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It's EXACTLY what he said. Shall I dissect his speech line for line and prove that this is the case? I may do it when I find the time. Had he recited the whole Morgenthau book (because that's the only thing they read regarding the issue, though they will cut the “Murder of a Nation” part), and he had fallen short of uttering the term “Armenian Genocide” (because the G word hadn’t been invented back then) it would still be totally worthless in my view. You know, I know, it's all about that G word. Here the Turks won once again and we were spat on and mocked. The most powerful man in the world sucked up to these worthless, genocidal savages. What? The gray wolf bit his black balls? Seems the black balls of the head of state of the omnipotent US of A are as impotent as the pink balls of his predecessors. I shit on these tantalizing morsels of hope. I want my home that was taken from me through genocide. I am hurt that these pieces of chickenshit have made such mockery of our greatest tragedy and I reserve the right to differ with this loser's stand of our nation. Either he'll say Armenian Genocide or he'd better shut the furk up.

I don't get it? I damn well get it and I have repeated it a million times. It's our gullible nation with their petrified views who don't want to get it. They have stuck in the same vicious circular fallacy for decades and they don't want to get it: This is what the Jews who pull the strings in White House (and crypto Jews like Pelosi, Powers, Biden, Clinton and similar scum) have fed us with all the time: I. The US president doesn't say “genocide” II. “Don't worry, next year the Genocide bill will pass” III. The bill doesn't pass, there's always a pretext to say the most worthless garbage in the universe, Turkey, is important IV. “Don't worry, next year the president will say “Genocide”” V. Back to I ***** Hell, I'll copy/paste my view once more: As I have said this a million times, this “recognition” game is simply a lever in the hands of Jews to push the buttons of Turks or Armenians whenever needed, a very precious lever that these miserly bastards will never let go of, therefore, it's never going to happen. They have fooled us into believing unless the Jew appointed clown in the White House utters the term Armenian Genocide, we are not allowed to demand reparations from Turkey. They want us to believe, since they persuaded the world of their holo-schmolo and emotionally blackmailed the international community, they were able to kick the Arabs out of their home so that a couple million Khazar Turks would leave cool and rainy Europe and go live in the hot and dry desert. Same way we have to persuade the whole world that our nation was exterminated in our own homeland before we can “ask” for compensation. Since in the Union of Soviet Sionist “Republics” era the Armenian state did not exist as a subject of international law, the Diaspora Armenians had to push for this recognition issue and could not raise that of the Wilson arbitration, something that can only be done by a sovereign state. Wilsonian Armenia is no reparation, it is a strictly legal matter which has nothing to do with the Armenian Genocide recognition or not. In fact it dates from 22 November 1920, 28 years before the adoption of genocide laws. It is not compensation for the Armenian Genocide, but the restoration of our rights to albeit, a small part of our homeland which will allow us an outlet to the Black Sea and provide sufficient territory for the safety and progress of the Armenian nation. Compensation and damages we will demand when Turkey recognizes the Armenian Genocide, whenever that may be. I have to add to the above that in the light (or rather darkness) of the current developments and the concessions of our unworthy statesmen, I fear the worse, nevertheless. They are busy dealing with our bloodthirsty enemy, where by recognizing the genocidal Turco-Judeo-Bolshevik 1921 border these worthless politicians of ours will be committing the greatest treachery against the Armenian nation, in an era when Armenia is most powerful in the last six or seven centuries and where we also have a victory over our murderous enemy in our baggage. I also fear they'll cede the liberated territories around the “Azeri” drawn, illegal borders of NKAO which will herald the countdown to extinction of Armenia. To hell with what the Jew appointed puppet at the head of the United Slaves of Israel will utter concerning Armenians. He won't be doing anything but parroting the text written by his Jew speechwriter where at best what he might say wouldn’t be much different than: “If the Armenian massacres were condemned at the time, the holler-causter would never have happened”. That’s why I cry on top of my voice that Armenians all over the world should change their strategy, start a process of raising the awareness among all Armenians to put the pressure on the government of the Republic of Armenia to raise the Wilson arbitration issue. This will force the Jews to reconsider their strategy as well, passing resolution after resolution recognizing and re-recognizing the Armenian Genocide and beg us on their knees only if we would leave their Turk whore alone. Hey, pitiful statesmen of Armenia, bring on the issue of the borders fixed by the Wilson arbitration, the only internationally valid legal document concerning the borders between Armenia and Turkey, before it’s too late!

