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ON REASON & EMOTION ********************************** We only pretend to analyze with our reason; in reality we think and analyze with our emotions, and that which does not engage us emotionally we consider unworthy of analysis. What drives men to action is not reason or common sense (which is said to be the least common of all faculties) but emotion. By revealing all sides of a problem, reason tends to paralyze the will. The blinder the emotion or the narrower the prejudice, by contrast, the more single-minded the action. Which may explain why fanatics like Hitler and Stalin have accomplished much more in history than philosophers like Sartre and Wittgenstein. How many lives did Socrates and Plato save? We don’t know. But we do know that Socrates could not even save his own life; and Plato, who was his most devoted disciple, could do nothing to help him. How many men, women, and children did Sultan Abdulhamid II and Talaat kill?… -------------------- ara baliozian
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OF CABBAGES AND KINGS ************************************ One of the worst blunders a nation can make is to trust its past to a nationalist historian and forever after to confuse his version of it with reality. There is only one past but as many versions of it as there are nations, tribes, and historians who slice it up like salami and serve it up as baloney. The difference between a pathological liar and a nationalist historian is that, after a while, no one believes the liar; but when a historian writes "We lost the war because the Geneva Convention and the Marquis de Queensberry rules meant nothing to the enemy and everything to us"; or "We were paragons of virtue in a world of scumbags and slezeballs"; or "The enemy employed 5872 elephants against our single jackass (who happened to be blind in one eye and deaf in both ears)": not only he is believed but also quoted again and again so that after a while it doesn’t even occur to anyone to question his veracity. What do you think would happen if an Iraqi historian were to write a history of Iraq today? My guess is he would represent Saddam Hussein as a reincarnation of Alexander the Great, Caesar and Napoleon rolled into one. Of course, it goes without saying that our own historians wouldn’t even dream of behaving in such a despicable manner because, you see, as everyone knows by now, unlike their scumbag and sleazeball counterparts in Iraq, Turkey, or America, they happen to be men of integrity and paragons of virtue who would rather die than utter an untruth! -------------------- ara baliozian
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THE MOUNTAIN AND THE DUNGHEAP ********************************************* We Armenians may not agree on many things but we do agree on two things: (a) reality is against us and it has been against us throughout our millennial history, and ( we must do whatever we can to change it. Before we undertake the arduous task of moving the mountain on the horizon however, we must begin by shoveling the pile of dung accumulated in our own backyard; and that’s where we disagree. Some of us have trouble acknowledging the existence of the dung, and their blindness is of the worst kind because it is self-inflicted; which also means, there is no cure for it. Only a messiah may help. Let us now pray: "Our Father Who art in heaven..." -------------------- ara baliozian
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LIES IN HISTORY ***************************** Every nation re-writes history. We are as much revisionists as the Turks. Case in point: we are told again and again that, since we were at the crossroads of empires, we didn’t have much of a chance for peace, progress and prosperity. What we are not told is that empires are not born but made, and at the origin of every empire there were two tribes or warlords willing to negotiate, compromise and unite against a third. So that, on the day one of our bosses or bishops says to the other: "I am willing to abdicate my position as number one and help you to unite the community," we too may have a chance to become an empire in a world of disintegrating empires. But as long as our leaders place their titles, powers and privileges above the interests or even the survival of the community, we are destined to maintain our status as perennial losers forever at the mercy or at the crossroads of bloodthirsty empires and savages who have understood something we have refused to understand again and again: namely, there is strength in unity and a house divided against itself cannot stand. -------------------- ara baliozian
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quote:Originally posted by Berj: P.S. Why do you write? If you do not answer this, I'll think that you write only for money (which is not a bad thing to do). Do you want to help Armenians (please, answer this question?). I know it sounds trivial, but answer it, please, for us (the forum) to know the goal of your career. OK, sorry, I found your answer in your reply to Raffi: "There is corruption, lies, and incompetence in the most advanced democracies. There are also critics, dissidents, and investigative reporters. Where are ours? / ara" But why are you trying to change the Diaspora's thinking. Do it in Armenia. It is the center of Armenians, isn't it. Criticise our politicians naming them and their specific wrongdoings. Why do you generalise so much?
