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The fact that Lieberman is still the Foreign Minister shows Netanyahu puts own interests ahead of the country’s Reminder: Netanyahu is responsible for Lieberman Saturday, September 10 2011|Yossi Gurvitz http://972mag.com/reminder-netanyahu-is-responsible-for-liberman/ The most urgent political demand in Israel is the removal of Avigdor Lieberman from his position as foreign minister. Not the most original insight, I know, but it has to be said again. Two days ago, Lieberman leaked his new plan for retaliation against Turkey, which he claimed was the brainchild of senior Foreign Office officials. The plan included promoting information about the Armenian genocide, and military support of the PKK, a Kurdish militia which carried terror attacks against Turkish civilians (as well as military targets), and is considered a terror organization by the US and the European Union. What can I say? Pure genius. The idea of fighting Turkish denial of the Armenian genocide is enough to make you vomit. I doubt there is any country in the world, Turkey aside, who did so much to deny it as Israel did. Israel’s Turkish interest led to 30 years of official denial. When former Education Minister Yossi Sarid dared to speak the verboten words, he was attacked by the security apparatus. When an Israeli Armenian was chosen to light one of the flares at the Independence Day ceremony, some 15 years back, she was under tremendous pressure not to mention the events early Hebrew journalist Itamar Ben Avi published, which Ambassador Morgenthau tried to prevent, which Franz Werfel immortalized and which gave Raphael Lemkin the concept of genocide. If to deny a holocaust is to be a partner in it, Israel is Turkey’s main accomplice. The rapid change in Israel’s position is particularly repellent: Suddenly, it reverses course and adopts the historical truth – for its own purposes, of course, and after it made every effort to deny it and made the Jewish-American establishment do the same. One can imagine a new regime in Ankara, a more friendly one, may make Israel speedily change its position on the events of 1915-1916. George Bernard Shaw said all that needs to be said about such behavior; Israel is merely bargaining for a better price. The suggestion that Israel supply the PKK with arms is too delusional to debate seriously. Just thinking of our agents getting caught red-handed delivering explosives meant to blow up Turks, a casus belli against a NATO nation, is enough to make you shiver. What does it say about a country, whose foreign minister comes up with such suggestions? I guess we should consider ourselves lucky Lieberman didn’t publicly advocate bombing Ankara. FO officials angrily denied (Hebrew) that they made such suggestions. According to them, and they seem far more believable than Lieberman, they suggested ways to put out the flames. Generally, I think that officials who attack their elected ministers ought to resign, but Lieberman managed to bring about an hitherto unimaginable position: Officials having to defend themselves from being libeled by their minister. Lieberman, and this is not much of a secret, does not really act as a foreign minister. He skips important meetings – for instance, he wasn’t present in the urgent meeting called by Netanyahu after the Turks sent the Israeli ambassador home. And he spends much of his time in his homeland, Moldavia, or in Belarus. Well, if he misses home so much, shouldn’t he relieve himself of the burdensome offices he took upon himself? The problem, however, is not Lieberman. Or, more precisely, not just Lieberman. The real problem is the prime minister, who does not rein him in. Netanyahu does not dare to treat Lieberman as he treats his Likud rival Silvan Shalom, who may have been a caricature of a foreign minister, but, although he was certainly useless, caused little if any damage. The reason is, of course, is Shalom can’t bring Netanyahu’s government down, while Lieberman can. The best Netanyahu can do is say he does not support Lieberman’s policy. Which is to say, Netanyahu is selling Israel’s long-term interests for his personal survival in power. The responsibility for Lieberman’s behavior lies with the man who appointed him and who can fire him at any time, but refrains from doing so for his own selfish reasons. Not, again, that this is a new insight; but people ought to be reminded of it from time to time.

http://news.am/eng/news/73363.html Pope Benedict XV’s letter to Ottoman Sultan Mehmed V on the Armenian Genocide September 08, 2011 Armenian News-NEWS.am presents below excerpts from Pope Benedict XV’s letter dated September 10, 1915 to Ottoman Sultan Mehmed V on the Armenian Genocide. In the letter, which is published in the French website Imprescriptible, the Pope condemns the Armenian Genocide and urges the Sultan to put an end to suffering of the Armenians. “At this time, when the powerful empire of Your Excellency is engaged in a great battle with the powerful nations of Europe, the pain caused by the horrors tortures our hearts, and, also, the echo of the lament of an entire people reaches us. Those people are being subjected to indescribable suffering in the vast Ottoman territory. The Armenian people have already seen how the majority of their children were sent for punishment. We now learn that the entire population of villages and towns must abandon their homes, in order to reach—with unspeakable difficulties and torture—distant places where poverty and hunger will be added to their psychological suffering. We believe these unlawful deeds are carried out against the will of your government. We therefore petition to you with confidence, Your Excellency, and urge you to manifest goodness and conscience, and to intervene for the benefit of a people who, even with the power of their faith, are compelled to remain loyal to your country. But Your Excellency, do not allow the innocent to be punished, and see to it that even those who have gone astray may take advantage of your sovereign generosity. Speak your powerful and inspiring words of peace and forgiveness, and, being assured that they no longer will suffer from violence and persecution, the Armenian people would bless the august name of their guarantor.”