I was surprised I couldn't find any threads on Obama's betrayal of Armenians. While he spat on his solemn pledge, Obama swallowed Turkish Delight, giving head to the Turk. It seems giving head to filthy, murderous Turks is easier than a simple articulation of the term Armenian Genocide for the head of state of the most powerful nation/country/empire/economy/army/industry... in entire human history. Wait, besides the fact that he personally went to Chavez and greeted him and is even taking moves towards removing sanctions on Cuba after all these decades, he has also revoked the precondition concerning the halt on uranium enrichment process by Iran. It is clear that a simple recognition of the fact of the Armenian Genocide is more dangerous than nuclear bombs in the hands of mullahs... Fathom the absurdity of this! This should be a lesson for Armenians to reconsider their strategy and start a process of raising the awareness among all Armenians of the Wilson arbitration issue, so that this gets the attention of our unworthy statesmen, busy dealing with our bloodthirsty enemy, where by recognizing the genocidal Turco-Judeo-Bolshevik border and ceding the liberated territories around the “Azeri” drawn illegal borders of the former NKAO, these worthless politicians of ours will be committing the greatest treachery against the Armenian nation, in an era when Armenia is most powerful in the last six or seven centuries and where we also have a victory over our murderous enemy in our baggage. One other strategic shift could be that ANCA and other Armenian organizations concerned with Hye Dat demand that the US president refrain from issuing their yearly 24 April address if they are not going to use the term Armenian Genocide in it. This way, our cause will not be the object of mockery year after year. The only party that is harmed by this shameless denial of the US president is the Armenian side. Year after year and term after term, the US presidents regurgitate the same Turkic lie: “It was war... People died”. As a result, the genocidal vermin going by the four-letter curse to humanity Turk wins and comes out stronger year after year where the wrong perception may also gain strength among uninformed non-Armenian masses that “hey, maybe it wasn't genocide after all, otherwise, why doesn't the president qualify it as such every year despite his promises?”

When specimens of this Inhuman Civilization-deficiency Viruses start talking about the fact of the stealing of our homeland through genocide and the necessity for returning it to the landlord, which will herald the beginning of their metamorphosis from Turk to man, I'll consider their sincerity. Meanwhile, they can take their meek “apology” and shove it up their hairless Tatar asses. I want my home back and I don't want them in it.

P.S. As you can see in the article and indeed any article concerning Armenia coming from the Turks and their Judeo-Saxon suckers revolves around TERRITORY. They want territory, period. They haven't given up the sick, delusional, mainly Jew invented pan-Turkist delirium which was the reason for the Armenian Genocide, the Artsakh war, the destruction of our heritage (both instances of the continuation of the AG), the non-flexible stance of the sore, genocidal “Azeri” losers, and indeed anything coming from Turks concerning Armenia and Armenians. They want Armenian territory bad. No matter what the government of the RoA does, there should never be any question of ceding a single nanometer of territory to the Turk. They already got 90% of our homeland; we should under no circumstances allow any heads of government of Armenia to even contemplate about ceding territory. Never, ever!

