Berj

RFE/RL Armenia Report - 03/02/2001 2 March 2001 NEWS BRIEFS Leader Of Gunmen Acts To Prolong Trial The Armenian media, lawyers and experts continue to debate the postponement of the October 27 trial. The public is also seen to be obsessed with the trial of the gunmen who killed eight high ranking politicians in the Armenian Parliament. But opinions on the decision taken by the judge, Samvel Uzunian to postpone the trial for 25 working days are sharply divided. Some legal experts think that Samvel Uzunian has violated the Criminal Code, others, including some representatives of the prosecutor's team, say that the law was not violated. Judge Samvel Uzunian has tried to act according to all the provisions protecting the legal rights of the defendant, outlined in the criminal code. In Armenian, as well as international legal standards, there are important privileges for the protection of the rights of the defendants. The provision of the Armenian Criminal Code has 26 points outlining the rights and privileges of the defendant, one of which says that the defendant has a right to study the materials of the pre-trial investigation and procedural court actions. There is also a provision allowing the defendant to study all materials of his case after the preliminary investigation is ended. During the court session of February 28, Ashot Sarkissian, the representative of the elder son of Karen Demirchian, Samvel Demirchian, was the only lawyer who asked the court not to give permission to the gang leader Nairi Hunanian to study the case. He claimed that the law has no provision for the rights of the defendant. But the law has clearly outlined the rights of the accused, including the right to study the materials of the investigation and other court procedures. According to Armenian law, the accused person is a defendant when his or her case enters the court, which means that in Hunanian's case judge Uzunian has acted according to the law. The experts who follow the Nairi Hunanian case say that the defendant can use any discrepancy in the actions of the judge to postpone the trial or to refuse to testify. Nairi Hunanian has several other options to prolong the trial even after the final verdict is announced by judge Samvel Uzunian if he finds any mistake in the court procedures. Observers suggest that Nairi Hunanian has already started to use his options. The fact that he asked for additional time (more than one month) to study the case indicates that he will use all necessary steps to prolong and complicate the trial, because he had plenty of time to study all the materials relevant to his trial. Experts say that Nairi Hunanian could have studied the case since last July, when the preliminary investigation ended. Some experts are inclined to think that Nairi Hunanian is knowledgeable enough to use all his options outlined in the Criminal Code to prolong his trial until the Armenian Parliament abolishes capital punishment, a condition that Armenia has to meet as a member of the Council of Europe. (Karine Kalantarian)

MJ, After reading the headline I got an impression that he had a discussion with you over the globalisation issues (kiddin').

