Http://folding.stanford.edu/

[Anoushik]

Anoushig jan, sometimes and old computer can be like an old car.... it runs a bit slower, maybe less efficiently, but if it gets you from A to B, it's still useful.

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That's true I've very satisfied with this computer because I can check the forum late at night without leaving my room. And I can find more excuses to start essays late at night and pull all-nighters in front of the computer The only thing this computer is bad at is folding

[Anoushik]

You probably have Windows 98 installed.

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Yeah, it's Wondows 98

You're probably the one that did the most effort to fold. I'll do an exception for you and provide you the key tomorow. 

Thank you

 

BTW, there's something you wanted in a certain board. 

Yep, saw it

[Anileve]

And what's that?

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It's a chip that processes all of the information in your computer. It's the brain. The motherboard (a flat board where all of the components sit) is the heart and the power supply is the blood (gives power through the outlet to the motherboard, circulates electricity throughout). That's how I learned, I know it's a bit primitive but it's always interesting to compare a machine to a human form.

 

Now a question for you. What does this mean: C minor, D Major? In laymen's terms please. I never understood it.

[Sip]

Yeah, it's Wondows 98

 

I know Domino is going to kick my ass for saying this, but just do yourself a favor and uninstall the folding stuff from your PC.

[Anoushik]

Now a question for you. What does this mean: C minor, D Major? In laymen's terms please. I never understood it.

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Well, I don’t think I could compare major and minor to a human body but I’ll try my best to keep it short when I define what you’re asking

Before getting into major and minor you have to know what is a scale. It’s basically a series of notes that follow each other. In Western musical language we only have seven notes - A, B, C, D, E, F, G – and the distance between these notes are either half step or a whole step. The piano clearly shows that (that’s why everyone wants to study the piano since it makes sense from the beginning). Look at my avatar. If there is a black key between two white notes then the distance between these two notes are a whole step. But if there is no black key between two white notes then the distance is a half step. Similarly the distance between a black and a white key is a half step. So the half step is the closest sounding tone to another tone.

Every major scale has the same relationship between the notes regardless of where you start the scale and the same applies to a minor scale. Thus, if I start on middle C and follow the major scale pattern, which is W, W, H, W, W, W, H (W=Whole, H=Half) I get the C major scale. In C major you only play on white keys but if you play a major scale starting on another note (D) you have to start using black keys to get the same relationship between the notes.

By nature major scale sounds happy and minor scale sounds sad. And people usually capitalize the Major scale and use lower-case for minor.

 

Sorry, I'm still working on my ability to define things by laymen's terms If this doesn't make sense then I apologize for not writing more clearly

 

PS. Thanks for defining what CPU is.

PPS. I always thought the term motherboard sounds so funny

[Anoushik]

I know Domino is going to kick my ass for saying this, but just do yourself a favor and uninstall the folding stuff from your PC. 

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But... but I wanted to get the key and contribute to the Armenian team

 

OK, that's it, tomorrow I'm installing folding on our new computer whether my brother likes it or not!

[DominO123]

Anoushik, I'll make you hear one of my compositions during Christmass vacations. And you Eve, I'll show you one of my paintings.(on real Canvas, not computer)

 

Anoushik, when was the last time you have installed Windows 98 on your old computer. The problem might be that you need to install a fresh copy. Oh BTW, is it the Second Edition?

 

Today you're recieving your key.

[vava]

your brother may not even notice....

[Siamanto]

It's a chip that processes all of the information in your computer. It's the brain. The motherboard (a flat board where all of the components sit) is the heart and the power supply is the blood (gives power through the outlet to the motherboard, circulates electricity throughout). That's how I learned, I know it's a bit primitive but it's always interesting to compare a machine to a human form.

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It is a good practice to explain what is unknown - perceived as "complicated" - with known - perceived as "simple" - concepts; but, I believe that you had a "bad" teacher.

The power supply is comparable to the stomach that "processes/transforms" the nutrition and makes it "usable" by the body/computer.