This is the greatest problem of our diplomacy, i.e. the abysmal, lousy, timid, loser becoming diplomacy of the politicians of the RoA. I wish there were more Armen Ayvazians among our analysts and I wish our statesmen would listen for a change to him or guys like Ara Papian and Samuel Karapetian. But no, it's the same loser mentality even after Armenians have rubbed the filthy muzzle of Azerbaboons against the ground. It's about asserting the importance of any given nation: the most worthless, harmful garbage residue ever to have leaked the trashcan of the universe, the vicious, atrocious, pernicious two-legged Inhuman Civilization-deficiency Virus going by the despicable four letter insult to humanity Turk, is all about trumpeting to the Zykes and Faggots how IMPORTANT they are for the survival or their “empires”, while as I always say, Turkey is like an old and horrendously ugly whore that somehow (with a little help from their Khazar kin who own the media) manages to sell her putrid, decomposing carcass at an exorbitant price. The fact is however that without the hundreds of billions of dollars of hard earned US taxpayers' money that's being shoved down the bottomless throat of the Sik Fuck of Europe, they'd start eating donkeys first and when that would become no more available, they'd gobble down their own whelps. Yet, no matter how many aces the Armenians hold, they'll still say “we are nothing”, “Armenia is worthless”, “we are dependant on our Russian uncle” that has screwed us over and over again in the last three centuries. I wish the Armenians could also start behaving with more confidence and impose their importance, but seeing all the totally unnecessary concessions Armenia has already done in the last month (think of the removing of Ararat from the shirts of the national football team, the dimming of the lights of Tzitzernakabert when the ishek Turk was in Armenia and -I hope I have heard wrong- the removal of Ararat from our emblem) I don't think this is going to happen. No effing way! All that's south and west of the River Kur is historic Armenian territory. In ancient times Arax and Kur did not meet and the territory in between that reached the Caspian is also Armenian. We'll have to play hard with fake “Azerbaijan” and set our goals at taking back all Armenian land under “Azeri” occupation until we cut that fake nothingness from Iran and make the abuse of the name of the northwest Iranian province Azarbaijan (the real, Atrpatakan) unacceptable for the counterfeiters. At least we have to take back the rest of Artsakh until Gandzak and Nakhijevan. Any peace treaty that will eventually be signed with fake “Azerbaijan” should on no account contain the recognition of the borders of the fabricated state: I. There's not a single legal document in the world that deals with the delineation of the borders of fake “Azerbaijan”, thus, the whole noise about the territorial integrity of that bogus state is nothing but fiction. II. Since fake “Azerbaijan's” bid to join was rejected by the League of Nations in 1920 right before its Sovietization, it has never existed as a subject of international law (a sovereign state) before 1991 when Artsakh (with the present borders) had already emerged as an independent state making their claim over Artsakh totally baseless. III. In the case of signing a peace treaty with fake “Azerbaijan”, Armenia should take care not to allow any recognition of borders of that counterfeited nonentity, otherwise it will become a recognized state with recognized borders for the first time in its 90 year, miserable existence and we will lose any future chance of getting Nakhijevan, the rest of Artsakh up to the River Kur, Utik and Pytakaran provinces back. We'll see whether our statesmen will perpetuate our historically lousy diplomacy and make the same mistakes over and over again or they'll wise up for a change, behave like victors and become real diplomats that work for the interests of our nation.

If he is a well meaning person, please tell him not to screw with what's not in his competence. The Wilson arbitration is not something ANYBODY can alter. If he cares for the Armenian nation, let him support this document and help increase the awareness among Armenians so that they'll pressure the government of the Republic of Armenia (the only eligible party to raise but not to alter) to raise the Wilson arbitration issue. I keep a low profile and I don't participate in discussions, because the mods don't like my style and fuck with my posts. I don't care about credibility. I seriously suspect foul play here. If so, we have to be happy that they have sensed the danger of the Wilson arbitration when a patriotic government comes to power in Armenia, therefore, they have started bargaining to save as large an ass as possible of their Turk whore. If a Jew nose is not behind this map, I will eat my head.