LEVON TER-PETROSSIAN: TO GET BACK ON HER FEET, ARMENIA MUST QUIT THE STATE OF AN INTERMEDIATE TERRITORY AND ISOLATION YEREVAN, March 2 (Noyan Tapan). The presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan must find a solution to the Artsax conflict: their meetings create certain ingenuousness, however, they may depreciate the process by failing to achieve result. This opinion was expressed by the first president of Armenia Levon Ter-Petrossian in an interview with correspondent of the Paris-based "Express" newspaper Silvain Pasqier. The translation of the interview was recently published in the Armenian press. In Ter-Petrossian's opinion, one should not restrict himself by summit meetings only: "The foreign ministers of both countries might meet more frequently, it is important today that result should be achieved as soon as possible." He thinks that it is not important who is Azerbaijan's leader - Heidar Aliyev or somebody else, since "long-term solutions are not based on personalities". According to the first president of Armenia, only establishment of peace and liquidation of blockade will allow Armenia to get back on her feet joining regional cooperation with neighbors, including with Turkey. In Ter-Petrossian's opinion, the three countries of the South Caucasus taken separately are of no interest to investors at all, while taken together, with a population of 15 million, "they will ensure influx of foreign investments". As concerns the influence of the military in Armenia, Ter-Petrossian said that in the countries involved in conflicts their influence is normally higher than in other countries, especially in a winning country like Armenia. However, there are no reasons to get worried, since, knowing Armenia's army and its commanders, Ter-Petrossian gives assurances that they are people of reason and "in fact more peace-loving than the authorities themselves." He expressed the opinion that "a real danger comes from the current leaders and their political maximalism. I don't know whether they will ever realize the price of pragmatism or not? In the meantime, the country is losing human resources". According to him, the later compromise is reached, the more unfavorable it is going to be: "In 1998 Armenia could have got better conditions than today. In another year they will be worse." In answer to the question: "Is Robert Kocharian a big realist today?", the former president pointed out: "I don't see any change in him in this aspect." "Earlier we could have convinced the public that our goal was building a "normal" state, when the challenges of the past did not become instruments of our policy. Maybe, it was too early for that. People must learn themselves. It happens so that they forget their own history and repeat old mistakes." Now, according to Levon Ter-Petrossian, political parties are compromised, it is no use searching for well-known people possessing moral properties who could deliver their word to the people. Armenians, who are more prudent than their leaders today, have too many everyday concerns, they cannot create an equivalent public opinion, while mass media "in reality are not independent and they are too weak to oppose government propaganda." In his interview the former president assessed the internal political situation in the country as very dangerous - constant changes are taking place, they "fit subjective rather than objective criteria". "One may change the prime minister four or ten times, but it will not lead Armenia out of the crisis," Ter-Petrossian stressed. Saying that like all former Soviet republics, Armenia also has its difficulties, and the South Caucasus apart from all has its specific problems (such as the Artsax conflict for example), Ter-Petrossian stated that besides victims and mass deportation of refugees, these difficulties caused huge damage to economy, retarded reforms, increased military spending. "In the island called the Transcaucasus, unlike Azerbaijan and Georgia, Armenia has no other gateway to the sea. It has no oil resources. The blockade imposed by Turkey adds to the difficulties. To get back on its feet, the country must quit the state of an intermediate territory and isolation," said Ter-Petrossian. "Express" published the interview during the visit of Armenia's President Robert Kocharian to France (February 12-16). The office of the former president specified that "Silvain Pasqier in reality presented as an interview the thoughts expressed by Levon Ter-Petrossoan during a meeting with the latter that was held in Yerevan in September 2000." *01/-2e c26 $e17 02/03/2001

quote:Originally posted by MosJan: - finely win the Age of empires game - GAro et ko u Hoviki merkna varaketsik indz et xarov , hima el taza xarna helel now my wife is not happy . You palyed 2 hours to die like THIS??? Che Moso jan? About happiness: From the experience of the passed period of my life, for the time being I think it's: "You never know what's gonna make you happy the next moment". Money is very important. But for me it's out of the context of being happy or sad. Money is something you get for being a creative unit in the human society or a given group in that society. You must make the surrounding society to be in need of your ideas, creations, products you make (well this is another topic ) At present, what always makes me realy happy is the squealing of harmonica under some creazy boogy-woogy rithm I'll be listening to that when the appoclypse comes. Children: Only a very small number of human beings can lead a happy life without having children.

quote:Originally posted by Araksya: Gayan? ...you are being too nice to the guys. There are couple things I need to teach you. Don't forget, I lived 3 yrs longer than you did . Stop there Araksya, don't tell her nothing. If she's acting nice I realy can't immagine what acting bad be. [ March 01, 2001: Message edited by: Berj ]

Presently the director of conservatory is Armen Smbatyan, former Culture Minister. I've heard that Mansuryan is out of country, somewhere in France.

quote:Originally posted by Garo: I don't think this post has anything to do in Famous Armenians forum. It'll be moved to Other Forum under category General. How do you know Garo? Maybe he is famous.

AZG GLOBALIZATION AND ARMENIA A Round Table entitled 'Globalization and Armenia - Options and Approaches' was held on Friday at the Armenian National Academy of Sciences under the motto 'Towards Civilizations Dialogue with participation of representatives of virtually all embassies accredited in Armenia, except US, France and Ukraine. The Round Table was sponsored and organized by Iran's embassy in Yerevan and Nerdashnak Ashkhar (World of Harmony) public organization. The Round Table goal was to exchange opinions on Armenia's national security and globalization, what kind of development prospects and threats it may bring to Armenia, its culture and economy. It is also to find an answer whether the government has cultural systems and mechanisms to withstand globalization's threats.

When once asked about his being close to Russian or Armenian culture, he answered:"My every note screems that she is an Armenian".

