THOTH

Thanks for the review - thoguh this isn't the cat I'm interested in. I alos think the review might be somewhat biased - though certain elements are fairly acurate (still have not test drove that particualr car - was suppoesd to on Saturday but took out the 330i instead). The car I'm interested in is th S40. And this is a completely different beast. Its underpinnings are the next gen Ford fucus 3 from Europe - same as the new Mazda 3. Don't laugh - its an awesome platform and totally un-Volvo. Comparo tests have it beating out the Audi A4 and being comperable to the BMW 330 (and better then the AWD 330)...and it has AWD. Here are some reviews of the S40 (note not all are of the hopped up T5 AWD version that I'm planning to get) http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?http://www.a...ry.php?id=44028 http://www.edmunds.com/future/2005/volvo/s...ws.leftbanner.1 http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?...0&sid=183&n=157 http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=6667 http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?por...t_code=08839262 and perhaps the best review - certainly most comprehensive - http://www.channel4.co.uk/apps26/4car/jsp/..._2&reviewid=833 Here is the official US site for the S40...(pretty cool) http://www.allnews40.com/ Its going to be a fine car - believe me - a true 3 series competitor IMO...and unlike any Volvo ever made before...

Well hopefuly you'll have enough time to notice that theyhave the power tools before the figure out how to start them up - etc....

This is a complicated issue really - and is very dependent on the couple, their maturity, and even how long they have been together before children. And many have made some nice insites already I should add... Many couples go into a relationship where they are in love and are pretty much into the one on one relationship. A child can upset this - particualrly if the realtionship hasn't had enough time. Fathers can get resentlful of the attention being redirected towards the baby and mothers will tend to spend more effort on the abythen on the relationship with the husaband after the child is born. Obviously when both parents are focused and into the child this is lessened and it can become a means of briging a couple closer - but this is why I think that havbing the baby at the proper time tis important (ie not too soon...let the one on one relationship haveits period)...anyway all this is based on observations I have made - mostly concerning other folks - but also to some degree with my own marraifge and family. We married in our late 20s after having dated for a few years and then still waited about 4 years for children. So for us it wasnt such an issue - and being able to be a bit independent is also helpful I think. But yes - there were certain negative aspects to haveing a baby around concerning the maritial relationship..certainly...(and I'll leave these to your own thinking here ..LOL)...but overall - as we had always planned for kids and were ready - having children has been great - and in most respects has not affected our relationship one way or another per se...at least as far as I can determine....

Nice thought Bruin but it seems to me that you are more describing national physical fitness day or some such...for Valentines Day i would think that at least a little kissing must be involved eh? HAPPY VALENTINES DAY SWEETS!

If you loved percussion you would have loved the west African dance we went too today...(got to admit the rythms were very sensuous...etc)....I'm sure you wouldnt have minded all the taught bods either ..LOL

agreed - all I am saying is that - while of course there is value in identifying the chemnical & pheronal elements or what have you - which are very real and have prounouced/significant effects- to believe that these things are the determinaers of attraction (even if again significant factors) and that this is any way is really any (serious) commentary about love...well I find it lacking - thats all...agreed perhaps BS was too strong..it was a gut reaction...

No that would be holistic mafia

exactly...though I thought the thing about release of oxytocin during mutual orgasm to be interesting..and as having actually experienced such (and the afterglow in general - and what could be better IMO..something certainly in and of itself to live for...etc)...well there is certainly something there...

Well maybe so - though it appears that you are expressing disatisfaction and perhaps even intolerance (of slow old people at least...haven't you heard or passing..or if not possible - patience)...LOL..anyway just messing with you..but in my mind a good christian is someone who is less concerned with his own situation and is more concerned with that of others...or am I reading the wrong passages perhaps?

Stormy - I hate to say it but that preceeding article is just so much bullshit. LOL Sure pehraps interesting on a leel, but thhe little that it actually addresses attraction (as it is far more then biochemical - and this shoudl be obvious) - does not counter the fact that it not at all addresses actual love (of any real variety) or anything about it. This artical has nothing at all to do with love whatsoever..sorry...but OK perhaps interesting for what it is worth...but it is no commentary on love...IMO

Don't hold your breath - its not possible - we've already seen the breadth of his act - and it isn't at all original, amusing or entertaining in any way....yeah yawn fer sure...

Aww poor gevo...I think you are taking things too seriously...lighten up a bit eh - and be thankful that you are alive - and not starving or cold and poor, or being abducted and raped somewhere - etc etc - things could be much worse... As for me - I am feeling great today! My wife was very appreciative of all the many nice things and beautiful flowers I got for her today...and in my enthusiam at celebrating this day of love! LOL ...and we recently got back from a nice early dinner and a nice show - some West African voudun drummers & dancers (very hot! ...great rythms & movement and nice eye candy for the ladies - LOL)...so wifey is now sleeping it off! LOL ANd also had fun out on the road (as usual) - toyed with some wannah be ravcer in a G35 coup..cameup on him as he was toying with some BMW...proceeded to (easily/without effort) match him move for move through traffic before blowing him off (big time...and man was he already all nervous - as I could tell by his manuevers with me (in the wagon! LOL) right on his tail - unable to shake me - and then to see me blow by him such like he was standing still - yet under his full acceleration - LOL)and I left him well behind struggling to catch up! LOL...ah the little joys...also I test drove a 330i Bmer (w/performance package) earlier this morning and came to the decsion that yes I could live with this car, if forced...LOL So unlike you gevo..the day is only about 2/3 done (and yes quite a busy one...) and I feel very happy & fuflfiled...now I am working with my youngest son designing and fabricating a cool Hopi Kachina mask for his class project Taking a little break of course..)...Its going to be way cool (very radical!)..and I have got some great inspiration form the awesome African masks from the dance....speaking of - while watching the wonderful African voudun dances/dancers - it crossed my mind - once again - how very wrong (and terrible) christianity is - on so many levels...besides being not so much fun...that tribal peoples such as this - so full fo life and the joy of it - are somehow condemned to hell because they have no concept of christ or need or desire to be saved..etc etc...such a vain and terrible god is he...yeah what can I say..these thoughts certainly did cross my mind...

Yes den what can I say...I find yoru persepctive on things to be very boringly narrow. yoru quite a one trick pony...but stray form your amusing and clever little "proofs" and its clear the very many areas in which you are lacking.

I admit - I find your presence on this board highly annoying. And that you would claim that I post useless garbage on various threads or am the one going at you (thats a laugh)...seems to me the last few days you haven't been able to kkep from taking swipes at me - and I have deliberatly not done so regarding yourself. So be it. Yes - your a rodent - or generally just a pest...

No I won't get into an argument. These lower mamals are hardly worth it... And Im chill - what do I care. BTW I have degrees in Politcal Science and (Political) Anthropology..and I have worked for several Congressional Commitees (and no - never as a page)...I have friends involved in Politics - here and in other countries - (that I discuss these various issues with) and I do in fact have more then a little practical knowledge and experience beyond the theoretical (that may be of interest for argumetn but has negligible utility in the real world). I'm not saying that none of you have anything worthwhile to say and that you don't know things that I don't (and many of the old timers have much to offer as well - in many cases beyond my knwledge - certainly in soem areas..etc) - or that I couldn't learn form any of you as well (and I sometimes do certainly)...but by and large its not really worth my time (what can I say - i know how it sounds..but sorry can't help theat - just nbeign honest) as most of you just don't have the foundation yet (or perhaps its just attitude...don't know...) to truly understand many things (as has been made aparent) - and I also do not think that all here are really interested in much besides spouting off on their own tangents of questionable utility and interest. So no - I don't buy your arguments and neither do I care to engage in useless mudslinging...

Don't pretend to talk about something you know nothing about - being a real man.

Well girls....isn't he just someone to love eh? most sad...(and again clueless..what can i say...i know that i over use it...but it rings so true...)

So what happens - they find the "right" girl - what then? She'll want notning to dow ith them - guarenteed..I mean talk of falling in laps & such - it just doesnt happen that way...they will be all ga ga perhaps and she'll say "later" as they havent learned the first thing about treating a lady right...thats my take on it anyway...could be wrong - sure - but I'd be willing to lay odds...

Well what can I say, snow white was never know for her wisdom when it came to making decisions for her (long term) best interests...sure mouse play can entertain for a time...but eventually a princess must think of princes and realize that rodents are in general a dirty lot...

What? Shame on you!

angel I'm more chill then you could ever imagine...anyway....

LOL - well yeah - because you said so Oh & BTW - #6 - your actually making a bit of sense in this thread...good for you...guess graduating Uni as a teenager means something after all eh? (yeah I'm impressed...LOL) Peace

Whatever THOTH Feels like..... We love THOTH Forever... Worship THOTH Forever.. When THOTH Farts we listen... I don't know really - what do you think?

true true No...love is not so one dimensional...(well for some maybe it is...and too bad for them....)

You tell 'em Archer...one gal with soem (man) sense around here..in an otherwise (very) sensible bunch!