This reeks of Judeo-Saxon sonofabitchery. Just imagine fifty such “groups” proposing fifty different maps, then, in the impossible case Turks were pressured to agree to bleed, you must not blame the Turk to say, “which one shall I consider?” and refuse to cede any territory. Unless this comes from some illiterate losers, it is very dangerous to tie the territorial reparation to the recognition of the Armenian Genocide. It is the stupidest thing to ignore the only valid document regarding the borders of Armenia, arbitrarily drawing whatever map. I sent a harshly toned email to the contact on the website and I invite everyone to send a similar message to these scumbags and force them either to revise their map or remove their goddamn website: Email to dbd@regionalkinetics.com from http://www.regionalkinetics.com/contact.html Hello, I saw your http://www.regionalkinetics.com website and I was shocked. No matter how you interpret this, it is absolutely not in your authority to draw arbitrary maps of Armenia. The Woodrow Wilson arbitration is a final, irrevocable document and while it only includes about 40% of Turk occupied Armenia, it is the only legal document regarding the border between Turkey and Armenia according to international law. Without going into details, here some points: I. Wilsonian Armenia is the absolute minimum the Armenian nation will settle for, thus, your thinning it down to half in favor of the genocidal Turk and your claim “What Armenians Want and Why” is totally misleading. If you do not have an agenda of confusing those Armenians not so aware of their rights, you should only speak for yourselves. II. Armenia is not Anatolia! The Armenian Highland starts where Anatolia ends at the 38th eastern meridian. Occupied Smyrna, occupied Angora, occupied Adrianople, etc., are in fact in Anatolia (Greek for east) and not occupied Van, Karin, Baghesh, Kharbert, Kars, Ardahan, etc. These are in Armenian Highland. Anatolia or Asia Minor is the peninsula, the western half of today's on genocide founded Turkey. The eastern half of Turkey is not Anatolia. The worst mistake even “academic” people allow is the despicable, meaningless term “Eastern Anatolia” (Eastern East). When are we going to learn and avoid using terms created for genocidal purposes (including “South Caucasus”, “Azeri”, “Caucasus Albania”, etc.)? III. The map on your website http://www.regionalkinetics.com/map+3B%20large.jpg shows less than half of the Wilsonian borders, i.e. it leaves the rest of the Wilson border (not to speak of 60% remaining Turk occupied Armenia) out. I do not know who drew these borders, it is legally inadmissible. Nobody, no state, not even the state of Armenia, is in position to alter an arbitral award. IV. Consequently (see point above), the Wilson border is LEGALLY Armenian territory according to INTERNATIONAL LAW, ever since 22nd of November 1920 when Woodrow Wilson signed and sealed (with the big seal of the United States) his arbitration on the delineation of borders between Armenia and Turkey. THIS IS NO COMPENSATION OR REPARATION! THIS HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE! This is illegally occupied Armenian territory for 88 years. Reparations we will demand: for our destroyed nation, civilization, monuments and for the 88 year illegal occupation, when Turkey recognizes the Armenian Genocide, whenever that may be. V. The Wilson Arbitration also mentions the borders of Armenia with fake “Azerbaijan” and Georgia. On your map, even liberated Artsakh does not figure! -Although with all the liberated territory included, that is half of historic Artsakh province. What's this? Is this a mistake? Agenda? The Artsakh that exists today is a de facto entity, how on earth have you left this out? And don’t give me “NKR is another state” or similar excuses. The Wilsonian arbitration is also beneficial regarding borders with Georgia and fake “Azerbaijan”. From Woodrow Wilson Report: “As regards the boundary between the State of Armenia and Georgia and Azerbaijan, the Commission considers that, it is advisable for the present to await the results of the agreement, provided for in the treaties existing between the three Republics, in regard to the delimitation of their respective frontiers by the States themselves. In the event of these Republics not arriving at an agreement respecting their frontiers, resort must be had to arbitration by the League of Nations, which would appoint an Interallied Commission to settle on the spot the frontiers referred to above, taking into account, in principle, of ethnographical data.” This means the UN as a successor of the League of Nations, has the duty to draw the border between the three countries according to the ethnographical data of 1920, i.e. Artsakh right up to Gandzak, Nakhijevan and Javakhk will also fall within the borders of Armenia. http://www.armeniangenocide.com/photos/data/500/medium/map-armenia-sevres-rep-1920-soviet.jpg Wilsonian Armenia, 100% legally Armenian territory in full accordance with international law. Click on the map for a larger version.

