Jewish Lobbyists Try To Fight Genocide Resolution!

[ArmoBlog]

Hi friends,

 

Did you know that the Jewish lobby in the U.S. is trying to undermine the Armenian Genocide Resolution? Hard to believe, huh?

 

Here's an excerpt:

 

"...he didn't even want to imagine what it would be like if Turkish-U.S. relations were further crippled by the Armenian bill after the row over Iraq. U.S. diplomats express similar concerns. However, the bill has already turned into a scare for the Jewish lobby in the United States. The only hope, for now, is Turkey's opening up its border with Armenia."

[MosJan]

Jewish Lobby in U.S. Call on Turkey to Move

15.01.2007 15:57 GMT+04:00 Print version Send to mail In Russian In Armenian

 

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ A member of the Jewish lobby in the United States said “if Turkey doesn't do something, the Armenian genocide bill will pass in the U.S. Congress despite our best efforts to block it,” reports Turkish Daily News. In his words, neither the Jewish lobby nor President George W. Bush's last-minute efforts will stop the bill. The current political environment in the United States has turned against Turkey to an unprecedented degree. The degree is so large that the Armenian National Committee of America expressed in a statement issued last week that their chances for passing the bill are now the highest they have been in the last decade. For all these reasons, the U.S. Jewish lobby which has always managed to block the Armenian genocide bill in the past has warned the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) to “either do something or be ready to face the consequences.”

 

According to the author of the article, there are three possible variants. A group of senior diplomats criticize Turkey's past policies regarding the allegation and assert that “there's nothing we can do after this hour.” Some in the Jewish Lobby believe that it is still not too late. If Turkey established diplomatic relations and opened the borders with Armenia, the tide could turn around. They have already suggested this as a way out to the Turkish MFA. A third group says, since an overwhelming majority of parliaments in the world have already recognized the genocide, the United States will inevitably have to join them in the end. Turkey should be producing pro-active policies rather than reactionary policies on this topic. Another official from the MFA said, “Although the atmosphere in the United States seems to be against Turks, we can still get some of the Democrats and Republicans on our side by staying on top of the issue. It is not too late.” The same official said he didn't even want to imagine what it would be like if Turkish-U.S. relations were further crippled by the Armenian bill after the row over Iraq. U.S. diplomats express similar concerns. However, the bill has already turned into a scare for the Jewish lobby in the United States. The only hope, for now, is Turkey's opening up its border with Armenia. Although the MFA seems to be favoring a more pro-active policy, this seems unlikely since 2007 is the year of general elections in Turkey. Thus, the year 2007 is pregnant with a crisis that would leave even crises over the presidential elections and the general elections in the shadow, with the Jewish lobby already warning the Turkish MFA about the yet unborn child.

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[Aramik]

I am not surprised since many jews in turkey ( especially kripto-jews) participated in the planning and committing the genocide.

Jews saw the Armenian as competition in the trade sector.

 

The second reason is, that they don't want to lose their MONOPOLY in 20th Century Genocide remembrance. + reparations.

 

They think that only Jews have the right to morn their victims of genocide.

 

 

 

Hi friends,

 

Did you know that the Jewish lobby in the U.S. is trying to undermine the Armenian Genocide Resolution? Hard to believe, huh?

 

Here's an excerpt:

 

"...he didn't even want to imagine what it would be like if Turkish-U.S. relations were further crippled by the Armenian bill after the row over Iraq. U.S. diplomats express similar concerns. However, the bill has already turned into a scare for the Jewish lobby in the United States. The only hope, for now, is Turkey's opening up its border with Armenia."

Full entry here:

 

http://armoblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/jewis...t-armenian.html

 

Lav eghek!

[Aramik]

I must say , I have allways been a friend of the jews but getting gradually more and more ANTISEMITIC!!!!

I am not surprised since many jews in turkey ( especially kripto-jews) participated in the planning and committing the genocide.

Jews saw the Armenian as competition in the trade sector.

 

The second reason is, that they don't want to lose their MONOPOLY in 20th Century Genocide remembrance. + reparations.

 

They think that only Jews have the right to morn their victims of genocide.

[phantom22]

Again, hot-headed Armenians ruled by their emotions and not their intellect.