The electron/electricity is comparable to the blood/blood cell.

The mother board is comparable to a part of the human body - such as the abdomen or the head - that includes MANY organs and has a MORE OR LESS defined set of functions.

Edited December 15, 2004 by Siamanto

[Siamanto]

But... but I wanted to get the key and contribute to the Armenian team

OK, that's it, tomorrow I'm installing folding on our new computer whether my brother likes it or not!  

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As a rule of thumb i.e. only somehow accurate,

1- If your PC is folding 24/7

2- If you have a floating co-processor

You will be folding enough for about 35-50 points per 100 Mhz per week. My guess is that your CPU is about 150-250 Mhz!!!

For instance, if you have a 200 Mhz CPU, then you'll be folding enough for 70-100 points a week. Usually, the first Work UNit is worth about 250 points!

 

It is very UNLIKELY that you DON'T have enough RAM: the folding program is a TINY program that is "CPU bound" i.e. it needs a lot of CPU power - also floating co-processor - but little or almost no RAM and negligible hard disk space.

[A SOMEHOW accurate - or inaccurate - indication that you have little RAM is:

If your PC seems to be much slower than usual - when used for other functions - and the LED i.e. the light that indicates hard disk operations is constantly on or blinking. You would also hear a constant "tapping noise." The constant - or unusual - blinking indicates that your system is constantly "swapping" in/out.

Consider your RAM as your desk and the hard disk as your file cabinet. In order to process a file, you need to first bring files from your cabinet to your desk. If your desk is crowded and you have to process a file that is not ALREADY on your desk, then you NEED to first return an "unimportant" folder from your desk to the file cabinet (swap out) and make room for the file that you need to bring from the file cabinet (swap in.)

If you're not using your PC for other functions, it is VERY UNLIKELY that you're out of RAM!]

 

Also, Win98 will not make it run slower or faster!

 

Most of all, don't discard your Work Unit as long as the percentage is increasing!

[DominO123]

Siamanto, it's obvious that she has an FPU, starting with the Pentium first series, the FPU was in the CPU. The reason I asked if she had Windows 98, was to know if she had at least a Pentium processor.

[Siamanto]

Siamanto, it's obvious that she has an FPU, starting with the Pentium first series, the FPU was in the CPU. The reason I asked if she had Windows 98, was to know if she had at least a Pentium processor.

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Domino,

I apologize if I sounded ambiguous! It was not based on something you have said!

I said: "Win98 will not make it run slower or faster!" because, our friend, Seaphan was "pulling her legs!"

 

Also, the discussion where I mentioned the FPU was general and independent from the OS and I was not assuming whether she has or has not an FPU! I run mainly on Linux!

[Sip]

My suggestion to not do folding based on the win98 info was because I doubt there is much of a CPU there to do the normal daily tasks, let alone to bog it down more with folding.

 

What I found interesting in the recent discussion is how computer related things were being explained in other terms while I usually do the opposite: explain other things in computer terms

 

I got rid of the folding stuff on my daily PC because it was really slowing me down ... on top of that, my fans were going bezerk with the added load. I hate having any extra load on my system other than the stuff I am doing at the time because even a few ms delay in response time drives me nutz over time. My PCs are usually struggling to keep up with my demands on them when I'm working on things (the keyword being WHEN I'm working ).

 

Plus, the thing seems to core dump once in a while.

Edited December 15, 2004 by Seapahn

[Anoushik]

As a rule of thumb i.e. only somehow accurate,

1- If your PC is folding 24/7

2- If you have a floating co-processor

You will be folding enough for about 35-50 points per 100 Mhz per week. My guess is that your CPU is about 150-250 Mhz!!!

For instance, if you have a 200 Mhz CPU, then you'll be folding enough for 70-100 points a week. Usually, the first Work UNit is worth about 250 points!

 

... Also, Win98 will not make it run slower or faster!

 

Most of all, don't discard your Work Unit as long as the percentage is increasing!

