WesternHye Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I have seen many Armenians that suggest "we all" look the same, and its obviously quite B.S. because Armenians come from different flavors and every Armenian is not descedant from every same tribe. Western Armenians look a little bit different then Eastern Armenians this is a proven fact by DNA studies it could be because WesternHyes live in over-all different climate then EasternHyes. We also have different type of Armenians. Giligian Armenians Galac Armenians Cilician Armenians ' Caucasian Armenians(Eastern Hyes) Artsaksi Armenians..etc! I would say the Armenians who look more light pigmented are the WesternHyes (Galacs,Cilicians) and vice versa and the Armenians who look slighty darker are (EasternHyes, Araratians,) etc. Armenians from Van I would say would look the most lightest Armenians compared to other Armenians who descedant from another reigon and tribe. If you guys wanna give me any questions I would gladly answer them.. I'm a huge expert on this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) I have seen many Armenians that suggest "we all" look the same, and its obviously quite B.S. because Armenians come from different flavors and every Armenian is not descedant from every same tribe. Western Armenians look a little bit different then Eastern Armenians this is a proven fact by DNA studies it could be because WesternHyes live in over-all different climate then EasternHyes. Just in case no one has told you that you are full of BS The last thing we need is another line between Kiliketsis and Yerevantsis.! Oh! Don't let me forget to say HELLO! PP-AR-EVV, or whatever. PS. You don't even know English. The "most lightest"? Why the "most" when you are using the "ëst" superlative suffix already? Not to forget the joke thst some American Armenians tell about Kharberdtsis and Vanetsis to being from "southern Armenia"(Africa?) due to their darker skin color. Edited May 19, 2009 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternHye Posted May 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) Just in case no one has told you that you are full of BS The last thing we need is another line between Kiliketsis and Yerevantsis.! Oh! Don't let me forget to say HELLO! PP-AR-EVV, or whatever. PS. You don't even know English. The "most lightest"? Why the "most" when you are using the "ëst" superlative suffix already? Not to forget the joke thst some American Armenians tell about Kharberdtsis and Vanetsis to being from "southern Armenia"(Africa?) due to their darker skin color. What the hell are you talking about? I created this thread because Armenians think every "Armenian" is the same as the other Armenian; but its nonsense every Armenian is descedant from another tribe-being. I did not make this thread to divide Armenians. Edited May 19, 2009 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Arpa, watch how you talk to a huge expert... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Arpa your post will be made invisible, if you do not clean the unnecessary swearing. BTW you have no right to tell any member new or old to get lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) Arpa, watch how you talk to a huge expert... Dear Zartonk, touche!! Huge? As in Tork Angeghia? Like Petros Dourian says in his Zghjoum-Remorse-Repentense, "Mor@s artosr@ tesa, I saw my mother's tears ", I was having flashbacks, I thought that other clown Shahan Araradian was back. I would have liked to hear his "huge expertise", but, NO thanks. He may think that I am one of those "dark skinned Araratians", I am not, My ancestors are 100% Kiliketsi. Yet, I would still like to hear his DNA data. Does DNA stand for "do not argue'"? there was atime when the pseudo-science phrenology, measurement and shape of the skull was viewed as a science, wherefrom the term "ärmenoid", whatever it may mean was coined. Is it synonymous with "mongoloid" , not PC, politically correct, now known as Down Syndrome. ! Edited May 19, 2009 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 If you guys wanna give me any questions I would gladly answer them.. I'm a huge expert on this topic. Very interesting!!!!!!!!!!! Would you like to share your credentials with us that made you a huge expert on the topic? If you don't mind of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Have you guys been in a situation when you see a stranger (or a group) and you can tell not only that they are Armenian but that they are specifically Hayastantsi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 We have different types of Armenians. Thankfully we have a huge expert on our board. He may be able to explain the difference between Cilician and Giligian Armenians, as he claims. Huge expert...we have a bastermadji here in Brazil who also writes about world politics. Thankfully he does one of the tasks well. Probably not necessary to say which one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 We have different types of Armenians. Thankfully we have a huge expert on our board. He may be able to explain the difference between Cilician and Giligian Armenians, as he claims. Huge expert...we have a bastermadji here in Brazil who also writes about world politics. Thankfully he does one of the tasks well. Probably not necessary to say which one. Are you saying we have a "bastermadji" tribe as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellektor Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 We also have different type of Armenians. Giligian Armenians Cilician Armenians If you guys wanna give me any questions I would gladly answer them.. I'm a huge expert on this topic. A HUGE expert? WTF is “Giligian Armenians” and what's the difference with “Cilician Armenians”??? P.S. Add this to your HUGE expertise: more than 50% of the Armenians in today's Republic of Armenia are the descendants of the survivors of