THOTH Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 hi people im a bit new here-- help me!! Please don't jump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 armensarq- im sorry if i spelled it wrong- i really agree w/ ur posts- very interesting indeed....especially the meaning to life.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 thoth?? ur confuzin me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Cognize the material world and become independent. Happiness #1Cognize the astral world and become independent. Happiness #2Cognize your will and become independent. Happiness #3Cognize the happiness and become independent. Happiness #4Cognize the spirit. (non-alcoholic) I believe you are talking about detachment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 anyone there? its boreing here- no ones posting- that is now-today.....post pple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 thoth?? ur confuzin me Sorry A4H - Well the previous poster said something about suicide - and here you were asking for help....(and I was just messing with you)...your not considering suicide then? ...hope not... But I should welcome you to the forum eh? Nice to have you with us... So just what kind of help are you in need of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 hi people im a bit new here-- help me!! If you are looking for efficient data structures for SAT solvers, this site will help you ... link But if you need help with Efficient Isotropic BRDF Measurements, then you should check out this site. Hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 I love this place. That was about ... meaning for life, eh ... The cummulative for now is: "Cognize a bit of new suicide under the sun with jumping solvers. And then post, post...post, just like that...post". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 (edited) very deep there! nice to see an armenian guy holding such beliefs!! that's really really awesome!! ~~~ i almost never speak of such things with people in general, 'cause they'll just think i'm nuts!! sad really! yet they're the ones going through life confused and without direction!!! Thanks Hye Bruin.That's so true. One of the great evils of our times is that people start thinking (already think) that talking about something not relevant to direct material or emotional happiness is irrelevant => waste of time => childish => funny => shameful. We become ignorant to these matters, while views about the meaning of life are the most intimate thoughts people can share. And while we do this we always use humor as a backup beacause we're already afraid of talking about it.This is how the real evil finds its place in our minds and hearts. Edited October 19, 2003 by ArmenSarg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 As the plants tilt towards the sunFor warmth and survival we too must find our sun. That is all. That was a perfect allegory. But plants do not have emotions and instincts. They just have body and spirit. That's why "finding the sun" for the human beings comes with sacrifice of emotional happiness by their own free will. And that hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 I believe you are talking about detachment? Detachment: 1. syn: Separation2. military unit Answers:Point 1. More elaboration neededPoint 2. I'll put some smilies next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 What do you think about people committing suicide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 I've always wandered about it, what drives certain people to do it and others not to do it, etc. But angel4hope you are right it is sad. Even if someone is going through a difficult stage there is always a chance they are going to get out of it some time in the future if they stay alive, as opposed to committing suicide and eliminating all their chances of future happiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 i have been through a lot in my life and have had many situations where im sure death would help get rid of the pain and suffering, but I dont think that i can ever bring myself to do such a thing- it just seems wrong- im sure everyone has thought about it- maybe passed their mind once- but not many people have come to the point where they actually think death is the only answer. I dont think i could answer to God if i ever did such a thing- that is only my view- im not a very religious person/ not orthodox-but i do believe in God and am a christian to a certain extent- but not to the extent where i believe christianity is the superior religion and all others are very wrong- because in many religions you see a resemblance of morals and difference between right and wrong- the only difference is how each person interprets it- like muslims tend to be more brutal and in some ways barbaric but in certain aspects like other morals- they tend to view things similarly- but not the exact same way---any how- my point being is in most religions suicide is considered a sin, besides the religious aspect- in my opinion i dont thing many people are "gutsy" anough to end their own life- .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 I think you live to love and vice versa...but right now I think life is totally meaningless! I don't understand why we're born... Do we make a difference? Nothing really changes in the world except it's getting more developed to be destroyed again. Why are people so worried about repopulating the earth if everyone knows what's gonna happen in the end? Is it fun watching your kids suffer with all kinds of diseases?! I don't care about anything anymore...nothing really interests me and I just want it to end asap. So, meaning of life: you're born to suffer (most of your life) and die and rot away in your coffin! No one's even gonna remember you or miss you after a few years... skittles, I have meditated about the meaning of life, for quite some time now. And I came to a complex conclusion, that I can try to simplify here. It is true that your life taken alone has no meaning at all, mine either has no meaning, my life like yours alone is worthless, like the life of anyone on this Earth. When someone is depressed he start thinking like the nihilists, if something had to hit Earth and destroy humanity, that won't change anything, for the Universe there won't be anything missing... Everything is suffering, you see babies born, and you think