gdavidyan Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I was only a little kid when we moved from Armenia. My cousin at the time was three in a half and remembers me. Last year I saw her for the first time in 16 years. I came back to the U.S. and could not believe that I was in love with my cousin. I made myself believe that I am not and that it is wrong, at the same time I was giving excuses to why it is not wrong. Anyways, my love for her slowly was going away, but something pulled me back to her and I went and visited my aunt's family again for the whole summer. The third night I was there, my cousin and I started kissing, SHE made the first move. The next day we talked about it and found out that both of us were in love. We both love each other, and it is such an unaccepted practice in that country. Anyways, I was there for 2 in a half months, my cousin and I secretly got married and I will do anything for her. I can't live without her. We are now married and I want to bring her to the U.S., however the I-130 immigration petition to bring her asks for both of our mother's maiden names! I don't know what to do!!! I am going crazy, I cannot live without her, I will not marry or date or do anything with any other girl but her, I love her. I think us being cousins creates a stronger marriage and better love, I don't know, please, I want to bring her here with me does anyone know anything about such an issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakachik77 Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 sorry but i don't think you are armenian and this post is sincere, good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 sorry but i don't think you are armenian and this post is sincere, good luck! I do believe he's Armenian but I do not believe his post is sincere. I think the marriage is a gimmik to bring his cousin to the US and he need opinions from us to not get caught. Something which is of course illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 All I want to know is who performed the marriage in Armenia? For the first cousins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdavidyan Posted August 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I swear to god it is sincere, I love her. It is not a gimmick to bring her to the U.S. I know lots of Armenians always do gimmicks to bring people to the U.S. I love her a lot, and it is just killing me that this situation is like this. I've done a lot of research about cases like this, and it is actually quite common for cousins to be separated by when back together they fall in love. It is not a gimmick and I can turn to no one for help because no one would understand how I can fall in love with my cousin. Before this happened I would've had the same suspiciouns as you guys and when find out it is legitamet, I would think it's sick. But after this has happened to me I am thinking a lot differently. I don't know where else to turn to for help, if I can't get her here, I will just have to go to another country with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Why don't you write your case in Armenian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdavidyan Posted August 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Hayeren grem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Hayeren grem? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdavidyan Posted August 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Es arachi ankam@ gnaci hayastan ancyal tari ev im morkuyri akhchka het siaharva: Gjhutyun e hima galis im vren vor chem karox iren het linem. Menk iskakanic irar het siaharvacenk yev uzumenk irar het kin yev amusin aprenk. Yes yete chkaroxanam iren berem ays tegh, yes iren het kpakhnem kgnam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdavidyan Posted August 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Enger jan, yes kexc ban chem anum, ajs akhchika het yes siaharvelem yev uzum em iren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 meknumek@t xpeq indz prtsnem pleaze !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 meknumek@t xpeq indz prtsnem pleaze !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMA Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I do believe he's Armenian but I do not believe his post is sincere. I think the marriage is a gimmik to bring his cousin to the US and he need opinions from us to not get caught. Something which is of course illegal. Why is it illegal? How about Muslims then? is it illegal for them too? I didn't know such thing was illegal in the US. I don't think it's illegal in Europe as the majority of Muslims marry their cousins. In many cases names and surnames coincide, what happens then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Why is it illegal? How about Muslims then? is it illegal for them too? I didn't know such thing was illegal in the US. I don't think it's illegal in Europe as the majority of Muslims marry their cousins. In many cases names and surnames coincide, what happens then? I think you misunderstood me. I thought it was a gimmik to get her in the US, marriage for the sole reason to bring people in, is illegal. Well, I think it is, isen't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdavidyan Posted August 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 U.S. Law says that what is accepted in the country of marriage is generally accepted here. That's my problem, I don't think it's allowed in Armenia, I'm not 100% sure. If it is illegal in Armenia, I could probably get in major trouble. We know what Armenia is like, and we know that everything works with money there, I don't want to bring her