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You have obviously never had Robert Dornan as your Congressman.

Here goes my death warrant. Diarbekir.

Armenian Prime Minister Dies YEREVAN, Armenia, March 25 (UPI) -- Armenian Prime Minister Andranik Margaryan died of a heart attack Sunday in Yerevan at the age of 55. Margaryan`s death was confirmed by Mery Arutyunyan, head of the government press service, Russia`s Itar-Tass news agency reported. Margaryan had been Armenian`s prime minister since May 2000. He is survived by his wife, three children and five grandchildren

What is more critical than not putting a cross on the roof (why are Armenians so hung up on the cross?) is that many historic Armenian motifs, both religious and cultural, were destoyed during the so-called restoration. It was not done sensitively per ICOMOS standards with skilled restoration architects. Mind you there are no competent architects in the ROA to do this type of work either. Instead of belly-aching about the lack of competent historic work, why is the Armenian community only concerned about the cross?

It is in what is now southeastern Turkey, near the Syrian border. Unfortunately, I fear to pinpoint the exact location of the church even though I am very familiar with it and its state of disrepair. One day after I retire I may try to get it restored. I fear not only Turks in this Forum but also Armenians, as I have revealed my underlying bisexuality here. Have only been with women for the past 25 years, but you can not underestimate the vehemence of the so-called Christians who now run America (this includes some Armenians). Who will kill me first, fanatically nationalistic Turks or fanatic Christian fundamentalists?

Harut does not have to stir the pot. I am a student of Turkish architecture who realizes that there are many positive things that have come out of the Turkish Empire and Turkey. Turkey could end all this resentment very quickly if she dropped her resistance and began to treat those of us in the diaspora as human beings.

I am not related to him, as far as I know. He is a great Armenian patriot. I would enthusiastically support him if he ever ran for political office eithter in the USA or the ROA.

Moshe was not a nick, but what Gamavor called me. I look nothing like Liberace, nor do I practice his lifestyle. I live the quiet life of a scholar and have not been intimate with anyone but my ex-wife and one girlfiend for over 25 years. So cut the KAKA, OK Edward.

So many churches within Turkey have either collapsed or are in a state of disrepair. The Armenian church for which my great-grandfather financed a total renovation is in a total state of disrepair. Why are you blaming Harut for the botch job? Turkish architects are not skilled in this specialty. Neither are Armenian architects. Any decent restoration is done (in competence order by the French, British or American) architects. I hope that the ROA will not botch our heritage either

Harut is one of my heros. His brother went about things the wrong way, but he is doing it the right way.

Americans believe that anything French is classy and chic. Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis was an American idol who wowed both the Americans and the French. When American people see that I have a degree from the Sorbonne, they look at one with a different eye.

Bush double-talk. They are not THAT stupid. They know EXACTLY what the difference is. The Turkish officials are hysterical because they know EXACTLY what this will mean for them. It will no longer be "history" but current reality. A small percentage of the Armenian "nation" is still here and we have not forgotten what was done to the majority.

Not only with Armenians! When I studied in France, I remember going to Le Drugstore!! So many American English words are used in France that the French government has established a commission to restrict (under law) the use of Franglais.

To set the record straight, Princess Diana was a descendant of Eliza Kevork (or Anglisized Kewark) of Bombay who was the common-law wife of Theodore Forbes, an English sea-captain. That moron transexual Lady Colin Campbell claims in her(his) book that Eliza was an East Indian. Any knowledgeable person knows that "Kevork" is an Armenian name.

Shad ge khentam gor! LOL!

What about Zen Buddhist Armenians?? Nobody in my personal Armenian circle rejects me for my religious beliefs. Only some in this Forum.

Boghos, Please explain why you claim this to be a "narcissitic" fantasy?

Arpa, Time for you to let go of what you learned in your youth in "Jibal Libnan." The Israelis will soon be joining our bandwagon. Throw off the shakles of acculturation that you learned from the elites of Beirut. Come down from those hills of affluence above Beirut and see things not for for what they have been but for what they can be.

Arpa, you are brilliant!! Just consider how much weight this statement carries, since it is coming from my direction!

Zartonk, It is stated in the historical sources that the two chinese brothers did not come alone, but came with a large entourage and were finally settled in Taron province. This signifies more than one family. Much of Armenian history before Christianity is lost.

You will NEVER hear a Brit claim that there is no Roman or Spanish blood in their genepool. Hungarians accept the fact of the Hun blood in their genepool. Poles admit that there is Armenian blood in their genepool. Even Turks admit that they are primarily Islamized Armenians and Greeks. There is not on nation on earth that is gentically "pure" if that word even has any meaning. Only certain Armenian danz-kloochs in this Forum claim this. We are primarily the indigenous Urartuans of the Armenian plateau, but we are not "pure." In this sense we are no different than any other nation on Earth. This irks me just like some Armenians claiming that we have no crime in our community, no murders, no sexual perversion, that we are as pure as the driven snow. The gain at the end of the day is to build bridges. The Anatolian Turks have little in common genetically with the Central Asian Turks yet claim them as their brothers. We should develop these bridges with the Chinese, who have been massacred by the Mongols and Turks throughout antiquity and with the Jews who have a similar history of persecution as we have had.

You only mention Khorenatsi, what about the other Armenian historians? The translation of the word is immaterial as the area's location and other aspects are clearly described.

When I state that we Armenians have assimilated French and German blood from the time of the Crusades, I get little disagreement here. When I state that Mongol warriors impregnated Armenian women, I get only a little disagreement. When I state that Armenian nobles and rulers willfully married Mongol women, I get more disagreement. When I bring up that Tigran Medz shipped 10,000 Jews to Tigranakert and more Jews to Van, and that a majority of these Jews assimilated into the Armenian genepool, I get vehement disagreement. Ditto the story of the Jews from the region of the ROA. It was not only Khorenatsi, but numerous members of our early historians who discussed the emigration of the two Chinese royal brothers from the Han dynasty and their entourage. Each of these histories discuss the story from a different angle, some clearly stating that they came from a land northeast of the Indian subcontinent. This also gets vehement diagreement. Methinks that there are portions of our earlier history that are taboo and other parts that are not so taboo. That is why I pound upon this. Just like I pound upon what our nobles did to the Paulicians and the Tondrakians.

Nell Carter and Sammy Davis, Jr. as well as, Liz Taylor are all converts to Judaism. Many European Jews are products of intermarriages. Many Jews are descended from Khazars. With Armenians it is another matter. In our case it was the Jews who assimilated. There are archaelogical reports from the 19th century (before Republic of Turkey) that refer to Armenian churches with the "Star of David" carved in the stone walls. What do you think that Thaddeus and Bartholomew were? Armenians?

It is quite possible that, until 1915, the Mamikonians remained in the vicinity of Mush, in Taron province. Therefore Armenians in that region would be marrying other Armenians who also were partially decended from the Chinese elite. The Persian king did not send only the two noble Chinese brother there but also a large entourage of their educated followers. These people intermarried with the local Armenians.