Armen Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 What does that mean? Men aren't capable of giving love? ......... style_images/master/snapback.png Anoushik, a real atheist cannot possibly believe that love exists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Anoushik, a real atheist cannot possibly believe that love exists style_images/master/snapback.png What is the definition of a "real atheist"? Besides I'm a humanist and I do believe that love exists between two people (or at least I'm hoping since I haven't experienced it myself yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 anoushik, don't let this old fa... people disappoint you. style_images/master/snapback.png Good there is still hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 What is the definition of a "real atheist"? Besides I'm a humanist and I do believe that love exists between two people (or at least I'm hoping since I haven't experienced it myself yet). style_images/master/snapback.png A real atheist is someone not like you Anoushik How come you believe in love but you don't believe in God? Is love better than God? I have experienced it I can say confidently it always brings a lot of pain. Sometimes it can be realy dangerous and mess up your life. A real atheist would conclude that people who love are mentally challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 If by a real atheist you mean a materialist, then no, I'm not a real atheist But I don't believe in God's existence therefore I think I'm an atheist. It's not like I've fallen in love with that word and want to be identified as such Armen, I don't believe in love because I think it's better than God. I believe in love because I think it's real. And God is not. If God existed I'm sure He would be good but He doesn't. Why compare God with the existence of love within humanity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 A real atheist is someone not like you Anoushik How come you believe in love but you don't believe in God? Is love better than God? I have experienced it I can say confidently it always brings a lot of pain. Sometimes it can be realy dangerous and mess up your life. A real atheist would conclude that people who love are mentally challenged. style_images/master/snapback.png Are you saying atheists are incapable of love? Just because they defer in there vision of what’s best for humanity and for this world? And how do you explain Bush who believes in God yet is a mass murderer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Don't play with words Anoushik An atheist is an atheist. You are clearly not one Let's not go off topic. OK then, why do you think some man has too give you love in that sense (you surely know what I mean)? What is his utility? He gets it back in the same amount and manner? Well, that is a simple exchange of goods Don't get too romantic with it. It is just chemical stuff that all humans need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Are you saying atheists are incapable of love? Just because they defer in there vision of what’s best for humanity and for this world? And how do you explain Bush who believes in God yet is a mass murderer? style_images/master/snapback.png No, I am saying that a lot of people (majority) who say they are atheists are not atheists. Bush clearly does not believe in God. He just follows the tradition and dogmas of Protestant Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Ah ha! You want me to say it Fine! OK, I think as human beings we are more than chemicals and need more than chemicals. We are spiritual beings Oh, what the heck, I'm a romantic, I admit But a romantic who doesn't believe in God because logically God doesn't exist. There is just too much evil in this world for a God to exist. See? You're making me go off topic (I just want to point out that there is nothing written here that I haven't said before.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 yev hisus yekav yev asats` "sireq mimiants, qanzi sern e, vor kprki ashxarh@. sirir merdzavorit, bayts "chsires" merdzavorit knoj@. dranits lav hoter chi galis". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 yev hisus yekav yev asats` "sireq mimiants, qanzi sern e, vor kprki ashxarh@. sirir merdzavorit, bayts "chsires" merdzavorit knoj@. dranits lav hoter chi galis". style_images/master/snapback.png Whoever came up with Jesus's character knew that humanity needs love to have hope and to not despair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Whoever came up with Jesus's character knew that humanity needs love to have hope and to not despair. style_images/master/snapback.png It was God Anoushik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 I meant whatever human person, or group of people, the founders of the church, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 An atheist is a pragmatist most often. There is your answer to the bickering about love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 I don't believe in true love, but I hope it exists. Does that make me an agnostic or what? Those who believe in true love unknowingly accept that there is such a thing as circumstance of fate or "divine intervention". How about that Anoushik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 It was God Anoushik style_images/master/snapback.png Anoushik, listen to Armen, he knows what he is talking about Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Whoever came up with Jesus's character knew that humanity needs love to have hope and to not despair. style_images/master/snapback.png It was God Anoushik style_images/master/snapback.png Anoushik, listen to Armen, he knows what he is talking about Seriously. style_images/master/snapback.png chisht en asum btw, votkes barov lini dzer ankyunin Anileve , bayts yes shat chem xosa, vaxenumem hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Anoushik, listen to Armen, he knows what he is talking about Seriously. style_images/master/snapback.png How does he know? How do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 How does he know? How do you know? style_images/master/snapback.png Anoushik jan, when Sasun tells you to listen to someone, listen to what Sasun says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 An atheist is a pragmatist most often. There is your answer to the bickering about love. style_images/master/snapback.png Experience showed me this is untrue, it may be true in your cases, but the majority of atheists I have frequented are not pragmatists. I would rather say, agnostics are most often pragmatists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Experience showed me this is untrue, it may be true in your cases, but the majority of atheists I have frequented are not pragmatists. I would rather say, agnostics are most often pragmatists. style_images/master/snapback.png Amen to that brother! Agnosticism is the thinking man's religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 How does he know? He just knows. How do you know? style_images/master/snapback.png I just know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Amen to that brother! Agnosticism is the thinking man's religion. style_images/master/snapback.png Agnosticism and multiversism are not religions, atheism is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Agnosticism and multiversism are not religions, atheism is. style_images/master/snapback.png All above are variations of feeling cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 All above are variations of feeling cool style_images/master/snapback.png You are a wise man I was looking for a proper word for such things but could not find. "Feeling cool" describes it the best. Sort of a "superior" way of competing with "stupid" religions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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