 

I guess there are very few of those of us who miraculously got the genes of the Armenian intelligentsia passed down to us, as the majority of the Armenia intelligentsia and their families were exterminated.

 

Are you guy and gals THAT stupid? Can't you read what is really happening vis-a-vis the Jews whose homeland is involved economically with Turkey?

 

They are passing the torch to the Turks themselves. They are washing their hands of the whole affair and telling the Turks that the potato is too hot to handle this time.

 

Even Tom Lantos, their strongest supporter in the past, is no longer on the front lines for them.

 

Jewish Lobby in U.S. Call on Turkey to Move

15.01.2007 15:57 GMT+04:00 Print version Send to mail In Russian In Armenian

 

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ A member of the Jewish lobby in the United States said “if Turkey doesn't do something, the Armenian genocide bill will pass in the U.S. Congress despite our best efforts to block it,” reports Turkish Daily News. In his words, neither the Jewish lobby nor President George W. Bush's last-minute efforts will stop the bill. The current political environment in the United States has turned against Turkey to an unprecedented degree. The degree is so large that the Armenian National Committee of America expressed in a statement issued last week that their chances for passing the bill are now the highest they have been in the last decade. For all these reasons, the U.S. Jewish lobby which has always managed to block the Armenian genocide bill in the past has warned the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) to “either do something or be ready to face the consequences.”

 

According to the author of the article, there are three possible variants. A group of senior diplomats criticize Turkey's past policies regarding the allegation and assert that “there's nothing we can do after this hour.” Some in the Jewish Lobby believe that it is still not too late. If Turkey established diplomatic relations and opened the borders with Armenia, the tide could turn around. They have already suggested this as a way out to the Turkish MFA. A third group says, since an overwhelming majority of parliaments in the world have already recognized the genocide, the United States will inevitably have to join them in the end. Turkey should be producing pro-active policies rather than reactionary policies on this topic. Another official from the MFA said, “Although the atmosphere in the United States seems to be against Turks, we can still get some of the Democrats and Republicans on our side by staying on top of the issue. It is not too late.” The same official said he didn't even want to imagine what it would be like if Turkish-U.S. relations were further crippled by the Armenian bill after the row over Iraq. U.S. diplomats express similar concerns. However, the bill has already turned into a scare for the Jewish lobby in the United States. The only hope, for now, is Turkey's opening up its border with Armenia. Although the MFA seems to be favoring a more pro-active policy, this seems unlikely since 2007 is the year of general elections in Turkey. Thus, the year 2007 is pregnant with a crisis that would leave even crises over the presidential elections and the general elections in the shadow, with the Jewish lobby already warning the Turkish MFA about the yet unborn child.

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[Takoush]

Again, hot-headed Armenians ruled by their emotions and not their intellect.

 

I guess there are very few of those of us who miraculously got the genes of the Armenian intelligentsia passed down to us, as the majority of the Armenia intelligentsia and their families were exterminated.

 

Are you guy and gals THAT stupid? Can't you read what is really happening vis-a-vis the Jews whose homeland is involved economically with Turkey?

 

They are passing the torch to the Turks themselves. They are washing their hands of the whole affair and telling the Turks that the potato is too hot to handle this time.

 

Even Tom Lantos, their strongest supporter in the past, is no longer on the front lines for them.

Ok smart and cool headed Armenian, and why was it that it was handled and supported by them BIG time until today? Can you explain it further please?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 18, 2007 by Anahid Takouhi

[phantom22]

SELF-INTEREST, pure and simple. The heads of worldwide Jewry sense that the tectonic plates are shifting in Turkey. They are on to Turkey's game and Mein Kampf is a best-seller in Turkey. Also the Turkish propaganda campaign is falling upon deaf ears. While information about the Soviet Union was restricted in the West, Jews did not know that Jewish refugees would gravitate to Armenia under Soviet rule, since it was one of the areas most accepting and tolerant of Jews. For decades Turks agitated Jews against Armenians and Armenians against Jews for the better interests of the Turkish state.

 

An independent Kurdistan and a greater Armenia are now in their best interests. It all has to do with the breakup of the Soviet Union.

 

 

Ok smart and cool headed Armenian, and why was it that it was handled and supported by them BIG time until today? Can you explain it further please?

 

[Aratta-Kingdom]

Again, hot-headed Armenians ruled by their emotions and not their intellect.

 

 

and who the hell are you to insult the entire nation of people?

 

 

 

I guess there are very few of those of us who miraculously got the genes of the Armenian intelligentsia passed down to us, as the majority of the Armenia intelligentsia and their families were exterminated.

 

 

cut the crap, would you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are you guy and gals THAT stupid?

 

 

 

and they are stupid because they don't agree with you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can't you read what is really happening vis-a-vis the Jews whose homeland is involved economically with Turkey?

 

 

 

 

and?

 

 

 

 

 

 

They are passing the torch to the Turks themselves.

 

 

 

why were they involved in this in the first place?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They are washing their hands of the whole affair and telling the Turks that the potato is too hot to handle this time.

 

 

 

 

no sh!@. after what the young turksdid, who in fact were jews from salonika, and after that there is no christian armeian left in westernarmenia, now they are washing their hands?

 

 

Even Tom Lantos, their strongest supporter in the past, is no longer on the front lines for them.

 

 

does it mean he now recognizes the armenian genocide? why was/is he their strongest supporter in the fight against the recognition of the armenian genocide?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Aratta-Kingdom]

SELF-INTEREST, pure and simple.

 

 

 

Hitler had SELF-INTEREST TOO. Does it in any way justify what he did to millions of innocent people who were the victim in WWII? Is it in their best interest to back up now? Was it in their best interest to support the azeri-turks in the fight against Kharabak?

 

 

 

 

 

 

The heads of worldwide Jewry sense that the tectonic plates are shifting in Turkey.

 

 

 

are you their spokseman? what is their new plan?

 

 

 

 

 

They are on to Turkey's game and Mein Kampf is a best-seller in Turkey.

 

 

 

so the lives of millions of armenians who were massacred means nothing to them. SELF-INTEREST, as you said, is the driving force behind this and that justifiec their anti-Armenian acts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also the Turkish propaganda campaign is falling upon deaf ears. While information about the Soviet Union was restricted in the West, Jews did not know that Jewish refugees would gravitate to Armenia under Soviet rule, since it was one of the areas most accepting and tolerant of Jews.

 

 

 

and this is the thank you the armenians get? after saving over 30,000 jewish lives who run from Tsarist-Russia to armenia, they found shelter in armenia-in a time when armenian were dying from hunger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For decades Turks agitated Jews against Armenians and Armenians against Jews for the better interests of the Turkish state.

 

 

WOW! You mean to tell us that the turks have a brain power to use the jews? So what happened to the jewish 'SELF-INTEREST' that you been talking about?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

An independent Kurdistan and a greater Armenia are now in their best interests. It all has to do with the breakup of the Soviet Union.

 

 

Now it makes sense. Now I know why they don't wanna support the turks anymore. Armenians are out of wester-Armenia, and the turks became to powerful. Since the kurds are people with no proper education, it is much easier to deal with them, right?

 

 

 

 

 

[phantom22]

ArmoArmen,

 

Ignorance and emotion will not bring about positive results. Stop thinking that justice is what happens in this world. It is all about interests. Please don't be naive! Nobody will care about all the dead Armenians unless there is a benefit for them. Seize the hour! Times are a changin'!

[Aratta-Kingdom]

ArmoArmen,

 

Ignorance and emotion will not bring about positive results. Stop thinking that justice is what happens in this world. It is all about interests. Please don't be naive! Nobody will care about all the dead Armenians unless there is a benefit for them. Seize the hour! Times are a changin'!

 

 

where you think you live, in a jungle? and what is this trash talk we are having? do you honestly belive by throwing that crap at me i'll give you a chance to gain new ground and spread more nonsense? if that's the best you can do then let me say your 'propaganda campaign is falling upon deaf ears'too. just like it was the case with the turks, you failed and you will fail for trying to overshadow the truth with your nonsense.

 

[Aratta-Kingdom]

ArmoArmen,

 

It is all about interests.

 

 

people like who you define/justify interest are those who cheat, steal, kill, lie, and belive it's in their god given right to consume the goods that is created by those who act with good intentions. people like you put love & lust, faith & religion, good name & reputation on the same level. kill or be killed for the sake of interest is a rule that belongs to jungle. you live with a jungle rule and i must not expect from you much.

