Turkey Calls On Azerbaijan To Prepare For War

[Aratta-Kingdom]

PanARMENIAN.Net

 

Turkey calls on Azerbaijan to prepare for war

03.02.2007 14:49 GMT+04:00

 

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ `I should say with regret that the OSCE Minsk Group

is one of the most inactive organizations engaged in international

mediation,' said Nevzat Yalcintas, the head of the Turkish delegation

to the OSCE. In his words, it's hard to resolve the problem existing

between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Turkey's representative is convinced

that Azerbaijan should be ready for war. `Speaking in modern language,

if do not want cessation of territories and want peace, prepare for

war.

 

Azerbaijan should be ready to protect its territories. Certainly, the

current situation may incline to a peaceful settlement, that is to the

main goal of the OSCE MG. However, is the problem is not settled

peacefully Azerbaijan should get ready for any development,' the

Turkish deputy said.

 

At that he expressed surprise over the fact that Azerbaijan and Turkey

have not concluded a security agreement yet. In his words, the

agreement should be signed as soon as the international situation is

favorable for it, reports APA.

 

[Aratta-Kingdom]

Interfax News Agency

Russia & CIS General Newswire

February 3, 2007 Saturday 2:20 PM MSK

 

Aliyev: Azerbaijan ready for "second phase" of war with Armenia

 

 

 

Azeri President Ilham Aliyev has said he disagrees with the

generally-accepted notion that Azerbaijan lost the war for

Nagorno-Karabakh and warned Armenia that a new war for the disputed

territory is possible.

 

"It is sometimes believed that Azerbaijan lost in that conflict.

 

But I do not think so. True, our lands are under occupation and

Azerbaijan is suffering from this, but we will get them back," Aliyev

said in a speech at a meeting with activists of youth organizations

on Youth Day, whose transcript was published in the official press on

Saturday.

 

"Look at Azerbaijan's development and Armenia's development over the

ceasefire period alone. Half of the Armenian population has left the

country over the period this regime has been in effect. This fact is

known to everybody. True, Armenia distorts statistics so that the

population outflow not be that evident. But we know this, and all the

neighboring states also know this," Aliyev said.

 

Armenia is economically isolated from all international projects, and

"it is we who have isolated it," Aliyev said.

 

"I am declaring this openly. In certain cases some organizations and

countries want to criticize us for Armenia's isolation. But I tell

them: yes, we are doing this and will do this. We will take every

opportunity to attain the desired result," Aliyev said.

 

Over the ceasefire period, Azerbaijan has become stronger, met all

its targets, and gotten rid of its former dependence on other

countries, Aliyev said.

 

"This [dependence] is zero now. The everyday events confirm this.

 

But Armenia, on the contrary, is becoming more and more dependent on

both international organizations and other countries in the region.

As regards economic and social development, our positions are simply

incomparable. Therefore, it is a big question in whose favor the

first phase of the war ended. Considering that this was the first

phase of the war, there will be its second phase if we cannot resolve

the problem in a peaceful way. The second phase could in fact become

the end of Armenia," Aliyev said.

 

"They should know and understand that there is a limit to our

patience," Aliyev said.

 

He said he is sure that the conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh will be

resolved eventually.

 

"Naturally, we will resolve it, because Armenia will be unable to

equal us. No matter how many foreign sponsors it has and how large

its diaspora is, it will be unable to equal us. Because the gap

existing between us will only grow," he said.

 

 

 

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Didn't we hear these same words from the turks before? The ex-president of Azerbaijan, Elchibey, promised to destroy Armenia. The Turkish pig, Ozal, said Armenians will be given the lesson of 1915. With all the support the azeris got from the soviet army, turkey, israel, thousands of afghan, chechen, and arab terrorists, they still lost the war.

 

" 'The second phase could in fact become the end of Armenia,' Aliyev said. " Well

Edited February 4, 2007 by ArmoArmeN

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This concerns me. I have no doubt on our ground forces. They will repeal any attack. But I am concerned about the attack from above.

 

I wonder if those S-300's are under russian or armenian control?

[Armenak]

I don't think these people want peace. They're going to drive the Armenian population out and turn Artsakh into another Nakhichevan. Then all Azerbaijan and Turkey have to do is get rid of Armenia. The Azeris claim Zangezur, Tavush and Yerevan after all. I guess there is no room for an Armenian state in the Caucasus.

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"The second phase could in fact become

the end of Armenia," Aliyev said.

 

Populist rubbish, Id hope he didnt believe what he is saying for Azeris sake.

[phantom22]

Nothing new. Pan-Turanism never burned out. It is still alive and well in the "deep state" of Turkey. They have ALWAYS wanted Armenia and Armenians to DISAPPEAR!