First off, the Armenian statesmen should come clean with the bluff of ceding any territories to the sore genocidal “Azeri” losers. The end goal is that Artsakh be reunified with Armenia, whole of Artsakh that is, because about half of the province is still under “Azeri” occupation. The borders of the NKAO (the fetus) were drawn by the genocidal savages according to their pan-Turkist agenda, which severed the province from motherland Armenia and left highly Armenian populated areas out of NKAO, therefore, these artificial borders are illegal. There's not a single legal document in the world that deals with the delineation of the borders of fake “Azerbaijan”, thus, the whole crap about the territorial integrity of that bogus state is nothing but fiction. More, since fake “Azerbaijan's” bid to join was rejected by the League of Nations in 1920 right before its Sovietization, it has never existed as a subject of international law (a sovereign state) before 1991 when Artsakh (with the present borders) had already emerged as an independent state making their claim over Artsakh totally baseless. In the case of signing a peace treaty with fake “Azerbaijan”, Armenia should take care not to allow any recognition of borders of that counterfeited nonentity, otherwise it will become a recognized state with recognized borders for the first time in its 90 year, miserable existence and we will lose any future chance of getting Nakhijevan, the rest of Artsakh up to the River Kur, Utik and Pytakaran provinces (right to the Caspian, which will cut the fake state from Iran and real Azarbaijan (Atrpatakan) and render its appellation unjustified) back. We'll see whether our statesmen will perpetuate our historically lousy diplomacy and make the same mistakes over and over again or they'll wise up for a change and become real diplomats that work for the interests of our nation.

Georgia is at its weakest point in the recent era. This is the perfect time for Armenians to do what our enemies accuse us of all the time. The time is ripe to “stab” the ungrateful Georgia in its back. The Armenians of Javakhk will never find a better time, when Georgia is on the verge of falling apart, to rise and liberate our cunningly stolen Javakhk. All Armenians everywhere and our state have to support our brothers and sisters in Javakhk in every possible way we can. Of course, like always Armenians will not want to “betray” their discriminatory, abusive occupiers. But will they thank us or acknowledge our unnecessary loyalty in these dark days when the light shines on them once more or whenever they find the chance they'll persecute us even more? Therefore, the Armenians of Javakhk have to rise and declare Javakhk's separation from Georgia and its return to Armenia. Georgia does not have the will or the power to wage a heavy war against a 90% Armenian province. In case of such war they are at the weakest point of their existence at least in the recent era. This is the best time we can ever wish for to kick them under their belly and get it over with.

Check this out: Armenians in the Ottoman Army (From the 14th Century till 1918) Don't miss the pics!

any suggestions? no buddy, you left us speechless. der taq enq, togh mi qich jamanak ancni, heto ktesnes inch ahreli mets gorts es arel. Oh, the suggestions! Aratta jan, while members are free to comment on the thing, actually I was talking about suggestions to host the PDF in a more secure place. The web it is on now is a free service and they might remove the file after a while, mainly if there's little activity (download). Therefore, suggestions are still welcome because I'd rather have it also on an Armenian web which will guarantee it will be available as long as the website is online.

Amachetsnum es Aratta jan. Miain huysov em bolor@ yerb "Azeri" bar@ lsum en gitenan vor aydpisi azg goyutiun chuni yev yerb Azerbaijan anun@ lsum en, gone anmijapes mtatzen artyok real Azarbaijani (Atrpatakan) masin a khosk@ te keghtzi masin. Sharunakek ays gortz@ yev spread the truth all over.

Thanks for the kind words again. I also believe this should spread all over. I believe this should encourage the Armenians to do more research in the direction. I still hear on many an occasion, even from experts, that they allow gross mistakes by saying for instance, in 1905 the "Azeris" did this or that, not even thinking for a second the term "Azeri" to describe a group was not even invented decades after that.

