hyegirl Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Hello Everyone, I am new on this forum and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say regarding the topic below. How can Armenian guys living in the U.S. go for a visit to Armenia and while there, get married all in a matter of less than a couple of weeks ? How can this relationship be real and meaningful in such a short time as to lead to marriage ? Is it just convenience for the guy and economic desperation for the girl that constitutes their decision to marry ? How can it be more that just that in such a short time. This has been baffling me. I'd love to hear what you guys have to say regarding this trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valantina Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Hello Everyone, I am new on this forum Helloo to you too and Welcome i hope you have a Great time here How can Armenian guys living in the U.S. go for a visit to Armenia and while there, get married all in a matter of less than a couple of weeks ? Personaly i would never do it and i disagree with the idea! Because marriage "to me" is not just about marrying a Girl or a Guy who are Less experienced in life or never gone out before with other people!! Iam Chaldean "Assyrian" and i know how our triditions are Especialy when it comes to marriage and family triditions How can this relationship be real and meaningful in such a short time as to lead to marriage ? i believe very FEW couples can end up into a successful relationship "in that situations!" , to built a Real relationship takes time and takes Two people, one team, and one HAND to built a TRUE & meaningful relationship! i also think that those who get married overseas in such a short time,... - are either reaching their 30's who have enough FUN in life and FINALY want to settle with a Good housewife! or so.. <_< & they think, they r getting old and havent met the right one yet, so maybe if they get married overseas, could be their Right Person! or - are too stricked and want to merry a Virgin girl from a good family and be a good HOUSEWIFE! i could understand the situations of people who are overseas, they just want to live in a settled country, have their Rights and have their say count!! maybe that is why they accept ... Other wise i dont BELIEVE its LOVE that is even WORSE than internet love lol PS: We have many of our Guys / Girls going overseas for marriage, but when we hear a member of our community is MARRYING a stranger man or woman .. then we talk about them! This is just my opnion and i hope no one got offended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armo77 Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 what a long Jareeda post... I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 welcome to the forum, hyegirl! i don't know about any cases of Armenian guys going to Armenia and coming back with a bride lol, so I'm afraid I don't have much to say on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 it's a talent? i think it's just the way they were raised...mothers telling them obey and please your husband even if you don't like it...so there will be no fights etc...so davo they're not THAT happy i don't understand how they can get married in such a short time either...they can't find virgins or nice girls in USA so maybe some relative found a nice girl who's "tane mnatsats" who's hamest, never been out of the house, knows nothing about life (as people say) and he saw her...she's pretty so he'll take her and the girl has nothing better to do so she agrees to marry him..also she will be living in the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyegirl Posted January 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 .... marriage of convenience This is so sad. Marriage is suppose to be so much more than convenience. No wonder you see a lot of Armenian couples who have been married for years and years, have kids and yet seem so disconnected with each other. How can this type of a marriage be fullfilling ? Seems to me that guys who marry in this manner are pathetic losers who don't know the meaning of LOVE... it is lust and not love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Also it's some kind of macho power tour, wanting to control somebody who is projected as being weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 yeah it's too bad that they think you can only get married once...because of that they don't leave their stupid husbands but the man sure dose leave his wife and kids... sorry i diss most hayastantsi guys... classmates, cousins, other relatives made me think differently about them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 well actually i thought most Armenians think marriage is supposed to be sacred and you should get married only once but when you have a bad marriage why stick with that person? because that's your destiny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyegirl Posted January 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 A good relationship takes time to bond properly. It is work and takes time to mature relationships into marriage. Oh.. and speaking of traditions... it it true that in Armenia, the girls parents will not allow their daughter to go out with a guy without the guy going to the parents and perfoming the "Khosk Khap" ritual. So, essentially, the guy and the girl are forced to promise to marry each other before they have any sort of a relationship. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 yeah that happens a lot...but they secretly date most of the time lol and ones who go to uni are lucky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 well i was talking about those "arranged" kind of marriages? "i don't understand how they can get married in such a short time either...they can't find virgins or nice girls in USA so maybe some relative found a nice girl who's "tane mnatsats" who's hamest, never been out of the house, knows nothing about life (as people say) and he saw her...she's pretty so he'll take her and the girl has nothing better to do so she agrees to marry him..also she will be living in the U.S. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyegirl Posted January 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 What do you mean by axchik paxcnen ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyegirl Posted January 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Thanks Davo. Glad to hear that that was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyegirl Posted January 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 You may find this of interest... Armenian Couples Get Engaged Using Centuries-Old Tradition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valantina Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 some realy good Replies there and i like what you said in your first post Davo0074_NL and if that is the CASE i totaly agree with idea, BUT i only hate when guys who dont take it serious and just go for looks to show their friends they got the prettiest girl ...so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 ... Is it just convenience for the guy and economic desperation for the girl that constitutes their decision to marry ? Sounds to me more like desparation for the guy and economic convenience for the girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Sounds to me more like desparation for the guy and economic convenience for the girl I agree with you Sip. That's why more couples end up getting a divorce in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyegirl Posted January 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 I suppose that LOVE is the last thing being considered in these kind of arrangements. It's all a big game and each party is playing by the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 davo i think you posted in the wrong place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 How can Armenian guys living in the U.S. go for a visit to Armenia and while there, get married all in a matter of less than a couple of weeks ? How can this relationship be real and meaningful in such a short time as to lead to marriage ? Is it just convenience for the guy and economic desperation for the girl that constitutes their decision to marry ? How can it be more that just that in such a short time. The reason guys travel all the way to Armenia is to find a "Hamest" wife. Guys seem to believe gals who grew up here at the states are spoiled and out of control. All they want is a pretty face who would do anything they "ask" But they have no idea that most girls only marry them for a free ticket to America. I've heard stories where the girl/guy leave their spouse once they become a legal resident. I know this one guy whose all into drugs. He doesn't even work, or have any intentions of working. Anyway, he went to Armenia and found a girl to marry. This girl has no idea what or who this guy is, the only thing she sees is how wonderful it would be to move to the States. The guys Mom even called to worn the girl about the danger she was getting herself into. But she was blinded with moving to the America. It's unfortunate how love is disappearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyegirl Posted January 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Just recently, a friend of a friend - a middle aged (47 yrs. old), bald, overweight guy went to Armenia and married a 22 year old, tall skinny girl from Yerevan. Now, don't tell me this is LOVE I guess I should mention that the guy is a doctor. Can you imagine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 It's unfortunate how love is disappearing. Dont say that extrahye, your scaring me.. LOL.. to be honest with you, my parents are always hinting at me going on a tour to armenia,, and there are lotsa hamest nice real armenian girls there. I told them i wont tour armenia until i was engaged here in the states, by someone i love and loves me back, and its not for money, looks, or moving to america, its Love... I dont see why guys would have to unless they are desparate, or want a girl who they can beat up on, (not physically but emotional, mental etc..) My parents wont get what they want because they are being selfish,, i guess in a sense they are afraid of Armenian girls here in CA, and Glendale specifically... I tell them to bug off, and butt out, its my life and i dont care if i could marry the most beautiful girl in Armenia, i wouldnt be happy... Lately if they bring it up, i just joke about it and say,, I gonna be single my whole life" or " why i gota go to armenia,, i not that ugly" lol.. or "You can have my brother to get one from Armenia, he has no hope here" lol.... anyhow, i dont think its wrong unless its desperado!!! lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 lol Davo, you confused me a little bit there, buddy.. and i think you were talking to yourself anyway lol.. split personality disorder perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 It's unfortunate how love is disappearing. Is love really "disappearing" or did it never even really exist the way fairy tales , hollywood movies, and romance novels depict it? I mean before 50-60 years ago, doesn't sound to me like love was the reason for marriage. And now, people are more confused than ever about what love was, is, will be, and is supposed to be. So maybe, just maybe, it's not really "disappearing" at all! Maybe it was never really there to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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