 

 

I don't think these people want peace. They're going to drive the Armenian population out and turn Artsakh into another Nakhichevan. Then all Azerbaijan and Turkey have to do is get rid of Armenia. The Azeris claim Zangezur, Tavush and Yerevan after all. I guess there is no room for an Armenian state in the Caucasus.

 

[Aratta-Kingdom]

 

The Azeri-turks would have attacked Armenia/Artsak long time ago if they knew they could win the war. The population of Azerbaijan is mad because the life conditions there are getting wors and worse. Aliyev-junior is stealing all the oil money. To keep the people's spirit alive, and to prevent people from confronting the government, the president of azerbaijan feeds the people's minds with all kind of nonsense. The idea of pan-turkism is still alive, but Aliyev-junior will never jeoportize his sit and the money he gets from the oil by starting another war. He simply knows, he can't win the war.

[irlandahay]

 

Azeri President Ilham Aliyev has said he disagrees with the

generally-accepted notion that Azerbaijan lost the war for

Nagorno-Karabakh

"It is sometimes believed that Azerbaijan lost in that conflict.

 

But I do not think so. True, our lands are under occupation and

Azerbaijan is suffering from this, but we will get them back," Aliyev

said in a speech at a meeting with activists of youth organizations

on Youth Day, whose transcript was published in the official press on

Saturday.

 

 

ok...this hit me just now.

 

"it is sometimes believed..."

no, it isnt, it is ALWAYS KNOWN. like seriously. you can tell that they are turks.

i personnally know some turks who believe they won WW1. and now these guys think they won artsakh war.

pffff

 

yea, they will get their land back. and when i grow up i will discover atlantis.

 

what i like about Aliev...did i say like? i emant...FIND OUTRAGEAOUSLY funny, is that he trys to show some balls in front of his people. well...BRING IT!

 

im sorry, im tired of this BS, they have been threatening since the sease fire!

they dont shut up jeeeeez

 

what the hell, you wanna attack...attack! but stop b*tching about the fact that you lost and muttering empty threats when our back is turned.

 

then they have heroes like Ramil Safarov. ugh

 

Btw Armo armen, very good point about azerbaboonjan. i had an article on another forum about how azercrapjan is turning into a third world country. il post it once i decide to look for it lol

 

cheers

[DominO123]

Populist rubbish, Id hope he didnt believe what he is saying for Azeris sake.

 

Doesn't matter, what matter is that this is comming from the president. It isen't in anyway different than Iran presidents constent threats to Israel, it is even worst, since Azerbaijan frontier Armenia.

[Aratta-Kingdom]

THE STRENGTH OF OUR BORDERS IS THE REASON WHY THE ENEMY DOES NOT ATTACK US

By S. Hakobian

 

Yerkir.am

February 02, 2007

 

With the victory in the liberation war in Artsakh and preservation of

the territorial integrity and border of Armenia our army has proven

that it is strong and ready to accomplish any military tasks.

 

On the occasion of the 15th anniversary of the Armenian army ARF's

Supreme Body organized a visit to the motor-infantry division N58831

named after Vazgen Sargsian in Ararat.

 

Congratulating the soldiers on the army's 15th anniversary member

of ARF's Bureau and Deputy Chairman of the National Assembly Vahan

Hovhannissian noted that 15 years ago, on January 28, 1992, it became

possible to establish the guarantee of our country's security and

territorial integrity - the Armenian army.

 

Hovhannissian extended his gratitude to all parents who realize the

necessity to serve in the army and send their sons to the Armenian

national army.

 

Hovhannissian believes the reason why the enemy does not attack Armenia

is that our borders are strong. He wished the Armenian army peace and

victories noting that the army's value in a time of peace is the same

as in a time of war. "We don't need any enemy attacks. We must be so

strong that no one would even think of attacking us, and you are the

guarantee of this."

 

The visit to the military unit protecting Armenia's south-west border

was special because it is very closely located to Yerevan and is very

dangerous because it is close to the border with Nakhijevan.

 

Azeris believe Nakhijevan is very close to Yerevan and if they have

any aggressive plans they are going to use Nakhijevan. This is why

protection of this border is very important for the Armenian side.

 

Head of ARF's parliamentary faction Hrayr Karapetian noted that

celebration of the army's anniversary is probably the most glorious

holiday.

 

"Our army becomes stronger morally and physically. The material

conditions are gradually improved and this is the best guarantee that

the Armenian nation will live in its free and independent country,

and nurture hopes of living in its historical homeland in the future."

 

Appreciation certificates were awarded to several officers for high

military discipline. The guests presented to the military unit the

film series telling about the heroes of Karabagh war, and several

films telling about the First Armenian Republic, the monuments in

Western Armenia, and a TV and video player.