This is one of the most despicably disgusting lies ever, that the vicious, atrocious, ferocious, pernicious two-legged Inhuman Civilization-deficiency Virus, the most worthless, reeking, harmful garbage ever to have leaked the trashcan of the universe, the "Azeri" Turk has come up with. These hollow hoaxers that allowed this filth to vomit from his ass, should have asked the lying Turd to name the source and the date of ONE such interview, but since the "word" of Azerbaboons is Hebrew scripture for these bastards, they naturally didn't bother to do that, which brings us to the following piece of shit: This Jew scambug with a Turk whore is slowly but surely growing like a malignant tumor into a second McFarty... Hey, piece of kosher, Turkscrewing filth Goltz! Show us a single proof of those alleged 630 civilians killed by the Armenians. The Turk Chingiz Mustafayev had more integrity than this criminal that hid evidence of the disfiguring of the corpses of 34 Armenian hostages only on March 2 1992 corpse show, where there were no such mutilations on the show on February 29th, which confirms the bloodthirsty "Azeri" garbage did it to hide the identities of the Armenian victims and use Chingiz' photos, AFTER they killed him because he had discovered the scam, to falsely accuse the Armenians. 630? 100, 200, 300, 136, 613, 450, 500, 1000, 1300, 1500, 2000... Hey retarded Azerbaboons, settle on the goddamn figure! How many samples of your worthless species of vermin did the Armenians put out of their misery after all? All the cadavers of the allegedly put out garbage were in your disposal, CAN'T YOU FKNG COUNT? Isn't this the most blatant proof that this is a stinking lie?

You mean on the download page, because that's what I meant. In any case you should first click the link here to go to the download page then do as you do, whether it is dropping the file link in the "Drop Target" icon of Go!zilla, Get Right or the like, or opening the PDF in your browser (if you have broadband) and saving the file with the Acrobat Reader diskette (save) button or menu or right-clicking and doing "Save Target As…" or whatever other way that exists. The point is, you cannot save the file directly from the link here.

It's good that you guys report these things. The link here does not fetch the PDF file itself but goes to the download page, in case you are right clicking and doing "Save Target As...". You should click the link and it goes to a download page of the host imagehost.org. Do not right-click and do "Save Target As..." here, but do it on the page that opens when you click the link here. It creates a dynamic link each time, so it is not possible to post a direct link to the file. They do this for advertisement, this way each time anyone downloads a file they will learn about the host. Dear crusader1492, It works fine here, please do report the result in any case; thanks.

Here's the PDF version: And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real the Fake and the Absurd (3.2 MB) Since on this sort of file hosting they delete the files after a while, I'm still looking for a website (preferably an Armenian site) where I can store this file permanently (as long as the site exists). Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks

Thanks Zartonk, for the kind words.

The rest of what you cite in your post is a mixture of half truths and Turkish concoctions to confuse the unsuspecting readers. Example: They cite the great Iranian Azarbaijani scholar Kassravi and the exceptionally objective "Azeri" historian Igrar Aliev (not anti-"Azeri" though) who both in fact have debunked all their lies yet a little further they recount a cock-and-turk story of a turkdung hill as the origin of the term Azarbaijan! They quote Strabo and still have the nerve to cite the Armenian Sebeos for the sole reason of namedropping to give false legitimacy to their excretion. Pathetic. http://www.ics.uci.edu/~javid/azerbaijan/history.html

Atrpatakan is Azarbaijan (the real). If you're in a hurry please read the section Everything’s in a Name that contains the headings: The Origin of the Term Azarbaijan and The Meaning of the Term Azarbaijan (Ատրպատական) It's all been explained in this thread. You can read a section per day and you'll find out the answers to your questions. This is pure gobbledygook. Please read the thread to find out why. "Caucasian Albans" have nothing to do with Azarbaijan (Atrpatakan), Medes are Iranians and have nothing to do either with Turks or with Aghvans ("Caucasian Albans"), There is no Turkish heritage or culture, Turkish "culture" has nothing to do with the Aghvans or Medes or "Atropatenians" (people of Atropatena, Atrpatakan, Azarbaijan (the real)) or the Caucasus or Europe or the "Middle East". It's almost a paraphrase of the bullshit vomited by Abulfazl Elçibay in Bu manin taleyimdir, Baku, 1992, page 61: "Since hundreds of thousands of years, "Azeri" Turks lived in lands stretching from Hamadan to Darband and from Gokçe to the Caspian Sea." which I have also cited in this thread. Please do take your time and read the thread.

