Artur

quote:Originally posted by Thorny Rose: You do not kill anyone because they spread misinformation. Well, maybe YOU do, but civilized people don't. A basic fact for idiots: diplomats are civilians. Hehe... and do you know what turks claim? The genocide happened because of Dashnaks who spread the disinformation about turkish governemnt and it would be better to be with armenia. So, for this only reason, they've killed 1.5 million people, who did not even know about Dashnaks, they did not do anything against turkish government, they were living peacful life. So, it is ok for turks to kill 1.5 million because one organisation wanted to free armenians... And ASALA members are indeed brave, they know that they will end up either dead or in prison, but they do it for their own country! God rest the souls of these heros!

Wow, so many posts... Am i dreaming or what???? Whoever the moderator, i just ask to delete Thorny's previous post. And couple of previous as well... Otherwise i ma going to commit a suicide, i swear! SINCE WHEN, DO ARMENIAN GIRLS USE BAD WORDS IN PUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've never felt such a shame as today! Shame of being armenian, shame that our girls can be so immoral and disgusting... sorry, i would never use a bad word towards an armenian girl, because God forbid, for me it is disgrace. but it is disguisting! I ask either MJ or Garo, to at least delete the part with the word F..., It is shameful!

quote:Originally posted by khodja: Artur, Thst is not from what remains of the texts of Jesus disciples. I thought that you were living in the 18th century. Now I think that you are living in the 8th Century B.C. Thanks for the compliment, but who really cares what yo think?

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Levictis 24: 21-22 "'If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him: fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. I am the Lord your God.'"

Thorny, check you PM.

quote:Originally posted by khodja: Thorny, You made an excellent point that applies to Armenians as well. Just because one is of Armenian heritage doesn't mean they have to think and act in traditional Armenian ways. My lifestyle is more one of a Buddhist or Hindu than an Armenian. So what. I still appreciate my heritage. Hahahahahahah )) Buddhist... cool : ))

Thorny, the whole time i was just amaised how disgusting an armenian girl can be. I did not even to discuss with you when yo used nicknames and bad language. Now i dont give a damn what you say. Turkish girls are immoral and shameful in everyway. But not all though... i talk about modern (in vilages you can get moral girls)... and with you i am finished, take it easy, there is nothing to discuss anymore... ) everything is clear with you...

quote:Originally posted by khodja: This was probably the critical issue that destroyed my marriage. Smoking is a disgusting habit. NO men or women should smoke. When she took up the habit I could nor live with her. And thats why if a man is the host in the family, there can be no divorce because of such a silly issue as smoking. I mean there wouldn't be even an arguement about that. Khodja, no offense bro. But i agree that men also shouldn't smoke, it affects the children especially if they are young. My father smoked started smokin when he was 35-36, at that time i was 14-15. But he gave up after two years smoking in one day.

Thorny, why do you care if i am as you say extreme? There are more circassian guys who are way more extreme than me. I mean what is your point?

quote:Originally posted by Thorny Rose: By targeting Turkish civilians, eh? Yes!!! 60-70 per cent of people died in genocide were women and children! I don;t care about fedayis, they are born to die, but it is out of limit to kill a little child and attack a woman!

Thorny, the topic is basic Islam... )) By the way, do you want me to hoock you up with my friends in turkey or not? ) Don;t worry your future husband won't find out... it'll be confidential... )) And for the question: no. She will pray to God for my soul to go to heaven, and i'll be happy to die so fast.

Good topic to discuss for ARMENIANS. What kind of idiot will allow his wife smoke???! ))))))))))))))))))))) I mean first of all it is not nice for a girl to smoke. Second, God forbid, if she is a pregnant or about to have a kid, would have the worst consequences that is possible to imagine.