 

They also presented the soldiers a book titled "Armenian Soldier" where

the image of the Armenian soldier is crystallized in the images of Dro

and Sebastatsi Murad. 30 members of ARF's Nikol Aghbalian Student Union

visited the military unit to get acquainted with the conditions in the

army to be sure that they will be serving in a strong and secure army.

 

[hosank]

a war you say? then bring it on.

every person within is willing to give their life for the fatherland.

 

what i love is how he speaks of the economic gab between armenia and azeribajain. obviously, both economies are going up.

 

armenia's economy is build on a stable ground, such as human resourses, usage of their education and so on. (microtech, banking)

 

azerbaijan's economy i solely based on sale of oil. so obviously the gdps look similar on paper, but the reality is that the only people who make profit from oil sail is the government, or more specifically, Alyev's pocket

 

less then 15% of the armenian population lives bellow the poverty line, obviously, almost half the azeri population lives bellow it. why? because azerbaijan spends all it's money on buying obsolete weapons.

 

one thing i find funny, is that he says that azerbaijan is no longer economically dependent on other nations.

that is the biggest lie. the azeri economy is still somewhat based on the old soviet system. the only profitable economy, oil, is only successful, by depending on the world market to make money.

 

another unintelligent thing...their pipeline goes right through the armenian sector of georgia...yes, just try to start a war.

 

[Dave]

All that Azerbaijan and Turkey are saying about Nagorno-Karabagh are baseless rhetoric.

[ARMENISM]

IF THERE IS ANOTHER WAR BAKU WILL BE ARMENIAN CITY. I KNOW IT THIS TIME WE WONT HAVE PRESSURE FROM RUSSIA WHICH WE HAD IN 1991 AND FOR UNITED STATED RUSSIA WILL DEAL WITH IT AND FOR FIGHTING FEDAYINS WILL DO THE JOB AND WELL BE STEP CLOSER TO OUR DREAM AND THAT IS SEA TO SEA ARMENIA.!!!!

[MadArmo]

 

 

 

Ok, If it's the only option, Let's move on and lock & load highlanders !

 

Element of suprise should be considered and remove all air superemacy. Attack Turkey & their Azeri puppets show the World Armenia won't back down from threats of hostility or verbal harrasments, The Western Powers regret not finishing the job in WWI and it's time we gave them a reason to make good on their blunder. If Turkey lacks reality of justice It's our divine duty to render punishment & we must leave our foot imprints on their ARSE ! It can be done... We have the power to cause mass hysteria amongs them, They forget the few Armenians who fought them only shamed them into retreat, We all know of the common cowards amongs us, Them Turks ! The brave Turk only attacks the weak, elderly, young & rapes women and their young girls. Our vengence is just, Denials of amends brings us to this critical juction. They pursue War instead of peace, They can extend an olive branch but choose barbarism instead I guess they never change, go figure ... Even a jackass can be more civilized then a common Turko !

 

 

 

It's time... Stop dreaming ...

 

 

 

 

 

 

[irlandahay]

Ok, If it's the only option, Let's move on and lock & load highlanders !

 

Element of suprise should be considered and remove all air superemacy. Attack Turkey & their Azeri puppets show the World Armenia won't back down from threats of hostility or verbal harrasments, The Western Powers regret not finishing the job in WWI and it's time we gave them a reason to make good on their blunder. If Turkey lacks reality of justice It's our divine duty to render punishment & we must leave our foot imprints on their ARSE ! It can be done... We have the power to cause mass hysteria amongs them, They forget the few Armenians who fought them only shamed them into retreat, We all know of the common cowards amongs us, Them Turks ! The brave Turk only attacks the weak, elderly, young & rapes women and their young girls. Our vengence is just, Denials of amends brings us to this critical juction. They pursue War instead of peace, They can extend an olive branch but choose barbarism instead I guess they never change, go figure ... Even a jackass can be more civilized then a common Turko !

It's time... Stop dreaming ...

 

altho i do agree with some of your points.

when your trying to fight a war massivley out numbered, its better to stay on the defnsive and NOT offensive. when the turkish army has a potential (in war time) to be as large as the armenian population itself, there sortof is a problem. lets see 3000 000 armenains, badly armed and badly defended, take turkey by surprise. i have faith in armenians but im no fool.

Edited February 12, 2007 by irlandahay

[zurderer]

ROA attack to Turkey? Yep, Turks will supprised your air force much. (At least, they will be supprised It is called as air force.)

 

Anyway, Time is working against you. Money from oil is changing blance between ROA and azerbaijan. Time is a scary enemy.