[Lev7]

people like who you define/justify interest are those who cheat, steal, kill, lie, and belive it's in their god given right to consume the goods that is created by those who act with good intentions. people like you put love & lust, faith & religion, good name & reputation on the same level. kill or be killed for the sake of interest is a rule that belongs to jungle. you live with a jungle rule and i must not expect from you much.

 

wake up and smell the roses! Throughout our history we always depended on others and waited until they show compassion towards us, what happened? We were killed, our lands taken away and we were driven away. Finally Armenians started to realize that until we take things into our own hands, we will always be in the shade. I think the Karabagh victory finally started to change the tides. No, nation on Earth would accept our surrows solely based on humanitarian reasons, that is why we have to fight and use every opportunity we can get to put forward our agenda. The sooner every Armenian realizes this, the sooner we will prevail.

[phantom]

wake up and smell the roses! Throughout our history we always depended on others and waited until they show compassion towards us, what happened? We were killed, our lands taken away and we were driven away. Finally Armenians started to realize that until we take things into our own hands, we will always be in the shade. I think the Karabagh victory finally started to change the tides. No, nation on Earth would accept our surrows solely based on humanitarian reasons, that is why we have to fight and use every opportunity we can get to put forward our agenda. The sooner every Armenian realizes this, the sooner we will prevail.

 

Amen, I could not agree with you more. We didn't learn our lesson in 1896. We waited 30 years for the Europeans and Russians to come to our rescue and save us from the Bloody Sultan and then the Young Turks. Nobody saved us, and we were too weak and dejected to save ourselves. I wish I were as optimistic as you about what we've learned from the past. But, unfortunately, we are still dependent on Russia, a country who's people hate us and would love nothing more than to see us dead. The Europeans, of course, or less than worthless, because they give us false hope, a false hope that we have sucked up for 150 years. I don't see the Armenian nation (diaspora and the country) doing anything to ensure its longterm survival. I don't see wealthy and learned diasporans going to Armenia and building factories and industries, only churches, apartment buildings, and museums. We should be there building a defense industry, for our own use and for export to countries unlikely to ever attack us. Armenia will always be on the brink of destruction, because we have at least two neighbors who want nothing more than to see us totally erased. The only way to minimize or eliminate this threat is to become a threat, like Israel. If they've taught us anything, it's that a small and seemingly weak people can rise and become a world military superpower. We should be doing the same. I'm not saying we should not build museums and churches, but where are our industrial leaders. Today, we are begging Serbia to sell us a few guns, why don't we manufacture them ourselves? Why don't we build long-range missiles and point them right at Baku and Ankara? Why aren't we sending our brightest minds to Yerevan and funding them to invent new weapons that can be used to defend Armenia so that we don't have to rely on slavic meatheads who hate us?

 

We have lived in America for 90 years, have we learned nothing from the American can-do attitude? What's wrong with us? I know it's not lack of brains, so what is it we are lacking?

[Armenak]

Why would we need to send bright minds to Yerevan? What of the prominent Soviet-educated Armenians? Surely some of them must have learned a thing or two about nuclear weapons.

[phantom]

Why would we need to send bright minds to Yerevan? What of the prominent Soviet-educated Armenians? Surely some of them must have learned a thing or two about nuclear weapons.

 

I meant mostly the ones who have left Yerevan in the first place, and those from the diaspora who may have special expertise.

[Aratta-Kingdom]

wake up and smell the roses! Throughout our history we always depended on others and waited until they show compassion towards us, what happened? We were killed, our lands taken away and we were driven away. Finally Armenians started to realize that until we take things into our own hands, we will always be in the shade. I think the Karabagh victory finally started to change the tides. No, nation on Earth would accept our surrows solely based on humanitarian reasons, that is why we have to fight and use every opportunity we can get to put forward our agenda. The sooner every Armenian realizes this, the sooner we will prevail.

 

 

Lve7, there is a huge difference between those who are ACRITVE-and those who are REACTIVE.

To defend your rights and to defend your country isn't the same as to massacre people by millions.

 

 

[AntranigBey]

They did it under Clinton and they'll do it again.

Like Monte, I'm not concerned about any foreign 'recognition'.

 

[ArmoBlog]

You should be concerned.

 

 

[Armenak]

Weren't they already?