Lettre du Pape Benoist XV au Sultan Mahomet V http://www.imprescriptible.fr/citations/institutions#Benedictus%20XV Alors même que la douleur causée par les horreurs de la lutte épouvantable, dans laquelle le puissant Empire de Votre Majesté est entraîné avec les grandes Nations de l'Europe, nous déchire le cœur, l'écho, tout aussi douloureux, des gémissements de tout un peuple nous parvient également. Ce peuple dans les vastes territoires ottomans est soumis à des souffrances indescriptibles. La Nation Arménienne a déjà vu un grand nombre, un très grand nombre, de ses fils envoyés au supplice, parmi lesquels de nombreux ecclésiastiques et même quelques évêques, emprisonnés ou exilés. Maintenant, nous apprenons que des populations entières de villages et de villes sont obligées d'abandonner leurs maisons pour s'en aller, au prix d'indicibles privations et de souffrances, vers des lieux lointains de concentration dans lesquels, en plus des angoisses morales, ils doivent subir les privations de la misère la plus affreuse et même les tortures de la faim. Nous pensons, Sire, que ces excès se produisent contre la volonté du Gouvernement de Votre Majesté. C'est donc avec confiance que nous nous adressons à Votre Majesté et que nous l'exhortons ardemment, dans sa générosité magnanime, à avoir pitié et à intervenir en faveur d'un peuple qui, du fait même de sa religion, est poussé à demeurer fidèle, nationalement, à la Personne de Votre Majesté. Si parmi les Arméniens il se trouve des traîtres ou des coupables d'autres délits, qu'ils soient légalement jugés et punis. Mais ne permettez pas, Majesté, dans votre sentiment de justice très élevé, que des innocents soient entraînés dans la punition et faites que même les dévoyés bénéficient de Votre Souveraine Clémence. Adressez Votre parole de paix et de pardon, inspirée et puissante, et la Nation Arménienne, assurée de ne plus avoir à subir de violences et de représailles bénira l'auguste nom de son Protecteur. Dans ce doux espoir, nous prions Votre Majesté de bien vouloir accepter nos vœux les meilleurs, que nous formulons pour votre prospérité et pour le bonheur de vos peuples. Vatican, 10 septembre 1915, Benedictus XV

PROFITING FROM THE HOLOCAUST OF THE OTHERS: or... ISRAEL WILL PROMOTE INTERNATIONAL RECOGNITION OF THE ARMENIAN HOLOCAUST Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has decided to adopt a series of harsh measures in response to Turkey’s latest anti-Israeli moves, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Friday. Following Thursday’s meeting, officials assessed that Turkey is not interested in an Israeli apology at this time and prefers to exploit the dispute with Jerusalem in order to promote Ankara’s status in the Muslim world. Lieberman therefore decided there was no point in seeking creative formulas for apologizing, instead choosing to focus Israel’s efforts on punishing Turkey. The Foreign Ministry has now decided to proceed with the formulation of a diplomatic and security "toolbox" to be used against the Turks. The first move would be to issue a travel warning urging all Israeli military veterans to refrain from traveling to Turkey. The advisory will be especially harsh as it will also urge Israelis to refrain from boarding connections in Turkey. Another planned Israeli move is the facilitation of cooperation with Turkey’s historic rivals, the Armenians. During Lieberman’s visit to the United States this month, the foreign minister is expected to meet with leaders of the Armenian lobby and propose anti-Turkish cooperation in Congress. The implication of this move could be Israeli assistance in promoting international recognition of the Armenian holocaust, a measure that would gravely harm Turkey. Israel may also back Armenia in its dispute vis-à-vis Turkey over control of Mount Ararat. Lieberman is also planning to set meetings with the heads of Kurdish rebel group PKK in Europe in order to "cooperate with them and boost them in every possible area." In these meetings, the Kurds may ask Israel for military aid in the form of training and arms supplies, a move that would constitute a major anti-Turkish position should it materialize. However, the violent clashes between Turkey and the Kurds only constitute one reason prompting accusations that Ankara is violating human rights. Hence, another means in Lieberman’s "toolbox" vis-à-vis Erdogan is a diplomatic campaign where Israeli missions worldwide will be instructed to join the fight and report illegal Turkish moves against minorities. The tough response formulated by Lieberman stems, among other things, from the foreign minister’s desire to make it clear to Erdogan that his anti-Israeli moves are not a "one-way street." Officials in Jerusalem also noted that Turkey’s global status at this time is not promising as it is, adding that Ankara is embroiled in tensions vis-à-vis NATO and Greece, while Erdogan’s relations with Syria and Iran are also not favorable. "We’ll exact a price from Erdogan that will prove to him that messing with Israel doesn’t pay off," Lieberman said. "Turkey better treat us with respect and common decency."

WikiLeaks: Ottoman Archives ‘Purged’ to Hide Genocide A Turkish Professor told US Consul General in Istanbul that there were efforts to “purge” the Ottoman Archives of incriminating documents on the Armenian Genocide, according to a cable recently released by the whistleblower site WikiLeaks. In a cable dated July 12, 2004, Sabanci University professor Halil Berktay told then US Consul General to Istanbul David Arnett that “there were two serious efforts to “purge” the archives of any incriminating documents on the Armenian question.” “The first” Berktay explained, “took place in 1918, presumably before the Allied forces occupied Istanbul. Berktay and others point to testimony in the 1919 Turkish Military Tribunals indicating that important documents had been ‘stolen’ from the archives.” “Berktay believes a second purge was executed in conjunction with Ozal’s efforts to open the archives by a group of retired diplomats and generals led by former Ambassador Muharrem Nuri Birgi (Note: Nuri Birgi was previously Ambassador to London and NATO and Secretary General of the MFA),” Arnett wrote in the cable. “Berktay claims that at the time he was combing the archives, Nuri Birgi met regularly with a mutual friend and at one point, referring to the Armenians, ruefully confessed that ‘We really slaughtered them,’” the cable read. “Tony Greenwood, the Director of the American Research Institute in Turkey, told poloff separately that when he was working in the Archives during that same period it was well known that a group of retired military officers had privileged access and spent months going through archival documents. Another Turkish scholar who has researched Armenian issues claims that the ongoing cataloging process is used to purge the archives,” said Arnett in the cable.

