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Tumanyan just wants to say that it is not right to "nshanel Maroin ev tal choban Garoiin."

Doesn't it sound as if these elections were held in Armenia? Perhpas it doesn't even matter, since there seem as the differences between Azerbaidjan and Armenia have been erased? Armenia has finally becmoe equal to Azerbaidjan. It is good also for the international observers - much work can be saved when drafting the report on Azerbaidjani elections.

ADG, I can understand that you have an accumulated protest to express. Many members of this forum have turned it into a dumping destination for their frustration. So you can use that "privilege," too. But why to do it in such vulgar manner and based on superficial pseudo-categories? Also, why don’t you just work on yourself, get proper education, get a proper job, build a proper future for yourself, before you come forward to save the “race?”

I take it as lack of merit when speaking of Armenian Culture and Heritage.

Does this answer the question?

For the sake of clarity, could someone define what Armenian Culture and Heritage mean? Could one give a dense half a page description?

I finally got it. We must prevail so that Turks don't laugh at us. I finally got motivated for the continuing existence of the Armenian nation.

Harut, Maybe it is time for you to get married?

I don't think so. The correct way of saying it would be ÈáõëÇÝÝ Çç³í ë³ñÇ Ñ»ï¨Á:

Why? You gave correct explanations.

I also have to add that in both sentences, your usage of the pronouns is inaccurate. You should not say "im kin@ shat sirum e nra dashnamur@" if you want to express the thought which is expressed in English below the Armenian version. You should say "im kin@ shat sirum e ir dashnamur@." Otherwise, it makes an impression that "your wife likes someone else's piano." In the second case, while you would hear such expression a lot, it is not proper Armenian. You should say "Gnatsel enk nra het," or "Gnatsel enk ir het." In general, it would be advisable to study the differences between the pronouns "sa, da, na."

"Ira" is not literary Armenian. It is perhaps derived from the pronoun "ir," which is a perfectly fine pronoun. "Ira" is just a bastardization of this pronoun. However, it is quite common in everyday conversations.

I can perhaps bring an example of a blind kid in Armenia, who has lost his sight (and I think some of his limbs) as the result of playing with an unexploded shell near the border of Armenia and Azerbaidjan, who is being kicked out from home by his father, who doesn't want to give him proper care. Recently, an Armenian-American Foundation has approached me asking if I would know any lawyers in Armenia, who could stand up for the kid and litigate his father.

Arpa, Let me make another attempt disagreeing on the subject, reiterating again that it has been long time, and few chins have grown since… I don’t see this issue in the context of “kravorakan.” I see it in the context of “serakan ev trakan holovner.” A demonstrating example may be the following, for example: Would one say "Arpaii hamar" or "Arpaiin hamar" (let’s stick to Eastern Armenian.) In the first case, which would be the example of “serakan holov,” it would sound accurate. In the case of the second version, “trakan holov,” it would sound very weird. Assuming that one would accept this argument/example in the case of noun(s) (in this case the noun Arpa), why would one proceed differently in the case of personal pronouns – “yes, im, indz?” The "kravorakan" argument would have implied that "gortsoghutiune hangum e ararkaiin," i.e. the action is being directed at the [pro]noun (sorry for the clumsy translation.) I don’t see any such context in the issue which has been raised.

I would like to commend Armat for the expression of a yet another sober thought. The concept of unity outside few basic fundamentals is ridiculous and harmful - the less such tenets the more chances of meaningful unity. People, nations and societies are not a herd of cows to unite and march under the chiming sound of a monotonic absurdity broadcasting and perpetuating a heavy burden of failed history. Mature nations manifest unity around the principles of national sovereignty, national security paradigms, democracy and constitution - at least in our days. Outside these few principles (perhaps one may add a couple of more), any healthy society evolves according to the principle of democratic or some other form of meaningful pluralism, which even in the context of dialectic theories of 19-20th centuries is the prerequisite for evolution. In the case of Armenians, the “unity” is one of the most overused clichés lacking serious merit. A simple sociological reflection may unveil the existence of any numbers of “Armenian nations” on the landscape, each of them allegedly manifesting the “real Armenians.” The only thing uniting them is perhaps the memory of a common enemy. Perhaps it comes from the implicit recognition (and the lack of courage to recognize it explicitly) that throughout history Armenians have failed to form a nation, which has become a complex of a kind. Thus the repeated drumbeats of unity…

While both forms are commonly used in colloquial Armenian, the proper way of saying it (at least in literary Eastern Armenian) is "im hamar." “Im hamar” corresponds to the Armenian “Serakan Holov,” which it should. “Indz hamar” has elements of “Trakan holov,” I think, which is not proper in this case. It can be easily checked when looking at the “Andznakan deranunneri holovume” topic. On the other hand, it was another life I have studied these things. Significant time has passed since…

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Sip, High-tech of pharmaceutical research is primarily done outside academia - in corporate environment. For example, academia was perhaps a decade behind Hughes Aircraft, Lockheed, IBM, Microsoft, Bell Labs, Pfizer, etc. If there were some endeavors in computer science departments in mid 90s, anything that at least on the level of perceptions or expectations lead to commercial outcome, was immediately “incorporated” at a point of “no-return” back to academia.

From what I understand, Damadian owns the patent on the relevant technology. One can guess that throughout his entrepreneurial endeavors he has made a pretty good chunk of money. Anyone who knows how the academia functions would know that it never forgives another academician making money as the result of his/her academic research. It is an old and basic human trait – not that commendable. One can also conjecture that Damadian has gotten what he wanted.

Gyumri and Kumairy are the same word - just pronunciation difference. It was stupid to name the city its current name. This city was established by the Russian Empress Alexandra and it would have been proper to return her name to the city.

Another one: http://home.media.am/german_avakian/

I just figured that my last post may be misinterpreted due to the ambiguity of my comment. I didn't mean to say that what Khachatryan has said was pathetic. Quite the opposite.

I was walking near a music-score store on the West 56th street in NY, right across the Carnegie Hall, tonight. On the stand I saw a large picture of Khachatryan and several of his scores. There was also a quotation from him, which approximately sounded like this: “No matter how I waver, I always find myself being Armenian, a European Armenian – not an Asian Armenian,….” Didn’t memorize the rest. Perhaps this quote may add something to the recent pathetic discussions of Hye Forum.

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If I am not misteken, Roman Empire or the Georgians.