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OK MJ, you got an invitation for a khorovats at Garni-Geghard (in the village Berdadzor between them). Programme of the vist: 1.Departure from Echimidzin Mother Cathedral (donations to the church before departure) 2.Arrival at Matenadaran Institute of Ancient Manuscripts. Attandance of a lecture by Dr.LTP on "The positive impact of Armenian church on political institutions of ancient Armenia" (donations to the institute) 3.Departure to ARF scout camp in Lori region. Barbeque lunch at camp (donations to the camp) 4.Departure to HHSh party headquarters. Meeting with the Chairman Vano. (no donations) 5.Arrival at Garni-Geghard (!!!) for a barbeque dinner at the nearby gorge. Attandance of a Matagh ceremony by Tseghakron Aryan Society at Garni. (donations to the society) 6.Departure to St.Sarkis Church in Yerevan. Prior to arrival at St.Sarkis, participation in Vardavar festival in Kond, Silachi and Krivoi quarters of Yerevan. (donations at the church) 7.Arrival at the Mirrage night club. Candlelighting ceremo...(sorry, typo), barbeque supper at the club...(donations to the club) RSVP Berj, Hye Forum
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Usually I read you writings because they're intersting. But now, in this posting, I want to contradict you and assert my intellectual superiority (is it something bad?). You're very predictable, because you produce only smart thoughts, the number of which in our universe is limited. I know what and who I am. And I know that you know it too. Yes, I was silent until now, to find out the levels of your brain power. You have a 1-st class brain. I have it too. I used the trick of false sarcasmic agreement to undermine your entry above. It was not ment to silence you, it was ment to win over you. If I'll not win this time I'll try again (if you have enough time for that). P.S. Why do you write? If you do not unswer this, I'll think that you write only for money (which is not a bad thing to do). Do you want to help Armenians (please, answer this question?). I know it sounds trivial, but answer it, please, for us (the forum) to know the goal of your career.
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Mos Jan, you welcome matagh.
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Gahakal Farm Check out the site. Keep in mind that each and every animal you see (wabits, pigs, cows etc.) reside in Armenia (how ironic ). So be nice and treat each one of them as an individual.
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Syunik Region of Armenia Shirak Region of Armenia Lori Region of Armenia Gayane, maghariche stanam
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MJ, The most famous patriots of the last war are all dead. The last one is in jail. Believe me, if the Diaspora lives with patriotism, Armenia already doesn't. People want professionalism badly. But all they see is corruption (internal and external), "professional" calculations based again on corruption and not on national security and economic imperatives. All the professionals are either out of the country or silent. Everyone is waiting for something to happen.
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quote:Originally posted by MJ: But doesn't it mean we have been doing something wrong for very long time? The problem, I think, is not the region, but us - lack of realism. MJ, Isn't realism based on calculations?
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quote:Originally posted by MJ: But doesn't it mean we have been doing something wrong for very long time? The problem, I think, is not the region, but us - lack of realism. MJ, Why were you wondering about lack of experience in ARF politics then? MJ, always consider that I'm an Armenian citizen who will deal with the possible war, clash etc. directly (which may involve my family). In the region we have 2 possible allies (Iran and Russia). Out of the region we have France, US, EU, Greece?, Syria?. Taking into account that THE HELP always comes very late (and my family), I think the realism is the thing we have been doing for very long time.
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ARMENIAN DEFENCE MINISTER: "THE RESTART OF WAR IS NOT REAL" YEREVAN, MARCH 16, ARMENPRESS: "During the past several years Armenia did not participate in war. And life will show the effectiveness of our foreign policy", said the Armenian Defence Minister Serge Sarkisian, answering the reporters' questions. According to him the romours about the war are risen because of some statements made by Azerbaijanians. The Defence Minister stated that the war restart is not real, though "the Defence Minister should consider the threat of war real every day".
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quote:Originally posted by MJ: I wonder if our Armenian politicians, especially those of ARF are going ever to learn anything? It's very dangerous situation. We have no allies in the region.
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quote:Originally posted by Sulamita: What I have "heard" so far is that since the October (1999) incident, the Azeri army has become stronger and the Armenian army has become weaker. I also know for fact (from people who live in Armenia) that there is a "zorahavaq" going on currently. The men who have served their 2 years are also being recruited. Will there be another war? I don't think so ... The info they gave you is wrong Sulamik. Technically we're superior of Azeries. Also consider, that if they gonna attack, they'll have to pass though the line of fortifications (at least 4 to 1 in casualties). There is no special zorahavaq taking place. The Defence Minister gave a briefing at the YSU pointing that more people with high education must be attracted to the army. There is also some roumors that the 3 month qualification courses for university graduates may start. That's it for now. Our current problem is the social trust.
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quote:Originally posted by Gayane: Which one of these "brilliant" governments is using war as a diversionist tactic this time? None of THEM.
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MosJan, Menq saghs el azgovi demq enq, skasats Sasounci Davtic. Ayd patchatrov el ays vichakum enq...
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quote:Originally posted by Gayane: What is your own definition of romance? Something out of limits. It's deffinitely not a dinner with wine and 2 candles in restaurant or at home, or shower/bath with lots of candles. To put it short, NO CANDLES quote: Are you attracted to romantic people, and if so, why? or why not? I'm not attracted to romantic girls, because I'm romantic miself, and if the girl a have a relationship with is also romatic it becomes a very dangerous drama. Romantic boys are not my business quote: What do you think is the reason our society (western, or American) places such a great emphasis on romance in relationships and in marriage? As much as I see it doesn't. (Am I on the hook Gaya?) quote: Describe a romantic moment or a romantic evening you either have had or would like to have (lol, nothing raunchy, please). For me romance is an athmosphere, a spiritual athmosphere. Because of this it's too personal to describe it to anyone. quote: What comes to mind when you think "romance"? Meddieval knights Usually I don't think about it. It happens on the spot, suddenly. And one must cut it short because...it's dangerous. quote: Do you think some people are romantic by nature? Yes. quote: Is it something that can be cultivated? No.
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http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg28440.html The Prague Post March 14, 2001 The year the world shrank Tom Engelhardt The year the world shrank Wills' view of world history reminds us that we've been a globalizing planet for more than 300 years THE WASHINGTON POST In 1688, more than 2,000 oil-burning lamps made the streets of Amsterdam among the safest in the world, but not as safe as those of Japan's well-organized and -patroled Kanazawa. According to John E. Wills Jr., Kanazawa had another claim to fame. It may have been "the biggest city in the world of 1688 with no foreigners." For those who imagine our global past as a matter of isolation and separation, Wills might say, think again. Few places in that year were free of "foreigners." A Greek adventurer, Constantine Phaulkon, was running the finances of Siam; a Scot, Gen. Patrick Ivanovich Gordon, commanded some of the Russian czar's troops; and the merchant Hovannes Joughayetsi was settling into a small community of Armenians in Tibet's Lhasa. For his masters in Isfahan, Persia, he conducted a trade in Bengali textiles on one side of the Himalayas while exchanging silver for gold in China's Qinghai Basin on the other. That we remember any of these lives is striking; that they were hardly unique is even more so. Something was already quickening in the world of 1688 as Europe's wooden ships, the global "ligaments" of the time, increasingly plied the oceans, transporting wonders, riches and bodies. By that year, a stream of those often unwilling bodies was already flowing westward to the New World, while a flood tide of silver, laboriously dug from South America's Potosi mines by enslaved Indian laborers, was leaving it. "Silver pesos from the American mints," Wills writes, "circulated all over Europe and in many ports and coastal districts of Asia." Admittedly, the world of 1688 is still far removed from today's global information order, where a flick of a finger sends millions of dollars winging through cyberspace around the planet. After all, near the end of the 17th century, it took William Dampier, the first Westerner to write about the Australian Aborigines, 12 hapless years to circle the Earth with marauding British buccaneers. Still, in his book, Wills offers us a vision of a recognizably globalizing world. Any history can't help but have the imprint of its own moment on it. In this sense, 1688, too, shows its age. Just as few people then could imagine the planet's geographical and human fullness, likewise, not many decades ago, few historians could imagine the fullness of history or would have considered the year 1688 significant for anything but England's "Glorious Revolution" (stirringly presented in this book, by the way). Wills presents a wider-angled vision of a more crowded planet that catches the essence of