Azat Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 I just figured out that Armenians are idiots. Has anyone been to any one of the grocery stores in Glendale and Burbank? Have you guys noticed what they sell and what our families and friends spend their hard earned money on? I am not kidding or over-exaggerating when I say that at least 95% of all Armenian groceries in Glendale and Burbank are selling Turkish products and I am SURE that it is the Armenian customers who buy these things. it really pisses me off that Turkey will have a blockade against Armenia yet they can sell their products here in the Diaspora. They too must think that Armenians are idiots. I am sure they tell other business people how they screw us in Armenia by making our families and relatives suffer with their blockade there and how they turn around and sell their products to Armenians in the states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Azat:I just figured out that Armenians are idiots. Has anyone been to any one of the grocery stores in Glendale and Burbank? Have you guys noticed what they sell and what our families and friends spend their hard earned money on? I am not kidding or over-exaggerating when I say that at least 95% of all Armenian groceries in Glendale and Burbank are selling Turkish products and I am SURE that it is the Armenian customers who buy these things. it really pisses me off that Turkey will have a blockade against Armenia yet they can sell their products here in the Diaspora. They too must think that Armenians are idiots. I am sure they tell other business people how they screw us in Armenia by making our families and relatives suffer with their blockade there and how they turn around and sell their products to Armenians in the states.I totally agree with you...I've heard about this before ...what I don't understand is why these storeowners carry these products???( and close shop for the 24th!)...and why the public doesn't pay attention to what it is they buy? Well, I guess that's human nature not to read where your product came from(oh! I read everything from nutrition facts to ingredients to active/inactive drugs in an OTC product...etc.etc.etc...) what we need is some good awareness promotion campaign...because I'm sure once people KNOW! what they're paying for...hopefully! most will think twice!! it's not just about promoting recognition for 4/24...all this other "little" stuff counts as well!!! Go ahead Azat! here's your assignment (since I'm not living in l.a. right now!otherwise I'd help you out!) find out the product names/details, generate a list and MASS EMAIL ATTACK!!! (just kidding! but I think that's a good start---via e-mail) then, we'll book you on one of the local armo programs and you can discuss this! I'm quite serious! every person makes a difference! (Or if you're camera shy we'll have Sip or MJ come along with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted February 14, 2003 Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 Azat jan menq bavakanin jamanak araj mek angam xcosetsin sra masin - yev urax em tesnelu vor ches moratsel !!! yes inqs amen xanut gnalis misht el pitaknerin nayum em - chnayats verjers shat djvar e darstel tesnel te ove patrastor@ - qanzi mi qani americyan Co.ner arden iyster en katarum pahatsoneri pakelu yev pitakavorelu gortsorutyun@. so chgites te vor terits e sa, sakayn yete n@paravajarin ases - kasi yes chtsaxem urish@ k@tsaxi - Hay@ chtsaxi Parsik@ yev Arab@ k@tsaxi im hajaxordn el etter k@gna - ov e vnasvum ? Hye Gortsater - Arajarkum em avelatsnel hetevyal@ qo garaparin - voch miyayn chgnal turqakan apranqner - iyl pahanjel iys Gortsaterits vro nermutsu nayev Haykakan Apranqner. SADF - IndoErupian te tesak mi ban - ov uzzum e lini - pahanjel kam arajarkel hishumes No on Made In Turky ??husov em shutov bavakain mardiq nuynpes k@miyanan mez - so yete jamanak unes mi yerktor gri anglerenov yev mets hajuyqov bolor mer web sitneri vra post kanem. vstah em shat u shat Hayer nuynpes k@masnaktsen - yev jisht e mer hyebruin petq e batsatrel mardkanst te inchu - te inchn e patjar@ - so duq Text@ tveq ys im hnaravorutyan sahmanerum kanem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted February 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 Movses jan, shat lav hishum em yerp irar het xosetsing sra masin. Motavorapes 1 1.5 tari arach.