General ennui/fatigue? Deep coma/Խոր Մահաքուն? Has everyone said what they have itching to say for many years? Hs everyone said how they hate tews and jurks?**** Are all issues been resolved? Are there no other issues left? Oh yes! We know the Big G has become a matter of definition. The what? ***This is reminiscent of the early 20th century slogan when American parents would deny “luxuries” to their children who would not eat their spinach saying “Remember the Starving Armenians”. **** Will these wretched souls see even 12 luma-s out of those 12+ million dollars? See these pictorials and weep http://hetq.am/eng/multimedia/slideshows/18/ http://hetq.am/eng/multimedia/slideshows/29/

This is eerie. I have known Doctor Artin. http://www.houshamadyan.org/arm/mapottomanempire/vilayetaleppo.html The caption of the below photo says - Doctor Harutiun DerGhazarian’s family ca. 1880-s Մարաշ, ca 1880ականներ։ Բժշկ. Յարութիւն Տէր Ղազարեանի (Խատենց) ընտանիքը (Աղբիւր՝ Միհրան Մինասեանի հաւաքածոյ) http://www.houshamadyan.org/typo3temp/pics/47e85cafbe.jpg http://www.houshamadyan.org/typo3temp/pics/47e85cafbe.jpg I wonder if Doctor Harutium, endearingly known as “doktor Artin” in Aleppo is in the picture. He is probably one of the younger children, if not the youngest as, according to his bio he was born in 1882 in Marash…. In 1902 he enrolled at the School of Medicine at AUB in Beirut where he graduated as a surgeon.. In Aleppo he was an institution all by himself, much trusted, loved, respected. and adored He was a lifelong bachelor, never married. His two sister also unmarried helped him in his domestic chores as well as in his profession. He did not have a set fee. There would be a basket at his desk where the clients would drop whatever kind of money they could afford, be it coins, paper money or none. You think he should have been sanctified as Sourb Harutiun/ Սուրբ. Արթին!! --- PS. Johannes/ Hovannes. Դու գիտե՞ս Դոգտոր Արթինի մասին: Հարց տուր քո երէցներին:

This is eerie. I have known Doctor Artin. http://www.houshamadyan.org/arm/mapottomanempire/vilayetaleppo.html The caption of the below photo says - Doctor Harutiun DerGhazarian’s family ca. 1880-s Մարաշ, ca 1880ականներ։ Բժշկ. Յարութիւն Տէր Ղազարեանի (Խատենց) ընտանիքը (Աղբիւր՝ Միհրան Մինասեանի հաւաքածոյ) http://www.houshamadyan.org/typo3temp/pics/47e85cafbe.jpg http://www.houshamadyan.org/typo3temp/pics/47e85cafbe.jpg I wonder if Doctor Harutium, endearingly known as “doktor Artin” in Aleppo is in the picture. He is probably one of the younger children, if not the youngest as, according to his bio he was born in 1882 in Marash…. In 1902 he enrolled at the School of Medicine at AUB in Beirut where he graduated as a surgeon.. In Aleppo he was an institution all by himself, much trusted, loved, respected. and adored He was a lifelong bachelor, never married. His two sister also unmarried helped him in his domestic chores as well as in his profession. He did not have a set fee. There would be a basket at his desk where the clients would drop whatever kind of money they could afford, be it coins, paper money or none. You think he should have been sanctified as Sourb Harutiun/ Սուրբ. Արթին!!