history-writing since the 1960s, when the "new social history" made its debut. In the best of his conjuring acts, Wills begins by following the rising sun westward as the first bells echo from the great churches of Manila and muezzins call the faithful to prayer on Mindanao in the Philippines. It's a tiny, two-page global tour de force, a testament to the ways historians have reframed the world that frames us. Wills' book is a product of its era in another way as well: It reflects the deep inroads camera and screen have made in our lives. The snapshot, the quick cut, the long pan and - sadly - the sound bite are essential to Wills' method. The results, at their worst, can be snippets of lives so paltry as to be empty and - because so much wasn't written down in 1688, so many "voices" had yet to speak - less than illuminating. The book is strongest in settings that poised literacy and power hand in hand; when, for example, a burgeoning merchant economy was changing the idea of an individual life or a bureaucracy was eager to exert political control via its recording powers. Then, the precision of what we do know is astonishing: The number of nutmeg trees on the Banda Islands - 660,000; the number of scholars who passed Beijing's prestigious metropolitan examination - 176; the number of haikai poems Ihara Saikaku wrote in a single day - 23,500 (and still a record). Given that most of the world was, in historical terms, a great silence, "hearing" the voices Wills highlights - the English writer Aphra Behn denouncing slavery in her melodramas, the Ottoman Turk Osman Agha's memories of his years in Christian captivity - can be stirring. And whatever the disappointments of Wills' quick cuts across a thin layer of time, he introduces us to a world in which a global imagination was already at work: Here is the Italian Jesuit missionary Eusebio Francisco Kino dreaming of an assignment in Imperial China, only to find himself among the Pima Indians of the Sonoran Desert; here is the sultan of Ternate naming his sons Amsterdam and Rotterdam after two cities he would never see. Wills has pulled from the raging silence of history a modest but roiling mass of transnational humanity, and so reminded us that we've been a globalizing planet for more than 300 years. The world of 1688 was already an economic, political, cultural and sexual entrepot, and it's been stewing away ever since. - Tom Englehardt is the author of The End of Victory Culture: Cold War America and the Disillusioning of a Generation (Culture, Politics, and the Cold War). Look for the books listed on these pages at The Globe, Big Ben and Anagram Bookshop, or online at www.amazon.com or www.bn.com.
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quote:Originally posted by dragon: Please visit the site www.loveandromance.com Why?
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SNARK CRITICAL DEFICIT OF PROGRAMMERS IS FELT IN ARMENIA YEREVAN, MARCH 14. A critical deficit of qualified programmers is felt in Armenia. The first deputy minister of Armenia's Industry and Trade Ashot Shahnazarian informed the journalists. As to him, presently there about 2500 programmers in the republic, and about 50 companies are being specialized in the sphere of information technologies, and these companies wholly implement the orders of large international companies. About 10 companies are the most active in that market. They are ready to increase the number of employees by five times, but they faced a serious problem of shortage of qualified personnel, Shahnazarian mentioned. The last few years, a big part of programmers left the country for searching jobs. Shahnazarian thinks that now the situation in the country has been changed to better and the programmers of Armenia earn not little money, in average $700 a month, and maximal salary is at $1500 a month. As to the deputy minister of Industry and Trade Armen Grigorian, it is planned to invest about $30 mln for the development of information technologies in Armenia in 2001. The American Epygi Labs company will invest $20 mln from that sum for the creation of technical park and retraining of programmers. The World Bank is ready to credit about $5 mln for these purposes. The Eurasia Fund is ready to allot from $2 to $3 mln for training of Armenian specialists and some more millions dollars will be invested in the head enterprise of "Transistor" industrial union. As to the economist of the World bank Lev Freinkman, annually in Armenia international organizations order computer programs by the sum at $20 mln.
