Sasun Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Not sure Sri Chinmoy would approve. Maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Tough-Talking Aliev Threatens Renewed War With Armenia www.armenialiberty.org By Emil Danielyan Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliev on Wednesday blamed Armenia for the collapse of last month’s crucial peace talks on Nagorno-Karabakh and urged his countrymen to be prepared for winning back the Armenian-controlled territory by force. The remarks followed Aliev’s effective rejection of an international peace plan that would reportedly enable Karabakh’s predominantly ethnic Armenian population to formalize its de facto secession from Azerbaijan. "The Armenian side is stalling for time and the fact that the negotiating process has reached a dead end is the fault of the Armenian side," AFP news agency quoted Aliev as saying during a visit to areas in western Azerbaijan close to Karabakh. "Azerbaijan must review its position," he said, adding that his nation’s "military expenditures have grown" to be ready for "any eventuality". "We are the victimized party and this gives us the right to resolve the issue by any means. We must get ready and the population must be mobilized," Aliev said. The comments are certain to reinforce renewed pessimism about prospects for Karabakh peace that has set in since the dramatic failure of the February 10-11 talks near Paris between Aliev and his Armenian counterpart Robert Kocharian. International mediators hoped that the two leaders will cut a framework deal that reportedly calls for the holding of a referendum on Karabakh’s status in 10-15 years from the start of Armenian withdrawal from Azerbaijani territories surrounding the disputed enclave. Their unusually upbeat statements made in recent months suggest that the conflicting parties had agreed on this peace formula in principle. Some Armenian pro-government politicians say the Paris summit ended in failure because of Aliev’s last-minute rejection of the referendum option. The Azerbaijani leader lent credence to this theory last week when he told Turkish NTV television that a referendum in Karabakh is unacceptable as it would run counter to Azerbaijan’s constitution. “We will never agree to Karabakh’s secession from Azerbaijan,” he said. Aliev implied that he is unhappy with the mediators’ most recent peace proposals and believes Baku will get a better deal in the future. “We should think whether to hastily agree to some agreement not beneficial for us or to achieve better results after waiting for a while,” he said. “I prefer the latter.” Aliev also repeated his intention to use Azerbaijan’s soaring oil revenues for a massive military build-up which he said will eventually force the Armenians to give up Karabakh. "We are becoming the leading state in the region and Armenia can not compete with us," he claimed on Wednesday. Azerbaijan is to almost double its military budget to $600 million this year and plans further hikes in the coming years. The Armenian military, by comparison, will get only $165 million in 2006. Armenian leaders have repeatedly played down the widening gap between Baku’s and Yerevan’s defense expenditures, insisting that it will not translate into Azerbaijani military superiority anytime soon. Meanwhile, the French, Russian and U.S. mediators acting under the aegis of the OSCE Minsk Group are scheduled to meet in Washington on Monday to discuss ways of salvaging the peace process. According to media reports, the meeting may well be followed by fresh talks between the foreign ministers and even the presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan. Speaking to RFE/RL on February 21, the Minsk Group’s U.S. co-chair, Steven Mann, said he still believes that "2006 is the year for [achieving] a solution." Mann warned that failure to resolve the Karabakh conflict this year would be a “true tragedy.” For his part, Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian said on February 14 that Yerevan still hopes that a breakthrough can be achieved this year. However, regional and Western analysts are now far more pessimistic. “The fact that time and the oil boom are likely to shift the military balance in Azerbaijan’s favor perhaps helps to explain Mr. Aliev’s refusal to cut a deal,” the London-based Economist Intelligence Unit said in a detailed analysis released last week. “It is quite possible that he calculates that in five years time he will be in a position to drive a much harder bargain with Armenia.” “The window of opportunity for 2006 appears to be closed; it is not clear how many more there will be,” the EIU concluded grimly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 If I remember correctly Ilham Alieve was a gambling addict. Seems like he is gambling again, this time he is gambling with time and at stake is basically his country and lives of many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanFedayi Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Q. What do civilised azeris and UFO's have in common? A. You always hear about them but never see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 next we will get this - the video was staged by Armenians who has crossed over the border in to Nakhijevan and destroyed old azeri cross stones - Yes, same thing for Sumgait. It was actually Armenians killing Azeris as Justin McCarthy would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Q. What do civilised azeris and UFO's have in common? A. You always hear about them but never see them. You just gave Azeries another reason as to what happened to the Jugha cemetery cross stones. The UFO's did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 forum people It's true that their actions are starting to become really ridiculous, I mean that letter they send to europe was a masterpiece! But Aliev's threats are to be taken seriously. I even have the impression that their leadership may resort to extreme-crazy actions soon. This may eventually threaten the existence of Armenia! We have to be on our guards (just as always) and expect the worse. One more thing: Sasun I'm not azeri but armenian, I've been on this forum for years. The content of my posts should give you an idea of how I think! A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCA Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 At this point, I think we have overwhelmed our Azeri poster with plenty of postings, but the poster had it coming, as you cannot expect to walk into a beehive and be retarded. But really, here we have an example from Azeri society, maybe average individual. The dismissal, and even partial support of Safarov hints at a doom for Artsakh Armenians if ever Azerbaijan will recover the area. One might compare this to violence against the Serbs in Kosovo after UN occupation. Armenians in the area would simply dissapear. and let us add this murder to a number of incidents outside karabakh war zone of azeri aggression. Anyone remeber the murder of armenian servicemen around the artzvashen enclave? Reason ? None, this was outside NKR war zone...... Levon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 One more thing: Sasun I'm not azeri but armenian, I've been on this forum for years. The content of my posts should give you an idea of how I think! A. I am sorry Aaron for mistaking your nationality. Hope you didn't get offended. This was the first time I read your post, so I couldn't tell how you think. What made me think you were Azeri? 1) you were defending the Azeri people and saying that the government is the culprit (I still contest that line of thought) 2) some Azeris and Turks have the silly habit of posing as Armenians on forums Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidan Sadikhova Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 I'll write my last post on tjis forum and sign out... Some azeris and armenians who discuss these problems on other forums have a signature... День Примирения Будет Моим Личным Праздником If someone didn't understand The Day of Reconsiliation Will Be My Personal Holiday Bye everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 The Day of Reconsiliation Will Be My Personal Holiday Your Posts didn't show that you feel thisway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hytga Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 siktir two faced azverushka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 siktir two faced azverushka I greeted her/him on Feb. 25 with a prayer, Fidan, siken, or whatever the f**k your name is. Speak Arnenian, or in the least English, or, better yet get the "siktir" out of here And now you bid goddbye with another prayer. I hope that none of us actually thought that we could have a dialogue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 I found this in : http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/politics/28.htm..._issue=11473790 Recognition of Karabagh is practically a declaration of war to the Azeri eyes. I guess not much of an "Artsakh Peace Process" is left! Armenia will recognize Karabakh if talks hit dead-end - Kocharian YEREVAN. March 3 (Interfax) - Armenia will de jure recognize the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh if negotiations with Azerbaijan on a settlement of their conflict over the predominantly ethnic Armenian enclave in Azerbaijan reach a deadlock, Armenian President Robert Kocharian told journalists on Thursday evening. "Armenia should be prepared that the talks may reach an impasse, although chances to make progress still remain," he said. "However, if Azerbaijan firmly states that time is working for Azerbaijan and tries to resolve the Karabakh issue by bolstering the army and using force, Armenia will take the following steps: first and foremost, it will de jure recognize the independence of the republic of Nagorno-Karabakh," the president said. The second step would be "a set of agreements and laws that would allow Armenia to ensure the security of the people of Nagorno-Karabakh. I am speaking about signing a wide variety of treaties that would view any attack on Nagorno-Karabakh as an attack on Armenia," Kocharian said. The third step would be the creation of a so-called 'security belt', he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 (edited) Why should the negoatiations give result? The Azeris autorities are dumb and hungry for power, Azerbaijan has more to win(a lot more) than Armenia if the negotiations succeed and regardless of the result of the negotiations. If Azerbaijan loose Karabakh it will only heart the national arrogance while the lost will also meen that the negoatiations gave a result and that the pipline generated oil dollars will flow in Azerbaijan. The situation for Azerbaijan is only a question of national arrogance, they have no real gain over Karabakh other than claiming that they had a victory over Armenia and even if that would mean ruinating the country. I swear that had Armenia been in the same situation than Azerbaijan, I would have supported that Armenia gives aways Karabakh which population would have been majoritary Azeris and that such a situation is preventing the country ot maximize its oil profits. Armenia doesn't have as much to gain right now as Azerbaijan, Azerbaijan wins regardless of if they loose or get Karabakh, in both situations, a stable Azerbaijan will secure investors. It is obvious that morally, ethically there is no question that the just thing to do is to leave Karabakh be, they have tasted what independence mean for more than a decade and will never ever ask less, and the rest of the world knows that. If the Azeris autorities weren't dictatorial and agressive ultra nationalists if Azerbaijan hadn't that oil flowing, this issue would have been already settled. I found this in : http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/politics/28.htm..._issue=11473790 Recognition of Karabagh is practically a declaration of war to the Azeri eyes. I guess not much of an "Artsakh Peace Process" is left! Armenia will recognize Karabakh if talks hit dead-end - Kocharian YEREVAN. March 3 (Interfax) - Armenia will de jure recognize the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh if negotiations with Azerbaijan on a settlement of their conflict over the predominantly ethnic Armenian enclave in Azerbaijan reach a deadlock, Armenian President Robert Kocharian told journalists on Thursday evening. "Armenia should be prepared that the talks may reach an impasse, although chances to make progress still remain," he said. "However, if Azerbaijan firmly states that time is working for Azerbaijan and tries to resolve the Karabakh issue by bolstering the army and using force, Armenia will take the following steps: first and foremost, it will de jure recognize the independence of the republic of Nagorno-Karabakh," the president said. The second step would be "a set of agreements and laws that would allow Armenia to ensure the security of the people of Nagorno-Karabakh. I am speaking about signing a wide variety of treaties that would view any attack on Nagorno-Karabakh as an attack on Armenia," Kocharian said. The third step would be the creation of a so-called 'security belt', he said. Edited March 4, 2006 by QueBeceR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Why should the negoatiations give result? The Azeris autorities are dumb and hungry for power, Azerbaijan has more to win(a lot more) than Armenia if the negotiations succeed and regardless of the result of the negotiations. If Azerbaijan loose Karabakh it will only heart the national arrogance while the lost will also meen that the negoatiations gave a result and that the pipline generated oil dollars will flow in Azerbaijan. The situation for Azerbaijan is only a question of national arrogance, they have no real gain over Karabakh other than claiming that they had a victory over Armenia and even if that would mean ruinating the country. I swear that had Armenia been in the same situation than Azerbaijan, I would have supported that Armenia gives aways Karabakh which population would have been majoritary Azeris and that such a situation is preventing the country ot maximize its oil profits. Armenia doesn't have as much to gain right now as Azerbaijan, Azerbaijan wins regardless of if they loose or get Karabakh, in both situations, a stable Azerbaijan will secure investors. It is obvious that morally, ethically there is no question that the just thing to do is to leave Karabakh be, they have tasted what independence mean for more than a decade and will never ever ask less, and the rest of the world knows that. If the Azeris autorities weren't dictatorial and agressive ultra nationalists if Azerbaijan hadn't that oil flowing, this issue would have been already settled. Why don't you start a meaningfull debate with them? You never know they might listen to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Why don't you start a meaningfull debate with them? You never know they might listen to you. The right of ones to deside of his/her own destiny goes before freedom of speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 The right of ones to deside of his/her own destiny goes before freedom of speech. Say what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 «THE INDEPENDENCE OF KARABAKH WA PARTIALLY JUSTIFIED» http://armtown.com/img/photo/a1p_en_36423.jpg article's photo In the interview to the Moscow newspaper «Moskovski Komsomolec» the first and the last President of the Soviet Union Mikhail Gorbachev has also referred to the Nagorno Karabakh conflict. «Moscow was going to allot one billion rubles for the development of the Nagorno Karabakh the population of which was 180 thousand. Moscow was going to make Baku restore all the dotations, to re-establish relations with Armenia and to give Karabakh the status of an autonomous republic. But at that time the Supreme Council of Armenia announced that Karabakh is an inseparable part of Armenia. What was I supposed to do? Was I to send an army to Armenia? I think the separation of Karabakh from Azerbaijan was in many cases justified, » Mikhail Gorbachev said. Asked the question how a compromise can be reached the USSR President answered that it was possible only in USSR. «Exercising force would not be fruitful. Chechnya is a good example of that». When the journalist told him that nevertheless under his reign armed forces were sent to Tbilisi, Baku and Vilnius, Mikhail Gorbachev corrected that forces were sent only to Baku, “The Baku cases were completely out of control. The Supreme Council and the Central Committee were not operating, a 200-km part of the state border was destroyed, and the local organizations were attacked. I sent Eugenie Primakov and Andrey Girenko there. They reported about the situation created and offered to declare an emergency and send armed forces there. I still think thus we managed to prevent heavier bloodshed”. * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 ARMENIA WILL RECOGNIZE NKR IF TALKS FAIL – ROBERT KOCHARIAN http://armtown.com/img/photo/yer_en_22044.jpg article's photo Despite the failure of the Rambouileet negotiations, there still are chances to reach a result through talks, Armenian President Robert Kocharian said in a televised interview on Wednesday. But if Azerbaijan decides to settle the conflict by using military force, Kocharian said, among other measures, Armenia will do the following: - Armenia will recognize the Nagorno Karabakh Republic - Legally fomalize its responsibility for the security of the Karabakh - Reinforce the security zone around Karabakh - Further reforms in Armenia to ensure effective development of the economy Kocharian also said that the Minsk Group co-chairmen are working to the maximum of their mandate. He also pointed out that the best format for the negotiations would be “between Azerbaijan and Nagorno Karabakh with an active participation of Armenia.” While Armenia is engaged in bilateral talks with Azerbaijan, that country is trying to make an impression that Armenia is aggressor, he said, adding that such arguments are no more taken seriously because everyone knows the core of the conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 (edited) Hi everyone The saga continues and it is now almost certain that 2006 will not see a breakthrough! If anyone of you goes to church sometime soon, it would be a timely idea to light a candle for war not to start! A. Aliev, Kocharian Again Fail To Cut Karabakh Deal By Harry Tamrazian in Bucharest The presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan again failed to reach a framework agreement on Nagorno-Karabakh during intensive negotiations in Bucharest on Sunday and Monday, all but dashing hopes for a speedy resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. The two men made no statements to the media after they wrapped up their second meeting in the Romanian capital that began in the presence American, French and Russian diplomats spearheading the peace process and continued in tête-à-tête. They spoke fore more than three hours in the same format the previous night. Azerbaijani Foreign Minster Elmar Mammadyarov, who accompanied Aliev admitted, that the two sides remain far apart on some key issues. “There is no change in Azerbaijan’s position and disagreements on how to resolve the conflict remain,” he said. Steven Mann, Washington’s top Karabakh negotiator, sought to put a brave face on the apparent fiasco as he spoke to journalists on behalf of the three co-chairs of the OSCE Minsk Group. He said both Aliev-Kocharian meetings took place in a “good atmosphere” but refused to divulge any of their details. “The co-chairs are now going to meet among themselves to discuss the next steps in our work,” he said. Mann also indicated that the mediators believe that the Karabakh conflict can still be resolved this year. “The co-chairs still believe that 2006 is the window to reach an agreement regarding Karabakh,” he said. Asked whether Aliev and Kocharian made any progress towards a peace deal, the U.S. diplomat replied, “I would only say that we have had very, very detailed discussions.” The Armenian and Azerbaijani leaders underscored their lingering disagreements on Karabakh as they addressed a high-level forum of Black Sea nations in Bucharest earlier on Monday. “The people of Nagorno-Karabakh have implemented in practice the right to self-determination,” declared Kocharian. “It was done fully in line with the requirements of international law.” “We believe that there is a need for effective efforts for a full-scale integration of the [Nagorno-Karabakh] Republic into the international community,” he added. “Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity is recognized by everyone and can not be a subject of negotiations,” countered Aliev. The previous Armenian-Azerbaijani summit on Karabakh, held at the Rambouillet castle near Paris in February, likewise ended in failure despite unusually upbeat statements made by the co-chairs in the weeks preceding it. The mediators appeared to regard the Bucharest talks as their last chance to broker a peaceful settlement of the Karabakh dispute in the near future. Senior diplomats from France, Russia and the United States sounded cautiously optimistic about peace prospects as they visited Baku and Yerevan late last month. But Kocharian effectively dampened those expectations on Friday, questioning the Azerbaijani leadership’s commitment to Karabakh peace. Speaking to journalists, he pointed to Aliev’s continuing “militaristic statements.” Azerbaijani officials were quick to hit back. "On the one hand, (Kocharian) agreed to such a meeting, but on the other, he is already anticipating no results,” Aliev’s top foreign policy aide, Novruz Mamedov, said, according to the Associated Press. “I think that Kocharian wants to just protect himself." Edited June 5, 2006 by Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayZenk Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Hi everyone The saga continues and it is now almost certain that 2006 will not see a breakthrough! If anyone of you goes to church sometime soon, it would be a timely idea to light a candle for war not to start! Aaron Artsakh don't want a war but if we get attacked we will defend and after that we will counter-attack!! So, azeris are the ones who should go to mosque and pray very hard to avoid starting a new war with us because if they do then eventually we will destroy their army together with their turanic ambitions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Read this, gives a clear overview of what is going on right now Mediators Have Declassified the Settlement Principles Kocharyan Makes Unprecedented Concessions on Karabakh but Aliyev Demands More http://www.hetq.am/eng/politics/0607-nkr.html A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Read this, gives a clear overview of what is going on right now Mediators Have Declassified the Settlement Principles Kocharyan Makes Unprecedented Concessions on Karabakh but Aliyev Demands More http://www.hetq.am/eng/politics/0607-nkr.html A. According to the parliamentarian, NKR authorities cannot be included in the negotiating process and bear the responsibility. “At this moment Nagorno Karabakh cannot be included in the negotiating process, since Nagorno Karabakh has not been officially included in what was going on, in what preceded the Bucharest meeting and is going on now. And since it has not been officially included in these processes it cannot bear responsibility for what is on the negotiating table. NKR bears official responsibility for the maintenance of the cease-fire regime established by two 1994 agreements and is fulfilling its obligations,” Atanesyan said. i still do not understand the logic behind this... why not? why isn't NKR slowly dragged into the negotiation process? armenia and azerbaijan deciding the fate of another country? what's going to happen if suddenly ROA decided to make huge concessions? how are the people of NKR going to react? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 DECLASSIFIED KARABAKH by Arkady Dubnov Translated by Pavel Pushkin Source: Vremya Novostei, June 29, 2006, p. 5 Agency WPS DEFENSE and SECURITY (Russia) July 3, 2006 Monday BITTER POLEMIC RESTARTED BETWEEN BAKU AND YEREVAN WITH REGARD TO RESOLVING THE NAGORNO-KARABAKH CONFLICT; For three days Baku and Yerevan have been officially continuing the restarted bitter polemic related to resolving the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. An interview of new American co-chair of the Minsk group of the OSCE for Nagorno-Karabakh Matthew Brize (two other co-chairs represent Russia and France) served as a pretext. Brize released this interview after a report about the course of the negotiation process between the presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan released by co-chairs of the Minsk group at a meeting of the permanent council of the OSCE in Vienna on June 22. The American diplomat disclosed some details of the framework agreement proposed by the Minsk group to the parties of the conflict for the first time. For three days, Baku and Yerevan have been officially continuing the restarted bitter polemic related to resolving the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. An interview of new American co-chair of the Minsk group of the OSCE for Nagorno-Karabakh Matthew Brize (two other co-chairs represent Russia and France) served as a pretext. Brize released this interview after a report about the course of the negotiation process between the presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan released by co-chairs of the Minsk group at a meeting of the permanent council of the OSCE in Vienna on June 22. The American diplomat disclosed some details of the framework agreement proposed by the Minsk group to the parties of the conflict for the first time. According to Matthew Brize, Baku and Yerevan are currently "discussing the clauses of the agreement according to which Armenian armed forces should leave the territory of Azerbaijan." This document reflected the issues of deployment of the peacekeeping forces in the conflict zone and international economic aid to Nagorno-Karabakh. In the final stage, it is planned to organize a referendum about the future status of Nagorno-Karabakh. Russian co-chair of the Minsk group of the OSCE Yury Merzlyakov reported yesterday that the statement of his American colleague was coordinated with the other co-chairs and represented their common evaluation of the current stage of negotiations. Yerevan was the first to react to the interview of Brize. The Armenian Foreign Ministry announced that principles of the conflict regulation were disclosed in the interview only "partially" and the interview did not touch on the problem of a corridor between Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh and the interim status of Nagorno-Karabakh before organization of the referendum. Yerevan emphasizes that "for the first time co-chairs of the Minsk group state that the problem of the status of Nagorno-Karabakh can be solved through a referendum." The disputes that exist in the negotiation process do not deal with the referendum and the presidents have already approved this issue. The Armenian Foreign Ministry added, "The disputes deal with the schedule for liquidation of consequences of the armed conflict." Yerevan calls the principles of regulation proposed by the Minsk group "a serious basis for continuation of negotiations with Azerbaijan" and confirms readiness to continue them. Armenia could not do without the familiar notes of belligerence. Azerbaijan was reminded that "regardless of the size of its military budget it will never manage to force the people of Nagorno-Karabakh to give up the right for freedom and independence." The response from Baku followed immediately. The Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry called the statement of Yerevan "a traditional attempt at deliberate distortion of the course of the negotiation process" and "speculations." The Foreign Ministry of Azerbaijan added, "Determination of the status of Nagorno-Karabakh is impossible in circumstances of continuing occupation and ethnic purge and implies liberation of the occupied territories and demilitarization of the entire conflict zone, which in case of international guarantees of security will create conditions for return of the forcefully expelled Azerbaijani population." Azerbaijani Defense Minister Safar Abiyev added fuel to the fire. Yesterday, he announced, "Degree of the combat readiness of the armed forces of Azerbaijan allows liberation of our land by a military way. Only time is needed for this and Armenians are afraid of war." Abiyev accused of the interest in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict some "powerful world powers that wish to retain Azerbaijan in the sphere of their influence." Azerbaijani news agency Day.az quoted Abiyev as saying, "When they see our force they will give up their intention and we will prove this." Very few observers doubt that this hint is addressed to Russia. Neither of the parties of the conflict points at the main stepping stone of the negotiations. According to informed sources close to negotiations, in the first stage Armenia is prepared to let Azerbaijani refugees and administration return to the occupied Kelbadzhar District. Armenia is prepared to make this concession under condition that Baku names an acceptable date for the referendum in Nagorno-Karabakh at least in a few years. However, Baku refuses to do this. The same sources presume that conversations about a possible meeting of Armenian and Azerbaijani presidents in the framework of the G8 summit in St. Petersburg at which both Baku and Yerevan hint are unfounded. They add, "A new meeting of Aliyev and Kocharjan is hardly possible earlier than in autumn." With regard to the unexpected declassification of the course of negotiations, Allen Deletroz, president of the international crisis group, remarked that "intermediaries grew tired of negotiations and took a correct step that would contribute to broad and open national dialog dedicated to the essence of the problem." According to Deletroz, "Henceforth Azerbaijanis and Armenians will be able to form their own opinion about what is on the table of negotiations of there presidents who have until recently had a private but unsuccessful dialog." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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