Question about Artsakh independence

[MyTerrain]

As you know now Artsakh doesn't have to officially publish the number or troops/tanks/APCs etc because it's not officially recognized so theoretically we could keep 1000 tanks there. If Artsakh got its independence we'd have to officially give detailed description of its armed forces and there are limits as to how many soldiers/tanks you can have. What do you think is better for Artsakh to be independent and have its military data published or stay unrecognized but strong? Edited August 18, 2008 by MyTerrain

[Hellektor]

As you know now Artsakh doesn't have to officially publish the number or troops/tanks/APCs etc because it's not officially recognized so theoretically we could keep 1000 tanks there. If Artsakh got its independence we'd have to officially give detailed description of its armed forces and there are limits as to how many soldiers/tanks you can have. What do you think is better for Artsakh to be independent and have its military data published or stay unrecognized but strong?

First off, the Armenian statesmen should come clean with the bluff of ceding any territories to the sore genocidal “Azeri” losers. The end goal is that Artsakh be reunified with Armenia, whole of Artsakh that is, because about half of the province is still under “Azeri” occupation. The borders of the NKAO (the fetus) were drawn by the genocidal savages according to their pan-Turkist agenda, which severed the province from motherland Armenia and left highly Armenian populated areas out of NKAO, therefore, these artificial borders are illegal.

 

There's not a single legal document in the world that deals with the delineation of the borders of fake “Azerbaijan”, thus, the whole crap about the territorial integrity of that bogus state is nothing but fiction. More, since fake “Azerbaijan's” bid to join was rejected by the League of Nations in 1920 right before its Sovietization, it has never existed as a subject of international law (a sovereign state) before 1991 when Artsakh (with the present borders) had already emerged as an independent state making their claim over Artsakh totally baseless.

 

In the case of signing a peace treaty with fake “Azerbaijan”, Armenia should take care not to allow any recognition of borders of that counterfeited nonentity, otherwise it will become a recognized state with recognized borders for the first time in its 90 year, miserable existence and we will lose any future chance of getting Nakhijevan, the rest of Artsakh up to the River Kur, Utik and Pytakaran provinces (right to the Caspian, which will cut the fake state from Iran and real Azarbaijan (Atrpatakan) and render its appellation unjustified) back.

 

We'll see whether our statesmen will perpetuate our historically lousy diplomacy and make the same mistakes over and over again or they'll wise up for a change and become real diplomats that work for the interests of our nation.

 

[MyTerrain]

First off, the Armenian statesmen should come clean with the bluff of ceding any territories to the sore genocidal “Azeri” losers. The end goal is that Artsakh be reunified with Armenia, whole of Artsakh that is, because about half of the province is still under “Azeri” occupation. The borders of the NKAO (the fetus) were drawn by the genocidal savages according to their pan-Turkist agenda, which severed the province from motherland Armenia and left highly Armenian populated areas out of NKAO, therefore, these artificial borders are illegal.

 

There's not a single legal document in the world that deals with the delineation of the borders of fake “Azerbaijan”, thus, the whole crap about the territorial integrity of that bogus state is nothing but fiction. More, since fake “Azerbaijan's” bid to join was rejected by the League of Nations in 1920 right before its Sovietization, it has never existed as a subject of international law (a sovereign state) before 1991 when Artsakh (with the present borders) had already emerged as an independent state making their claim over Artsakh totally baseless.

 

In the case of signing a peace treaty with fake “Azerbaijan”, Armenia should take care not to allow any recognition of borders of that counterfeited nonentity, otherwise it will become a recognized state with recognized borders for the first time in its 90 year, miserable existence and we will lose any future chance of getting Nakhijevan, the rest of Artsakh up to the River Kur, Utik and Pytakaran provinces (right to the Caspian, which will cut the fake state from Iran and real Azarbaijan (Atrpatakan) and render its appellation unjustified) back.

 

We'll see whether our statesmen will perpetuate our historically lousy diplomacy and make the same mistakes over and over again or they'll wise up for a change and become real diplomats that work for the interests of our nation.

 

You just nailed it man. Couldn't agree more!!!!!!!!!

[hyethga]

As you know now Artsakh doesn't have to officially publish the number or troops/tanks/APCs etc because it's not officially recognized so theoretically we could keep 1000 tanks there. If Artsakh got its independence we'd have to officially give detailed description of its armed forces and there are limits as to how many soldiers/tanks you can have. What do you think is better for Artsakh to be independent and have its military data published or stay unrecognized but strong?

 

The NKR would have to be a signatory to the CFT which establish the ceilings of how many tanks, airplanes, helicopters, etc. a country can have. If the NKR is granted independence, then it can simply choose not to sign any armed forces treaty (the caveat, of course, being if becoming a member of an intl. organization is contingent on being a signatory).

 

If the NKR decides to reunite with Armenia, then it just surrenders its political structure and becomes another region, perhaps allowing Armenia to renegotiate the terms outlined in the CFT.