Azat Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 First Class? I myself dont fly first class. Why is Domino so special? Just because he has hair and I dont does not make him a better person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 So is the Folding experiment over? I noticed that there are only 4 of us left - even Domino has stopped folding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 vavajan i see 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 vavajan i see 14 style_images/master/snapback.png Yes, but only 4 are active within the last 7 days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 So is the Folding experiment over? I noticed that there are only 4 of us left - even Domino has stopped folding... style_images/master/snapback.png I havn't stopped folding Vava, I have bought another videocard, and have some problems with my system, I will have to reinstall it, something I will be doing in few days, until then, I have deactivated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 I just reactivated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 (edited) Hyeforum will be soon ranked below 1000! 1000th as of this moment! Edited January 7, 2005 by Siamanto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 I just reactivated it. style_images/master/snapback.png hav i been folding for nothing in the last 5 days ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 hav i been folding for nothing in the last 5 days ??? style_images/master/snapback.png No! Don't worry. When I said I deactivated, I was talking about my folding not the team. As soon as the next folding is done, we're officially under a 1000. The next folder will be promotted a Fadixian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 No! Don't worry. When I said I deactivated, I was talking about my folding not the team. As soon as the next folding is done, we're officially under a 1000. The next folder will be promotted a Fadixian. style_images/master/snapback.png I turning off all my engines. I don't want to be Fadixian! What kind of a monster is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 I turning off all my engines. I don't want to be Fadixian! What kind of a monster is that? style_images/master/snapback.png It is someone that can change universe as wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 It is someone that can change universe as wanted. style_images/master/snapback.png In practical terms, what would that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 In practical terms, what would that mean? style_images/master/snapback.png Are you sure you want me to start with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 (edited) Are you sure you want me to start with this? style_images/master/snapback.png Yes! Why do you think I asked the question? Edited January 7, 2005 by Siamanto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Yes! Why do you think I asked the question? style_images/master/snapback.png It means realising that there are infinit number of Siamantos, and that the you is the product of all of them, the realisation that...(to know the rest you must be a Fadixian ) Here is where I must stop or else Sip is going to kick my butt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 BTW, we're in 999 position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 It means realising that there are infinit number of Siamantos, and that the you is the product of all of them, the realisation that...(to know the rest you must be a Fadixian ) Here is where I must stop or else Sip is going to kick my butt. style_images/master/snapback.png That's it! I already knew that! That never made me "someone that can change universe as wanted. " But I would not assert that the number is infinite! By the way, if infinite, first order infinite or higher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 That's it! I already knew that! That never made me "someone that can change universe as wanted. " But I would not assert that the number is infinite! By the way, if infinite, first order infinite or higher? style_images/master/snapback.png Can't be other than infinit. As if it's first order or not... it is a varriable infinit that has no constance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Can't be other than infinit. style_images/master/snapback.png Why? Would you care to explain? As if it's first order or not... it is a varriable infinit that has no constance. style_images/master/snapback.png I'm not sure that I understand you. By "order," do we mean the same thing? By first order, second order...I mean aleph0, aleph1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Siamanto #2 says - keep in mind that there may be an infinite number of replies to your post may flood the forum! It means realising that there are infinit number of Siamantos, and that the you is the product of all of them, the realisation that...(to know the rest you must be a Fadixian ) style_images/master/snapback.png That's exactly what I thought: a monster with many many hands, feet, eyes and.... Here is where I must stop or else Sip is going to kick my butt. style_images/master/snapback.png Sip, please give him what he deserves: he wants to turn one of us into a monster! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 It means realising that there are infinit number of Siamantos, and that the you is the product of all of them, the realisation that...(to know the rest you must be a Fadixian ) Here is where I must stop or else Sip is going to kick my butt. style_images/master/snapback.png Siamanto #4 says: Thank God, Siamanto #3 is going to bed: he's the "shadakhos" one! Other Siamantos, let's also go to bed! Sip, Kisher Pari! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Why? Would you care to explain? I'm not sure that I understand you. By "order," do we mean the same thing? By first order, second order...I mean aleph0, aleph1... style_images/master/snapback.png First since you do suppose there is more than one universe, I won't bother trying to justify that. Why infinit,... it derives from the inflationist theory in Quantum mechanic. Bubbles of universeses are just created from emptyness. Nothingless is not determinated, and from nothingless bubble of universes can be created. Since nothingless is not determinated, if from it you creat universes, it will still change nothing on its determination, it will still be not determinated. There is no limit of universes that can be created... and since time is just a dimension, outside of consciousness, outside of a universe, there is no arrow of time... from the point of view of the outsider when taking a look at those universes, all coexist... those that existed, those that exist(from my point of view), that that will exist, will all coexist. The number of univereses in such a cases can not be determinated... so from the point of view of the outsider, there are infinit number of universes, infinit being the only undeterminated form in this cases. When you told me first order, I understand it as an infinit discribed by an equation of the first order. Thanks for clarifying, but still, I could not tell, who is to tell that it can even continue to contain itself(the multiverse in the process of universe creations etc.) as a member of itself ... There is no predictability or anything, they just creat and creat, disapear, creat, creat etc... a lot more are created then disapearing,(because they just popup) and even if the opposit was to be true, since outsider as an observer, there is no time, the past universes will still exist and add to the bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Siamanto #4 says: Thank God, Siamanto #3 is going to bed: he's the "shadakhos" one! Other Siamantos, let's also go to bed! Sip, Kisher Pari! style_images/master/snapback.png Oh damn, just when it started to be fun. Well, good night, I think I'll go to sleep as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamanto Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Siamanto #263 First since you do suppose there is more than one universe, I won't bother trying to justify that. style_images/master/snapback.png When did I say that? Who are you talking to? Maybe late Siamanto #32456788! Unfortunately he's not among us anymore! I'm replacing him and you'll have to deal with me now! He was a good man - sic - but not too bright! You shouldn't pay attention to everything he has said! First since you do suppose there is more than one universe, I won't bother trying to justify that. Why infinit,... it derives from the inflationist theory in Quantum mechanic. Bubbles of universeses are just created from emptyness. Nothingless is not determinated, and from nothingless bubble of universes can be created. Since nothingless is not determinated, if from it you creat universes, it will still change nothing on its determination, it will still be not determinated. There is no limit of universes that can be created... and since time is just a dimension, outside of consciousness, outside of a universe, there is no arrow of time... from the point of view of the outsider when taking a look at those universes, all coexist... those that existed, those that exist(from my point of view), that that will exist, will all coexist. The number of univereses in such a cases can not be determinated... so from the point of view of the outsider, there are infinit number of universes, infinit being the only undeterminated form in this cases. style_images/master/snapback.png That is one model and there exists an infinite number of models. My understanding is a "bit" different. Simply said 1- I'm the end result - interference - of many different events, opinions, people, emotions.... 2- I'm not a Logical Coherent Entity and have many dimensions, sometimes "conflicting" or "contradictory!" (possibly, more than first order infinite!! ) 3- At different times, the "relevance" of the different dimensions changes and I APPEAR to be "different!" [This is not entirely what Nietzsche calls "simulacre" - let's say "mask" - in his theory of the Eternal Return.] 4- ... When you told me first order, I understand it as an infinit discribed by an equation of the first order. Thanks for clarifying, but still, I could not tell, who is to tell that it can even continue to contain itself(the multiverse in the process of universe creations etc.) as a member of itself ... There is no predictability or anything, they just creat and creat, disapear, creat, creat etc... a lot more are created then disapearing,(because they just popup) and even if the opposit was to be true, since outsider as an observer, there is no time, the past universes will still exist and add to the bunch. style_images/master/snapback.png Your definition implies that the Universes are enumerable i.e. first order infinite or aleph0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I do realise that your conception is not a little different than mine, but more than a "little." I will discuss about this when I have time in another thread. I will just answer about the infinity stuff for now, since we disagree in many things in our conception of the multiverse so it will take some time... I have to disagree with you about being first orther, because like I said, there is no indication that it could continue to contain itself as a member of itself(we don't know in the first place if it ever did). In practice aleph0 is a "countable" infinity, where every value could have its corresponding value(see Cantors "proof.") Nothing in the inflationist theory show us that there is any sort of limit to permit each values to have their correspondances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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