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ISRAELI DIPLOMATS: IN THE MATTER OF SUPPORTING ARMENIA TO LOBBY RECOGNITION OF ARMENIAN GENOCIDE ISRAEL HAS ALWAYS BEEN ADHERED TO THE SAME POSITION LIKE THE USA arminfo Sunday, September 11, After the information about Israel's intention to support Armenians in their confrontation with Turks, Haaretz quoting top-rank employees of Israeli Foreign Ministry, disowned the information and called it a bluff of Foreign minister of Israel Avigdor Lieberman. "As for the matter of "assisting Armenia to lobby recognition of Armenian genocide", Israel has been always adhered to the same position like the USA: the issue should be resolved by Turkish and Armenian historians, but not politicians of other countries. Israel even does not have a diplomatic representation in Armenia. And who said that at present Armenians want to ague with Turkey and take Israel's support for that?", - an Israeli diplomat wondered. The diplomats told Haaretz journalists, that on Thursday, during the meeting in the Foreign Ministry, which as Liberman said, prepared bellicose recommendations on the "Turkish issue", absolutely different ideas sounded, and as a result, the participants in the meeting came to the conclusion that the scandal with Turkey should not be worsened but extinguished. "Various ideas were put forward, but the sense of all the ideas was that specialists of Foreign Ministry recommend Liberman to avoid the steps which will lead to the new escalation in the relations with Turkey", - the diplomat said.

