Artur Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 Good topic to discuss for ARMENIANS. What kind of idiot will allow his wife smoke???! ))))))))))))))))))))) I mean first of all it is not nice for a girl to smoke.Second, God forbid, if she is a pregnant or about to have a kid, would have the worst consequences that is possible to imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 In Peter Balakian's "Black Dog of Fate," you read about his aunt (or was it his grandmother? I think so) smoking, explaining that it is a custom in the "old country" for wisened women to smoke.You'r too extreme, like your Afghani friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 This was probably the critical issue that destroyed my marriage. Smoking is a disgusting habit. NO men or women should smoke. When she took up the habit I could nor live with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anahid Takouhi Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 Better for her to find a smoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by khodja:This was probably the critical issue that destroyed my marriage. Smoking is a disgusting habit. NO men or women should smoke. When she took up the habit I could nor live with her.So I'm not the only one... My boyfriend started recently, though he smokes only once in a while, from what I gather - certainly not when I am around, 'cuz I wouldn't be able to stand the sight!I didn't dump him, though... Should I? eheheheI found out about it when I kissed him one day - and I was like, "What do you smell???" He didn't tell me at first - only after I pounded on his head! GRrrrrrrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Posted October 6, 2001 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 Thorny, why do you care if i am as you say extreme? There are more circassian guys who are way more extreme than me. I mean what is your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigrannesIII Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Artur:Good topic to discuss for ARMENIANS.What kind of idiot will allow his wife smoke???! )))))))))))))))))))))I mean first of all it is not nice for a girl to smoke.Second, God forbid, if she is a pregnant or about to have a kid, would have the worst consequences that is possible to imagine.men should set the example by not smoking. it's disgusting...... minus the occaisional cigar for formal purposes, but never would I do such in front of my children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 She tried to hide it from me. She would sneak smokes in the garage, brush her teeth often and use mouthwash. Her clothes would reek of the smell. We were married. We owned a house. It was much more than a dating situation. Unless you enjoy the odor, it becomes intolerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Artur:Thorny, why do you care if i am as you say extreme? There are more circassian guys who are way more extreme than me. I mean what is your point?I am Circassian only in heritage - not by disposition. I am the fifth generation in exodus, so everything is lost to me. Therefore, I do not care about Circassian men and what they do. It doesn't matter if you are Armenian, Swedish, Chinese, or other. I am not limited by these admittedly artificial boundaries. Tell me more about Circassian men - I don't care if my uncles were like that. How many times will you avoid before knock-out? Is three good enough? quote:Originally posted by TigrannesIII:men should set the example by not smoking. it's disgusting...... minus the occaisional cigar for formal purposes, but never would I do such in front of my childrenCherry- or apple-flavoured, right? Provide for concessions where convenient for self... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by khodja:She tried to hide it from me. She would sneak smokes in the garage, brush her teeth often and use mouthwash. Her clothes would reek of the smell. We were married. We owned a house. It was much more than a dating situation. Unless you enjoy the odor, it becomes intolerable.No odour for me/him yet... My nose does pick up well, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigrannesIII Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Thorny Rose:Provide for concessions where convenient for self...no, more like I drink wine at Communion but would never drink a beer while my children are present.... since you have no God you can't relate... I don't make exceptions in what is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Posted October 6, 2001 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by khodja:This was probably the critical issue that destroyed my marriage. Smoking is a disgusting habit. NO men or women should smoke. When she took up the habit I could nor live with her.And thats why if a man is the host in the family, there can be no divorce because of such a silly issue as smoking. I mean there wouldn't be even an arguement about that. Khodja, no offense bro.But i agree that men also shouldn't smoke, it affects the children especially if they are young. My father smoked started smokin when he was 35-36, at that time i was 14-15. But he gave up after two years smoking in one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 Thorny, You made an excellent point that applies to Armenians as well. Just because one is of Armenian heritage doesn't mean they have to think and act in traditional Armenian ways. My lifestyle is more one of a Buddhist or Hindu than an Armenian. So what. I still appreciate my heritage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigrannesIII Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by khodja:Thorny,You made an excellent point that applies to Armenians as well. Just because one is of Armenian heritage doesn't