I know how we gonna end up discussing this topic, so let's just pick a name. Shall it be: 1.Naked Hye Forum 2.Hye naked Forum or 3.Hye Forum naked Garo, do you have the proper software? Armen

quote:Originally posted by bellthecat: 1.Berj, I think it is OK to object to WHAT someone says (or does not say) in a posting, but I don't think it is appropriate to dissect the writing style of someone (especially if they are not native English speakers). This is not a place to post a doctoral thesis - so it is a bit pointless to criticise the construction of a posting as if it were one! 2.Actually I found your words rather disturbing - as if you implied that it was now normal for academics (like politicians) to write their works with the active intention to deceive "amateur" people by slight of hand (or language). I hope it is NOT normal amongst academics. 3.Bringing up the Phrygian issue is a little bit like nit-picking, considering that most Armenian books also state the same (false) thing about Armenian origin. As to the point about displaying alleged neutrality - nobody is neutral - I am not neutral to deceptions, and I hope I can always recognise them! Steve Dear Steve, 1. As you can trace in my postings, I'm not a native English speaker either. Moreover, I've never been to any English speaking country and had a very limited experience with native speakers, so I think we're equal in this with Mr.Suat. Anyway, you can review Ali's posts in their original shape in the Genocide topic and see what impression you will get. But, as we agreed before this is not a place for professional discussions, so I will stop this tiresome undertaking of mine. 2.Exactly. Because you later found my words rather disturbing, I found it necessary to invite your attention to the problem of writing style or technique. In general, I evaluate (surely for myself) a writing as a professional or non-professional by making sure that a constant logic chain exists in that writing. If it exists, than the author was really trying to make a point (actually, the summary of the point to be made is usually given under the headline or title, which makes possible to trace the point from the start to the end). If I don't find that chain, I'm starting to search for other things the writing was ment to"prove". How to trace a logic chain in a given writing: 1. Find the target point of the writing and try to relate every paragraph or even sentence to that point (if you don’t find the point, there is no point). 2. If the chain gets cut, find the explanation of its cutting in the following paragraph. Make sure that the following part was worthy of cutting the logic chain. And the most important! If you consider yourself an intellectual, you must get a “BRAIN ORGAZM” (man that was a hell of a phrase) after you have read a serious professional writing (on any subject). 3.Let's discuss this in the History thread. Armen P.S. “Brain Orgazm®”-a Hye Forum phrase, All rights reserved. Copyright “Berj”

quote:Originally posted by Araksya: And don't start me with philosophy, I can go on forever. Be so kind... Limited love is not love. It's either sex or business. P.S. Welcome

Hold your horses birdy!

quote:Originally posted by aurguplu: Dear Berj, (by the way, is your name berj or armen? i would like to refer to you by your name, if you permit) Dear Ali, My name is Armen Thanks for caring about that. Armen