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Yeah, I guess the problem is that I'm not running my computer 24/7. Now that I'm home most of the day I leave my computer on (but shut it down at night, otherwise I'd never sleep), and I've seen a dramatic increase in the percentage, but when I had classes I spent most of the days at the university and didn't want to leave my computer on.

 

What do you mean by points? Right now it shows that I have 51% and 204/400. Is my WU worth 400 points?

 

I asked my brother and he said he'd look into the program, but heaven knows when

I guess I'll just keep "folding" on my computer for now and see how far it'll get. Other than this I'm very satisfied with this computer. It doesn't seem slow to me and it has DSL. It never seems like it's working too hard by blinking the red light and making noises. And my brother installed a new Win. 98 when he moved this computer into my room. Also, I guess it's not working too hard because all of the important documents and programs are saved in the other computer, so this one is basically empty. I save all my homeworks, pictures, the music program Finale, etc. on the other computer

[Anileve]

Well, I don’t think I could compare major and minor to a human body but I’ll try my best to keep it short when I define what you’re asking

Before getting into major and minor you have to know what is a scale. It’s basically a series of notes that follow each other. In Western musical language we only have seven notes - A, B, C, D, E, F, G – and the distance between these notes are either half step or a whole step. The piano clearly shows that (that’s why everyone wants to study the piano since it makes sense from the beginning). Look at my avatar. If there is a black key between two white notes then the distance between these two notes are a whole step. But if there is no black key between two white notes then the distance is a half step. Similarly the distance between a black and a white key is a half step. So the half step is the closest sounding tone to another tone.

Every major scale has the same relationship between the notes regardless of where you start the scale and the same applies to a minor scale. Thus, if I start on middle C and follow the major scale pattern, which is W, W, H, W, W, W, H (W=Whole, H=Half) I get the C major scale. In C major you only play on white keys but if you play a major scale starting on another note (D) you have to start using black keys to get the same relationship between the notes.

By nature major scale sounds happy and minor scale sounds sad. And people usually capitalize the Major scale and use lower-case for minor.

 

Sorry, I'm still working on my ability to define things by laymen's terms If this doesn't make sense then I apologize for not writing more clearly

 

PS. Thanks for defining what CPU is.

PPS. I always thought the term motherboard sounds so funny

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I admire musicians’ ability to describe their craft with such elegant sophistication. I think I understand it a little better now. When I used to play the piano I do remember the difference in a sound when I played on the white keys and the black ones.

 

The only thing that confuses me is how you described minor sounding sad and major sounding happy. The other day I was listening to my favorite piece by Bach "Suit No.3 in D Major:BWV 1068: Second Movement (Air) and believe me it sounds anything but happy. It resonated almost a sense of melancholy.

[Anileve]

It is a good practice to explain what is unknown - perceived as "complicated" - with known - perceived as "simple" - concepts; but, I believe that you had a "bad" teacher.

The power supply is comparable to the stomach that "processes/transforms" the nutrition and makes it "usable" by the body/computer.

The electron/electricity is comparable to the blood/blood cell.

The mother board is comparable to a part of the human body - such as the abdomen or the head - that includes MANY organs and has a MORE OR LESS defined set of functions.

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You should check your family tree for any possible relation to Sip. If not, you would either make the best of friends or the worst of enemies.

 

I am also puzzled how you chose a digestive system as a comparison. The heart connects all of the organs in your body, it also distributes and pumps blood. Without it a body is lifeless, where as the brain processes the information needed for a proper function. If the brain is dysfunctional in some way, the information is muddled and we don't perform as well. Blood is what carries the nutrition to the organs. Don't mess with my theory it's very well thought out.

[Sip]

Maybe the power supply is more like the soul of the system that gives it its will to do things while the CPU is the brain that actually does things.

[Anoushik]

The only thing that confuses me is how you described minor sounding sad and major sounding happy. The other day I was listening to my favorite piece by Bach "Suit No.3 in D Major:BWV 1068: Second Movement (Air) and believe me it sounds anything but happy. It resonated almost a sense of melancholy.