(sorry angleren poxem) But, in the last year year an a half it has gone nutty here. I am not kidding, Every store you enter there they are. Apricot jams, tomato paste, nuts, dried fruits, olives, etc. You name it and the Armenians are buying it. Sireli Bruin jan, it is not the store owners who should be blamed. As long as there is demand someone is going to sell them, it is the Armenian consumer who is at fault. I do like your idea on the email campaign, but the idea of putting me on TV may scare all the Armenians out of LA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted February 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 Oh and about not knowing what they are buying part. I think they may claim that they do not know, but I am SURE they all do. Especially since one oh the biggest product likes has a name like "Turkmen" or something like so. I even looked up the importer on one of the packages and was SHOCKED to find that the name it was an Armenian name that was importing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted February 14, 2003 Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 Exactly my point Azat! I have rise this question long time ago and the answer was: "You see, that way we make money (living) and eventually help Armenia!" I say: "Bullshit!" But Turks are cleverer than that. Once they exhaust all trade opportunities (quotas in EU and USA), the start buying "trademarks", from countries that have difficulties reaching their amount of export production. Then you can see a product that has "Made in Romania" stamp, but it is all turkish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted February 14, 2003 Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 As an act of protest against Turkish government for its illegal blocade of Republic of Armenia, I refuse to buy any product that is made in Turkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted February 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 Harut, I am with you on this, but how do we make others not buy anything. Movses use to have good ideas about it long while ago. I think that it is time to do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 14, 2003 Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 I'm of a very mixed mind about this one. On one hand I certainly see boycotting Turkish products as a justified response to the Turkish blockade of Armenia (and perhaps even as a protest against Armenian Genocide denial). On the other hand it seems to me that if one does a boycott it must either cause the nation/corporation/activity/whatever being boycotted some noticable harm or it must be useful for generating publicity concerning whatever grievance was cause to the boycott - or both. I guess I can also see just the symbolism of the boycott - a sort of feel good thing - having value for those doing it...(if one really wants to give up those Camels and such...) I don't much see the Armenian community on its own (lack of our business) doing #1 - bringing Turkish exports to their knees - or doing any significant harm realy...but perhaps I am wrong - perhaps Armenian Diaspora purchases are a significant percentage of sales for exported Turkish products (I am guilty BTW)...as for #2 - making a scene of it - calling attention to the Blockade or to Genocide denial...well...maybe...but a boycott in and of itself isn't enough - IMO - and in this time period it is likely to be way overshadowed by events in the Middle East, terrorism concerns in general and concerns with the economy (at least here in the States). As for #3 - makes us feel good - a strike at the "enemy" etc...well I suppose - though at best it seems symbolic without effect. The bottom line is that Turkey is producing products with appeal to Armenians (in the Diaspora - and I suspect in Armenia). And in fact trade/promotion of trade - (particularly Armenia-Turkey) is, I think, a good thing. We want barriers to fall I think - not just be perpetuated. And many of those (Turks) entering into trade agreeements (with Armenia) and trying to get their products out have and are, I think, at the forefront of normalizing relations etc - and are a force for reproachment. So if we boycott - who (if anyone) are we going to hurt? The Turkish economy (just a little?) - doubt it...Joe Turk jelly maker or fig grower? Is he really the enemy? So I think we need to think further on this. I for one buy rose and fig jam, figs, stuffed grape leaves and other stuff made in Turkey - even some wool pajamas (very warm and nice & soft...) I bought recently were from Turkey (though I didn't know it until after the fact). I have no problem with this per se - but again I can see both the justification for and possible effect of a boycott (maybe - butr only if really done right...)...though I'm not just sure if it really can be pulled off in any meaningful way or if it might even proove detrimental. Don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubo Posted February 14, 2003 Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 I feel differently about the stores being open on 24th. They should be open and all the profits should be donated to worthy causes.I agree with you Azat and share your outrage. In Boston it is lot less products from Turkey.We do have plenty of products from Armenia that can easily compete with the Turkish ones. For example dried fruits, jams, dried herbs, dried pees, beans, tomato pastes are also available in Armenia and distributed in US.I believe bad habits established long ego has cemented the consciousness of these store owners but things have changed. Now we have a free Armenia and no reason not to support our fellow Armenians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted February 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 I guess I am not looking for a blockade or for a way to hurt the Turkish industry or the individual producer. I don't care about that whole thing. For me, it is just amazing how we as a group of people just never care. We talk the talk but never walk the walk. This is why I said that Armenians are idiots on the first message. I don't have any figures to tell you or anyone if we form significant part of their market. I don't care to generate any news, or anything like that. I am just amazed at my fellow Armenians. We should not look for a way to hurt a Turk, but for a way to help an Armenian. For you see that our purchases may be an insignificant for Turkey, it is very significant for Armenia. Rubo jan, I agree with you. Every store you walk in there are products from Armenia for practically the same things(jams, dried fruit, fruit juice, tomato paste, and yes even caned figs). I think this should even be more of a reason why people should not buy the Turkish stuff, but I know that they do. I see it all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted February 14, 2003 Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 Well I totally and fully agree with the concept (and practice) of buying and supporting importation of products from Armenia as an alternative to buying products from Turkey (or elsewhere). Perhaps what we might do when we see shops with these Turkieh (and other) products where we know similar (or identical) Armenian ones is to provide a distributor or other information to obtain these products. But you know as well as I - many of these shop owners will buy from who they have before out of habit and/or laziness or will be unwilling because of increased costs or such...but perhaps you/we can have some sucess. There are no Armenian groceries or such where I live now. Sure some Lebanese and Egyptian...and others such as this - but no Armenian. They do carry some Armenian products and I have been vocal in asking for and purchasing such. Recently one (Palestinian) asked me if I knew a source for Armenian Soujouk because he said is was certainly the best (I didn't...can anyone help me here?). He promissed to make me some scumptious creatin using SOujouk if I could find a source for him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted February 14, 2003 Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Azat:Harut, I am with you on this, but how do we make others not buy anything. Movses use to have good ideas about it long while ago. I think that it is time to do something.The way you do that is by attaching a big stigma to it....like if an armenian keeps their business open on 4/24 (hastat hyereh drahn g'h mortehn!) or yeteh hye (manavand axchik sevakaneeh hed amusnahanah!) you know BIG No-No's like that!!! This issue has not reached the general consciousness of the armenian people in general like other issues have...and once it gets there...there will be the stigma attached to buying turkish made products and people would be less likely to buy---> thus, reduced demand! Q.E.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misakz Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 The solution is to boycott Products made in Turkey. Visit the Boycott Turkey Campaign Website to learn how to spot Turkish made goods: http://www.boycott-turkey.org/ Support the campaign, by getting a bumper sticker http://www.boycott-turkey.org/support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 why waist the money making pumper stickers? just go at night and put shamfull posters on stores doors see if you would make a difarance? nothing, but april 24th thay will all be drassed in black, along with guccy glasess, masrching and smiling wile LA times would print even a ficken story regarding the 24th pumper sickers ha? i simply think they are armenian speaking turks, nothing less or more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianjan Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 As an act of protest against Turkish government for its illegal blocade of Republic of Armenia, I refuse to buy any product that is made in Turkey. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 As an act of protest against Turkish government for its illegal blocade of Republic of Armenia, I refuse to buy any product that is made in Turkey. Not only you and I; but my daughter as well. When she sees a Turkish made product, she says this is made in Turkey (I don't want it). +A1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvestaked Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) Stores carry Turkish products because often they're the only country doing major exports for those products or at least products of quality. There are a lot of Turkish products, yes, but I shop at Armenian stores all the time and 95% is an exaggeration. There are Bulgarian, Lebanese, Syrian, and Armenian products as well, which don't leave room for an entire store of Turkish products. That said I always dream of creating industry in Armenia to replace the products that get imported from Turkey. Like sumac syrup. Only comes from Turkey. Nowhere else. Too bad. What can be so difficult about planting some sumac trees in an orchard. Anyway, I boycott the Turkish products. I always look. And if I can't tell (sometimes you can't), I probably won't buy it. Edited June 7, 2007 by Arvestaked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) And what do say about those who buy Turkish products, mostly textile, like bathrobes , and cut the label? Once a good otar friend of mine, who knew the connection of Apricots, Prunus Armeniaca so proudly gave me a can of this. The next time you see one of these cans read the label. http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp...p;id=prod362477 I hate to remember the expression on their face when I showed them the fine print where it said “product of turkey”. Turks selling the world Haykakan Tsirn/Հայակական Ծիրան? Not to forget that all that textile was developed by people , the likes od “bezjian/linen makers” and “meshefejian/bathrobe/terry cloth makers”. "meshefeh/menshefeh, Arabic to mean 'dryer'. Now can we have some "Ես իմ անուշ Հայաստանի արեւահան բարն եմ սիրում " . “arevaham bar”, tsiran ew touz em siroum, sunsweet fruit? Plesase leave aside the delicious "touzes"** of our beautiful ladies. **If you don't know yhat that implies I am too modest to tell you. Ask your (grand)mother. Edited June 7, 2007 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Sadly no ones going to look for "made in Turkey" our cuisines are very similar big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Sadly no ones going to look for "made in Turkey" our cuisines are very similar big deal. many do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 many do Yes Movses jan; my 12 year old daughter does. She checks everything before buying that it's not made in Turkey. I am so proud of her. She says mommy they killed most Armenians and I don't want to buy any Turkish products. Yes el esi iren Ապրիս աղչիկս: Դուն շատ աղվոր աղչիկս ես եւ շատ ու շատ ճիշտ ես: In short, if my 12 year old daughter checks very thoroughly to avoid all turkish products, not to purchase them; surely every good Armenian could and should do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 many do Mos Jan do you go to stores and look if its made in Turkey? The products are already bought and many Armenians will go ahead and buy them since we have identically foods. I can understand how this can be a productive way to crash there system but it won't help, you need to be louder about this and try other things and I'm not sure if people will want to argue about food but maybe even take Armenians as a joke. Also do you think it is right to say they killed us? who? the government the people? I'm sure many Jews buy German products. For the post above me about her daughter, we can educate but do it in a more educationally way not by hating them get around it, meaning don't say Turks killed us since she is young there are many different sides for example it was organized the Turks used Kurds to kill Armenians right? okay.... anyway most Turks in Turkey are blind about our side they are being shown the fake side, claiming it was not a Genocide and that Armenians killed Turks which is absurd. Not all Turks hate Armenians, I've talked to some who said don't let the Genocide deniers give us a bad name, since he supports the Armenians, his grandparents were witnesses of the Genocide by Turks, his grandfather said they rounded up the men and started killing them in the villages but there was little they could do or the Turks that stored Armenians in there houses for protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 yes i avoid baying made in t products i will not spend a dime on it / nor i will let my kids and family consume anything form turkey - it's me my personal preference - your free to do what you wish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvestaked Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I can understand how this can be a productive way to crash there system but it won't help, you need to be louder about this and try other things and I'm not sure if people will want to argue about food but maybe even take Armenians as a joke. It's a matter of principle; not an effort to "crash the system". They committed "crimes against humanity" upon the Armenian ethnicity and owe our community a long overdue appology and reparations. Giving that country money in the interim is a ridiculous thing to do. Also do you think it is right to say they killed us? who? the government the people? They are covering up the fact that their ancestors did this. I guess you didn't notice. I'm sure many Jews buy German products. Germans have paid their dues and the crimes committed against the Jews are well represented in the history books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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