What do you exactly mean by this? The "Azeri" garbage was firing Grads round the clock for months on innocent Armenian civilians from Khojaly yet Maragha was a peaceful village where people lived their lives. The genocidal "Azeri" filth sawed off heads of innocent civilians and burnt the bodies of dozens of Armenians in an "Azeri" controlled region. In Shahoomian-Getashen "and so forth" they used the Russian army, aerial bombardment and artillery shelling to ethnically "cleanse" 24 Armenian districts from its peaceful population in an "Azeri" occupied Armenian territory... These were definitely acts of genocide where the Khojaly thing was a necessary wartime operation. The insignificant Khojaly incident scam is a Judeo-Turkish fabrication to smear the Armenians where the real victims were the 34 slaughtered Armenian hostages in Aghdam whose faces and bodies were mutilated by bloodthirsty "Azeri" scavengers to prevent them from being recognized. The photos and video of these unfortunate Armenians taken by Chingiz Mustafayev are used and abuse by the "Azeri" vermin to bring the Armenians down to their parasitical level after killing poor Mustafayev who found out the hoax and reported it to Moscow. http://www.eylence.az/blogs/media/010_10_x_01.jpg Chingiz Mustafayev a Turk with more integrity than the Jew Thomas Goltz. He smelled the Khojaly shit that hit the fan and was murdered by his "Azeri" siblings in "Azeri" controlled Armenian territory http://www.jwac.org/images/goltz.jpg The Jew scambug Thomas Goltz with a Turk wife that didn't even have the integrity of Chingiz Mustafayev and fabricated the insignificant Khojaly incident scam I have dealt with all of this in the relevant sections of And the Fraud Had a Name, Azarbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd

It's the same as going to "Azeri" hatesites and "learn" it there. This pile of filth has lost all the credibility right from their first braying about the conflict. Basically, their sole aim is to force Armenia to cede territory to the sore "Azeri" losers, just like that. The only question is who the hell gave them the authority to issue orders to a sovereign government. Anyway, in case you missed it you have enough info under the heading Debunking the “International” Crisis Group (ICG) on this thread to be sure of the pro-Turkish stance of this bunch of lowlifes.

This sort of encouragement was not the reason why I did this, but it takes all the exhaustion away. I'm deeply flattered. This is what I've mentioned every now and then about the thing I was doing on fake "Azerbaijan". It should be noted that this has to go on. It is just a start. I put special emphasis on the Islamic Historians section. The English translation of the books of these guys must be consulted by you guys who are in the US and have access to these. They give us precious info on the Armenian rights to Aghvan heritage and pulverize "Azeri" lies about their futile insistence on Aghvan descent. I have been working on this off and on since early 2007. I accelerated the process the last few months though. As I was working on this, I constantly created the PDF version along the way. There's a problem with the TOC links of MS Word in Acrobat. It does not link exactly to the Word bookmark. To do this, you have to create cross references using the Insert>>Reference>>Cross-reference... in Word. This worked fine sometimes, but it seemed as you changed something in Word, even when you updated the fields, the cross-reference got messed up in Acrobat. Now, the only thing left is to create those links in the PDF itself, but this demanded that I be sure of the version being as correct and as final as possible, because changing as much as a comma in Word would mean to export a new PDF and destroy the one with the links which means doing the links from scratch. I think I'll go with what I have posted here, otherwise the endless corrections will mean that I'll never be able to post a PDF. I'm proud of and I really appreciate the pinning of the thing on the board. I'll post info where to host the PDF when we reach a decision with you guys. Thanks for the warm words everyone, we all have to do as much as we can to counter Turkish fabrications. This is the least I could do.

Thank you Aratta jan. This is meant as a reference. Every aspect of fake "Azerbaijan" has been considered and I hope it has answers to all the lies Turks will try to enforce regarding the Artsakh issue. Every heading has been written in a way that it can be used independent of the others. It took me over four hours nonstop to post the topic, but I will try to post it on a maximum number of forums, Armenian and otherwise. In the coming days, I'll gradually post this on other Armenian forums that I know. When I'm done, I'll ask the users to inform me of other boards. I would like to remind the members of the new Maragha website. I realized you posted the link too. The reason I haven't included it in the internet references is because it is still under construction.