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Ok FYI, you are talking about "discrete" and "continuous" with countable and non-countable. That is not an issue here as we both are talking about the continuous domain it seems (in your words, non-countable).

Gevo, what are you trying to accomplish here? Are you going to argue next that 2+2=5 for very large values of 2? If you think I am stupid, just look here (so there is your "someone else" if you must have one). It is spelled out for you nice and big. And what is this "explain to me without using limits"? Why not limits? What's so scary about the concept of a limit?

For the (at least) third time:

You finally discovered that inf/inf doesn't work? I posted the link ... you posted the 7 indeterminates yourself.

Gevo, how can infinity be countable? Are you talking about discrete and continuous?

How does inf+1 = inf + 2 suggest 1=2 if you are not doing inf-inf=0? STOP DOING inf-inf. STOP IT RIGHT NOW

OH geez ... ok I'll spell it out for you: You posted: Going from "So to Then" is doing Inf-Inf=0. WRONG. Going from the "Then to So" step is doing Inf-Inf=0. WRONG. 1/inf = 0. It is NOT indeterminate.

GEVO, for the last time: (Inf - Inf) is indeterminate. You cannot subtract infinity from infinity and get 0. That is why the "examples" in your posted text are stupid, not to mention the "rules". Actually, that entire text is rediculous unless it is taken out of context. I have no idea what it is trying to say as it is saying some very wrong things. I am not going to waste my time on this. I highly suggest you not waste your time on crap like that and pickup a good book ... basic algebra or something from school. http://armenians.com/forum/style_images/1/icon8.gif

Gevo, what do you get when you multiply -5 * 5 ? I hope you get -25. If so, why minus? You seem to have trouble with some fundamentals of math so let's clear those up before moving on to infinity.

Guys I changed some of the larger pics to links as they would just kill anyone on dialup. Hope you don't mind. I would say as a general rule of thumb, pics over 50K should be linked.

Everyone is saying the SAME THING. By the way gevo, THIS will explain all the 7 forms of indeterminate that Domino was talking about. As you see, infinity - infinity is one of them ... but addition, multiplication, etc are NOT indeterminate. I have to say among all those, 1^inf has always given me trouble

ONCE AGAIN: Yes you can add inf ... it is still inf. inf + -inf = inf - inf ... which is UNDEFINED (read my previous post) and Domino's (x-x) post in the long mathematics thread. inf * (-inf) is -infinity inf + 1 is infinity Are we ready to put this to rest? What is so complicated about the concept of infinity as in something that grows without bound?

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Gevo, do you like to make up mathematics as you go along? You can't subtract infinity from infinity but adding, multiplying with positive real number, raising it to positive real power, dividing it with positive real number etc etc ... they all still equal infinity.

Yes ... that is not "indeterminate" as Domino would call it. Inf + Inf = Inf. So that is not a contradiction. Using the proof above, you can show N(A)=N(B), and N(A)=N(C) and N(C)=N(B) and N(A)=N(B)=N(C)=infinity

Hey look!!! Our own Azat and Sev-Mard!!! I don't know though ... getting together to drink beer sounds rather redneckish. I would definitely go if it were Armo-buffet night though

Oh yah ... love at first yell.

You guys seen that new Fedex commercial (I think it's fedex) ... nerdy looking guy first day at work sitting behind a desk. Big black lady telling him what he has to do. She says "You are in charge of shipping these ... it's really easy ... just use the web" (or something like that). Guy looks at her and says "Shipping? But I am an MBA" And the lady says: "Oh, in that case I'll just show it to ya".

Guys I have a big ass deadline at 5pm and you are really tempting me here to not work! Shame on ALL of you

You still didn't say who came up with it. Unless you want to take credit for it! Edit: Nevermind, just read your post.

Not necessarily. So here's how the proof goes ... in order to show that both have the same number of points, all we need to come up with is a 1 to 1 mapping from any point you pick on one line to a unique point on the other line. To do this, we have: Line 1: __________________ / a / Line 2: __/______ / b / `p I will pick a reference point p. For any point 'a' you pick on line 1, I will just draw the line connecting a to p. This will result a unique point b on line 2. Note that the order in which we pick points from the line (either from the shorter one or from the longer one) is arbitrary so this does in fact create a 1 to 1 mapping between any point on line x to any point on line y and vice versa. The proof relies on some fundamental postulates but otherwise, it shows how both those lines have the same number of points!

Actually I am enjoying playing with my fingers

If that's true, can I step out of the corner now?

Wow Pepperdine has a good management program? Sev have you ever been to Pepperdine? If not, gots check it out dude (Malibu)!!!