vava Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 For those who consider the radio and bar Latin music the best Latin music available, consider your arrogance the main source of your antangonism towards this music. I am in complete agreement with Armen here. I find it quite surprising that some people in this and other threads find most Odars 'ignorant' or 'narrow-minded' for having next to no knowledge about Armenians, and Armenians customs/culture and yet, they dismiss a VERY BROAD genre of music (latin) based on very limited exposure to mass-marketed pop music. The latin music decribed by Armen (and this is just the tip of the iceberg) are a few examples of Cuban music, which is generally very touching, melodic & rythmic. I enjoy it very much. And for your info, Here's an article on Company Segundo who passed away this year at the age of 95. There's some audio and video on the site. Just a couple of days ago, pianist Reuben Gonzalez also died - at the age of 84. Here's the BBC article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted December 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Yes, Vava that was just the tip of iceberg. Thanks for the links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 also found THIS SITE containing the entire discography of the musicians involved in the Buena Vista Social Club. (for those who are interested) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted December 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Nice site Vava. I like when the piano goes in one rythm with the mixture of percussions and the brass group intervenes occasionaly with loud and impulsive noise. Or the Guantanamera version of the BVSC. They play it with a group of guitars and a flute improvisation. Fantastic stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 also found THIS SITE containing the entire discography of the musicians involved in the Buena Vista Social Club. (for those who are interested) If my memory is right I saw BVSC at biddles back in February or late January in Montreal, in fact we are a very big fan of Cuban, salsa music, also do you guys came across or heard of MANGO SANTAMARIA? Vava are you sure Biddles changed there name séance Charlie died? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 If my memory is right I saw BVSC at biddles back in February or late January in Montreal, in fact we are a very big fan of Cuban, salsa music, also do you guys came across or heard of MANGO SANTAMARIA? Vava are you sure Biddles changed there name séance Charlie died? Edward jan, Magno Santamaria sounds familiar - I think it's more Salsa and Cumbia, but I'm not too sure. Definitely rings a bell, though. Do you have any examples? I doubt that BVSC (as a whole) would have played at Biddles - maybe one member. The last they came to Montreal - (they also came during the Jazz Festival as the Afro-Cuban All Stars) they filled up the Spectrum. They have also sold-out Metropolis; Biddles would be much too small to accomodate the crowd. And yes, I go by Biddles nearly once a week, and outside, there is no indiciation of the name Biddle's on the sign. (Although the look is quite similar and the sign look nearly identical.) I have a feeling there was some sort of legal rangling between the estate/family and the new owners of the club. But then again, this is just conjecture on my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Edward, I posted the question on a local foodie forum - should have a definitive answer about Biddles shortly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Barev vava jan I searched on the net for some mp3's apparently music industry had taken a tight grip on this, anyhow check out in here and listen to some of the trucks, I'm sure you'll like it, séance you are a jazz fan also there are various Latin artists in there as well. http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2890712 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Shnorakalem Edward jan - yes it's nice! Some of the arrangements recall Tito Puente... lots of fun. Here's the info you were looking for about Biddles: As you might know Charlie Biddle passed away recently from cancer. While Charlie was alive, the owner of Biddles, George Durst, paid an annual amount to Charlie to use his name on the marquee. After Charlie died the family requested to receive the annual fee as the owner was going to continue to use the Biddle name. The owner refused and the family sued. So finally the name was changed to the "House Of Jazz" Besides that everything else is still pretty much the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 i have the Alabina CD its pretty "listenable" and "sing-to-able" also--haha i sing to it too much in the car--- but thats the only thing that i listen to that comes close to latin music.....but i do have a weird choice of music--wide ranges of genres i listen 2--oldies, heavy metal, rock, pop,classical, love songs...blah blah blah.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 I have to disagree with people who are focused on the idea that Latin music is mainly composed of meringue and salsa. There are so many great genres in Latin music that hold such flavorful versatility. Cuban music is magical: such as Buena Vista Social Club, the music possesses so much soul and that old school melody with sultry ballads, I practically don’t know anyone who wasn’t intrigued by it. Most Cuban music is very passionate. Also Brazilian music, such as samba with it’s catchy thrilling beat, that makes one want to enroll into dancing school to learn the art of movement that Brazilians are so known for. Bossa Nova is another incredible genre of Latin Music with incredible singers such as Cesaria Evora, if you guys never heard her music I strongly recommend you to do so, start with Sodade and Carnaval De Sao Vicente (which has her smooth vocals yet a very intriguing Brazilian beat that sends your body into a frenzy) all of her music is equal to one of a magic spell, with rhythmical ballads and a fusion of African Blues and Portuguese fado. Also check out Bebel Gilberto, Caetano Veloso, Paulinho Mosja and Nara Leao. All of them succeed at creating an illusion of the smell of the sea, sand on your feet and the sun on your back. For something more exotic, upbeat and sexy (guaranteed you will agree), Gotan Project is awesome! It’s a blend of chillout, authentic tango, funky jazz beats with lots of imagination. If you are planning to create that seductive atmosphere with wine and chocolate and your special someone that’s the way to go, the best thing is that it won’t interfere with your conversation, rather it may inspire an exchange of intimate looks. Or just to create a relaxing evening with wine and cigarettes and a bubble bath in solitude it’s great too. It’s my personal favorite. For Spanish rock check out Mana or Luz Casal, Mai Meneses, Juanes or my very favorite Los Aterciopelados. If you follow my list I guarantee that it will turn you from the haters of Latin music into absolute devotees. I feel like some damn critic on Amazon.com. But seriously meringue and salsa are not the only representatives of Latin Music, au contraire it’s quite rich and diverse and caters to everyone’s tastes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 thanx anileve im always into trying new things and open minded when it comes to music~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 You're welcome dear, make sure to get Gotan Project and a sexy Argentinean or Armenian or both (David Nalbandian) to share the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 Anileve - the Gotan CD is brilliant - I haven't taken it out of my car for months! and there you are: another latin genre that is at once romantic, rhythmic, and magical - the Tango. I would just love to learn - mind you it's a lot more complex than the simple salsa/merengue Don't know if my feet could handle all that coordination. Not sure if Evora is actually bossa nova, though it certainly sounds similar - I think her music is more portugese influenced (Fado). She's from Capo Verde, and if i'm not mistaken the style is called Morna (or Coladera/Coladero??) Wonderfully soothing and melancholic - and hopeful too. thanks for bringing it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 And perhaps you of Manu Ciao? (formerly of Les Manu Negras) a mix of several styles - at once eclectic, yet surprisingly simply & catchy not sure if it's latin per se - but there's definitely a latin component. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Anileve - the Gotan CD is brilliant - I haven't taken it out of my car for months! and there you are: another latin genre that is at once romantic, rhythmic, and magical - the Tango. I would just love to learn - mind you it's a lot more complex than the simple salsa/merengue Don't know if my feet could handle all that coordination. Not sure if Evora is actually bossa nova, though it certainly sounds similar - I think her music is more portugese influenced (Fado). She's from Capo Verde, and if i'm not mistaken the style is called Morna (or Coladera/Coladero??) Wonderfully soothing and melancholic - and hopeful too. thanks for bringing it up Tango is incredible! And is so complicated to dance to, there is this whole art behind balancing your body and maintaining a proper posture. Salsa is a bit complex as well, if we are speaking of mastering salsa and not just the basic movement to impress non-Latin people of your international knowledge. The easiest one to dance is meringue, just a simple movement of hips, and not much footwork. Samba is hell, I cannot not shake my hips and move my legs simultaneously with that speed even if it was a matter of life and death. You are right Evora is not Bossa Nova, I jumped ahead of myself. Her music is a fusion of Samba, fado and African Blues. Nonetheless it's very invigorating and she is Brazilian, thus that could be categorized as Latin music. Check out my favorite song by her Carnaval de Sao Vicente, it's breathtaking and very vitalizing, the beats send your body into this uncontrollable convulsion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted February 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Bought two new CDs. First - Ibrahim Ferrer's album "Buenos Hermanos". The first song "La Musica Cubana" is fantastic. Second - Poncho Sanches "Watermelon Man", never knew that was the song in the Armenian movie "Tghamardik". In the part when Frunzik Mkrtchian comes to the dormitory where his son's girlfriend lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted September 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 http://www.mestizo.org/progs/p23.jpg http://www.terra.com/specials/latingrammy/cachao.html Israel ¨Cachao¨ Lopez AP Cuban musician Israel “Cachao” Lopez, once a forgotten man in communist Cuba’s music scene, has remerged as one of the most important men in Latin music. Cachao is credited with being one of the founding fathers of the hypnotic sound of the mambo. The mambo was responsible for bringing great fame to Cuban music. After all these years, Cachao is being paid his respect. His album Cuba Linda has been nominated for Best Tropical Performance at the 1st Annual Latin Grammy Awards in Los Angeles. Cachao, at 81 years of age, was in danger of living out his life without any well-deserved glory. He was working in the Communist system without any of the privilege he had become accustomed to before Castro. In the 1980's he decided to immigrate to Miami and live with relatives. Cachao lived in Miami for eight years in anonymity. A call then came from Cuban actor Andy Garcia. Garcia, a long-time fan of Cachao, was interested in getting together with the musician for a documentary. The two artists collaborated and the end result was the highly acclaimed documentary, Cachao….Como Su Ritmo No Hay Dos in 1993. The film caused such a stir that Cachao was asked to perform at Radio City Music Hall in New York Cith that same year. While living in Cuba, Cachao specialized in afro-Cuban dance music and became a national star. In 1938 Cachao unleashed the mambo, and it became an instant hit. For the next twenty years the mambo's sound traveled the globe, played by musicians of all origins. Today Cachao lives in Miami, and has been working with fellow Grammy nominee Emilio Estefan. In fact, his Grammy-nominated album Cuba Linda was produced by Estefan, and the mix enginbeer was the same man who gave Cachao new life, Andy Garcia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 I listen to a wide variety of Latin music, mostly thanks to a hispanic girlfriend of mine. Groups/Singers I listen to include The Gypsy Kings (not really latin, but close enough), Alabina, Vicente Fernandez, Pepe Aguilar, Lupillo Rivera, Celia Cruz, El Gran Combo and Sonora Carrusel. The last 3 being Salsa singers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Nice to see another Latin Music fan. Welcome to HF Emil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Nice to see another Latin Music fan. Welcome to HF Emil style_images/master/snapback.png Thanks for the welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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