Ali, I will move on with my "study" of your previous postings in the Genocide threat to show you the parts which triggered my suspicion about your writing technique. ARGUMENTS BASED ON FACTS quote:1.By the way, one mistake you made in one of your past contributions: you said you guys have been living in Anatolia for 2,000 years. I beg to differ: you probably were part of the Sea Peoples who destroyed the Hittite Empire at around 1200 BC. There is a region called Moesia in Thrace, and Mysia in Anatolia, referring to the same ethnonym andclearly showing the eastward migration of an Indo-European people about 1200 BC, at about the time of the Trojan War. In fact, Greek history talks about the Phrygians moving into Anatolia from the Balkans at shortly before the Trojan war. Ali, you're using the phrase "clearly showing". I do not consider myself a historian, but I studied history and what alaways amased me in the way historians "prove facts" is that they find 2 words sounding similar and claim a fact basing on this. Let me show you an example. There is a city in Colombia called "Armenia", which was founded by 20-30 Armenian immigrants. Basing on the logic of hiastorians, all Colombians are Armenians. The fact of migration of Indo-Europeans eastward from the Balcans has 1% of possibility, only because any possibility should be considered while studying history. If it proves true, it will be the only case on the Eurasian continent when an ethnic group migrated to the south-west from its original location. Only in case of conqueststhere was a movement to the east or south east (Alexander the Great's conquest of Asia Minor, Arabic conquest of Central Asia). Now compare this to the mass migration of each and every tribe from the Great Steppe to the south-west. Estimate the persentage of the possibility of the migration of Indo-Europeans from rich-soiled Balcans to Anatolia or to the landlocked Armenian plateau (not a very good place for agriculure). Now, why it rasied my suspicion? Because it says:"You guys migrated too, so you don't have a right to claim any land as historically yours". True from some point of view. Very valid for the Americans. Sorry, but your mentioning is as a "clear fact" in this kind of sensetive debate can give us a basis to question your other opinions and comments, a lot of which have possibility to br true. However, I strongly believe we didn't migrate form anywere, maybe some 10km quote: 2. The name of the Phrygians comes from “Bryg” and means “brigand”, this word in English comes ultimately from the same Indo-European root. The Phrygians were referred to as “Muski” by the Hittites, the identity of this with Mysian and Moesian is clear. Now a very interesting point: Herodotus describes Armenians as Phrygian colonists, and the Georgians call the Armenians “(Sa)mekhi”. Now Herodotus is not normally considered to be a reliable source, but the Georgian parallel is interesting. Same appies to this part. The Georgian parallel is in fact very interesting. They do call us Somekhi for the people and SomKHETTI for the country. They also call their Armenian populated povince of Javaghq (in Armenian) JavaKHETTI. And also, the other southwest province on the border with Armenia is called KaKHETTI, and people there look more like Armenians (short height, Armenoid round scull, mostly dark haired) than Georgians (tall, light haired...). Considering that KHETTI sounds very similar to HITTI, can we claim that the Hittide kingdom was an Armenian one. quote:If this were all we knew, we would be perfectly justified to pronounce the Armenians as Phrygians, but unfortunately history is not so simple: the Phrygian language has survived in writing, albeit in an ossified form and scant, formulaic remains, until the 3rd Century AD, and what little we know of the language still causes fierce debate amongst historical linguists: originally thought to be a member of the Hittite-Luwian subgroup of Indo-European, it is now commonly thought to be distantly related to the extinct Thraco-Dacian and probably Illyrian (whose only surviving member is Albanian), but the scant remains show a language very different from Armenian. This is probably for three reasons: the Phrygian that we know from the inscriptions was a dead liturgical language already by late Antiquity, and doesn’t reflect the subsequent developments of the spoken language, and Armenian was first written down by Movses of Khorene in the 5th Century AD (if I am not mistaken, I am again writing this from my office.). So there is a time-gap of about ten Centuries, during which time Armenian was very heavily influenced by Hittite, Iranian and non-Indo European Urartu and other Caucasian languages. Armenian was so heavily influenced by these languages that its affiliation to the Indo-European was long a matter of dispute. Linguists had a hard time finding the correspondence between Armenian erku and English two, to cite just one example. Ali, I believe you're familiar with the research of Boris Piotrovski. We can discuss his writings in "Urartu, or just Ararat" topic in the History thread. I also think that have read lot of books on Urartian kingdom with 99% footnote referrals to Piotrovski. That's because his study of Urartian language is the only one until now. His study gave a basis to Soviet communist historians to conclude the "Urartu history" part of the Soveit History textbook with the sentence "The fraternal nations of Armenia, Georgia and Azrebaijan are the true inherits of Urartian civilsation". But let's discuss this in the appropriate threat I mentioned. So, you see these are isolated examples from your postings, but under the Genocide topic they are "arguments" which as you have said "are mutating Genocide into something else". Regards, Armen [ February 21, 2001: Message edited by: Berj ]