 

 

[MosJan]

and everything has it's time

just like every dog has it's day

[Iranpour]

IF THERE IS ANOTHER WAR BAKU WILL BE ARMENIAN CITY. I KNOW IT THIS TIME WE WONT HAVE PRESSURE FROM RUSSIA WHICH WE HAD IN 1991 AND FOR UNITED STATED RUSSIA WILL DEAL WITH IT AND FOR FIGHTING FEDAYINS WILL DO THE JOB AND WELL BE STEP CLOSER TO OUR DREAM AND THAT IS SEA TO SEA ARMENIA.!!!!

I like that!

[Yervant1]

and everything has it's time

just like every dog has it's day

In his case it is

Every deve (camel) has it's day.

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I don't think Turkey will ever attack Armenia at least not in the near future. Because it will be considered as an attack against Russia.

 

Just try to guess the consequences zurderer.

 

In the past you had 3 wars with Russia and you've lost all of them.

 

So don't even go there zurederer.

Edited February 12, 2007 by Error 404

[hosank]

hmmm

 

Առիական ախբեր

 

ին՞չ ընէնք Բաքուի հետ

what are we supposed to do with all these turks in our lands?

no, if war brakes out, we stay in the trenches, let those turk pigs bleed till all their sons will be sacrificed for a cause that they do not even believe in.

once that happens, we go to naxichevan, then we force georgia into an alliance. after humiliating azeribaijan into pacification, we get wilsonian armenia.

 

[hosank]

beh Edited February 13, 2007 by hosank

[Arpa]

hmmm

 

Առիական ախբեր

 

ին՞չ ընէնք Բաքուի հետ

what are we supposed to do with all these turks in our lands?

no, if war brakes out, we stay in the trenches, let those turk pigs bleed till all their sons will be sacrificed for a cause that they do not even believe in.

once that happens, we go to naxichevan, then we force georgia into an alliance. after humiliating azeribaijan into pacification, we get wilsonian armenia.

Yes. Yes. By all means. Let us.

While we’re at it, let us walk on Baku, conquer another 7 million Muslim Azeri Turks. Continue south, conquer another 20 million Muslim Iranian Azeris. To the north, we will walk on Moscow and conquer some 100 million Chechens, Russians, Circassians, Cossacks. Then, of course, we will march west, all the way to Klikia, conquer some 40 million Muslim Turks, Kurds and other riff-raff. Who wildfowl this? Of course! The Artsakhtsis will walk on to Baku, the Javakhetsis will walk on to Moscow, the Ashtaraketsis will conquer Western Armenia, the Meghretsis will invade Tabriz and Tehran, The Haleptsis and Beirutsis will reconquer Kilikia, the Anjartsis will reclaim Musa Ler… and so on.

Not to worry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLQKnJuXc34...ted&search=

We will make Turkish, Azeri, Russian, Kurdish and whatever else sh*t the official language of Yerevan, we will bestow on the Katholikos the title of Supreme Patriarch/Mullah of the Empire, endow him with absolute power to incinerate anyone who does not fit the definition of an Apostolic, like Muslim Apostolic, Russian Apostolic, Persian Apostolic … etc..

Hey! That will once and for all solve the problem of those pesky cults like Yehovakans, protestants and other garbage.

Has anyone heard the saying- the Armenian variant-”Votqk@d vermakit hamemat yerkareh”. “Bite only that you can chew“?

No wonder we can’t even digest that postage stamp size country left to us.

 

 

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Most of the azeri and turkey threats are baloney, air. This is their politics since the time we know them.

 

Azerbaijan definitively is not what it represents itself militarely. I must admit they have got new equipment and had enough time to take a breath after the war.

 

But they know they are going to fight an occupational war. Which brakes the morale.

[zurderer]

I don't think Turkey will ever attack Armenia at least not in the near future. Because it will be considered as an attack against Russia.

 

I am not talking a turkish supprise attack to ROA(But ROA supprise attack to Turkey). True, Turkey will not attack ROA but do we need it?

 

We should just wait another 100 year, and no armenian will become problem for Turkey. Diaspora will diminish a small community and ROA will be just a backward state isolated from world. why should we attack ROA when we can gain our aims without any risk and loss.

 

Just try to guess the consequences zurderer.

 

In the past you had 3 wars with Russia and you've lost all of them.

 

So don't even go there zurederer.

 

do you realy think, russia will war with Turkey because of ROA?

 

Yes, Russia is more powerful from Turkey but It would be a hard war for russia too.(And what will russia gain? absolutely not istanbul or ankara.) So most probably, she will just watch.

 

Turkey wont attack ROA because of economical and political hardships, not militaristic one.

 

 

and everything has it's time

just like every dog has it's day

 

true, but It looks like ROA should wait much to bite.