Seems there were two Armenian villages named Kamurj. On the area of Bitlis with 57 houses, pop- 688. I wa totally wiped out in 1915. And the other in the neighborhood of Edessia/Ourfa, with 400 all Armenian houses and a church Սբ. Աստուածածին. It was “cleansed” in 1915. Here it is; http://img41.xooimage.com/files/2/e/1/z-640-12126f6.jpg http://img41.xooimage.com/files/2/e/1/z-640-12126f6.jpg ---- - Արեւմտահայաստանի եւ Արեւմտահայութեան Հարցերու Ուսումնասիրութեան Կեդրոն - http://akunq.net/am - Ուրֆայի (Եդեսիա) Գերմյուշ գյուղի (Կամուրջ գյուղ) հայկական եկեղեցին Վանքեր-եկեղեցիներ | -Հետևը` լեռ, դիմացը` դաշտավայր: Վիրան քաղաքի ճանապարհի վրա` Ուրֆա նահանգի կենտրոնից 10 կմ հյուսիս-արևելք գտնվող Գերմյուշ լեռների (771 մ) հարավային փեշերով հոսող աղբյուրների ջրի (երմյուշի ջուր) մոտակայքում գտնվում է Գերմյուշ գյուղը, որը հայերից մնացած մի գյուղ է: Այսօրվա անունը Դաղեթեղի է: Իսկ հողերի տակ գտնվող անցքերից տեղյակ գանձախույզները գյուղում անվերջ մաքսանենգ պեղումներ են կատարում: Հայկական եկեղեցին (Գերմյուշ- Կամուրջ) Քանի որ Գերմյուշ գյուղում գտնվող հայկական եկեղեցու արձանագրությունները չկան, կառուցման թվականը հայտնի չէ: Երկրի ամենահին տաճարներից մեկին` Գյոբեքլիթեփեյին շատ մոտ է գտնվում: Եկեղեցին երկհարկանի քարե կառույց է: Հարթ քարից ուղղանկյուն բազիլիկաձև կառուցված եկեղեցու մուտքի մոտ բարձրանում են երեք սուր կամարներ: Խաչաձև կամարների վրա կա հողածածկ հարթ տանիք: Ապսցիսի առջև կա մի փոքրիկ գմբեթ: Պաշտամունքի վայրը երեք նեֆից է բաղկացած: Եկեղեցու կենտրանական նեֆում մեկ գմբեթ է գտնվում: Իսկ Երեք բաժին ունեցող նարթեքսի վրա գտնվող Կնաքայոնը (Կանանց հավաքատեղի) երեք գմբեթով է ծածկված: Տարբեր ժամանակներում իրականացվող վերանորոգումների պատճառով կառույցը աստիճանաբար կորցնում է առանձնահատկությունները: 1890 -1922 Չնայած թուրք պատմագրությունը խեղաթյուրում է իրադարձությունները` Հայոց ցեղասպանությունից փրկվածներ պատմածները այս հրաշքով ստեղծագործության մասին արժեքավոր տեղեկություններ են տալիս: Ըստ այդ տեղեկությունների` 1890-ական թթ. սկզբին այս գյուղում ապրում էր հազար քրիստոնյա: 1895 թ. հայերի համար արյունոտ տարի էր. շատ մահացություններ են եղել: Հայերի գաղթից հետո Աթաթյուրքը գյուղի հարստությունները նվիրեց իրաքցի մի համիդիական շեյխի` Ուջեյմի Սյումեր փաշային: Վերջինս Առաջին համաշխարային պատերազմի ժամանակ Օսմանյան կայսրության սիրիական ճակատում կռվելուց հետո Թուրքիա է գալիս և այստեղ բնակություն հաստատում: Նրա իսկական անունը Ուջեյմի Սադուն փաշա էր: Սյումեր ազգանունն է վերցնում 1934 թ. ուժի մեջ մտած ազգանունի օրենքով: Առաջին համաշխարհային պատերազմի նախօրյակին հնարավոր հարձակման դեմն առնելու համար հայերը նախապատրաստվեցին: 1915թ. մայիսին տարածաշրջանի մյութեսարիֆ (գավառապետ) նշանակված Միություն և առաջադիմություն կազմակերպության անդամ Ալի Հայդար բեյը սկզբում ականավոր հայերին բանտարկեց: Ազատվելու համար սրանք մեծ կաշառքներ տվեցին ու աղքատացան, իսկ նրանք, ո վքեր չկարողացան փող տալ, կախվեցին: Դիմադրողները զորակոչվեեցին, օգտագործվեցին ճանապարհների կառուցման համար և այլևս հետ չվերադարձան: Ինչպես հասկանում ենք հուշերից` գերմանական բանակն էլ է մասնակցել հայերի բնակավայրերի ոչնչացմանը: 1921 թ. հարձակվեցին մնացյալ հայերի տների վրա, խլեցին ունեցվածքը: Հայերը, թողնելով ամեն ինչ, փախան Մոսուլ և Հալեպ: Զեյթունը, Ադանան, Սիսը, Մարաշը, Քիլիսը, Այնթաբը, Ուրֆան, Կամուրջը և այլ քաղաքներ ամբողջությամբ զտվեցին հայերից, շատերը մահմեդականացան: Հայերից մնացած մեկ այլ եկեղեցի` Սրբ. Հակոբը, կառուցվել է այն հրապարակում, որտեղ ժողովներ էին տեղի ունենում: http://team-aow.discuforum.info/t3605-Urfa-Germus-koyu-Ermeni-Kilisesi.htm ==== Hey Harut! Is your family here? http://www.houshamadyan.org/arm/mapottomanempire/vilayetaleppo.html