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When a piece is multi-movement one movement is major and one is minor A usual three-movement piece with a first movement in major always has the second movement in minor. The title doesn't change.

[Siamanto]

I am also puzzled how you chose a digestive system as a comparison. The heart connects all of the organs in your body, it also distributes and pumps blood. Without it a body is lifeless, where as the brain processes the information needed for a proper function. If the brain is dysfunctional in some way, the information is muddled and we don't perform as well. Blood is what carries the nutrition to the organs. Don't mess with my theory it's very well thought out.

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Of course, any analogy cannot be completely accurate!

A Power Supply TRANSFORMS the input electric current into a form that is useful or usable by the different parts of the computer, just like a stomach/digestive system TRANSFORMS what is supplied from the external world into elements that are useful or usable by the different parts of the body.

Of course, one MAY CONSIDER that the regulated distribution of the electric current is one of the functions of a Power Supply, hence the analogy with the heart is natural. However, the Power Supply IS NOT THE BLOOD, contrary to what you have stated!

[Siamanto]

Yeah, I guess the problem is that I'm not running my computer 24/7. Now that I'm home most of the day I leave my computer on (but shut it down at night, otherwise I'd never sleep), and I've seen a dramatic increase in the percentage, but when I had classes I spent most of the days at the university and didn't want to leave my computer on.

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If you don't run it 24/7 and you have a relatively old computer, then it is normal!

 

 

 

What do you mean by points? Right now it shows that I have 51% and 204/400. Is my WU worth 400 points?

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I apologize for being ambiguous. At the completion of a Work Unit, you will be credited a certain amount of points. The cumulative sum of the points constitutes your score. It's hard to tell how many points you'll be credited. Normally, the first Work Unit is about 250!

 

 

 

I asked my brother and he said he'd look into the program, but heaven knows when 

I guess I'll just keep "folding" on my computer for now and see how far it'll get. Other than this I'm very satisfied with this computer. It doesn't seem slow to me and it has DSL. It never seems like it's working too hard by blinking the red light and making noises. And my brother installed a new Win. 98 when he moved this computer into my room. Also, I guess it's not working too hard because all of the important documents and programs are saved in the other computer, so this one is basically empty. I save all my homeworks, pictures, the music program Finale, etc. on the other computer

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I understand! Why upgrade or recycle something that is still useful and does the job! I also function in a similar way!

[Armen]

Maybe the power supply is more like the soul of the system that gives it its will to do things while the CPU is the brain that actually does things.

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What is this world coming to. Sip said "soul" ...

[DominO123]

Of course, any analogy cannot be completely accurate!

A Power Supply TRANSFORMS the input electric current into a form that is useful or usable by the different parts of the computer, just like a stomach/digestive system TRANSFORMS what is supplied from the external world into elements that are useful or usable by the different parts of the body.

Of course, one MAY CONSIDER that the regulated distribution of the electric current is one of the functions of a Power Supply, hence the analogy with the heart is natural. However, the Power Supply IS NOT THE BLOOD, contrary to what you have stated!

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Then the power supply would be the stomach, and the motherboard capacitors etc... would be the intestin. The capacitors will absorbe the digested energy, and send them to the critical computer componments

 

The Chipset would be the endoctrinal system.

[Azat]

Anoushik I am sure all these geeks did a wonderful job of explaining computers to you. (Ya right) and now you know why no woman wants to be seen next to all of them.

[DominO123]

Anoushik I am sure all these geeks did a wonderful job of explaining computers to you.  (Ya right) and now you know why no woman wants to be seen next to all of them.

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Anoushik, don't listen to Azat, if you need help, I'll come to your home and fix your computer. Azat will pay for the bus ticket.

[Sip]

What is this world coming to. Sip said "soul" ...  

 

Sometimes we are lucky enough to be exposed to certain influences in life that make us see and experience things beyond what our closed minds would normally tend to see.

 

... or maybe it was nothing but a glitch in the matrix