the Armenian Genocide who migrated eastwards. One more thing: there is no “Eastern Armenia” or “Western Armenia”. Remember that Kars (Ani), Ardahan, Surmalu (Mt. Ararat), Nakhijevan, Utik, Pytakaran are parts of the so-called “Eastern Armenia” that are still under Turk occupation. I prefer the expression Turk occupied Armenia for all the parts of our homeland under Turkic yoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellektor Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Have you guys been in a situation when you see a stranger (or a group) and you can tell not only that they are Armenian but that they are specifically Hayastantsi? This is more because of the customs, the way different people in different regions dress, do their hair, talk, eat, etc., not because they are from different races. The best example: the very second generation of all those who emigrated from Iran in 1946 to ARmSSR and were called Akhpars look, talk and walk exactly as what you label Hyastantsi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Are you saying we have a "bastermadji" tribe as well. Of course but I don't know if he is a Cilician, Giligian or from Gilligan's Island Armenian. Waiting for the huge expert to show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 BTW you have no right to tell any member new or old to get lost. But he is lost already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 But he is lost already I feel your pain! I think if there is no objection from the huge expert, I will move this topic to the Humor section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) A HUGE expert? WTF is "Giligian Armenians" and what's the difference with "Cilician Armenians"? He obviously meant to write "Galician Armenians", those darky Armenians of Northwestern Spain... Edited May 20, 2009 by Zartonk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 add one more to the list Internet Armenia / AKA InternetIan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternHye Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) We have different types of Armenians. Thankfully we have a huge expert on our board. He may be able to explain the difference between Cilician and Giligian Armenians Giligian Armenians have there own language I meant some of them in the Balkans and they are great people, also about Cilician Armenians a lot of them have blonde hair but they spread through out the world after the Turko-massacres. Galacian Armenians live in what is known as Galatia in Central Anatolia some of them survived and became what was known as "Galac Armenos". Galatians were a great celtic tribe who moved to the Black Sea coast around the Central/Western Anatolia pleatu some of them became Turkified or became Christian and then became Greeks or Armenians it might explain why the "red head" genes exist amongst some Armenians. Edited May 21, 2009 by WesternHye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternHye Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Looks like I came to the wrong forum to discuss matters on our population.. some of you guys are probably not even Armenians sorry if I even bothered. Good bye... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Please don't go away. We are in dire need of experts such as yourself. Pray tell us a bit more about you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 some of you guys are probably not even Armenians sorry if I even bothered. Good bye... Are you telling us that you are not Armenian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Can we be more careful, as you can see furks and other varmints read this forum. --- Thank you ads and mods for moving this to its proper category. Some of my comments below are TIC at best and some parts serious. Looks like I came to the wrong forum to discuss matters on our population.. some of you guys are probably not even Armenians sorry if I even bothered. Good bye… No, no please stay. We need some diversionary entertainment, specially now that Hagarag has not appeared in some time and Lion has not been here to tell us that the Egyptians (Hyksos) and by association the people of that fictitious exodus schmeksosus, the Spanish , the Basque and the French are all of Armenian descent. Did I leave anyone our? I love fairy tales! Read on. Giligian Armenians have there own language I meant some of them in the Balkans and they are great people, also about Cilician Armenians a lot of them have blonde hair but they spread through out the world after the Turko-massacres. Galacian Armenians live in what is known as Galatia in Central Anatolia some of them survived and became what was known as "Galac Armenos". Galatians were a great celtic tribe who moved to the Black Sea coast around the Central/Western Anatolia pleatu some of them became Turkified or became Christian and then became Greeks or Armenians it might explain why the "red head" genes exist amongst some Armenians Blond hair? That makes me an outcast Kliketsi, a "black sheep". Fortunately my two brothers have blond hair and blue eyes, there may still be hope for me. Blond hair? Aaah! This confirms the legend of Kiliketsis being “hybrids” (there is another rude word) of the Crusaders. Red hair? This explains all, or does it? Vardan Mamikonean’s nickname is Karmir Vardan/ Red Vardan. Is it because he had red hair? But, wait, wait a minute. Where is Hagarag to tell us that he was Chinese. Like Mao and Ming Ling had red hair? == This part is serious, and may support your theory that the “Black Sea …” have red hair. Our friend Johannes showed us that Jenk/Jenats is the region of Taik what is now known as the north eastern corner of Asia Minor/ Armenian Highlands. === Why not? That is the region where Armenians and the “golden hordes”, the likes of Putin and Ivan the Terrible met. And to explain why Vanetsis and Mshetsis are of dark complexion, once again, Hello Hagarag. Of