KARMUJ- KARMUNJ- KAMURJ Hey Harut,! Your grandpa’s house is a touristic attraction now. http://news.am/eng/news/83780.html See where we spoke about Karmuj http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1644&pid=16140&st=0entry16140 And here you can see what is now known as- Dagteg; http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&cp=4&gs_id=2m&xhr=t&q=urfa+turkey+map&pq=dagdag+turkey+map&rlz=1R2RNTN_enUS376&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1056&bih=449&wrapid=tljp1322657360493220&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x153471ebdc619091:0x8e788516b709466c,%C5%9Eanl%C4%B1urfa/%C5%9Eanl%C4%B1urfa+Province,+Turkey&gl=us&ei=eybWTpu3M4Hj0QH6y5TeAQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCkQ8gEwAA

Very touching Mos, specially the above verse. PLEASE TELL US THE SAGA OF YOUR FAMILY. WERE THEY IN THAT EXILE/ETHNIC CLEANSING OF 1939? The majority of those exiles came to Aleppo, the most generous and hospitable of all host countries, many of whom eventually ended up in Anjar, Lebanon. I have known some of them personally, some very closely. Those batard French who encouraged the Armenians of Kilikia to confront those rabid dogs/wolves ** to eventually betray and abandon them to the “mercy” of the murderous mob. On the side. As we speak, those same bastards and their partners in crime are trying their damndest to disturb the peace and tranquility of Syria, a country and people who have been the most generous haven to the Armenians , not only from Kilikia and Alexandretta but also from the entire Western Armenia, all the way from Kesaria, Sebastia, Kharberd , Tikranakerd, and more. **The wolf is such a noble beast, yet those savage SOBs call themselves “(grey) wolves”. PS. Some day I will write what happened in Marash and those French bastards,

Iranian Misiles? Or is t Ahmadi massals?*** Watch out mehmetoghlu. Here comes ahmadizadeh Which is bigger, Iranian Mouths or their Missiles? Is this the kind of missiles they’re talking about? ***I can’t find it now. In the Pers-Arabo “massal/mathal” means legend/առասպել Soukiasian says- ՄԱՍԱԼ= Առակ. Հեքիաթ i.e Առասպել- legend., fable, fiction.. About “հեքիաթ/heqiat” in another post./ http://swingingforthedowns.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/jarts.jpg http://swingingforthedowns.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/jarts.jpg I don’t want to sound sarcastic, but we do remember when the Iranians had several empires, at times ruling half the then known world. Of course all that happened when their leaders had names like- Cyrus -Կիւրոս , Darius- Դարեհ, Xerxes- Քսերքսէս, Artaxerxes- Արտաքսերքէս / Արտաշէս Before those clowns began renaming themselves Ahmadi-boo boo gaga and Ayato-lulu lala. And now Ahmad is rattling sabers against mehmet, moshe and Abe (Lincoln)? ----- Do we laugh or do we weep? To borrow a phrase from this book. ==== ** “Quds/qudus” to mean “holy” is the Arabic name for Jerusalem. See the Lord’s Prayer in Arabic where it says “Yeqeddes Ismek- Hallowed be Thy Name/ Սուրբ Եղիցի Անուն Քո.” For those who can read AraboFarci;أَبَانَا الذِي فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ،لِيُقَدَّسَ اسْمُكَ. لِيَأْتِ مَلَكُوتُكَ، Just as “Qudsi” means holy it also means Jerusalemite. At one time even Armenians would name their children, male and female, so.