HUMAN SIDE OF THE RAGING BULL by Nick Walshaw Sunday Telegraph (Australia) September 11, 2011 Sunday 1 - State Edition Vic Darchinyan is a proud Aussie, but Nick Walshaw goes on a journey to Armenia and finds out why he's the true people's champion THERE'S no gold on the old man, which is why he waits. Quietly sipping vodka from a small glass, while on the other side of this heaving Armenian restaurant, Vic Darchinyan is continually swamped by European millionaires - they are all black Armani and blinding jewellery. In one case, an entire top row of gold teeth. And loudly, they begin toasting their hero. Politicians and police. Businessmen and restaurateurs. Even Tata Simonyan, the Armenian pop star whose record sales are measured by the million, is in the house. Properly explaining the wealth now surrounding this table requires a quick trip across town. Less than 20 minutes to that enormous, white mansion, which, for reasons best known to the owner, has been purpose-built to mirror the Las Vegas institution known as Caesars Palace Casino. That's right, one of these Armenian boxing fans has created a home of all classic Roman architecture and rearing stallion statues. Extravagance right down to the gold-rimmed tumblers inside his cupboard. Yet tonight, even Caesar is only one of a crowd. He is patiently waiting his turn among these men in their diamond Rolexes and Clive Christian cologne. Glock pistols are on more than one hip. Cigars, too, are being lit by the Russian billionaire whose own lavish home, neighbouring that of Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, boasts the ultimate accessory for any Moscow winter - a mechanical sun. Which is why the old man waits in the distance and understands how every Armenian worth his chest hair will be chasing an audience with this 54kg fighter. A bantamweight who hasn't just defended his IBO world title in the country's first professional boxing event, but afterwards climbed barechested and bloodied into the stands to dance with Armenian president Serzh Sargsyan. Darchinyan, you see, is the undisputed superstar here in this country of his birth. He is a national hero whose dressing room is guarded by armed militia. Whose walkouts are shadowed by secret service. Who right now cheers as grown men skoll $1500 cognac, the type once favoured by no less than Winston Churchill, straight from the bottle. Honestly, when was the last time you saw a boxer boast the Mercedes logo on his trunks? Or have parliamentarians jostle for signatures? And if you reckon Anthony Mundine can pull a crowd Down Under, consider that tonight in a country of more than 3 million people, 90 per cent of all television sets have been tuned into Darchinyan's 12 rounds against South Africa's Evans Mbamba. "And because there's no professional boxing association, they don't even have real commentators," laughs close friend and manager Elias Nassar. "It's just a couple of locals yelling 'Bravo Vic, Bravo' every time he punches. "I always thought the way fight fans treated him throughout America was huge. But here in Armenia . . . they've even written songs about him." And so less than 15 minutes later, an ageing crooner, all sharp threads and jet black hair, takes to the stage with his band; launching immediately into a rockin' Armenian classic, where the only words discernible to this hack are the repeated cries of Daaaar-chin-yaaaaaarn. "Basically, they're talking about climbing Mt Ararat," smiles Olga Darchinyan, who like her husband speaks Armenian, Russian and English. "They're explaining how Vic can do anything. How the whole country is behind him." Over and over tonight it continues this way. Armenians singing his name. Toasting his triumphs. Enamoured by this man whose fists are so internationally acclaimed that NBA star LeBron James once asked to play a few hands of poker "alongside my favourite fighter" in Las Vegas. Yet amid all the chaos and cognac, all the toasting and Tata hits, there is one inescapable fact that catches you . . . Vakhtang Darchinyan is a proud Aussie. You first noticed it a few hours earlier, when, in his dressing room only minutes out from the historic bout with Mbamba, Darchinyan desperately searched for that Australian flag he always carries to the ring. At first, no flag could be found. Anywhere. It led someone within the camp to quietly suggest that with Armenians having paid up to $4000 for this homecoming, maybe it wasn't the best arena for flying a Southern Cross anyway. At which the boxer stopped, lifted his head, then replied: "Brother, if that flag doesn't go to the ring, I don't go into the ring." Indeed, in Darchinyan you have a man who dedicated his Yhonny Perez fight, in part, to the Anzacs. Someone, who despite being given more than $1 million in prime Yerevan real estate by the government, prefers to continue paying off his Concord home. Who right now has paused celebrations to demand Frank Hadley, Gary Dean and the rest of the Australian Boxing Commission be brought immediately to the Cherry Blossom restaurant so they, too, can eat from these 20 tables covered in breads, cold meat and unfinishable piles of barbecue. This is important for the Super Flyweight of the Decade. Speaking later with Nassar, you learn that Darchinyan demanded that more than $100,000 be spent on flights, accommodation and transfers for these seven Australian officials he now seeks out. A fair effort when you consider that for a hundred bucks he could have brought the entire Georgian Boxing Commission across the border by taxi. "But Vic's Australian," Nassar says. "So is every member of this team. Yes, we have backgrounds in Armenia, Lebanon, Greece, but when we travel the world, it's done as a group of proud Aussies." And still Darchinyan knows that back home in Australia there will always be those who can't quite accept him. Those who point to the Armenian colours topping his trunks, to those unmistakable European looks and rough, broken English as some kind of proof the fighter is somehow less Australian than the rest of us. Hell, even Ring magazine lists him as Armenian. So why? Why tonight has Darchinyan been so determined to bring an Australian flavour to proceedings; he even insisted on walking out to that unmistakable boom of our leading ring announcer, Mark Warren? "Australia's my country," the fighter says simply, his confused look making you want to immediately re-phrase the question. "It is where my son was born. Where I became boxing champion of the world. Yes, I grew up in Armenia. But Australia . . . it's where I choose to live." And please believe us when we say Darchinyan has had offers to live everywhere. Which is also why he shelled out $1 million to make this latest fight. Why he spent three months so glued to his mobile during preparations, it would eventually hamper the way he fought inside Karen Demirchyan Sports Complex. "But just as Australians are proud of me, so the people of Armenia are proud," Darchinyan continues. "Even when I moved to Australia after the Sydney Olympics, they're still proud. That's why I have this fight here . . . I never want Armenians to think I've forgotten them." It's a loyalty that exists in everything Darchinyan does. Like the fact he flew Angelo Hyder, his Australian trainer, halfway around the world for this fight, only to have Vazgen Badalyan, his original trainer and now chief of police, employed as lead cornerman. Or that top American promoter Gary Shaw, after 13 years in undoubtedly the most cut-throat sporting business on the planet, says Darchinyan is the only fighter he represents without a contract. "Can't even remember when it ran out," the brash New Yorker laughs. For those not well acquainted with the fight game, Shaw is something of a big deal. He is a millionaire who has overseen the careers of countless world champions, including Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, even Manny Pacquiao. And yet still there is only one boxer with whom he eats breakfast on fight day. "But you have to understand how loyal this guy is," Shaw says over a few beers on fight eve. "Say a brawl breaks out in this bar right now and, of all the fighters I've ever represented, I can call only one to help me out . . . man, it's Vic Darchinyan every time." Loyalty, humility, respect. These are the three words on which Darchinyan has built his empire . . . combined, of course, with a hard left that landed so heavily on Mbamba in the seventh round that we're fairly sure hundreds of neighbouring Turks were outside in their pyjamas trying to work out where the bloody noise was coming from. There is also an unbreakable hunger, a desire in Darchinyan that sees him called Batoon, a Lebanese word for concrete, by the men that are more family than fight team. "If you tell Vic he cannot lift a tree from its roots," smiles hulking strength coach J Fares, "he will go lift a tree from its roots." Indeed, when Victor Burgos made a throat-slitting gesture at the Australian before their 2007 bout, Darchinyan promised to send the disrespectful Mexican to a hospital ward. And he did. He beat Burgos so badly over 12 rounds that the flyweight would suffer three heart failures between ringside and hospital and spend three months in a coma. "Which left Vic in a terrible way," Hyder recalls. "He was frantic. Kept praying until, finally, the kid recovered. Many people don't know that." While he may be the southpaw, who, according to Shaw, "revived the fight game for little men", Darchinyan also remains the humble son of a petrol station attendant. He's the same fella who never enters a room without first opening the door for every member of his crew. "Does it all the time," Fares confirms of the ritual. "Even when we went to meet the Armenian President, Vic made sure I entered first." IT'S why the old man with no gold has waited so long to speak with him. Why now, around 4am, with the businessmen having moved to a downstairs bar, he finally approaches and, in Armenian, asks not only to toast the champ, but that someone may translate for the small crew of Aussies gathered around him. For this is a story he wants everyone to know. A yarn taking place only a few years back when his daughter, still only a young girl, was involved in a terrible car accident right here on the streets of Yerevan. No seatbelt, the interpreter says. Broken back. Now this, remember, is not the man who calls Caesers Palace home. Nor the Russian billionaire, who bought a sun to warm himself. No, this is the old man with no gold; which also made him a father with no answers. A man who suddenly had no way to help his little girl. No money for the operations or the medications required - not just in the following days and weeks, but for what would effectively be the rest of her life. And then, he says, the cheques started to come in. They arrived on a regular basis from Australia, because, even though he hardly knew Vakhtang Darchinyan, someone else did. They not only told the champ about this humble man's plight, but asked if, maybe, he might help? And today, well, his daughter lives. "So tonight, we drink," says the old man with no gold, lifting his glass of vodka high into the air. "Not to Vic Darchinyan as boxing champ . . . but to Vic Darchinyan as a man." LITTLE BIG MAN Vic Darchinyan IBO BANTAMWEIGHT WORLD CHAMPION Born Armenia Lives Sydney Age 35 Record 37 wins, 3 losses, 1 draw