about in what kind of cruel world they have been born. I am not wanting to make you more depressed that you already are. Now, lets resume my conclusion about the meaning of life(I promess I wont introduce my multiple Universe theory, even if it is very important in order to understand the whole point I will be making ). A neuron, alone, has no meaning, neither has it any value, it is a worthless cell. In fact, a neuron alone can't do anything, a trash to be crushed by Sip. Neurons taken independently have no values, but what they produces by connecting themselves with each others, communicating with each others, is the most puzzling mistery of all time. The mind, that those neurons produces, control them and make them work all together, this mind in itself, alone may not have a meaning, or may be worthless, but it is this same mind that makes each neurons worth something. You, me, and anyone on this planet, communicate, like neurons communicate with each others, some neurons have specific tasks, and there is some sort of organization in our brain, some neurons do some tasks, others, other tasks, there is connections, etc... the same way that, a person that is a doctor, he has a task, another is a programmer, and has a task, another is an astronote and has a task, all our society is build by each one of us having a part in it. Humanity may not have a sense, may be meaningless taken alone, but it is what humanity is that makes you something, the same way that neurons produces the mind, that makes does neurons worth something. What I mean, is that, if you were to not exist, my life, and any other persons life in this world will be different, because you are a part of humanity, and the way the mind has a control over the neurons(thoughts modify the brain), human culture has a control over each one of us, and this human culture has been formed the way it is, because of our interelations(individual intereactions with each others)... it is a kind of cycle. Who knows, maybe the "brain" that each humans have formed, acting as neurons, do intercommunicate with other brains, that individuals from another species have formed. etc... A kind of fractal world, where more you go in the macro or micro schema, you will obtain the same patern. If you forget your depression a little bit, and read what I write, I garanty you that after a week, your depression will just be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 ... I promess I wont introduce my multiple Universe theory, even if it is very important in order to understand the whole point I will be making .... Oh there IS a GOD!!!! J/k Domino ... interesting post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 Very nice post Domino, i actually enjoyed that theory on the meaning of Life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 If you forget your depression a little bit, and read what I write, I garanty you that after a week, your depression will just be gone. LOL - yeah maybe..but the headache won't... Domino...just a hint...you must consider your audience when giving advice...and haven't I tought you better how to talk to girls? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 Very nice post Domino, i actually enjoyed that theory on the meaning of Life. That's just a lil bit of the theory. There is bunch more in the science and technology section for those interested. Because life has more meaning than that, because without life there is no Universe... but I won't start about this here... as I just made Sip believe the existance of a god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anahid Takouhi Posted November 16, 2003 Report Share Posted November 16, 2003 hi everyone, i'm back. nice to see you here. For me, achievments can give a meaning to our life, if we are ready for struggles. Otherwise, we have to except what comes to us and try to deal with them. You can be one of the two.- a creator or a passive dealer. The first is harder than the second and this is why 2/3 of the people are dealing with materialistic life, they except the life as it comes. Money is their goal, happiness is their dream. Let us try to be the first. Hmayk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Hmayk,What do you mean by "creator"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKGIRL28 Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 What do you think about people committing suicide? I think its very sad too. One of my friends attempted to take his own life once but changed his mind last min.. somehow, the last thought saved him and he's happy that he didnt go thru with it in the end... his last thought was never ever seeing his kids again and wacthing them grow up. I, myself could never take my own life, let alone even think about doing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 life has NO meaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 life has NO meaning I disagree here, life has a meaning, because we do of our world what we want to make of it, and as well you have some control on your life, that means that you have some control on what you do of your own life... therefore, giving a meaning is in part in your hands... If life had no meaning, it would be impossible for you to give it any meanings. But still, one of the two fundamental meanings of life, is the search of happiness, faith that you will find happinness in what you do, this is a fundamental Universal meaning of life, the rest are derived from those two fundamental meaning.(the first one is what I presented above somewhere in this thread) Think about that, pratically everything you do is supposed to make you happy, or that you expect that it will bring you happiness(Faith in happiness). This Faith in happiness is one of the things that makes us humans different from the majority if not all other animals. We can do things that we don't like, but we know/or think, we should do it, and that what we expect in the long term to achieve from that, we expect will bring us happiness... As a result of that we acquired volonty, not the volonty that serves our primitive needs, but the volonty to serve what we think is right... this is the Socratian Volonty in the Socratian triangle. This Faith as well gave rise to religions, beliefs etc... I will developpe more about those things later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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