mean they have to think and act in traditional Armenian ways.My lifestyle is more one of a Buddhist or Hindu than an Armenian. So what. I still appreciate my heritage.If you can't honor what your ancestors were martyred for, why recognize it as part of you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Posted October 6, 2001 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 Thorny, the whole time i was just amaised how disgusting an armenian girl can be. I did not even to discuss with you when yo used nicknames and bad language. Now i dont give a damn what you say. Turkish girls are immoral and shameful in everyway. But not all though... i talk about modern (in vilages you can get moral girls)... and with you i am finished, take it easy, there is nothing to discuss anymore... ) everything is clear with you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by TigrannesIII:no, more like I drink wine at Communion but would never drink a beer while my children are present.... since you have no God you can't relate... I don't make exceptions in what is important.Oh yeah, I know... Like what one observes when watching you talking about sects of Christianity... Orthodoxy rocks, Catholicism is OK, Protestanism plain sucks... Then someone asks, what about Episcopalian? You measure up - like the person? "Yeah, that's fine, too."No marriage with odars. But when it comes to "enemies of the Turks who are our friends" (Greeks, Arabs, etc.), it's tolerable. A single-variable world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Posted October 6, 2001 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by khodja:Thorny,You made an excellent point that applies to Armenians as well. Just because one is of Armenian heritage doesn't mean they have to think and act in traditional Armenian ways.My lifestyle is more one of a Buddhist or Hindu than an Armenian. So what. I still appreciate my heritage.Hahahahahahah ))Buddhist... cool : )) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 What a shame that my grandfather and grand-uncle gave up their lives and their colossal fortune defending their religion in front of the Triumvirate. Two generations later, the only two male descendants are no longer Christians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wh00t Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Thorny Rose:In Peter Balakian's "Black Dog of Fate," you read about his aunt (or was it his grandmother? I think so) smoking, explaining that it is a custom in the "old country" for wisened women to smoke.You'r too extreme, like your Afghani friend.How in the world did you get Black Dog of Fate in Turkey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by wh00t:How in the world did you get Black Dog of Fate in Turkey?Does Amazon.com mean anything to ya? Technology is cool, isn't it? (((: Strangely enough, we have access to this in Turkey. (((:I actually read something about it in a column in Hürriyet - I'm not the only one. I'll see if I can find it. I hope it is in the CD - else, it has vanished into thin air like everything else in my previous HD! ): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 quote:Originally posted by TigrannesIII:If you can't honor what your ancestors were martyred for, why recognize it as part of you?Gosh, if your father told you your mother bore you so you could be an astronaut, would you obey?FREEDOM. There is no point in forcing people into one way (it loses its value, IMO) or belittling those who choose another - there is one life; it is everyone's right to live it the way they and only they want so long as they do not pose an impedance to others from doing the same. quote:Originally posted by Artur:Thorny, the whole time i was just amaised how disgusting an armenian girl can be. I did not even to discuss with you when yo used nicknames and bad language. Now i dont give a damn what you say. Turkish girls are immoral and shameful in everyway. But not all though... i talk about modern (in vilages you can get moral girls)... and with you i am finished, take it easy, there is nothing to discuss anymore... ) everything is clear with you... In the villages, you find girls who know nothing about the world, if that's what you like.Like any other man, I have a mouth. This implies that, with the same mouth, I can spell the same series of sounds to produce a swear-word. Furthermore, I am a human being before I am female or of a certain ethnicity (can you understand that, you who probably believe women are spare-ribs or something?). I find nothing wrong in cussing - it is used to vent anger, or it is for fun. Now don't tell me men shouldn't use it, either. You use it, too. Consult the following thread: /cgi-bin/forum/ultim...ic&f=1&t=000018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Posted October 7, 2001 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Thorny, check you PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Don't send me PM's - say what you want out here!Whatsamatta, afraid of saying what you said to me here out in public?????????????I don't give a **** (<-- there we go again!) what you think of me when I use swear-words - I don't want to be a "nice" girl, because I don't care to. It is YOUR problem if my use of swear-words eclipses your sight and view - too bad. Mend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anahid Takouhi Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Here you are Rosa. You ban people and trow your shits on armenians. Good job. You're doing the right thing. Keep going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigrannesIII Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 No, but i was born Armenian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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