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chgitem yes em horetes dartsel, te achqers nor en bacvum "irakanutyan" araj... esqan vat norutyun vonts kareli a kul tal? heriq chi????? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------ASALA VETERAN: CORRUPTION AND LAWLESSNESS IN TOP ECHELONS OF POWER KEY REASON OF ARMY NEGATIVE IMAGE IN ARMENIA Arminfo Thursday, September 8, 16:36 Corruption and lawlessness in top echelons of power are the key reason of army negative image in Armenia, Alek Yenigomshyan, a member of Sardarapat Movement Initiative Group, veteran of the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA), told media, Thursday. Bribe taking leads to non-interference into incidents in the army hereby promoting such non-combat relations, he said. System changes are not enough, he thinks, it is necessary to raise the authority of the healthy officer forces and help them resolve the army problems. Yenigomshyan is sure that problems in the Armenian public are only one of the reasons of the recent incidents in army. But it is wrong explaining the outrage in Armenia with the popular phrase "army is the mirror of the public." Recently non-combat deaths in unclear circumstances in army have grown in number. Thus, on August 26 soldier of NKR Defense Army Aghasi Abrahamyan died in hospital. He was severely beaten up in his army unit and taken to the med bunker where he was left on the ground for 10 hours and again beaten up by the head of the med bunker. Yesterday another soldier of Askeran regiment of the NKR Defense Army Hayk Mkrtchyan was killed while on duty by his comrade Lendrush Nazlukhanyan as a result of mishandling a gun. Earlier, the video posted on Youtube by the initiative group "We will not keep silent!" http://www.youtube.c...h?v=kltNRmTe2TI tells that the comrade of Hovhaness Vardanyan informed the family of the soldier that their son was taken to psychiatric hospital 9 days ago. The territorial military commission called the incident a misunderstanding. Vardanyan's father phoned the commander of his son to get more information on the incident. The commander explained nothing. The Defense Ministry has not responded to the statements of the soldier's relatives since August 3. "I sent a healthy boy to army, and has got him back from Karabakh in such state," the father cried out. The soldier in the video just repeats separate phrases going to and fro, rolling on the ground and saying that he served well in Karabakh but he was beaten up and raped. The uncle of the soldier Aram Virabyan expressed indignation at the negligence of the higher instances to the incident. "This negligence makes us leave for Karabakh and settle accounts with the offenders. We are ready to rally in the square with posters," he said.

IF TURKS AFRAID TO SAY "GENOCIDE", WE WILL CHANGE THE WORD - AZNAVOUR news.am, Armenia Sept 9 2011 Armenian News-News.am represents the famous singer, Armenian Ambassador in Switzerland Charles Aznavour's interview at France 2 channel's "Vivement Dimanche" program, which had caused serious reaction in Turkish media and some circles of Armenia. In your "From one door to another" book, you say that your problem is the word "genocide" It's a word that bothers you, and finally bothers me. What I'll say now probably will make some Armenians angry with me, however, it's not tragic. If Turks really have the decency to say that only the word "genocide" bothers them, we will change the word, so that the borders get opened and the Turkish government, I'm not saying the Turks, the Turkish government start thinking about a dialogue with us. And why it's so difficult for Turkey to recognize the genocide? If I'm not mistaken, when we drink we say "to your health", when Jews drink, they say "to your life", and when Turks drink, they say "to your honor". I think the problem is here, we should remind them that honor has two sides and that they should not only protect themselves but also accept the reality. 1.5 million, that's a huge number for a small country. 1.5 or 2 million. It's the same. When they kill a child, or 1.5 million Armenians, or 6 million Jews, it's the same. They've killed. They wanted to kill. That is important. And all these innocent victims are left without a grave. Yes, it hurts me because in Deir-el-Zor there are places where they still find bones in the sand or in dust. Earlier the Turkish media distorted the words of Charles Aznavour. "Every time, when talking about Turkey or Turks, Charles Aznavour tries to speak moderate. In this interview, once again he has tried to distinguish the Turk individuals from the Turkish government, but such a phrase like "the word genocide bothers me" he has never said. Turks have distorted his words. Aznavour has only mentioned that just like the killing of 1.5 million, the killing of one Armenian is also unacceptable for him" said Hilda Chobanyan of Dashnaktsutyun.

