Twilight Bark Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 ... So the brain, left with only one eye, and looking only at the TV screen, will re-contruct the scene in 3D. I think that's clear, no? I figured as much, Vava. I am just wondering what percentage of the population is "wired" to do that. It would be interesting to know. Maybe there is an idea for a nice little research article here, but probably someone somewhere already did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Close one eye, and look at the picture again. See if you'll see it more "3D". My brain apparently turns on a different mechanism to synthesize a "3D" vision from other depth cues when I close one eye. I don't know how common this is. Try it with a clear TV picture as well (which may work even better since the depth cues are more abundant due to motion). Let's see what percentage of people here can see what I mean. That is amazing, you are absolutely right the photo does become more enhanced with one eye closed. I guess it is the mere focus and as the spectrum of the viewing area decreases more details seem to be apparent. Think of a particular photo of a figure positioned amidst a colorful and background of various surrounding and then think of the figure positioned in the center of a black background. More details will be noticed when the figure is the centerfold and the light is focused on the subject. Thus both of our eyes are "accustomed" to encompass a rather larger view and grasp our surroundings simultaneously, thus we lose the perception of the detail. As with everything else in our lives. As for Armats photo it's a mere lighting that changes a view of something you wouldn't otherwise really pay attention to, I guess the light and shadow brings out the emphasis in little details. The beauty of photography! Damn, I wish I had some sort of an artistic talent. All I was able to draw is girls with large triangular heads and although for some period I remained proud of my glorious creations, I was later traumatized for life and abandoned my brush forever when my grandmother called my princesses "Defected with large heads". *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Bark Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 although for some period I remained proud of my glorious creations, I was later traumatized for life and abandoned my brush forever when my grandmother called my princesses "Defected with large heads". *sigh* You should read this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 You should read this. I don't know TB, I think it's hopeless for me. I still hear my Grandma's words echoing in my mind, I think I need therapy before I can pick up a brush again. Thanks for your efforts though I will look into the book, I much rather read about a human brain, any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Queen of Angels by Grag Bear..yeah its Sci - Fi - but believ me - it and its sequal Slant will very much get you thinking. You will apreciate both - very much - believe me...and go ahead..you can thank me now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 WEll then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Bark Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 I don't know TB, I think it's hopeless for me. I still hear my Grandma's words echoing in my mind, I think I need therapy before I can pick up a brush again. Thanks for your efforts though I will look into the book, I much rather read about a human brain, any suggestions? No, it's not hopeless. You can draw very well. Anybody can. What cannot be guaranteed is the creativity part. I would think that the best way to chase away your grandma's voice is to prove that you can draw. And there is no way that you cannot draw. You can. Your grandma's negative attitude is unfortunately encoutered all too often in Armenian social and family life. If there is one thing that the Armenian culture needs to borrow from the American culture is the positive, optimistic, "you can do it" attitude. As for what to read about the human brain, I don't have any suggestions. It has not been in my focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 TB - a very good post...very pertinant...for us Armenians...powerfulm noteworthy, necessary (certainly for some)..thank you... dude... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 No, it's not hopeless. You can draw very well. Anybody can. What cannot be guaranteed is the creativity part. I would think that the best way to chase away your grandma's voice is to prove that you can draw. And there is no way that you cannot draw. You can. Your grandma's negative attitude is unfortunately encoutered all too often in Armenian social and family life. If there is one thing that the Armenian culture needs to borrow from the American culture is the positive, optimistic, "you can do it" attitude. As for what to read about the human brain, I don't have any suggestions. It has not been in my focus. TB, how true indeed, thanks for your inspirational words! My grandmas ghost only echoes when I have a bit of wine in my system other than that drawing will never be my talent although I can watch artists for days, I am so fascinated by watching other people draw that it might become quite dangerous... Now what concerns learning some sort of an art form, I much rather learn how to body paint, a useful tool that can be applied in various instances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 ... I much rather learn how to body paint, a useful tool that can be applied in various instances. Certainly very useful Ani! I can't think of a better skill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Now, about the perception thing - Armat's photo would be an excellent example as a result of the very shallow depth of field - the entire background is obscured and out of focus, emphasizing the differentiation between subject and environment. With large apertures (I believe he mentioned f1.2) you can limit the depth of field, attracting the eye to the subject. This heightened sense of defferentiation between foreground and background likely stimulates the brain's capacity for the 3D recontruction when viewing with only one eye. Thanks TB, and Armat That was fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Now, about the perception thing - Armat's photo would be an excellent example as a result of the very shallow depth of field - the entire background is obscured and out of focus, emphasizing the differentiation between subject and environment. With large apertures (I believe he mentioned f1.2) you can limit the depth of field, attracting the eye to the subject. This heightened sense of defferentiation between foreground and background likely stimulates the brain's capacity for the 3D recontruction when viewing with only one eye. Thanks TB, and Armat That was fun Vava very good explanation! Ani jan, I got a great inexpensive (reletive)digi camera which uses great canon lense.Most Auto photos bring everything in focus hence they look boring.I finally had the motivation to actually take manual photos.Try this. Take your digi camera and place a small object and take many pictures by using different set ups and write down the set up combos in case if you like the result you can duplicate it again. Try to really understand your camera's controls and get back with your results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted January 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 I like the macro mode on my camera. Even without any manual settings need to learn to use it the right way. I couldn't get all the pins in focus. http://s93760412.onlinehome.us/pics/kaktus.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 And that's EXACTLY whta I meant by limiting depth of field BTW Sasun don't you ever get away from your PC? (I like the keyboard background in the pic ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Since we are putting pics from our digital cameras I like to put a few from mine. I own a Fuji 6800. it is a bit old not 2+ years, but still a great camera, and I think one of the best looking out there. The images will be much less quality than originals as I had to shrink them http://www.azat.net/General/thumbnails/thumb_DSCF0188.JPGhttp://www.azat.net/General/thumbnails/thumb_DSCF0189.JPGhttp://www.azat.net/General/thumbnails/thumb_DSCF0190.JPGhttp://www.azat.net/General/thumbnails/thumb_DSCF0203.JPGhttp://www.azat.net/General/thumbnails/thumb_DSCF0206.JPG http://www.azat.net/General/thumbnails/thumb_DSCF0220.JPGhttp://www.azat.net/General/thumbnails/thumb_DSCF0614.JPGhttp://www.azat.net/General/thumbnails/thumb_DSCF0627.JPGhttp://www.azat.net/General/thumbnails/thumb_DSCF0609.JPG BTW: all the flowers and trees are from my yard. Oh did I ever tell you guys how much I hate squirrels. I use to have over 500 bulbs of really exotic tulips(even bought a refrigerator for the basement to house the bulbs in the summer, but last year few stupid squirrels ate 90% of the bulbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted February 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 BTW Sasun don't you ever get away from your PC? Sometimes I do, then I feel very unhappy and jump right back to my PC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted February 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Nice, nice flowers Azat So you are growing flowers in you yard? good for you must be a really pleasant hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Great pics Azat! I love the glass bricks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Yes I do Sasun jan. What is a glass brick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Yes I do Sasun jan. What is a glass brick? ooops! They looked like glass bricks in the Thumnails, but in fact they're just windows! Sorry Azat jan, it was late See below to see what I'm talking about: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 no it is just very dirty windows. I have one from the following year that is super clean and much prettier picture. I will post it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 (edited) Azat jan some of your flower pictures are not sharp enough.Do you have a flower mode shot built in?Like best shot library?I think auto focus does not do a good close ups in general.Here is some tulips from my garden shot by Casio4.1mgx best shot flower mode. Edited February 1, 2004 by Armat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armat Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Here I was trying to have a nagative foregroung and a positive background.Don't ask me why my son is holding the stick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Armat jan, your boy looks just like my older brother when he was around that age. Looks great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 http://www.azat.net/temp/DSCF0986.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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