quote: Berj; As stated before, I am not a denialist, and will accept arguments provided that they are based on facts and persuasively argued. This doesn't mean that I will accept anything put in front of me. Ali, Thank you for your answer. My evaluation of your postings in this forum as semi-professional is based on the FACT that there is no footnote reference (I know it sounds ridiculous to provide them in an internet forum) to each and every fact or comment you provide. In professional historic or political study it is a must. Arguments based on facts: I will reply to this in my next entry. quote: I am not an agent employed by the Turkish state, nor am I a self-styled defendant of the Turkish position. There are enough of them around, and some of them even visited your website (RAVEN). You don't need any more of this. Considering that Raven's postings in this discussions were a nightmare of illogicality, feel free to express any opinion. Your level gives you the full right to do so. quote I hope that Turkish government does the same: accept that it was a genocide and then start the discussion on relating issues. I think I understand why you mentioned the inner clique of CUP as a decission maker. I suggest that we leave this aside and return to it later sometime. quote:If I got the rest of your message correctly, you think that I am trying to put up a nice face, move your attention from genocide by arguments & topics not really relevant to it, and then perhaps deal with the genocide issue on my own ground, hoping for a victory, or let it die out in the ensuing debates about everything under the sun save genocide. No. But I do get your point that we did stray from the main subject, and I shall be back to it in my future postings. Thanks for the warning, though. No more Phrygians. They are irrelevant to the topic and difficult to spell anyway. Your reply defused my suspicion. But I will keep an eye on it (sorry for this) as we are having a sensetive debate. I suggest you to do the same towards us, because some of us drift often as well. quote Will appreciate. Armen

quote:Originally posted by Sulamita: Im sepakan bujumn asem ara. Amen 4 jam@ mek, limonov yev meghrov tey (nax@ntreli e busakan) ... isk or@ 3 angam havi soup. Havastiatsnum em maximum 4 orits aroghj klines MosJan, Asenq zhami 8-in zartnar. 8-ic 12-@ (khosqi et zhmin qnar) 4 hat 4 zham ka vori @ntacqum 4 angam piti verohishyal tey@ khmes. Tey limonov ev meghrov: - tea bag (asenq Lipton)-mek arkgh@ 10$ : 20 hati= 0.5$ hat@ - 1 hat limon@ mot 0.5$, ete ktres, mi ktratst karzhena mot 0.07$ (ete barak ktres) - meghri 1 bankan mot 10$-a. Mek havesov gdal@ achkis kani gdeto eli 0.5$ @ndamen@: .0.5$+0.07$+0.5$=1.07$ @nhanur: 1.07$ x 4 (qani vor orekan 4 angam piti khmes)= 4.28$ Busakanov chem hashvum vapshe kqashvenq. Havi soup: 1 jigyarov havn arzhi 15$ kartofil (parza Qyavari)- 300gm = mot 1.3$ sokh - 70gm = 0.12$ petrushka - 100 gm = 0.05$ @ndamen@ =16.47$ @ndhanur = 16.47$ (qcenq orakan 1 kastryulka soup@ heriqec) Qani vor buzhman kurs@ tevuma 4 or tey@ 4.28$ x 4= 17.12 4 orva @ntacqum 4 hat havi soup x 16.47 = 65.88 Grand total: 17.12$+65.88$=83$ Hmi qcenq tarekan 5 angam senc hivandacar: 83 x 5=415$ Karogha giteq es forum@ pogh a ktrum. Moso jan, @tenc parki sagh inqniran kancni, u voch meki chlses

Those who think the quotings are becoming out of context by being examined in this way can read Mr.Suat's original postings in the Genocide thread.