here illegally, I want to legally bring her here as my wife so we can life normal lives as husband and wife. I might have to move far away somewhere else in the states from other family, but that is no issue for me. I love her and no relative is going to keep me from loving her. I know muslims do it, and as soon as any Armenian finds out who I am they will call me Turk, but I don't care. I really need help on knowing how to legally bring her here, because it is a legitamet, real marriage, I love her to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Assuming it is genuine, well just fill the papers, no matter if the family names are the same, it should work. I still find it weird that two cousins after three days will kiss eachothers no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdavidyan Posted August 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 No, no, this was after 3 days the second time I visited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 man you need help / something like medical attention - their might be a pill for it ask your doctor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdavidyan Posted August 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I know it sounds crazy, I don't know what I would've thought if someone else told me this. I would just tell them to shut up and get over it, but it is so difficult, the bond that we have together. Even before this happened, everywhere we would go people would say, "Es ov e, ko nshanac@." I have a notarized translated copy of the marriage certificate and it is, "Married on which is registered in accordance with the Law in the Register Book on XX/XX/XXXX" After the marrige registration they are given the last names: Husband: XXXXXXXXX Wife: XXXXXXXX Anyways, you get the picture. In the state I live in, it does not allow first cousin marriages, however, there are states which do, California is one of them, I'm thinking of moving to California to become a resident there and then file the petition rather than even more risking it here. I know if I am caught they will probably assume it's fraud, but it's not fraud! I love her and I want to be with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMA Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I think you misunderstood me. I thought it was a gimmik to get her in the US, marriage for the sole reason to bring people in, is illegal. Well, I think it is, isen't it? Oh ok I did misunderstand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALMA Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I know it sounds crazy, I don't know what I would've thought if someone else told me this. I would just tell them to shut up and get over it, but it is so difficult, the bond that we have together. Even before this happened, everywhere we would go people would say, "Es ov e, ko nshanac@." I have a notarized translated copy of the marriage certificate and it is, "Married on which is registered in accordance with the Law in the Register Book on XX/XX/XXXX" After the marrige registration they are given the last names: Husband: XXXXXXXXX Wife: XXXXXXXX Anyways, you get the picture. In the state I live in, it does not allow first cousin marriages, however, there are states which do, California is one of them, I'm thinking of moving to California to become a resident there and then file the petition rather than even more risking it here. I know if I am caught they will probably assume it's fraud, but it's not fraud! I love her and I want to be with her. Sorry to ask but how old are you and ho old is your cousin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 gdavidyan do gites te inch problemneri araj es kangnats yev te inch problemner klinen yerb duq yerexa unenaq ?? 99% dzer yerexaner@ normal chen linelu / manavand yerb morakan koghmits zarmikner eq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ALMA Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 21 / 23 You are very young u mi or zxchaluyes ko ararki hamar, Mosjan is right. You seem to ignore the fact that your kids will surely be born abnormal. I don't blame you as much as I blame your SISTER. You have grown up in the US and your mentality is different but what about her? A 21 year old Hayastantsi girl surely can think enough as to know the result of your marriage. All I can say is that I'm sorry for you two. The best way is forgetting her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdavidyan Posted August 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I can't forget her, that is not possible. I've thought over everything, whether I would regret it or not, and I wouldn't, I would regret it more if I am not with her. I've done a lot of research on offspring with cousins. There is only a 1.7-3% increased risk with cousins (not talking about "hor expayr" children). The increased risk of abnormal children I have with her is equivlant to having a child with a woman who is 41 years old, statistically. Before having children we will get tested, and if the doctors saying having children shouldn't be an option, that's alright with me. But I won't have children for another couple years and I've told her that. The only reason why I'm doing it so fast and early is so that her mother doesn't make her marry someone so her daughter doesn't become "Tun@ mnacac." I don't know, all I know is I want her and I need some advice on how to bring her here, if I find that I am not able to do that, I will just have to run away somewhere else with her. If anyone can help in anyway, I will greatly appreciate it, if not, that's okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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