Dan

It's actually Howards End (minus the apostrophe) -- my bad. I just read the first 2 pages of that book, and it doesn't sound familiar.. so I'm not sure if there's a movie version of it.. it's not improbable though. As for Catch-22, like all the other books I want to read, I own the book, but have too little time to actually start reading it. My ADHD is getting worse - I used to read 1000 page books in 2 days, now I can't even read 10 pages in 2 days.

Yes, I think someone mentioned that before. I got the book, but ------ i don't have the time to read it now, so I'll read it later... probably in the summer.. A little bit of info on The Fat Man in History - it's a collection of short(er) stories that combine black satire with SOME elements of sci fi... very weird book, but thoroughly enjoyed it. The author is an Australian. I would've never picked this book up if it weren't on my reading list, simply because I'd never heard of/about it. But it's pretty good, although it's not one of those books I'd keep (well, since I bought the book, I'll keep it, but if I had known, I would've just borrowed it from the library). Has anyone read Joseph Heller's Catch-22? I haven't - yet, that is. But I want to read it. The next 2 books on my reading list are: Joseph Conrad's The Secret Agent (was supposed to read it by last week but didn't have the time to lol) and E.M Forster's Howard's End. Anyone read any of those two? One of the books that I thoroughly enjoyed was Sir Thomas More's Utopia. It's a MUST read for all those who are interested in poli sci/politics/philosophy/communism-capitalism.

I probably wouldn't claim to know all the small details and differences between words in the English language, although I've practically spent all my life hearing/speaking the language lol. Hence why I use dictionary.com all the time. As for my Armenian, it's not too good, although I know how to speak, read, and write. It's good to know that we have cleared up the disagreement lol. At least I got my point across to others this time..

I just finished reading The Fat Man in History by Peter Carey. A great book!!!

Hmmm, just curious, but I thought CSI meant Crime Scene Investigation, no? edit: Sorry, I didn't get the point of the thread. <_< I'm having a blond moment.

America-Hye, I am not talking about bringing the dead back. We can't. I'm talking about "compensation"/"reparation" payments. Restitution is another issue altogether, although all three words are frequently used as synonyms -- in this case, they're not, because there is a difference in intentions.

I don't have negative personality traits. I'm the perfect man........ <_< Well, I'm pretty confident in myself, and I try not to sound arrogant when getting my point across, and sometimes being too blunt gets me into trouble -- other than that, I pretty much like who I am, except when it comes to the temper part. I have a really bad temper (if you haven't guessed so already... ), and am VERY intolerant of people who bash others every step of the way, especially on public forums. It goes to show that they do it because they want to feel good about themselves, hence a lack of self-esteem. Hey hyebruin, I'm kinda shy, so you wouldn't stand me? Well, not always, I'm just shy around family friends -- outside the family circle, I pretty much don't know what 'shyness' means lol. http://queerhye.delri.net/amot1.gif

A-H, yes, you are right about that -- but you're not getting my point -- that money will only debase our cause. But I guess people differ in their personality traits. I would NOT become homeless and beg for a coupla bucks from here and there, even if I know that I'm going to starve to death, and even if I AM forced to live on the streets. I would NOT beg. And I could argue that homelessness is a social problem that should be addressed by society, because it's everyone's right to have liveable conditions. So it's not a matter of rights. You're going to tell me that they took away our rights (financially speaking), but what I'm trying to say is that when it is coupled with massacres/genocide, the financial aspect to it becomes VERY minor compared to the emotional/traumatic aspect you were referring to, even if the trauma was caused by a loss of money and the ability to survive.. What I'm trying to say is that... if it were only about theft of Armenian property/money on a mass-scale basis, the financial aspect would then be valid and could be addressed for justice to be achieved, but justice in the case of the Armenian genocide, is, for me, justice based on the killings rather than the act of deportation from their homes/houses alone. I don't know if you're getting my point at all.. I guess I'm not too good at getting my point across and answering people's questions.. *sigh*

Yes, that is exactly why we saw the genocide in Rwanda.. exactly because the Nazis "got away with it."

Correct. But the process of waking up will not happen overnight, because of the movement away from nationalism and into a world where diversity and multiculturalism are celebrated at the expense of European heritage and culture. It will take years and years. If there is a motion to put an end to immigration in any of the European countries, it will be out of absolute NEED for security and safety of citizens, not out of preserving one's own land or out of nationalistic reasons/purposes. Years of suicide attacks and security threats even in Europe. To add to that, governments are controlled by nothing more than lemmings who would sell their own country if it came down to personal profits. Otherwise I don't see why the government of Canada would bring in 100,000 illiterate chinese immigrants compared to 1000 educated immigrants from all of Europe (not accurate numbers, but the comparison stands). And it is exactly for this overstretching of the so-called quota system that groups against immigration are being formed. Slowly but surely. Hoping that by the time those people get organised enough to be able to have a voice that counts, the country wouldn't be in the hands of Chinese and Indian immigrants already (in the case of Canada). My main complaint is how they come here and abuse the system, get on welfare immediately, and do illegal things. Some of them even stay here illegally when the immigration officials know about them but are too busy deporting that poor Russian lady who has no one in Canada except her disabled husband... edit: If Air Canada was saved from bankruptcy by a wealthy Asian (I believe from Hong Kong or Taiwan?), I wonder what deals were made to preserve that image. We probably won't know, but I expect a rise in Chinese immigration even more.