MUSA LER WAS SOLD “Thirty pieces of Silver” or Seven million Francs? History repeats. Anyone here familiar with the docudrama Անին ԾախուեցաւAni Was Sold? I see references to it but no expansion. Who sold Ani? What and how much did the Byzantines get for it? http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=4614&st=0&p=36444&hl=musa&fromsearch=1entry36444 A quote from above; You too Judas Franco?** http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v_urTPvZSiY/Ta9UuEqyfCI/AAAAAAAAAwk/7J3ZN1UQs1g/s320/judas-30-pieces-of-silver-21.jpg http://news.am/eng/news/83581.html . ** We remember all too well when the occupying French forces suddenly in one night tied felt to the horses hooves and sussik pussik abandoned Kilikia leaving the Armenians as easy prey to the furks. One wonders what else is being sold by whom to whom and for how much?

ԼԱՒԱՇ ՈՒ ԽԱՇ, ԶՈՒՏ ՀԱՅՈՒ ՃԱՇ Հաց ու Պանիր, մի Հեռացիր http://www.hughesinternet.com/Recipes/images/lavash.jpg http://www.hughesinternet.com/Recipes/images/lavash.jpg Nvard, this is special for you. Armenian Penicillin http://blansh.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/khash1.jpg\ http://blansh.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/khash1.jpg http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/armenian-lavash-making.jpg http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/armenian-lavash-making.jpg http://www.armenianow.com/features/33593/armenian_bread_lavash_kotayk_village ԼԱՒԱՇ ՏԻԿԻՆ http://www.armenianow.com/hy/features/33602/armenian_bread_lavash_kotayk_village Features | 25.11.11 | 12:17 Lavash Lady: A morning inside Lusik’s tonratoon NAZIK ARMENAKYAN ArmeniaNow By Gayane Mkrtchyan ArmeniaNow reporter Lusik’s sea-blue eyes hold the reflection of the red-glowing tonir, the fire pit used in the process of making lavash, Armenian flatbread. She slaps another sheet of flour mix against the tonir’s hot wall. The paper-thin bread starts to change from yellow to brown, and with tender hands used to working in the heat, Lusik removes another piece that will add to the bulk of about 330 slices of lavash she makes every other day. “My flower bread…” Lusik says, scattering the lavash delicately on a special cloth on the floor. For 20 years, every morning at 5 a.m. while her village sleeps, smoke rises from the yerdik (an opening in the roof for smoke) and fills Lusik’s tonratoon (the shed which houses a tonir), and in a few minutes the sweet aroma of lavash ride the wind. “Only a lazy person can say that there is no job and sit doing nothing, however, it is not true. There are people in our village who, roughly speaking, do not have even bread to eat, but they do not want to trouble themselves,” says 46-year-old Lusik Grigoryan. Lusik’s family lives in Goght village, Kotayk province (40 km north of Yerevan). In 1990s, when everything was in a mess in the country (Armenia), under the newly formed economic system the family decided to bake bread and sell it. “In the beginning we baked on a machine, but one day the wires of the electricity were cut off, and my husband said, ‘Lusik, can’t you bake lavash in tonir?’ I replied that I would try. Twenty years have passed since that try,” she recalls. In the beginning Lusik herself took her baked lavash to the market to sell it there, but when the number of her clients increased she had to give her lavash to people who later resold it so that she could bake more. Analyzing the past years from an economic aspect, Lusik says that in the beginning she sold lavash directly for 40 drams (about 10 cents) a sheet. Now, re-sellers pay her 100 drams a sheet and re-sell for 120 (about 40 cents). Costs of flour and wood have steadily risen. “Lavash indicates the poor economic condition of our life,” she says. The mild glide of the rolling pin is heard. A dough ball is being rolled out flat under the proportionate pressure of the rolling pin. The woman who works with the rolling pin is Lusik’s sister – Gayane. She skillfully keeps the evenness and flatness of the opened dough, a key part of the lavash process. The rolled out dough dances in Lusik’s hands, after which Lusik stretches it on a rafada (a special handmade board made of thick cloth and straw pulp) and evens the edges of the rolled out dough, sprays a few drops of water and scatters some flour on it, and takes the rafada with the dough to the hot tonir. There must be someone to open and close the lid of tonir to check whether lavash is ready or not, and if yes, take it out with a special iron pole the tip of which is hooked. Usually this job is done by Lusik’s husband – Torgom, but this time he is replaced by his mother – 73-year-old granny Terez. “Bread baking also needs skills, not everyone can bake such lavash. It depends on a person’s talent and hands. There are people whose lavash breaks easily, and they cannot eat it and give the bread to hens,” says Lusik’s mother-in-law. Every Sunday is Lusik’s market day. At 8:00 a.m. she is already in the market, and she usually does not have lavash left in two hours. She sells lavash at 100 drams (30 cents) each; six lavashes make one kilo. “Traditionally lavash has been baked by women in Armenian families; nevertheless it is a very difficult job to do for a woman - from preparing dough, making balls of them to baking. Simply I earn my living baking lavash,” Lusik says. The woman, who bakes 2,000 lavashes per week, confesses that she has no special secret, she simply does everything properly. “I do not mean to brag, but the number one bread in the bazaar is mine, because everybody asks me what I do, that I have such delicious and pretty lavash. I have no secret, I knead dough properly, make balls of it . . . I work hard, and as a result, I get good bread” she says. The fire disappears gradually, and Lusik lights a new fire. Throwing dry wood into the tonir, she says that they change the clay oven four years, every time paying 30,000 drams (about $90). This is her fourth tonir. It is a work that allows for contemplation in the quiet of the morning, and Lusik thinks about news of the recent mayoral change in Yerevan. She does not want even to hear about the upcoming Parliamentary elections in spring. “No matter what happens I will keep on baking lavash. With difficulty, yet we manage everything, and I am pleased that I can help my children. If I were displeased I would not do this heavy work so long,” says Lusik taking the recurrent flower-bread out of the tonir. Enjoy. Կախարդական Լաւաշ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePaw2Wzjc0I ==== Lest we lose it, here is thez Armenian text. === PS. The reason I spelled it “լաՒաշ” is because originally the word was spelled as լաՒշ which in time turned to լՕշ and eventually to լՈշ whereby we lost all relation to our native language. ՏՈՒՆ ԱՐԻ? Համեստափայլ Նախարա Տիկին Հրանուշ, խնդրեմ Դու Տուն Արի Հայաստան, եւ հրաժարիր թուրքերէն օճախ կցել ամեն Հայ բառի,կրթօճախ, գաղթօճախ, մեր օճախ, ձեր օճախ, մենք Հայերէն ենք խօսում ոչ Ռուսերէն, ոչ թուրերէն : Օճախըդ ակութըդ մարի եւ սովորիր Մեր Սրբազան Մեսրոպատառ Հայոց Լեզուն!! See; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10722&st=0&p=134963&hl=lavash&fromsearch=1entry134963