I found it necessary to raise this issue in the light of the recent shift in the character of the Genocide topic from amateur to semi-professional level. Those of you who deal with academic researches in history or related humanities are surely familiar with the writing techniques which are being applied by historians, as well as journalists, political analysts etc. However, cosidering the free involvement and the open character of this forum, and the fact that it can be used as a propaganda machine, I would like to bring to the attention of this forum's members with natural sciences' background to some sentences in Mr.Ali Suat's postings. Shortly on the techniques applied in this kind of writings. The first and formost goal of the writer is to show neutrality on the discussed issue, so as to be able to set initial favourable conditions for the possibly or obviously antagonised (depends on the final goal of the article, study etc.) part of the readers to accept his opinion. A very powerful writing tool is the method of general or detailed elaboration applied in necessary context, which can conceal or reveal important points in the logical chain of an argument. Another writing tool is the method of "inforced" focusing on true but unimporatant large amounts of text, which are aimed at flavoring the small-false-important paragraphes of the writing. Here are some quotes from Mr.Ali Suat's postings I wanted to focus on. quote Here is the part saying "I'm neutral". (Obviously I don't have any arguments to claim it's falseness) quote:Now we all know that a number of Armenians who had lived with the Turks and Kurds side by side and had cordial relations with them had entrusted their children with their neighbours. One still hears in territorial disputes in eastern Anatolia, when arguments get heated “after all, your grandfather was Armenian” “so what, so was your grandmother” and so on. The second fact, never mentioned aloud in Turkey, is that an enormous number of those deported, and later pronounced dead on the grounds that they failed to show up, actually survived. Given the very delicate – and potentially explosive – nature of the subject it can never be discussed freely in Turkey at the moment, but you keep hearing such things from so many diverse places in Turkey, and in such numbers, that you come to suspect that an enormous number – probably in the realm of well over a hundred thousand – of the “dead” are alive and kicking after all. Allow me to write a few lines more on this: An enormous number of the Kurdish tribes in the east – and a similar number of Turkish settlements, notably in east Anatolia, in the Taurus mountains, in and around Adana – notably Kozan -, probably in some regions of the Black Sea – in the east, around Rize, Trabzon, Gumushhane, in the west, around Kastamonu, sporadic places in the Aegean and Marmara regions, had, until recently, a very large number of men and women in their late 80s and 90s who are of Armenian origin, who (or whose families) had converted to Islam after their return from the deportations. I myself have heard from many east Anatolian Turks (less from Kurds, they don’t like to talk about it) that their grand-grandmother-father, distant cousin, or whatever, was of Armenian origin. Quite a few villages in the east are wholly of Armenian origin but Muslim now. Usually it is impossible to physically distinguish the different ethnicities from a given region in Anatolia, but it was possible to distinguish people of whatever origin who came from diverse regions. Thus, you cannot distinguish an Armenian from Elazýg (Mamuretul Aziz in Ottoman) from a Turk or a Kurd from the same city, but if you supplant that Armenian to a Turkmen tribe in the Taurus mountains, who are physically distinct from the rest of Anatolians, the physical differences are pretty obvious. Turkmens are a very strange lot physically: middle height, white skin, Asian features (high cheekbones, slanted eyes), green eyes, and brown to blond hair. They speak a more Central-Asian sounding Turkish, but their features are an interesting mixture of the Caucasian and Mongol races, and they certainly don’t look a bit like the Armenians. They are known to have saved entire Armenian villages from the deportations, and the descendants of these are still visible. Also, I heard very interesting stories from quite a few people from the localities where the deportations and killings occurred. I shall “reconstruct” the main features of them below, personal names, and place-names and other details are mine: Ersis is a predominantly Armenian town in east Anatolia. They have good relations with their Muslim neighbours. One day news of the deportations reach the city, so they prepare for it: they sell everything they could (save the immovables), convert it into gold, which they bury in several different places in and around the town before the deportations. The entire city, of course, knows where the gold is buried. Then they get deported. When the killings start, Dikran turns tail to save his own family and tells the Turks – or Kurds – that he can give them valuable info if they let him and his family escape. The Turks – or Kurds – agree. Dikran asks that he and the male members of his family be circumcised, which is done, and receives the name “Dilaver”. “Dilaver” gives the authorities the locations of some (not all) of the hoards on a map, then makes off. With his new identity, he goes back to the village, digs up the rest, and builds himself a new life as a Turk in the newly established Republic of Turkey. He and his family don’t suffer much from the cultural shock, because Turkey then has officially rejected Islam, severed its ties with the past (to the point of changing the alphabet), the mosque is all but banned, the veil, although never actually illegal, is most strongly discouraged so his wife