bellthecat Posted May 28, 2001 Report Share Posted May 28, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Kazza:Hi people- I'm back. AND did you miss me? Well anyway, I'd like to ask you a question about Turkish coffee. or is it greek, or armenian cofee? This is the thing, SO many people like to argue to call it different things, or as I call it- just middle eastern coffee. What I'd call it is probably on the list of banned words - it is horrible stuff. But, yes I did miss you!Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted May 29, 2001 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 Hi people- I'm back. AND did you miss me? Well anyway, I'd like to ask you a question about Turkish coffee. or is it greek, or armenian cofee? This is the thing, SO many people like to argue to call it different things, or as I call it- just middle eastern coffee. The greeks like to "read" their coffee- pretty much like reading tea leaves. If you don't know what I am talking about, this is how you "read your fortune using strong coffee. One reading is suppossed to represent what you are thinking while drinking the cup, and you are npot supposed to make another reading until at least a week on. Anyway, what you do is drink three quaters of it, then turn the cup upside don, holding the saucer over it until its placed in the tanble(make sure you dont drink too much but not too little, or it get's messy.) then whan you are sure it's drained, let the "saucerer" of the group look inside the cup and tell you what he/she sees-- you will see little marks where the cofee has run. From this you try to make out little shpes. For exaplme, if you see a plane, the saucerer could make our t you are a bout to go on holiday. Or that you will go on a journey. The person reading can make whatever they like if it really. It's not serious, but it can be fun- you could get a reading that some times IS very perceptive! I tried reading it myself, as I was sitting in my back garden today. I couldnt read it well this was my first go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted May 29, 2001 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 Cheers! You're a geezer! I missed you all too - I couldnt resist coming back, the lure of the hye forum is too much for me.. It tastes nice ONLY if you know the correct way to make it. it's got to be perfect, or nothing at all. Take a SMALL cup of water, a teaspoon of the stuff, boil it in a samll saucepan till it begins to froth, stir, then pour into the cup, adding a teaspoon of sugar, as/if required. Is this a tradition amongst you people as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 Whether it deserves to be called Turkish or not is another matter, though the art of making that coffee was refined in Istanbul. It is just that - Turkish coffee. Arguing about it is like arguing about French fries... Anyone can make them, yes, but they are called French fries.Looking up your fortune, yeah. First you invert the cup on the saucer, leave it like that for a while, let that ashy stuff sink in some... Then you turn it up, look at it, make up stuff... After you're done with that, drip the remaining ash (I mean, really - no matter how allegedly well prepared, I've never liked that stuff) back into the cup, see if you can trace "roads" on the saucer and how many or something... Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 Coffee: "Although they be destitute of Taverns, yet they have their coffa-houses, which something resemble them. There sit they chatting most of the day, and sippe of a drink called coffa, in little china dishes, as hot as they can suffer it, black as soot and tasting not much unlike it" from "A description of Constantinople in 1610" by George Sandys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted May 29, 2001 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 quote:Originally posted by bellthecat:Coffee:" black as soot and tasting not much unlike it"from "A description of Constantinople in 1610" by George Sandys.Oh WHAATT? The silly man! You two, I guess it's not so much a case of it being the taste (But I like it anyway becasue I like really strong tastes) But the caffeine adiction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted May 29, 2001 Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 Hey, KAzza, almost real-time chat here! Why are you up so late - i'm off to bed soon. The same author has a nice (or nasty, depending on your position) little thing to say about Turkish baths as well. Dare I post it? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted May 29, 2001 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2001 well- you see, It's 1 AM where I am - London - What time is it where you are? It seems this man has an answer for eveything! why, doesnt he like turkish baths? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Coffee comes from Ethiopia, doesn't it?I remember being told that there was this goat herd who saw his goats going boing boing boing when they ate the beans... Tried some himself, etc... Don't know how true that is.I don't like coffee. Not Turkish, not Brazilian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted May 30, 2001 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Thorny Rose:Coffee comes from Ethiopia, doesn't it?"Strong black coffee, is my name" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted May 30, 2001 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 I beleive that the red fruit teas are red coffee from mars from the armo community that settled there and they make it from the surface Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 There is a company here, Kocatepe Kurukahvecisi, that specializes in coffee and coffee-related stuff. It has its own coffee house and I remember reading something there, this alleged Brazilian saying, that coffee should be darker than night, hotter than hell, and sweeter than woman. Boghosinho, I don't remember hearing such in Portuguese. Can you clarify that up for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted May 30, 2001 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Thorny Rose:and sweeter than woman. Aaaaah, you see? Nothing can possibly live up to that! But this coffee sounds magic in a cup, the description, is very passionate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffiaharonian Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Gia sou kazoulini, Welcome back, even though I nerver figured out why you departed in the first place! You seem to be more active and more talkative than before. That is a good sign.Maybe I should take a leave of absence for a week or so! If you wish to have your coffee read, come over to my place and my mom will oblige you. BTW, does anyone know where does the coffee originate from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Kazza:well- you see, It's 1 AM where I am - London - What time is it where you are?Check your clocks Kazza! I posted my last comment at 2.15 AM, so you must have been writing at 2.45 AM (or is London time different from the rest of Britain )Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazza Posted May 30, 2001 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 Well-, That wasn't the presise time but thereabouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 isn't it intersting that only we, Armenians call coffee defferently? surj.in all other languages, as far as i know, it sounds something like coffee, cafe, ghayfa, cofe,....... does anybody know why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Maybe because our elders like to drink them like water(shour) and become later sourj, the water of our elders ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Thorny Rose:There is a company here, Kocatepe Kurukahvecisi, that specializes in coffee and coffee-related stuff. It has its own coffee house and I remember reading something there, this alleged Brazilian saying, that coffee should be darker than night, hotter than hell, and sweeter than woman. Boghosinho, I don't remember hearing such in Portuguese. Can you clarify that up for me?Dear Filiz,I confess that I have never heard such saying. In any case please congratulate the people at that place for thier crafty marketing. There is no rule for drinking coffee. Personally it has to be either expresso or Turkish (Oh my God, I said that). Actually in Brazil it is called syrian coffee; pita bread is called syrian bread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Harut:isn't it intersting that only we, Armenians call coffee defferently? surj.in all other languages, as far as i know, it sounds something like coffee, cafe, ghayfa, cofe,.......does anybody know why?This is a vey interestin question...let me have a look. Also tea has mostly two "types" of names: either tea, the, tee or shay, cha, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Yeah, I know... Pao sirio... I remember being asked that by a woman of Arab origins - she had asked if we ate that because we were Turkish. I didn't know Portuguese that well at the time, and I couldn't quite understand what she said; it sounded like one word to me. I guess I woulda understood it if it had been pao siriano as I would have been expecting at the time... ehehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 The armenians were the ones who brought Coffe To France, and established the first café. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 quote:Originally posted by koko:The armenians were the ones who brought Coffe To France, and established the first café.are you serious?or another joke?if it is true then it's great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koko Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 It's all written in Marshall Langs "Armenians, A people in Exile". My Favorite history book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted November 3, 2001 Report Share Posted November 3, 2001 Just wondering... Does "dolma" mean anything in Armenian or is it just a coincidence that it was already an Anatolian item with a name that has a meaning in Turkish although not in any other (perhaps)? The ingredients point out that it must be pretty Anatolian (and not Turkic per se) - the pine nuts, the li'l grape-lets, the grape (or cabbage) leaves (or cored eggplant), olive oil, etc. But is it ancient or relatively new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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