Harut

well, the rich are thinking lower taxes, and poor are thinking religious fanaticism

bush: 246 kerry: 216 on npr

mi ban kasei, bayts yerevi heto Movses@ katsinov hetevitss ga...

yah, it has come down just to ohio, it seems.

right now i'm listening to c-span, which takes live calls from people around the country... i've come to a conclusion... americans deserve (in the negative notation) bush.

all these polls are just bs... cnn reports for ohio... by gender... women: kerry: 53% bush: 47% men: kerry: 51% bush: 49% in total kerry: 48% bush: 52% wtf?

4. work 5. thing 4. work -> banvor (worker), banel (to work) 5. de ban eli... el vonts batsatrem.

and for the first time, a thread (at least parts of it) might be moved from humor to other forums, as opposed to the other way around.

since everyone is too offtopic... չէ/[che] more precisely translates not into no, but into isn't. this form of negation can be found in a number of languages (irish comes to mind). btw, this has been discussed at least once before in the forum. for all of interested, i'd suggest search and read it... and post a link here.... so i can refresh my memory too.

three ex-soviet countries eh? i hope they armenians keep up the strong chess culture that was strengthened in the last decades. btw, see what's happening with a former world champion... ============= Court Documents Exchanged in Fischer Case TOKYO - Defense attorneys and prosecutors exchanged documents Tuesday in the first court hearing on detained former chess champion Bobby Fischer's battle against deportation to the United States. Fischer, who is wanted in the United States on charges of violating international sanctions against Yugoslavia, has filed a lawsuit against an order to deport him. He has been detained by Japanese authorities since July 13. During the brief court session, the attorneys exchanged documents containing their arguments and evidence. The next session was scheduled for Jan. 29. Fischer is accused of violating international sanctions when he played a rematch in Yugoslavia in 1992 against longtime rival Boris Spassky. He won and took home $3.5 million in prize money. The Tokyo District Court issued an injunction in September against Fischer's deportation order while judges hear his lawsuit. His supporters say the case could take about a year to resolve. Fischer was taken into custody when he tried to board a flight for the Philippines with an invalid passport. He has claimed that U.S. officials had revoked his passport without following due process. Fischer has, through his supporters, denounced the deportation order as politically motivated. He has said he wants to renounce his U.S. citizenship and is taking steps to marry a Japanese chess official, Miyoko Watai. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a...bobby_fischer_1

abstinence ok, sorry. apparently it's a bad day for me to talk.

i won't go into philosophical details... will just point out that it DOES matter. if i was john kerry, my resume wouldn't be better than bush's, for example...

faulty logic...

ok, Gevo, so what was your answer? what was the difference? i honestly didn't get it.

Շինծու է ամեն ինչ, սուտ է ամեն ինչ՝ և՛ գործերս, և՛ փորձերս, և՛ մտքերս:

Որ մարդ էշ չլիներ՝ Էշի գինը միլլիոն կլիներ:

Եվ մարդը տոկուն, Ցավին դիմացկուն, Քրտինքը ճակտին, Մեծ բեռը մեջքին, Հապճեպ քայլերով, Հեռուն նայելով, Անցյալը հիշում, Ապագան սիրում... Առաջ է շարժվում...

it is very interesting to see how some of you took the topic in spiritual, some in scientific, some in practical, some in philosophical directions.

thanks for the input. this all makes sense. as for 'sagh' being turkish, i should have guessed, at least from 'sagh-salamat'.

also we can fly airplane and they can't. (sorry) what i'm trying to find is more fundamental. like, but why is that we can control them and not vis versa? it is not that we have an encoded ability to do so, is it? there is something else that over time brought us to a point that we are able to do so.

this is not a book that i read, but a small poetry, but i read it every week. each time it has a new meaning to me as i advance through the stages of life. it's an entire lifetime in 20 lines. Մուշեղ Իշխան Տարօրինակ, տարօրինակ մարդ արարած Մոմի լոյսով՝ խաւարի մէջ համատարած Կը հալածես դու տեսիլքներ արեւավառ Կը խարխափես բայց խաւարին չես հաւատար։ Արցունքներիդ միգամածին խորէն տմոյն Գիտես նայել արշալոյսի ճաճանչներին Սգի քօղի տակ յուսալից դու սիրահար՝ Կը տառապես եւ վշտերիդ չես հաւատար։ Վզիդ շղթայ եւ թեւերիդ ծանր կապանք՝ Դու կը փորձես արծիւներին վայել ճախրանք Եւ այս կեանքի մեծ բանտի մէջ բազմակամար Դու կը խեղդուես՝ շղթաներիդ չես հաւատար։ Փուշ ու տատասկ քեզ կ՚արիւնեն ճամբիդ վրայ, Բայց խոցոտուած քո մատներով արիւնլուայ Դու կ՚որոնես ծաղիկների հոգին պայծառ, Ցաւից կ՚ոռնաս եւ ցաւերիդ չես հաւատար։ Տարօրինակ, տարօրինակ մարդ արարած Քո ձեռքերով հողին կը տաս կեանքեր ծաղկած, Կը զգաս դէմքիդ մահուան քամին եւ հողմավար Կ՚ընկնես անշունչ, սակայն մահուան չես հաւատար։ http://armenianpoetry.com/arm/1080.html

an interesting conencidence? or it ought have been like that, and i'm missing the obvious Ողջ/[voghj] means the entire. it also means alive, living. the same way, սաղ/[sagh] means the entire, and also means alive, living. i could go on the path of the speculations (i.e., when a person lives s/he is a whole and alive, when dies a part of him/her is separated (soul?). or the lifespan of beings is the entire that there is to be. etc.), but not tonight...

the only thing that i see that separates us from the rest is the ability to learn, to invant, and to pass it to the future generations. while language played a crutial role and seems to be the difference (see my title, Mard U Anasun), i believe what i mentioned above played a greater role. though, of course, the former would have been impossible without the former. maybe a more articulated essay later...

what is the essential difference between the human being and the rest of the animals? what sets us apart and so rapidly diverges us from the rest of the livings. IS there any fundamental difference? or this andropocentric perseption of life is just an illusion?

i know we are getting diverted from arm101, but here.... Արարիչ Բովանդակ Գոյության Դատավոր Երկնային Զորավոր Էություն Ըստ հուն Թագավոր` Ժամանակի Իրերի Լույսի Խավարի Ծովի Կենդանիների Համայնի Ձայն Ղողանջող Ճեմարան Մտաց Յիսուս Նազովրեցի Շնորհ Ոգեշունչ Չարին Պատժող Ջանասեր Ռաբբի Սրբոց Վկա Տեր Մեր Ցանկալի ՈՒ Փառքի Քրիստոս: