Dan Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Share your thoughts on this one, folks: http://www.martinlutherking.org/thebeast.html I, for one, think that this document is a very factual one. In fact, even Martin Luther King sympathisers and followers admit to it but on the bases that "the good that he did far outweighs these truths" they say that they don't want to talk about it. Anyhow, what do you think about him? And why do you think "a liberal judge has sealed the FBI files on King until the year 2027" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Hummmmm....very interesting Dan...and why should we consider seriously anything that is hosted by a "KKK" organization? http://www.stormfront.org/ Anything that is on that site is pure white supremacist fascist trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 (edited) If you had paid attention to everything that was on that page, you would've noticed that it's not written by Stormfront. Moreover, Stormfront is not a White supremacist website. It's a racialist (not racist) website. Additionally, if gay pride and black pride are acceptable and welcome in society, I don't see why White pride isn't, and I don't see why White pride is automatically associated with Nazism... Another question -- why do you then consider everything that comes from the Anti-Racist Action and any other politically correct website to be true, the formers being white-hating hypocrites (in many cases self-hating, since some of them are white). Why have you been brainwashed about Martin Luther King, considering that those who brainwashed you are now what can be called "gangs of America" (the same people who go around killing, sexually assaulting women, etc.).... And does it help you if I gave you another link for the same article, since you obviously consider stormfront too supremacist for your taste (because it's concerned with preserving white heritage)? Here's more on Martin Luther's plagiarism: http://chem-gharbison.unl.edu/mlk/plagiarism.html Archibald Carey's speech, 1952? Anyone? Good job, Mr. King... you're truly deserving of a day commemorating you.. or perhaps your plagiarism.. hahhaha.. http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/Issues/race/mlk.html Perhaps it could help reading up on what I posted before making prejudiced comments on where the article has been posted.. Edit: You might want to edit out that link to stormfront, as I know the mods will have a problem with it. Edited January 23, 2004 by Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 (edited) One more comment on your "fascist" comment -- it seems to me that the countries we live in are the ones that are fascist, not the website you mentioned.. FBI, anyone? Do you know how much they know about you and what you do each day, who you talk to, etc? Sounds like an American version of the Schutzstaffel to me... heh... perhaps you've been brainwashed by the ADL? Edit: BTW, I was just putting forth an article, that's all -- not about racial attitudes or anything.. If you notice, that article also talks about communism, and I'm a commie.. so whatever. If you have a problem with an article based on scholarly research, I say it's your problem, not mine. If you come up with a refutation on the claims that article makes, do share. I'd love to read it!! Edited January 23, 2004 by Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Dan...a couple of things...first...well - humans are - well human...and I would think you will be hard pressed to find an example not some way flawed. And we also should be aware that myths tend to be built up around historical figures (and events and such) that don't always reflect the whole or even actual truth (I highly recommend a book called "Lies Accross America" for more along these lines...read that one yet Steve?). Anyway look into the life of Benjiman Franklin a bit and you might be suyrprised...but does this really lessen his greatnes..what he accomplished..what he stoof dor? Are you a fan of Mother Theresa at all? Well I dare say she is no saint (well perhaps she is by now...but thatis the Catholic Church we are talking about..speaking of)....anyway King was indeed a great man. And your and others focusing on his human frailties and such - well that just speaks to your own motives and agendas i think. And yes Dan - many of your pots of late on racial matters have been very revealing - and ugly...but you are just a silly English poofter now anyway - aren't you? Posting away from your parents basement...filled with the wisdom to solve all of the worlds problems...yeah...cast them stones...cast them...so very typical... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Thoth, tell us about Mother Theresa. I'm curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 All i have to say the guy had some kewl quotes.. I have a dream, that one day my children will not be judged by the color of there skin, but by the content of there character Just curious Dan, why did u bring up this topic, for discussion? or do u have something against the equality he preached? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 If you had paid attention to everything that was on that page, you would've noticed that it's not written by Stormfront. Moreover, Stormfront is not a White supremacist website. Ok, how about this one, does this clear out the fog for you Dan jan? http://www.stormfront.org/dblack/press101997.htm We are all plagiarists by the way, to some extent. One of my favorite quotes is by Oscar Wilde: "Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation." That doesn't take away from people's great achievements and their noble nature. And what concerns information written by prejudice and arrogantly superior individuals I do not waste my time on. The list includes Communists, Nazis, feminists and others that have hate and prejudice seeping out of their pores. A person with and open mind looks at the world without bias views, that is the one worth respecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 The facts: Martin Luther King was a womanizer, and he plagiarized his speech, and a closet communist. I don't see any reason to have a "day" for him, nor for anyone else for that matter. Days are too precious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 All i have to say the guy had some kewl quotes.. Just curious Dan, why did u bring up this topic, for discussion? or do u have something against the equality he preached? What 'equality'? There is no such thing. Marxism was essentially a rejection of nature and the inherent inequalities. But hey, I won't stop you from dreaming. Hence the speech 'I have a dream'...'but if you strip search me you'll find I plagiarized'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 If you had paid attention to everything that was on that page, you would've noticed that it's not written by Stormfront. Moreover, Stormfront is not a White supremacist website. It's a racialist (not racist) website. Additionally, if gay pride and black pride are acceptable and welcome in society, I don't see why White pride isn't, and I don't see why White pride is automatically associated with Nazism... Another question -- why do you then consider everything that comes from the Anti-Racist Action and any other politically correct website to be true, the formers being white-hating hypocrites (in many cases self-hating, since some of them are white). Why have you been brainwashed about Martin Luther King, considering that those who brainwashed you are now what can be called "gangs of America" (the same people who go around killing, sexually assaulting women, etc.).... And does it help you if I gave you another link for the same article, since you obviously consider stormfront too supremacist for your taste (because it's concerned with preserving white heritage)? Here's more on Martin Luther's plagiarism: http://chem-gharbison.unl.edu/mlk/plagiarism.html Archibald Carey's speech, 1952? Anyone? Good job, Mr. King... you're truly deserving of a day commemorating you.. or perhaps your plagiarism.. hahhaha.. http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/Issues/race/mlk.html Perhaps it could help reading up on what I posted before making prejudiced comments on where the article has been posted.. Edit: You might want to edit out that link to stormfront, as I know the mods will have a problem with it. Thing with Stormfront, Resistance.com (or .org), and the like is that their sympathizers diss non-whites day in and day out. Black-pride or gay-pride types shouldn't diss others different from them, either. I mean, if you look at the Stormfront forums, you can read posts like, "How can whites be allowed to marry blacks? Should that be tolerated?" Reminds me of some of the stuff you read on Armenian forums sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 I mean, if you look at the Stormfront forums, you can read posts like, "How can whites be allowed to marry blacks? Should that be tolerated?" Reminds me of some of the stuff you read on Armenian forums sometimes. True indeed stormig, I wouldn't be against white pride per se, if it was about pride and not hate. I have pride, but I don't need to hate. Most groups/people don't see that and when the claim pride, it's about saying your group is the best and actively hating others. And believe me, in my search to practice more armenian and see it used, I have come across many armenian forums with some harsh topics. But so it goes. Hate is easy I guess, easier than actually learning about someone else, or taking to time to not generalize. To the point of the thread, that was an interesting article. Part of the nature of man is definately to seek to destroy the accomplishments of others, especially after they are not around. I don't really put anyone on a pedastal these days, but I do give credit where it's due. I'll look more into the plagarism, but as for the womanizing i'm not too surprised, the chase of "kitten" has dragged more than one supposed "holy" man into the earth. It's ridiculous, i'm a man like anybody else but how come so many man can not stay strong, even in the face of their own words, let alone whatever creed they claim. I just hate that even the 'strongest, greatest' of men will succumb to some loose vor running around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Dan...a couple of things...first...well - humans are - well human...and I would think you will be hard pressed to find an example not some way flawed. And we also should be aware that myths tend to be built up around historical figures (and events and such) that don't always reflect the whole or even actual truth (I highly recommend a book called "Lies Accross America" for more along these lines...read that one yet Steve?). Anyway look into the life of Benjiman Franklin a bit and you might be suyrprised...but does this really lessen his greatnes..what he accomplished..what he stoof dor? Are you a fan of Mother Theresa at all? Well I dare say she is no saint (well perhaps she is by now...but thatis the Catholic Church we are talking about..speaking of)....anyway King was indeed a great man. And your and others focusing on his human frailties and such - well that just speaks to your own motives and agendas i think. And yes Dan - many of your