course, that is where Tigran the Great settled those dark skinned semites from Palestine, aka Bagratunis. In general Western Hyes rule since they spread all the way from Afghanistan to Zululand while a mere 2 million Eastern Hyes may be on the verge of extinction. When that happens we will al have blond hair, blue eyes and red heads. In conclusion. Please stay and entertain us. In addition, Ok you guys, let’s tone down a bit. I apologize since I started this debate. Let us give WH some space to air his theory and (huge expertise) science. Observe below the size of Earth and its land size Earth land size http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth Circumference 40,075.02 km (equatorial) 40,007.86 km (meridional) 40,041.47 km (mean) Surface area 510,072,000 km²[5][6][note 2] 148,940,000 km² land (29.2 %) 361,132,000 km² water (70.8 %) Volume 1.0832073 × 1012 km3 Modern Armenia is some 11,000 sq mi, close to 30,000 sq km Armenia: History, Geography, Government, and Culture — Infoplease.com Land area: 11506 sq mi (29800 sq km); total area: 11506 sq mi (29800 sq km) ... Contemporary Armenia is a fraction of the size of ancient Armenia. … Add to that Artsakh, Nakhjavan and Javakh, and multiply the sq mi by 3, a total of 20,000 sq mi, will be 60,000 sq km. Look up and see. I am not a math geek, how about it Sip? What percent is today’s Armenia of the total Earth Land? Of course, as we see above Modern Armenia is 0.000000001% of the Earth’s land surface.. Yet, look how big is “Western Armenia”. All the way from Ani to Adana to Alaska** and Australia, from Zangezur to Zululand. Some of us may live in the US of A who insist that a Kharberdtsi , Kesaratsi *** (they should amend their surnames to äpukhtian ) is superior to a (I don’t want to use that furkish term) Artsakhtsi . ** Speaking of Alaska, I am waiting to see how the Aleut and the Eskimo are of Armenian origin. I am convinced that Alaska is from the Armenian word “äylazgi/alien”. ***Yes Boghos, as to “basterma”. See that Kesaratsis are the hands down champions .At one time the Lebanese would call us “beni basturma”. I wonder why they don’t call us “beni shish kebab/khorvats “! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 A good job sticker for 'aylazg'! I bet eskimo too comes from 'ski mot (chen)'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellektor Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Giligian Armenians have there own language ...Cilician Armenians a lot of them have blonde ...Galacian Armenians live in what is known as Galatia in Central Anatolia ...the Black Sea coast around the Central/Western Anatolia pleatu He's only a step away from the unspeakable term and the unleashing of my "Eastern Anatolian" bet. Hey WesternHye, Asia Minor/Anatolia ends at the 38th eastern meridian where the Armenian Highland starts. He obviously meant to write "Galician Armenians", those darky Armenians of Northwestern Spain... He obviously is confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hosank Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) Blond hair? That makes me an outcast Kliketsi, a "black sheep". Fortunately my two brothers have blond hair and blue eyes, there may still be hope for me. Blond hair? Aaah! This confirms the legend of Kiliketsis being “hybrids” (there is another rude word) of the Crusaders. you should marry an irish woman to ensure the survival of the pure aryan armenian gene that's what my mum did, and it works as for my commentary on this thread: i don't think that regional differences between armenians are even relevant anymore. i mean, first off, even in western armenia of the day, many people travelled from town to town. second, often, entire populations moved with their local lord after lost battles, or being given new relms, a famous example is the exodus of the entire hamshin armenian people from vaspurakan to the pontic coast, and yet, the majority of hamshen have very light features. - or other lords who moved from west to east, and back depending on the favour of the byzantine or persian emperors, and of course the famous armenian noble families with connections to georgia- and finally, who the hell, in the western-armenian diaspora still marries based on the home town of their partner's great grandparents. a large amount of armenians from vayots dzor, and naxichevan were deported to persia by shah abbas in the 1600s, forming the base of the parskahye community, and likewise, many were repatriated by the russians. in poland, there are 90 000 armenians, 75 000 of them have been living there for 1000+ years, its a safe bet that they are also beautiful blond blue eyed people and as hellektor briefly touched. after the genocide, many armenians from the remaning provinces in eastern 'turkey' migrated to the ASSR, then of course, in the 1940s, tens of thousands of western armenians (such as my aunt and uncle) were repatriated to soviet armenia, thus today, nearly 1/3rd of all armenians from the ASSR are direct, or partially (meaning with at least one parent) descendants of western armenians. it is also said that in armenia herself, the region of 'lori' is noted for its high amount of fair haired armenians. but i don't see this as simply regional. for instance, within my family itself, out of 7 brothers and sisters my mum has, she, and 2 of her sisters have blond hair and very light skin, where as, one of her sisters has a more Mediterranean tan, and her mother is light skinned..and they are 100% kilikiaci. oh, and who the hell cares weather 10 000 years ago, your ancestors may have been from the nayiri or armen, or hayasa tribe? loolll so, in the end, it really doesn't matter.....but i suggest you all mary irish people...scottish will do well...so then we will all be happy!!! hehe Edited May 22, 2009 by hosank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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