and daughters don’t have to wear one, he can drink, do his own trade etc, and is fully assimilated into Turkish society. His children go to University, some become doctors, some engineers, some businessmen, marry Turkish women (“Dilaver” never makes the mistake of looking for other Armenian families whom he knows did the same), and are still alive and kicking and rich, and members of the Turkish elite. Kozan is another Anatolian town, where the Armenians are a significant minority. Killings and deportations are rampant. Boghos ends up in the deportations with his family. He bribes the officials the same way to save his family & himself. He comes back after the deportations with his new identity. The goods of the Armenians, together with the land, are being distributed to the poor Anatolian peasants and to the Balkan Muslim refugees. Preference is given to those who can make good use of the land, and who have some inkling of trade. Besides, money opens all doors. Boghos then digs up his own hoard of gold that he had buried some place, not forgetting that of his neighbour Levon, who – what a pity – had perished with all his family somewhere in Syria. Boghos (now Bekir, a proper Muslim name) then starts to buy land. The land that he buys is not the best for cultivation, nor is it particularly close to town, or suitable for the latter expansion of the city, but it is the place where most of the remaining gold is buried. He sells most (not all) of the gold, then buys some land just outside the city, this time in the regions where he anticipates (a euphemism for “he knows, as he has bribed the Turkish administration beforehand”) the city will expand. When this happens, and the place is declared as the site of economic expansion, he either sells the land to would-be entrepreneurs, or gets credit from the state itself and sets up his own textile plant. Faik is a Turkish officer on duty in Adana during the deportations. He doesn’t have a personal grudge to the Armenians, and like most of the rest of the officers, has no idea what the CUP is up to. He suddenly finds himself heading a group of deportees to Syria, and has already heard of the stories of the fate of the previous deportees en route. He is given control of the caravan, and he knows that most of his men are civilised and would rather not take part in the crimes. Besides, there is an attractive young lady called Gayane and her family among the deportees, who, in addition to her looks, is also well educated, can play the piano, and appreciates painting (Faik studied painting while a cadet) and Faik enjoys his conversations with Gayane and her family, who also appreciate the young man’s civility, education and ideals. Faik, together with some of his closest colleagues, decides that they have to do something to save the deportees, and tells this to Gayane’s family. There are very few things money cannot do, and buying freedom for prisoners is not one of them. Gayane’s family trusts Faik and his colleagues, and tells them the place where their community buried the gold. Faik gets the gold. At some place en route, a Kurdish tribe blocks the way and demands that the prisoners be given as ransom for passage. They agree, give over the prisoners, who are destined to be sold, then recover them from the slave market with their own money. Had the Armenians themselves attempted to do this, their money would be taken and they would still have ended up as prisoners. Faik and her colleagues then set the prisoners free. Gayane chooses to stay and becomes Gaye (a Muslim name) of her own accord (her family mumbles and grumbles about this, but not more than that), and marries Faik. The family still lives in Turkey, but obviously with a different surname. Karekin was an Armenian from Kozan near Adana, and he had very good relations with the there resident Turkish tribe, a branch of the Afshar confederation. That branch had some quarrel with some Sultan way back, and the entire branch was deported to Cyprus, a well-known fact. What is not so well known was that the Armenians who sided with them were also deported. About fifty years later, the war erupts, the Ottoman Empire crumbles, and the new Republic emerges. Cyprus is a British protectorate, and a descendant of Karekin (the family had recently become Muslim) with a half Turkish-half Arabic name comes to Turkey, enrolls at the military school, throws the Arabic component away from his name and adopts a fully Turkic name of a past Turkish hero, has a brilliant military career, gets mixed up in one of the numerous military interventions in Turkey, and after return to democracy, enters politics and spends the rest of his life as a major right-wing figure in Turkish politics. Some of the rest of his family are still Armenian, though, a fact which surprises their various neighbours greatly, given the political persuasion of the person in question. Who are these people? In this part the author describes the cases of possible assimilation of Armenians deducting them from the alleged number of killed, without mentioning what is a Genocide. Read below: "U.N.T.S. No. 1021, vol. 78 (1951), p. 277 CONVENTION ON THE PREVENTION AND PUNISHMENT OF THE CRIME OF GENOCIDE Art. 2. In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; ( Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;..." Here comes the traditional Turkish argument that "there was a War which Armenians did not survive". Then how comes that in 1871 Berlin congress the European nations were demanding Turkey to give more rights to a nation that had a enough national identity for having rights and even inner boundaries in Turkey, and which dissapeared between 1915-1923. More to come...

Mos Jan, du karas mardu infarkti hascnes. Es verjin nkarn incha??? Predstavitelski "Zaparozhec" te artadrakan mutant Kndaluc mera. Hla chishta asa meqena eir nayum, te...