pots of late on racial matters have been very revealing - and ugly...but you are just a silly English poofter now anyway - aren't you? Posting away from your parents basement...filled with the wisdom to solve all of the worlds problems...yeah...cast them stones...cast them...so very typical... Mmhmmm Thoth, trying to attack me now, are you? First off, let me make it clear that I am as critical of the Catholic Church and other pretend-heroes and saints. It's not about human frailties. It's about hypocrisy I'm talking about. And yes, there are people who do not do such things and are true heroes. If you had an ounce of credibility, you wouldn't have attacked me and my parents in every single thread in which you disagreed with me. Anileve, and your point about Don Black is? That article has nothing to do with Stormfront... and the fact that Don Black put it on his website doesn't mean that it should not be taken into account anymore. "How can whites be allowed to marry blacks? Should that be tolerated?" so? it's their own race.. if you don't like it, don't listen to it or practice it. i don't see chinese people marrying non-chinese people (exceptions probably make up 0.1% of the entire population), are they racist too then? It's people's choice to discuss such things and to practice them. And you've been brainwashed by the interracial marriage thing, actually. To each their own. And that's my view. So who are you to criticise? Oh wait, you're the princess of i-know-it-all and smarter-than-thou... The fact that a very factual article was posted on here so that people would discuss, and the fact that this turned into a Dan-is-a-racist-let's-bash-him thread only gets my point across. That you have been brainwashed not to see the truth.. If that were a white person, I can assure you I wouldn't have been called racist. Seeing the truth about some black people does not mean that one is racist. Sheesh. The facts: Martin Luther King was a womanizer, and he plagiarized his speech, and a closet communist. I don't see any reason to have a "day" for him, nor for anyone else for that matter. Days are too precious... For once, I agree with Anonymouse. That guy talked about fornication and condemned it, yet he practised it.. I wonder why people don't view him in the same way they view Catholic priests...... because they are not black, eh? wake the hell up. you're brainwashed. and the proof to that is the fact that people did not value the article for what it was but went straight to the end of it and found the link to stormfront.. geez... that's cos a black man can't be bad, eh? hell no.. I wouldn't be against white pride per se, if it was about pride and not hate it's not about hate. it's about seeing one's culture and race being destroyed by people who claim there's still no equality while they have special privileges over white people... give them a patch of land, and they will demand your country.. classic example of that.. Hate is easy I guess, easier than actually learning about someone else, or taking to time to not generalize. and did you know that the majority of blacks have more hatred towards whites than the other way around? i'm not saying that as a bad thing.. i'm saying that it's only human to feel that way especially when slavery was abolished very recently.. if you see the looks black people give us and the way they talk to us, like they're superior or something, it just amazes you.. those are the people who would enslave white people if they had the chance. those are the people who are hypocrites. those are the people who should not want slavery cast on anyone, yet if given the chance, they would readily kill white people.. and for once, tell me what you think about the ratio of black to white with regards to sexual assault.. especially that USA is probably predominantly non-black.. what are the numbers like? sev-mard: you are right about the womanizer part.. it's pretty sad that people can't control their urges.. but it's not impossible. and that is why i make such a big deal out of it, because if someone had the will power to do what he's preaching, he would be able to do it.. that's my biggest problem with martin luther king. 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THOTH Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Mmhmmm Thoth, trying to attack me now, are you? First off, let me make it clear that I am as critical of the Catholic Church and other pretend-heroes and saints. It's not about human frailties. It's about hypocrisy I'm talking about. And yes, there are people who do not do such things and are true heroes. If you had an ounce of credibility, you wouldn't have attacked me and my parents in every single thread in which you disagreed with me. Anileve, and your point about Don Black is? That article has nothing to do with Stormfront... and the fact that Don Black put it on his website doesn't mean that it should not be taken into account anymore. so? it's their own race.. if you don't like it, don't listen to it or practice it. i don't see chinese people marrying non-chinese people (exceptions probably make up 0.1% of the entire population), are they racist too then? It's people's choice to discuss such things and to practice them. And you've been brainwashed by the interracial marriage thing, actually. To each their own. And that's my view. So who are you to criticise? Oh wait, you're the princess of i-know-it-all and smarter-than-thou... The fact that a very factual article was posted on here so that people would discuss, and the fact that this turned into a Dan-is-a-racist-let's-bash-him thread only gets my point across. That you have been brainwashed not to see the truth.. If that were a white person, I can assure you I wouldn't have been called racist. Seeing the truth about some black people does not mean that one is racist. Sheesh. For once, I agree with Anonymouse. That guy talked about fornication and condemned it, yet he practised it.. I wonder why people don't view him in the same way they view Catholic priests...... because they are not black, eh? wake the hell up. you're brainwashed. and the proof to that is the fact that people did not value the article for what it was but went straight to the end of it and found the link to stormfront.. geez... that's cos a black man can't be bad, eh? hell no.. it's not about hate. it's about seeing one's culture and race being destroyed by people who claim there's still no equality while they have special privileges over white people... give them a patch of land, and they will demand your country.. classic example of that.. and did you know that the majority of blacks have more hatred towards whites than the other way around? i'm not saying that as a bad thing.. i'm saying that it's only human to feel that way especially when slavery was abolished very recently.. if you see the looks black people give us and the way they talk to us, like they're superior or something, it just amazes you.. those are the people who would enslave white people if they had the chance. those are the people who are hypocrites. those are the people who should not want slavery cast on anyone, yet if given the chance, they would readily kill white people.. and for once, tell me what you think about the ratio of black to white with regards to sexual assault.. especially that USA is probably predominantly non-black.. what are the numbers like? sev-mard: you are right about the womanizer part.. it's pretty sad that people can't control their urges.. but it's not impossible. and that is why i make such a big deal out of it, because if someone had the will power to do what he's preaching, he would be able to do it.. that's my biggest problem with martin luther king. I real feel sorry for you Dan. To hold such attitudes...such resentment of others. And these statements of yours - like they are only upset about other people ruining their race etc...etc etc and you - an Armenian...and a gay man....on either count I think you wold understand better - but you don't..not at all..such a shame really... Yeah Dan..when those stormfront guys and others like them come around rounding "undesirebles" up - I'm sure that you will just be welcomed with open arms... And please prove to us that Blacks hate whights so much more then the opposite - or such...its all conjecture on your part...as if most folks just goiong around hating anyway...well most folks have better thinsg to do...unlike spoiled, bored, little rich kids locked in their parents basements... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 so? it's their own race.. if you don't like it, don't listen to it or practice it. i don't see chinese people marrying non-chinese people (exceptions probably make up 0.1% of the entire population), are they racist too then? It's people's choice to discuss such things and to practice them. And you've been brainwashed by the interracial marriage thing, actually. To each their own. And that's my view. So who are you to criticise? Oh wait, you're the princess of i-know-it-all and smarter-than-thou... And, since you like to put them up as a poster-child often, how come Jews practicing that makes Jews racist and Zionist but others not? Dan, that was king-size BS. It is one thing to say you yourself are going to marry such because of such and such reasons/preferences and it is another to suggest that there is something abominable about mixed marriages that others practice. Yes, it is offensive. This thing with blacks taking offensive about these topics because they've been left out of everything should be dropped. A white should also take offense on their possible preferences being frowned upon. I don't mean offense in the way in which adrenaline is released - but offense regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 it's not about hate. it's about seeing one's culture and race being destroyed by people who claim there's still no equality while they have special privileges over white people... give them a patch of land, and they will demand your country.. classic example of that.. and did you know that the majority of blacks have more hatred towards whites than the other way around? i'm not saying that as a bad thing.. i'm saying that it's only human to feel that way especially when slavery was abolished very recently.. if you see the looks black people give us and the way they talk to us, like they're superior or something, it just amazes you.. those are the people who would enslave white people if they had the chance. those are the people who are hypocrites. those are the people who should not want slavery cast on anyone, yet if given the chance, they would readily kill white people.. and for once, tell me what you think about the ratio of black to white with regards to sexual assault.. especially that USA is probably predominantly non-black.. what are the numbers like? Hey man, you're talking a lot of semi-crazy things here. How do you know what black people are thinking? If you know a couple a-holes in your area, who hate you on for maybe a variety of reasons, you can't attribute that to everyone. I'm nothing like what you said, none of my friends or family are like that either. Who wants to enslave white people, who wants to kill white people? The hell are you talking about? Get some numbers on sexual assualt, we can talk about crime, sure blacks do crime, many live in bad situations. But what kinds of crimes are put on teh news, the new is centered around giving people who don't even live in America, like you, the idea that's its a hell hole because of blacks. And all blacks are bad...get off it. More sinister and diabolical crimes are commited by non-blacks every second of every day, but you don't hear it. One of the highest impact groups for drug abuse(i'm talking coke, heroin and the like) are affluent white kids, get off it man. I don't defend 'bad' blacks, i don't defend criminal blacks, but i don't tolerate people acting like that's the only kind of blacks that exist. Can you imagine if I took the example of all the eshnyer rabiz cats I see in Glendale, Burbank and Pasadena as the reps of Haykakan culture?! It'd be a freakin' laugher. None of those cats are any 'better' than even my worse relatives. it's not about hate. it's about seeing one's culture and race being destroyed by people who claim there's still no equality Destroying your culture? Black people are destroying half britsh-half armos ppl's culture? How the hell is that happening? And if you mean you're youngsters following a stupid group of HipHoppers and Bling-blingers, that just makes them more stupid than the originators of that idiotic 'movement' Be true to your own words. Like you said "so? it's their own race.. if you don't like it, don't listen to it or practice it. " If ignorant black ppl look at you funny, get over it, keep moving. I get hate all the freakin' time, I just try and roll with it. Deal with REAL people, not idiots, or the ideas. And if you live around only idiots, then leave them all alone. Don't just start spewing hate, that's too damn easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 how come Jews practicing that makes Jews racist and Zionist but others not? tell you what. when you learn proper sentence construction, rephrase that sentence because i don't understand what it means. you seem to have mastered the art of bull$hitting and attacking/criticising everyone (whenever someone says something negative, you're there the next second.. have you posted anything that's not negative? do post a link to that thread if it exists).. Stormig, and just like i respect those who think gays are sinful, etc. (although I do try to convince them about my point, i still respect their views), you should learn to respect others' views. if people think interracial marriage is an abomination, so be it. what's next, programming people's minds and telling them what to think?! It's offensive.. yeah, so what? learn to deal with it. i've learned to deal with it all my life (or at least the years after which i realised about my orientation), so what makes you any better, or what makes that black person any better? sheesh.. suck it up. A white should also take offense on their possible preferences being frowned upon. who are you to tell people what they SHOULD take offense from? I real feel sorry for you Dan. To hold such attitudes...such resentment of others. I am not resentful towards anyone. Not even you.. heh.. And this thread was about Martin Luther King. So either discuss that, or just don't post in this thread. Got it? If I had wanted to make a racial comment about Martin Luther King, I would've posted this in the "Other" forum, not the Religion forum. and you - an Armenian...and a gay man....on either count I think you wold understand better - but you don't..not at all..such a shame really... Oh, that's utter BS. Don't bring that into each and every discussion.. It's one thing to "understand", it's another thing to see the truth. There is no correlation between speaking the truth and being racist. Just because the "bad guy" happens to be a black person this time doesn't mean that I'm being racist. And for that matter, why should I be understanding of someone like Martin Luther King Jr.? Why should I be understanding of pedo priests? Both were abusive. Luther King was a misogynist who beat up women and used them for nothing but sex. I guess when a white man beats up a woman, that's when it makes it to the news and is "accepted" as truth/fact.. eh? Yeah Dan..when those stormfront guys and others like them come around rounding "undesirebles" up - I'm sure that you will just be welcomed with open arms... first off, they do not advocate killing anyone. they only advocate having a country of their own without having to deal with other races. And they're supremacists you're saying? So what? who isn't? Armenians are the number ones in claiming to be better than the rest of them (the standard argument, we were the first ones who adopted Christianity, etc.) And just to make it clear to you, I don't have to accept all their views and agree with them. There is something called selective views. I can pick and choose whatever views they hold and adopt them. And if they're going to "round me up" with the rest of them, then so be it. There are higher things in life than just sex and sexuality. its all conjecture on your part...as if most folks just goiong around hating anyway...well most folks have better thinsg to do...unlike spoiled, bored, little rich kids locked in their parents basements... heh.. here we go again.. the basement comment. yeah, you seem to have better things to do, eh... let me ask you this, and you don't have to reply, since this is the last post in which I'm going to reply to irrelevant attacks and phrases -- have you ever been to any rallies against white supremacy? if you haven't, then shut it and stop pretending you're oh-so-knowledgeable. and if you don't have to deal with at least 30 black