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Armenia sets up body to draw up strategy to combat corruption Snark 13 March 2001 Success in fighting corruption is only possible if the efforts of all parts of Armenia's state and public structures are consolidated and the transparency of this process is ensured. The small (geographical - editor) area involved and the existence of the necessary will are a positive factor in this connection, Roy Reeve, head of the OSCE office in Yerevan, told a Snark correspondent. He said that importing Western mechanisms into Armenia to solve such problems was not important at all. "It is important to find Armenia's own way that will suit it. We already have the necessary political and technical assistance from the international community to achieve progress, but we all understand that this problem is not one that can be solved quickly," the envoy noted. At the moment the process of defining possibilities for mapping out a strategy for fighting corruption is under way. A working group consisting of representatives of international organizations and embassies has been set up and its coordinator is the OSCE office in Yerevan. The Armenian government is establishing a similar working group. These two groups have to cooperate in order to find out how to proceed and where international organizations and the governments of Armenia and foreign states should be invited to provide assistance in solving problems. Roy Reeve said that it was also planned that this working group should include representatives of the media and non-governmental organizations in order to keep society informed about its work and enable it to keep track of the process and understand what was going on. The envoy noted that when those designing the anti-corruption programme got closely involved in drawing up details of the strategy, they came across certain difficulties of a bureaucratic nature. Under the existing law, there are no well-organized mechanisms for transferring and exchanging information between employees of different ministries or different divisions of one ministry. This problem will probably now be settled soon, because a ministerial council has been established at the prime minister's initiative, which will deal with these issues. However, this set back work on the programme by three or four months. [passage omitted: Armenia has to adopt a law on corruption; international organizations should cooperate with the Armenian government in combatting corruption]
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The Armenian Weekly Online Chinese-Armenian Cyberguru Sets Toy World on Fire: For David Yang, Cybiko may be just the beginning By Antranig Kasbarian MOSCOW-As I shuffle along the grimy, ice-paved streets of this city, I look up to find my destination: a glass-paned, pencil-shaped spire that stands out amidst the gray, drab scenery of old kiosks, awnings, and Soviet-era office buildings. This hypermodern landmark is the headquarters of Cybiko, Inc., the internet appliance company that has stormed the cyberworld by appealing to gadget-hungry US teens. Once inside, I feel even further apart from the rest of Moscow. First, there are the shiny, antiseptic corridors; then there are the numerous labs echoing with beeps and whistles of new products being tested by young Russian "cyberfreaks"; then there are the dozens of programmers and engineers who are all abuzz, producing new software or instant computer games for posting on the Web; and then there are the plush dining and recreation facilities, all amidst an environment that is constantly in motion. Frankly, this is a setting more befitting of a James Bond movie than a newspaper interview. And yet, the man behind it all is remarkably calm, soft-spoken, and understated; hardly what you'd expect from the CEO of one of Russia's fastest-growing companies. His name is David Yang, a 32-year old wunderkind of Chinese-Armenian ancestry, who grew up in Armenia, moved to Moscow in 1985, and has never looked back since. Extremely relaxed in appearance and demeanor, Yang impressed me with his ability to discuss complex, technical subjects in simple terms, and also with his willingness to discuss his ethnic background and attachments to his Armenian homeland. Born in Yerevan in 1968, Yang is the product of parents who met as students at Moscow State University in the 1960s, his mother having come from Armenia and his father having come from Shanghai during China's Cultural Revolution. Upon graduating, the newlyweds moved to Yerevan, where David was born and raised. Although he has fond recollections of his Yerevan days, Armenia was unable to hold on to him for long. He relocated to Moscow at the tender age of 17 to study solid-state physics at the prestigious Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology, which held a reputation for training the brainpower of the Soviet defense industry. David Yang, however, moved in a different direction, choosing instead to concentrate on robotics and artificial intelligence. In 1987, even before graduating, he started his first company, ABBYY, which has since become a leader in developing scanning equipment and scanning-related software internationally. A frontrunner in market share as well as scanning accuracy, ABBYY has expanded in recent years toward developing speech recognition systems and language translation systems, new fields which according to Yang are in high demand but are also difficult to perfect. As he explains: "The accuracy of these systems depends greatly on context, which is often difficult to handle in a machine setting. Right now, many programmed translations are often intelligible, but not readily usable." "The key to speech recognition," he adds, "is actually not recognition but understanding-understanding what a person is trying to say. That's where real-life settings are most important." To this end, Yang and his associates have brought in dozens of linguists, speech therapists, and other non-technical professionals who truly make ABBYY a multidisciplinary enterprise. Yang expects the upgraded translation system to be ready for market by 2003, covering more than 200 languages, including Armenian. But all of this is mere foreplay for the main attraction in Yang's life today-Cybiko, a cutting-edge internet company which he dreamed up two years ago while lying flat on his back in a US hospital. "Even though ABBYY was really doing well, I had wanted to start something new, and ironically enough, the perfect opportunity came when I had a serious illness in the summer of 1998," Yang notes. "For the first time in my life, I had two weeks where I was doing absolutely nothing because I was sick. I couldn't hold a notebook, cell phone-it was terrible. The doctors confined me and immobilized me, and so I began to come up with ideas for a hand-held communications messager." Specifically, he conjured up a small device that would offer communication links with nearby friends as well as strangers, and it worked so well that he decided to market it. After conducting market research in Russia, Western Europe, and the US, Yang went ahead with product development, guessing that American teens would prove to be a strong customer base. He was right. Beginning in January 1999 with a group of 10 specialists brought over from ABBYY, Yang has expanded Cybiko's operation to include 220 programmers, designers, hardware and software engineers, artists, music composers, and others, all under one roof at the company's development center in Moscow. Sales and marketing efforts involve a smaller staff based in the Chicago suburb of Bloomingdale, Illinois, while mass production takes place in Taiwan, presumably involving the efforts of hundreds more laborers who cheaply produce the product for worldwide distribution-mostly to the US. Like his product, David Yang himself spans multiple, hybrid locations. While Moscow may be his home base, he regularly weaves back and forth between Chicago, Moscow, and Taiwan, seeking to coordinate the business strengths of Russian brainpower, American management, and cheap, Far Eastern labor. There are also plenty of trips to New York and Europe in-between, for while he retains some family ties to Armenia, many of his immediate relatives-including his father and mother-have moved to other countries. Meanwhile, he is fluent in several languages, among them Russian, English, and Armenian, each of which serves him in good stead as he navigates a multicultural existence. Perhaps most important, though, is that David Yang has managed, in this case, to reverse the flow of Russia's new economic geography. With much of Cybiko's product-development taking place in Russia, and with huge sales registering primarily in North America, Yang is combating the stereotype that Russians are great engineers and scientists who have no clue about turning good ideas into successful products. In doing so, he has provided a rare and uplifting triumph in a Russia more known for its collapsing infrastructure, technological backwardness, and heavy-handed business practices than for its cutting-edge entertainment industries. While industry insiders call Yang "unique" and far ahead of the pack, there is hope that he can become a role model for other budding Russian entrepreneurs As for his ethnic attachments, Yang speaks fondly of his experiences growing up in Yerevan, and still calls Armenia "my native country." He also maintains many of his friendships with his former schoolmates, some of whom have since become business colleagues. When the subject turns to Armenia's struggling economy, however, Yang registers serious concern. When I ask if there is anything he can do to help reverse the flow of skilled labor out of the country, he responds in the affirmative: "I think there are definitely things we can do, given our expertise, to assist in Armenia's economic development," he says. "In fact, we're thinking of putting together some sort of group with a laboratory and development center. But so far, it's been difficult to coordinate with the center we have in Moscow. I do have some of my local associates working on the matter, and I expect that eventually we will do some substantial work there." In the meantime, Yang and his colleagues have begun offering support for various Armenian causes, further proof that his desire to assist Armenia is a genuine one. As for the product itself, Cybiko gurus call it a "wireless intertainment system," which basically combines the functions of a Game Boy, a personal digital assistant, and a wireless communicator. As Director of Production Aleksey Logoshin told me, "The key to Cybiko's success is in its combined functions. It's a Game Boy, but with the hardware. It's a Palm Top, but with the wireless functions." Add on a price tag of about $100, and you have a gizmo that has become particularly attractive-and affordable-to American teens. One of the most talked-about features of the toy is that it enables chatting with other users. Coverage is about 50 meters indoors and 100 meters outside, but through a so-called "daisy chain," users can link up with each other over much longer distances. The company expects to sell more than half a million Cybiko toys in North America this year, after selling 300,000 since last September. Yang admits that demand outpaced supply late last year, when the gift-giving season went into full swing and many in the US media branded Cybiko as the year's "must-have" Christmas gift. This summer, the product goes to Mexico and next year to Europe. Yang says he would love to market the product in its birthplace, but with the prevailing hard times economically, demand in Russia is not considered large enough to launch it at present. Cybiko's success also lies in its ongoing communication with users through an interactive Web site-www.cybiko.com. According to Logoshin, Cybiko receives around 40,000 messages on its Web site every day, with the number jumping over 100,000 during the Christmas rush. Nor has Cybiko escaped the interest of international venture capitalists, who over the past year have ploughed millions into the company in search of even greater profits. Yang notes that part of that investment-around $16 million-would be spent on marketing and developing Cybiko-2, a smaller version that will be tailored toward the 20- and 30-something set and could appear next year. As for David Yang, hold on to your hat. It appears that Cybiko is just the beginning of a career that promises to impress, excite, and entertain.
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Koko, welcome to Hye Forum Long time don't see. You're around from Aug 2000?? Did you write the material above yourself? Regards, Armen