uhuh. that's how the argument goes. because it's supposedly a movement of the "majority", it has to be racist. and last time i checked, white people weren't the majority anymore. not in their own countries even.

with only one difference -- the Armenian genocide did take place. the holohoax is just that -- a hoax. but that's hope you're feeling better, skittles.

O, you mean George Bush the one who thinks marriage is between a man and a woman, and probably believes in the traditional roles of a man and a woman along with concepts of masculinity and femininity (even though he "effeminately" went AWOL)?

I don't see why people are "attacking" Skittles (whether directly or indirectly) -- maybe she doesn't believe that the holocaust actually took place...? (not saying that she doesn't, but why the automatic nono response? not trying to create an argument here, and I probably won't reply to any replies to this one, but just wondering what everyone's problem is..) Skittles, I understand your pain even though I don't claim to "feel" it. I hope you can reach an understanding about this issue with your parents.. I know that sometimes frustration leads to "unacceptable" (generally speaking) outbursts, and while I don't agree with the "killing all sexist people" part, I will defend (on this forum) your right for free speech, unless I'm silenced, in which case there's nothing I can do.

A-H, you must realise, though, that by simply dating someone from your workplace, you automatically have that risk of being outed. Workplace dating should not happen, whether it's straight or gay. Because if there is a problem and the relationship is put to an end, even if there is no outing, the workplace will become a living hell for either one of them, especially if the other one is a b****, which could potentially end up in either one of them (or both) being fired, even if they are straight.

Is this what you call "integration"? http://www.globalserve.net/~altona/cfirc/pictures/3.html Are you telling me that someone with a British accent can have a Farsi accent as well? Somehow I highly doubt it. And the first step to integration is taking off the "hijab." So when they do, they can come back and demand their "rights." Rights come with duties and responsibilities. And when they respect the society they are living in, they can start talking about integration then.

oh don't give me that BS. you sounded JUST like Bush when you said that. First off, racialists are not racists. Why is it that those who want to set up a white pride movement get persecuted while those who have black pride, jewish pride, gay pride are not? freedom of speech alright, huh?

yes, and he just replied to your question.

lol MosJan... maybe you should come in more often then, that way I can leave the chat and the forum, if that's the case, and go and do my homework.. haha.. I think I'm going to bed. So that's what I did today... just surfed the net and read half an article.

I am reading my article on masculinity <_< because I am bored with someone bashing me in the chat room.

what's with this whole psychoanalysis trend on HyeForum??? ME5, do you usually feel the urge to attack people out of the blue, when you didn't even take part in the discussion?

Yes. I guess having Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder doesn't help much, does it?

Errr, mouse, i meant "lighter" skinned.. not "dead" pale.. lol..

China is trying so hard to "keep up" with other developed countries, but it can't, because of its cattle-like breeding population and the absence of nationally developed technologies. If they sent a human being to space 40 years after Gagarin, that is a clear pointer as to where China is right now. And it won't get better. Unless a mass epidemic solves China's population problem and labour/unemployment fears/worries, I'm afraid China is going down the path of destruction. And I'm not sure how massive the effects of such a destruction would be on the world, considering that a lot of countries depend on Chinese productions... China's cooperation with USA will be a huge mistake on USA's part, and China's antagonism with USA will NOT result in a Chinese win. China might have a huge population, but when it comes down to a comparison between USA and China, a huge number of Chinese people are undernourished and if there is a need for infantry clash, I'm afraid they neither have the man "power" nor the weapons power. Unless, of course, Japan comes to their aid, which could prove disastrous for the USA.. and of course, the good ol' competition between Russia and USA.. it has the potential for another World War. And I think China holds the key to that world war. >< Scary, but IMO, true.

lol.. changing my mind? nah.. just playing along for the thread.. but i do like women, kinda.. i mean, i'm what popular culture calls bi-curious.. ouch, ok, so you've had a bad day too, eh? hey, i'm a member of the bitch nation (don't ask me what it is..).. if you wanna join - i'm sure we could do something about it. i mean i have resources and stuff LOL. so what d'ya say? hmm? Aww, a kiss to you from a gentle and sensitive man.. oh, and another turn-on -- women who know when to talk and when to stay silent. I don't like the loud, talks-all-the-time girls.