HOOT THE NEWT!!! Or is it NEUTER THE NEWT? NEWT-the-FURK? The Newt.(Gingrich), seems to be the sweetheart and the front runner of the Republican candidates. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jHt8Isoc-hU/TdqfR08RCfI/AAAAAAAADiI/f2e1Znzqg40/s1600/newt02.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jHt8Isoc-hU/TdqfR08RCfI/AAAAAAAADiI/f2e1Znzqg40/s1600/newt02.jpg In no way or shape must he become the President, the Commander in Chief In Washington. Maybe ankaga?. We still remember when he averred that he is a ”young furk” and that his all time hero-model is “gagafurk”. Some that I have found so far. http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~haroldfs/pedagog/arguments/ataturk/gingrich.html http://www.zeynelabidinerdem.com/_asa_celebrated http://www.columbia.edu/~sss31/Turkiye/ata/halman.html And note that other “bird/Byrd” - may he RIP- rot in piss.

CAVEAT EMPTOR- Buyer beware!! Apology-mapology. Yerkou para/luma chi arzhi. It is like moshe promsing Mahmoud Palestinian independence, but ??? Talk is cheap. Did he even acknowledge that kurdish is a distinct ethnos and language? Did he promise a free and independent kurdistan? Here erbokhan sings his theme song-confession- “ The Great Pretender”. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtXnUEW_OXw&feature=related And here he sings- Yes Madame Europe! “Smoke Gets in Your Eyes” There may be some who believe his “cry wolf” and “crocodile tears“,. Talk is cheap, where ‘s the beef/shish kebab? Apologies of the kind and two cents may get you a bus ticket to Antalya. What’s next? Apologize to the Armenians for those “events” when three ragtag Armenian freedom fighters slaughtered three million furks and other muslims? We remember when that master liar did this, that made some of us jump with joy; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=16556&pid=207789&st=0entry207789 Nothing new. This is an old game going all the way to the days of hamid with the so called “reforms/constitution” , and we fell for it time after time. To repeat an old Arabic adage- When the wolf (lion) bares its fangs, it does not mean it is smiling. ---- http://www.animalshirts.net/wolfshirts/wolfshirtMJ37.jpg http://www.animalshirts.net/wolfshirts/wolfshirtMJ37.jpg Speaking of “neo-ottomanism”; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanzimat

Once again we are the threshold of the Holiday Season. Tomorrow Thursday will be the Day of Thanksgiving, followed by Black Friday, perhaps an unfortunate name? In fact it means “black” as in profit v “red” as in loss. If only I could be an Aztec Emperor for a day! My ardent wish is, has always been that this Holiday not be called by the “furkey” name of that noble bird. When we were young we were urged to call Thanksgiving Day Փառաբանութեան Օր/Day of Praise. See #10 above.

GOING HOME http://www.armenianow.com/arts_and_culture/33475/armenia_opera_arts_hasmik_papyan http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/Kamo-Hovhannisyan-Hasmik-Papian.jpg http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/Kamo-Hovhannisyan-Hasmik-Papian.jpg]

And the Walls came tumbling down. How do they say “shooting oneself in the foot” in boku? http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0511-0809-0914-2137_Man_Shooting_Himself_in_the_Foot_Clip_Art_clipart_image.jpg http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0511-0809-0914-2137_Man_Shooting_Himself_in_the_Foot_Clip_Art_clipart_image.jpg http://news.am/eng/news/82933.htm Negro Spiritual -“Joshua Fit (fought)the Battle of Jericho, and the Walls came tumbling down.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6JUyJzpH0M --- Joshua fit the battle of Jericho Jericho Jericho; Joshua fit the battle of Jericho And the walls came tumbling down. --- See the rest here; http://ingeb.org/spiritua/joshuafi.html

Yes Yervant, I understand your trepidation. You will notice that I aired it with very little editorial if any, except where I repeatedly used the word “stretch“. I don’t know who or what this Prof. Pilikian is, but for a moment I thought I was having flashbacks to these hallucinations and that he is a reincarnation of our own stretch-master. More by Lion1700. Search and see what he has said in the History/schmistory section http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=20238&pid=256443&st=0entry256443 Like the Ayr-ish, the Ayra-qians and the Ayr-anians will give us yerkou luma for the discovery!!! Who told him the Irish call themselves "Air-Ayr-ish"?