Azat jan, i explained you why people think that US is evel. It is not because of envy, it is because of their politics. The things the US government does is terrible. They try to intervene every problem and solve it in its own way... About Afghanistan, 20 years ago, it was the US who "created" Talibans. They were the one who supported them. They helped them financially and with weapons. The soviet government fought with them, and the US tried to turn it to Vietnam war, by helping the Taliban. And there is nothing to doubt. The Taliban came to power because of help which came from the west. The world was against "aggresion" of the USSR against Afghanistan. About, Ben Laden, i don't think he was the one who organised it. But i am sure he knew, and if he did know about it, surely he earned another couple of dozens of million dollars. About church, i dont think that something like that would happen, but some people are really upset. However, all ASALA members are heros of Armenia, and they were burried according to armenian traditions and to church. And many people, including me, supports their actions. [ October 06, 2001: Message edited by: Artur ]

quote:Originally posted by Thorny Rose: I am a half-Circassian Turk, illiterate conservArtur. Pheeeew. Thank god... Thorny ok, thats good. I mean forget what i said, now i seriously don't care. I mean i don't care about turkish or circassian girls. Keep it up. Here in my uni there are couple of turkish bi...es, well it is good to talk to the turkish guys about them... ) And it is good feeling when they feel ashamed... ) And even now, it is nothing but fun to talk to you... MJ, please don't pay attention to my previous post. You can leave everything as it is here. I am going to invite couple of turkish and circassian friends to this forum, it is going to be fun to see their reaction. : ))))) By the way, Thorny, i have many friends in Turkey... i was in Turkey this summer... if you want i can hook you up with some more "boyfriends" if you want... specially for you! Exclusive... Daghestani, Azeris, Armenians... they are all animals there Just tell me which one, ok? Take care, and be careful on the roads.

quote:Originally posted by Hmayk: Whatever you calim, You are TURK at the end. Don't come to Armenians forum, you have no room here anymore. Mi bghdzer mez turk poz! Hmayk, your opinion is groundless. The views and attitudes of Tigran is more similar to armenian, rather than yours, and many on this forum. I mean i've just read couple of your posts... But if you don't want him to come to this forum, i suggest to rename this forum to American forum, and there will be no problems, and subjects such as Women Driving, Women Smoking etc. and subjects would be like: "Women Driving - best way to get boyfriends... get many boyfriends to bed" Best of luck!

O, My God what kind of girl Thorny Rose is... what kind of language are you using? Shame on your parents, shame on your brother. Look at you, how you talk to men, and how you put yourself. Well, i am not here to judge your life neither to tell you what to do. But myself i am ashamed when girl like you calls herself an armenian! I swear to God! You have nothing in common with armenian girls, you remind some russian spoiled girls, who for this kind of language armenian guy always "punish"... and only them talk to men the way you do... You can support the american mentality you can argue with you future man, not caring about devorce and your kids... i do not care, but please don't walk around turkey and call yourself an armenian!!! I hope none but armenians visit this forum, because i will feel double shame! Before i thought girls like Gayane or Sulamita were very much "modern", but God fogive me, i haven't seen nothing like this before, and nothing like that came out of an armenian girl. Even armenian prostitutes in Yerevan are not like that... God don't let this girl have kids, that is the biggest punishment in this world! Artur

Nope. I think you know how to read - where does it say I am from below? Other than that, I am half Circassian - get it? HAHAHAHA! Wow, from your posts you are none... not an armenian, not a circassian. Do you know how strict the circassians are? Just showed you how wrong you can be, yet you can be "sure"... Your mentality is similat to russian one, and russians are famous for... so, i thought you are Bedroom included. Well, your jokes are not funny, but shows what kind of person you are ... No, I've had only one boyfriend so far Don't worry i am sure you'll have many boyfriends before you marry some guy who wouldn't care what kind of mother his children would have... Yes, they can. In every situation? No! In family? No! Why? Are there beasts out there to tear us apart? I have sisters... and several times i had to crash the jaws of some idiots who were doing some stupid staff. Do you think the world we are living is perfect? You live in Turkey, right? You should know... No, I think it is about being "rabiz" (as I remember Naira saying). Explain what you mean by rabiz, and what Naira meant. Rabis (rabochee iskusstvo) means working art. Go wash your mouth - how American, how degenerate! Nice joke, but look who is talking ... I would Thats it... it explains everything... no comments...

Thorny, yo, thats some tuff staff. A girl who has several boyfriends and have a father and brother... well, no comments. Haha... are planning to merry, or what? :: ))) Am I Saudi? No, 100% armenian Are you russian? I am sure you are. That's some russian mentality you are defending. Do you invite your boyfriends to your house? And i am sure your father is too excited to meet new boyfriends every week doesn't he? :: )))) Azat, Women and men can not be equal. Women should be treated in anyways better than man! You don't believe what i say don't you? But it is, and women should be protected by men in the family. As i see my duty in the future to take care of my family, and i'll do everything that they won't be in any danger. But it is too risky to have a wife driving a car, and i hope you understand my point. It is about care it is about respect. Azat, technologies and religion has got nothing to do with each other. About bible, i ask God to give me a faith to follow everything in bible. But every and each of us a sinner. But i am trying... And your opinion about hiding behind a religion is groundless... Women should do and can do anything and everything that you and I can do No comments... western mentality... If a woman has a husband, there it is for husband to tell her what to do... Geez... will you go against the will of your husband? Now i understand why in the US the divorce rate is so high. having wives like...

Azat, don't take it as a surprise. These people are upset what the US done to them. What about Turkey? When there are some buldings bombed in Turkey or politicians taken hostages or killed, armenians celbrate. The men who do it become heros, heros of armenian people. It is all because of anger towards Turkey, because they killed more than a million innocent people. Now, what the US done to Iraqi people, and to many other muslim countries breach nothing but anger. They bombed Yugoslavia, destroyed the infrastructure, supported Albanian separatists, who now atack Macedonia. And people who are upset from muslims, who lost relatives were celebrating what happened in the US on sept 11. I can understand these people, but i won't support what they've done. And that is unforgivable. But look at the USA... they are terrorists themself. They think they are at the top of the world, trying to intervene every problem on the earth. Punish everyone being wrong in their own eyes... And there will be more terrorist acts, after afghani war (if it starts), because there will be more upset people. Even if they destroy the Taliban resime, there are kids who will never forget it. And that's the same case with Armenian Genocide. And i can understand them. And it is not about religion, it is about anger, it is about mistakes the US done, and paid for it in such a terrible way. [ October 04, 2001: Message edited by: Artur ]

I don't understand why you all get paranoid when there are issues in which women shouldn't do some things... what's wrong with it... there some things women shouldn't do, but man can, and VICE VERSA ... Azat you call it moving forward... funny... so you are like civilised people... civilised in what way? tell me what is civilisation in your eyes... being immoral, adopting disgusting lifestyle... oh, please, don't tell me that nowadays society is more moral and pure than 200 years back, lets say in Armenia. And bout bible, no it doesn't say about cars, but it says that man should take care of his family, and he should be a host, and the last word is to be his word. Azat, what is the connection between afghani friend post and women driving cars... i think you just misunderstood. But I'll make my point again. Women shouldn't be allowed to drive ONLY for safety reason, and it is nothing about disrespect. Don't get paranoid again... And for khodja, you moved to another topic... No comments...

quote:Originally posted by Nvard: I can read that in their eyes when they see like 7 Armo guys whearing all black and leather....ah..and those black sunglasses during night time.. smile.gif :: )))) lol

quote:Originally posted by khodja: The ugly truth is that the primary disciple of Christ was a woman and was held by Jesus to be the most enlightened of all his disciples. What is your point here? And about bible, what was the point of reading it, if you don't believe in what is said in there? Your phrase: That which is not the traditional view is satanic to those who are living in the dark What a nonsence ))... This is how you find out whatis satanic: Look at american society in general, then try to compare to the laws and rules which are written in bible. And the most funniest thing will come up: everything will be opposite to the laws of bible. Just try... and if something is opposite to the laws of HOLY bible then it would be regarded as satanic, wouldn't it?...

And what kind of typical american westernised satanic and anti christian garbage are you defending here??? And what is this about talibans??? In which part of my post i discuss like talibans? Ooops, sorry, you have never read the bible have you? Well, lesson no. 1 for you: To the woman HE (GOD) said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you." Wait i have a question, Are all armenians in the US have an american mentality or what??? Moreover, i think i've discussed the topic of equality between man and woman, i dont think that we should go back there...

Man's duty is to sacrafice himslef for the sake of the family. And man's duty is to work and take care of the family, wereas woman's duty is to take care of the children. Do you get the idea? And what is this, she allowed a husband to drive? Man is the host in the family, and he decides and he takes care of the financial aspect of the family, and thats why it doesn't go the oposite way, and it will never go the opposite way in normal families... I have many kazakh and russian friends who let their wives or even daghters(!) drive. And it is not because they are busy working or whatsoever it is like a show off thing... like its cool to have a wife who is driving some top class car. hehe By the way Rose (whats your actual name?) are you married or do you have a father or brother? [ October 03, 2001: Message edited by: Artur ]