people in one day, i do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Sev-mard, how is that relevant to Martin Luther King Jr.? Like I said, stop bashing me for pasting an article I could've done a search on and found it from another f*ing source. sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get off my back already. Facts remain facts. Go read up on some stats. I don't remember the sources, but go look it up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 This reminds me of the movie, "American History X"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Dan, I think you need to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Dan, I think you need to play. I think you need to get off my back and start to learn some English. OK OK that was mean.. but can you people "chill"? I will change the source of the article if it makes you folks feel any better about it.. I didn't even know it was linked to Stormfront until someone said so.... sheesh.. *goes to find the same article on another website* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 (edited) Sev-mard, how is that relevant to Martin Luther King Jr.? Like I said, stop bashing me for pasting an article I could've done a search on and found it from another f*ing source. sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get off my back already. Facts remain facts. Go read up on some stats. I don't remember the sources, but go look it up!! Well I was responding to you responding to my responses? <_< You pay attention~ And you get some stats since you're the one claiming these numbers?! Right or wrong I don't really care, the actions of others are not mine to deal with, but at the same time, if facts remain facts, then show some stats. For statements that YOU ARE bringing up. That's Scholarship 101, you're in school man, you know better. Edited January 23, 2004 by sev-mard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Just because the "bad guy" happens to be a black person this time doesn't mean that I'm being racist. That's the thing man, I don't see you as racist just because the 'bad guy' is black. If others do, that's on them. Yet if you come off like you have, then you're kind of showing yourself to be a certain way. Do you feel what i'm saying? I don't care if Dr. King was a cad, so be it, he's his own man, I don't defend blacks just because they are black, but at the same time the way you talk, you cast that light on yourself. as ya'll say man, thaber chu chuni..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 have you ever been to any rallies against white supremacy? if you haven't, then shut it and stop pretending you're oh-so-knowledgeable. and if you don't have to deal with at least 30 black people in one day, i do. Dan you are a very troubled individual...you seem to loath yourself...any one who would claim to understand (even support/encourage it seems) And if they're going to "round me up" with the rest of them, then so be it. There are higher things in life than just sex and sexuality. ...well yeah..you've got some real isues here. OK - so King was not perfect..well I've heard that Ghandi wasn't such a good lay (actually never heard such..but anyway - these "charges" about King are largely overblown as well...)..and its irrelevant to the fact that King represents a movement - that changed our country - a movement based on non-violence - that revolutionized our nation and culture and finally brought a significant portion of our population rights it had been previously denied (and worse)...well this may mean nothing to you - but I find it to be very significant. Oh and yes Dan - i have been inviolved in protets against white supremicists and related (you may not have known that my thesis directly concerned the leadership of the civil rights movement (nationaly anf locally here) - and its transformation through the 60's and 70's. So yeah - i've been very involved in these issues. And yes - i work with black people every day, have had several work for me - some of the finest folks I have ever known - intelligent, capable, motivated and friendly...and when do you come accross these 30 black people a day Dan - on the bus? Yeah i'm sure that you are strking up conversations and talking with them about things..sports, politics, their families etc...yeah quite sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 sev-mard: i was replying to the replies that were a result of some stupid dumbass remark about the source of the article. But here's some stats, "enjoy" the read: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hatecm.htm Anti-White biased incidents in 1995: 1,226 Anti-Black biased incidents in 1995: 2,988 Now take a look at the population division in 1995, between black and white (non-hispanic): http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/r...abs95/tab01.txt Here's another source for the main article: http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fe...l?msg_id=00BfC2 http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1021 and when do you come accross these 30 black people a day Dan - on the bus? Yeah i'm sure that you are strking up conversations and talking with them about things..sports, politics, their families etc...yeah quite sure.. actually no.. i've talked with a lot of them, and particularly one black girl who keeps coming to the gay group at university, and talking about how whites are racist and how she hates them.... i'm probably the only white person in there, most of them being jewish... so they don't really care.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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