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----Սիրելի տղայի հետ առաջին ժամադրությունը պետք է լինի անմոռաց, չափազանց ռոմանտիկ, ճիշտ այնպես, ինչպես նկարագրված է գրքերում ու ֆիլմերում: Բայց արի ու տես, մի անհաջող քայլ ու քո պատկերացրած գեղեցիկ սցենարի հերն անիծվում է Aha te vortegh a porci pakas@ iren zgacnel talis. Haykakan irakanutyan mej, HATKAPES HAYASTANUM, axchik@ der parum e grqayin romatizmov. 1. Hajeli che irakanum nman temanner shoshapel@. Yerevanum tghanner@ himnakanum nman qayli en gnum porcelov apahovagrel irenq irenc apaga anaknkalneric. 2. Yerevan@ darcel e ashxarhi bazmaporc kuyseri mayraqaghaq@. Amen voq azat e aprel inchpes vor inqn e uzum....sakayn Yerevanum, axchikner@ hajax sut u molorecnogh qayleri en dimum arhestakanoren(irenc haskacoghutyamb) irenc arjeq@ bardzracnlu hamar. 3. BATSARDZAK SUT E. Yerevanyan irakanutyan mej axchik@ 2 bani e shat karevorutyun talis -1. apahovutyun(pogh...) 2. heghinakutyun. Hay tghanneri inqnahastatvelu molucqov tarvel@ nayev paymanavorvats e axchikneri kogmic havanutyan arjananalu patrvakov. Isk pogh unenal@ voch aynqan barekecik, urax u apahov kyanq unenalu mijoc e, inchqan vor 'firma shor hagnelu u urishnerin zarmacnelu' molutsq. Andzamb yes chem hishum mi depq vor arajin handipman jamanak akhchik@ chporci kartsiq dzevavorel im finansakan vijaki masin. Yerevanum aveli shat mijocn e gnahatvum qan mard@ iren arjaniqnerov. 4. Ba heto??? ))))))))))))))) Arden vaghuc pastvats e vor Hayastan@ hamarvum e ashxarhi amena txur yerkir@, Zimbabveic heto. Googl@ nor cucak hraparakec @st vori, poqrik Hayastanic aveli shat e "porno" sit@ mtnogneri tiv@ qan mek urish yerkric. Vorn e patjar@ vor Hayer@ aydqan TKHUR u CHBAVARARVATS EN? Tghanneri mets mas@ boghoqum e vor irenc arats@ u asats@ yerbek hamzor ardzaganq chi gtnum akhchinerio mot. Aveli parz, -irenc khosqerov....inch el vor anum u asum en, eli qich e. Teryevs sa e patjar@ vor tghamardik misht dzktum en depi durs...depi rusner@ u ukrainacinner@. Im xorin hamozmamb, yerb Yerevanyan akhchikner@ sovoren yuri kargavijakic durs gal, u yerb shbman mshakuyt dzevavorvi irenc mot, ayn jamanak aveli khorqayin shbmn mej karogh en mtnel tghamardu het. 5. Glukh goval@ irakanum lav ban che, bayc Yerevanum shat shat tghanneri kartsiqov akhgchka achqum lav yerevalu miak dzevn e. Inchqan el tarorinak tva, Yerevanum aghchikner@ sirum en lezu tapogh, hamozogh, inqnq irenc govacogh tghanneri. 6. «Չեմ հասկանում` ինչու են միշտ հայ տղաները առաջին ժամադրությանը մեզ հրավիրում «շաբլոն» սրճարան: ---Vorovhetev axchikner@ SHABLON baner shat en sirum. 7. Ժամադրությունը չպետք է ընդհատվի հեռախոսային զանգերով ու sms գրելով:----bacardzak jshmartutyun e...sakayn ays yerevuyt@ aynqan jamanak ksharunakvi, qan der PETQENERI/ORENQNERI CUCAK@ CHI VERACEL. Tekuz yev THAJ, bayc tghanneri hamar inqnahastatvelu dzev e akhchka nerkayutyamb herakhosin pataskanel sms grel@. Shat tarorinak e hnchum, bayc da e mer Yerevanyan irakanutyun@. 8. Ամբողջ աշխարհը քարոզում է առողջ ապրելակերպը, իսկ ինքը, ոնց որ այս աշխարհից չլինի. մի ծխախոտը մյուսի հետևից է վառում:----ayd apushutyun@ nuynpes inqnahastavelu dzev e. Mard@ porcum e iren nerkayutyun@ partadrats lini. Ovqer vor vaghuc hayastanum chen aprum, irenc hamar anhaskanali ktva te inch kap uni ayd nokhali yervuyt@ inqnahastatvelu het. Sakayn da e irakanutyun@ mi mijavayrum vortegh mard@ orva amen varkayan mtatsum e iren azdecutyun@ shrjapati vra taratselu masin. 9. Hayastan@ arevelyan yerkir e u zert che arevelqin bnorosh hajoyakhosutyan dzeveric. 10. Iroq teghin che arajin hadpman@ nman barer shraylel@....BAYC, Yerevanum arajin handipumic heto akhchik@ sovorabar het e qashvum u spasum em vor tghan sovats gayli pes iren aravotic minch yereko hetapndi. Tghannneri mets mas@ barer sraylelov porcum en yentahogh steghtsel apagayi hamar....(irakanum da nayev siro, gurguranqi, jerm verabermunq stanalu pakasic e). -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Amen inch shat tarber kliner, yete haraberutyan mej mtnelu, haraberutyun karucelu mshakuty@ mezanum poqr inch zargacats liner. Cavoq arevtrakanin bnorosh varqagtsov en yeritasardner@ irar motenum,...u kertum en aydn, inch vor unenq.

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What Armenian Catholicos Wrote to US President Barack Obama http://www.epress.am/en/2011/08/29/what-armenian-catholicos-wrote-to-us-president-barack-obama.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+EpressNewsEN+%28Epress.am+News%29 In Dec. 2009, His Holiness Karekin II, the Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of All Armenians, sent a letter to the US Ambassador to Armenia addressed to US President Barack Obama regarding the issues concerning ethnic and religious minorities in the Republic of Georgia, according to a Wikileaks cable released Aug. 26, 2011. In the letter, His Holiness Karekin II states that he wishes to bring to Obama’s attention the “unacceptable situation” regarding the status of religious minorities in Georgia, noting that the situation has worsened since the collapse of the Soviet Union. “As head of the Armenian Church, our unfortunate experience over the past two decades leads us to conclude that nothing in the religious sphere within Georgia has changed for the better since the collapse of the Soviet Union. On the contrary, religious life in the Republic of Georgia today “except within the Georgian Orthodox Church” is more restricted, repressed and intolerant for ethnic and religious minorities. “After numerous years of effort and countless unsuccessful attempts to work with the Georgian government and the Georgian Orthodox Church to regulate the Armenian Church diocese and communities in Georgia, we are forced to formally bring to your attention the unresolved issues regarding: 1) the lack of legal status for religious minorities in Georgia; and 2) the Georgian government’s refusal to return church buildings and church properties. We require your decisive assistance to compel the Georgian authorities to live up to their international obligations, among which are the fostering of an environment where all Christian churches, as well as religious organizations of other faiths, can operate normally and have their human rights respected and protected,” the letter reads. The Armenian Catholicos then cites an example of an Armenian church in Georgia that collapsed due to neglect. “The most recent example of the Georgian government’s indifference and wanton neglect resulted in the collapse two weeks ago of the historic St. Gevork of Mughni Armenian Church (built in 1356) in Tbilisi, Georgia; which is the second church we have lost in this manner. This has caused great indignation among our people and Church.” His Holiness Karekin II ends the letter by expressing hope that the US government “will implement the necessary steps to positively affect this unacceptable situation.” Note, in Jul. 2011, the Georgian parliament approved amendments to the Civil Code that conferred legal status to religious groups in the country.

1. nakhaqristoneakan jamanaknerum havatq@ nuyn haskacoghutyamb chi @nkalvel inch vor e aysor. ayn jamanak "havatq@" yeghel e arandzin usmunq a) tiezerqi b)mardu c) mard yev tiezerq pokhharabrutyan masin. 2. havatqi @nkalum@ vor unenq aysor, sharunakakan payqar e mekhanikakani vs gitakcakani.(bnutyan orenqnerin dem gnacogh animast payqar...) kron/havatq yev petutyan bajanum@ skzbunqoren petq e nuynpes ayd hardutyan vra ditel. qrmeri u ayd tsisakatarutyan masin ban chgitem-bayc hamozvats em, irenq el khorutyamb chen gitakcum te inchi het gorts unen. dranc gitakcakan@ ayn hardutyan vra chi vor karoghanan tesnel nerdashanakutyun@ mard-bnutyun u mekhanikakan/gitakcakan yerevutyneri.

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verjum eli kangnum enq nuyn keti vra----pxrun en axchikner@))

Something about/in this report doesn't look right. It reads "-- Armenia has no preconditions to establishing relations and opening borders. All bilateral problems and issues, including Genocide, can be discussed once relations are established." If that is true, inchi Bryzan ambogj or anckacrec Yerevanum u porcec pressuri mijocov protocolneri storagrman@ masnakcen? Vorn er patjar@ haykakan koghmi vra jnshum banecnelu? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ WikiLeaks publishes Armenian president’s letter to Premier Erdogan August 25, 2011 | 14:30 WikiLeaks published a cable of U.S. Embassy in Yerevan containing the letter of the then president Robert Kocharyan to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Armenian News-NEWS.am posts the full text. “Dear Prime Minister, I’ in receipt of your letter. Indeed, as two neighbors, we both must work to find ways to live together in harmony. That is why, from the first day, we have extended our hand to you to establish relations, open the border, and thus start a dialogue between the two countries and two peoples. There are neighboring countries, particularly on the European continent, who have had a difficult past, about which they differ. However, that has not stopped them from having open borders, normal relations, diplomatic ties, representatives in each other’ capitals, even as they continue to discuss that which divides them. Your suggestion to address the past cannot be effective if it deflects from addressing the present and the future. In order to engage in a useful dialog, we need to create the appropriate and conducive political environment. It is the responsibility of governments to develop bilateral relations and we do not have the right to delegate that responsibility to historians. That is why we have proposed and propose again that, without pre-conditions, we establish normal relations between our two countries. In that context, an intergovernmental commission can meet to discuss any and all outstanding issues between our two nations, with the aim of resolving them and coming to an understanding. Sincerely, Robert Kocharyan” The following is the text of the MFA non-paper (original in English) that accompanied the above diplomatic note: -- The content of the letter President Kocharyan received from Prime Minister Erdogan is not new. The call for historians to discuss the ‘events of 1915’ is a call that has been made by every single Turkish administration each time they are confronted with strong signs of international interest and attention to the Genocide and issues having to do with recognition. -- This is the first time that this kind of proposal has been presented in writing, from the highest level. Therefore, President Kocharyan has responded to Prime Minister Erdogan, even though we have serious concerns about their seriousness and sincerity. -- Our concerns are caused by several factors: -- First, the letter appeared in the Turkish press before it arrived in Yerevan; -- Second, it was immediately distributed in the US Congress with the clear implication that the process of ‘rapprochement’ and ‘reconciliation’ are underway and that any US action (such as a Congressional resolution) are unnecessary; -- Third, the Turkish penal code still penalizes citizens for using the term ‘genocide’ in the Armenian context. Indeed, two current court cases against writer Orhan Pamuk and publisher Ragip Zaraoklu are still pending. -- Fourth, the Turkish Parliament held hearings in mid-April on the Armenian issue and issued a statement not only confirming their own revisionist efforts, but also blatantly calling on third countries (such as the UK) to revisit, review and revise their own archives. -- Nevertheless, President Kocharyan’s letter reiterated the Armenian position: Armenia is ready to discuss any issue, at the intergovernmental level. The ideal way to do that would be to have diplomatic relations. Even if that is not immediately achievable, there can still be some normalcy in relations, open borders, easy communication and travel between our two countries and our representatives. -- Armenia has no preconditions to establishing relations and opening borders. All bilateral problems and issues, including Genocide, can be discussed once relations are established. -- Turkey uses three different excuses to explain their maintaining closed borders. One is Armenia’s insistence on Genocide recognition. (Armenia’s response is that genocide recognition and remembrance is a moral issue that cannot be dropped, but Armenia does not make such recognition or remembrance a precondition to relations.) -- The second excuse is that Armenians have not reaffirmed Turkey’s territorial integrity. (Armenia’s response is that the Kars treaty which defines the current border between Armenia and Turkey has neither been revoked nor renounced. Further, since independence, no Armenian official has made any territorial claims of Turkey.) -- The third excuse is the still unresolved Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. (Armenia’s response is that this is a problem with a third country, and is unrelated to our bilateral relations.) -- We fervently hope that Prime Minister Erdogan will respond positively to President Kocharyan’s proposal to normalize relations, so that we can address the most complicated problems.

Nvard@ Gyumriic a? Ha Nvard?

ardzan@ tesa. poxaren@ enqan humorov baner eghav, vor intov aselu ban chi. poghocner@ nkareluc mardik iranq ein motenum, tun ein hravirum. Hayastan aycelogh cankacats mardu xorhurd ktam nuyn ban@ ani.

POPE LEO XIII APPEALED TO SULTAN IN VAIN TO STOP AN EARLIER MASSACRE OF ARMENIANS Catholic Insight http://www.catholicinsight.com/online/article_1169.shtml Aug 23, 2011 Armenia News reported July 11, 2011 on an appeal by Pope Leo XIII (Pope: 1878-1903) to the Turkish sultan to stop the 1894-1896 massacre of Armenian Christians. That appeal was recently disclosed by the Vatican Archives. Following the release of the "Secret Archives" dealing with Armenia, a reporter for the Turkish Vatan newspaper interviewed Archbishop Sergio Pagano, who is in charge of the Vatican Archives. Archbishop Pagano "stressed that back in 1896...Pope Leo XIII called on the Sultan to show sympathy and stop the genocide." "Pagano said that the documents and information about the Armenian genocide from Vatican's secret archives will be published in a separate book. He cited several stories from the documents. "An eyewitness from Erzurum said, 'I saw how numerous children were killed. My niece ran away from home with a two-year-old child on her shoulders, but she was shot. When she fell on the ground two soldiers came to her and killed her. I saw the killing of our city's spiritual leader. They gouged out his eyes, pulled his beard. Before killing him, the soldiers forced him to dance." Another story was told by a Turkish soldier named Mustafa Suleyman: 'We entered the Armenian villages and killed them all, without regard to gender and age. Kurds who came with us robbed Armenian houses. Many old Armenians, disabled people, were hiding in schools located in the centre of the city, but we had an order and killed them. Eight hundred Armenians were killed and burnt in Geliguzan village. They gouged out the eyes of a priest, Fr. Hovhannes; his beard, nose, and ears were cut off. I have not killed a single child, even saved two of them. I was hiding them in my tent but once I went in I saw their bodies dismembered.' "Under the orders of bloody Sultan Abdul Hamid over 300,000 Armenians were killed in 1894-1896." (The Wanderer, July 21, 2011) The massacre of these years is not to be confused with the greater Armenian Holocaust which took place during the World War I years, when an estimated 1.5 million Armenians were killed. Obviously, this slaughter foreshadowed the larger one in 1915. Both crimes were ignored by Europe whose nations were in deadly rivalry with one another.

hin anekdot@ hishetsi: Mek@ gnum e mi gyugh, tesnum e bolor@ qachalacel u tsitsaghum en. Zarmatsats harcnum e... "Inchi ek qachalacel?" ...patasxanum en "brdi plan@ chenq katarel dra hamar". aveli zarmacats 2rd harcn e talis..." ba inchi ek tsitsaghum?" ...patasxanum en "menq lav enq prtsel. koxqi gyugh@ dzvi plan@ chi katarel".======== =======hima 9 million dzu azgovi vorteghic gtnenq?????????????? achqis haver@ Khachik Stambulcyani xorhurdov dzvaduli mej en. http://news.am/arm/news/71912.html Անհետացել է 9 միլիոն ձու «Հայաստանը ամսական մոտ 1 մլն հատ ձու է ներկրում Ուկրաինայից, որ թռչնաբուծարաններից մեկը տրամադրում է պաշտպանության նախարարությանը»,- երեկ կայացած ասուլիսում հայտարարել է ՀՀ գյուղատնտեսության նախարարի առաջին տեղակալ Գրիշա Բաղիյանը` ավելացնելով, թե վերջերս 350 հազար ձու հետ է ուղարկվել մատակարար երկիր` ձվի մեջ անթույլատրելի նյութերի առկայության պատճառով: «Գ.Բաղիյանի հրապարակած թվերը սակայն, մեղմ ասած չեն համապատասխանում իրականությանը: Բանն այն է, որ ՀՀ Պետական եկամուտների կոմիտեի մաքսային վիճակագրության տվյալների համաձայն, 2011 թվականի առաջին կիսամյակում Հայաստան է ներկվել 15 մլն 100 հազար հատ ձու: Այսինքն` իրականում ամսական Հայաստան է ներկրվում ոչ թե 1 մլն հատ ձու, ինչպես պնդում է Բաղիյանը, այլ` ավելի քան 2.5 մլն հատ ձու: Մինչդեռ, հայաստանյան որեւէ խանութում որեւէ մեկը չի կարող գնել ձու, որի վրա մակնշված լինի, որ այն արտադրվել է արտերկրում, դիցուք` նույն Ուկրաինայում: Այսինքն` եթե ներկրվող ձվի քանակից հանենք բանակին մատակարարվող ձվի տվյալներ, ստացվում է, որ ամսվա կտրվածքով առնվազն 1.5 մլն հատ ձու «անհետանում» է Հայաստանում: Բնականաբար, իրականում այդ ձվերը ոչ թե անհետանում են, այլ վաճառվում են հայաստանյան շուկայում` տեղական որեւէ թռչնաֆաբրիկայի մակնիշավորմամբ: Ի դեպ, Գ. Բաղիյանը տեղական ձվի արտադրության անկումը բացատրում է թռչնաբուծական տնտեսություններում ածան հավերի մորթով: Իրականում սակայն տեղական թռչնաֆաբրիկաները չեն դիմանում այն մրցակցությանը, որն առաջանում է ներկրվող գրեթե կրկնակի էժան ձուն տեղական արտադրության ձվի անվան տակ վաճառելու արդյունքում»,- գրում է «168 ժամ»-ը: