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'ARMENIAN GENOCIDE IS A GREAT INTERNATIONAL LIE' Perincek Arrested in Switzerland for This Statement July 24 marked 82 years of the Lausanne Treaty, which recognized modern Turkey's territorial wholeness and independence by legalizing national wars waged by Kemal Ataturk. This anniversary was celebrated in Turkey and Switzerland with special bustle. Interestingly, the arrangements on this occasion were organized by oppositional Republican People's Party and Democratic Left Party of Turkey and Workers' Party of Switzerland. Turkish Public Television saw the reason of the celebration in the recent fact of casting doubt on the Lausanne Treaty The pro-government Yeni Safak newspaper labeled the arrangements a provocative act against Justice and Prosperity Party from forces fighting for purity of Kemalic principles, pointing out meanwhile that the celebration turned into demonstration of power. The Lausanne-2005 arrangements in Winterthur and Lausanne on July 23-24 pulled in not only members of the Workers Party, Kemalist-Minded Union and Turks of Europe but also a group of 200 scientists and public figures from Turkey including the former president of "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", Rauf Denktas. They rallied in Lausanne chanting "Long Live Independent Turkey", "Down With American Imperialism" that slipped smoothly into crosswords. Hurriyet newspaper informs that the president of Turkish History Foundation, Yusuf Halacoglu, also expressed willingness to take part in the arrangements but stood back after Swiss authorities' decision to detain him. He is wanted by the Swiss police for rejecting the Armenian Genocide. "Armenian genocide is a great international lie", chairman of the Workers' Party Dogu Perincek backed Halacoglu on May 7. On July 23, when Perincek was repeating this statement in Winterthur, law-enforcers sanctioned by the prosecutor of the town arrested him in the hall and bundled off to the Prosecutor's Office. Interrogation lasted 3.5 hours. Perincek was released after the Turkish Foreign Ministry interfered. Foreign minister Abdullah Gul condemned arrests of leaders of Turkish political parties and said answering Hurriyet's question, "Having learned about the arrest of Perincek, we interfered immediately. Turkish consul-general to Zurich, Mehmed Emre, witnessed his interrogation. I was informing PM Erdogan all night through. Such an approach to Turkish party leaders is unacceptable". By Hakob Chakrian If you want to watch a video clip about the demonstration, click on ''Turcs et Kurdes manifestent à Lausanne....'' http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...y=1122193986000

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Paperback version Hardcover version Pay close attention to the reviews azeri readers gave. I aspecially like this one Unfortunately, the author could not present the objective view of the conflict in Garabakh and follows an extremely biased attitude. It is a known fact that Armenia always was an aggressive state for last 150 years and, in fact, was created as a result of migration of Armenians into Transcaucasia. That trend was accompanied by extermination and ethnic cleansing of the native inhabitants of the region - Azeris, Kurds, Turks, Georgians, Jews and others. The success of Armenians was solely due to the support of Russia which tried to increase its grip on that land by establishing and artificially created, loyal base. But author, unfortunately, tried to picture a completely opposite chronology of events, misrepresenting Armenians as "ancient people of Caucasus". The struggle for Garabakh, the ancient heartland of Caucasian Albania (Albanians of Caucasus were the ancestors of modern Azerbaijanis) presents another era of Armenian aggression. The massacres committed by Armenian army against Azerbaijani population of Garabakh and Armenian Republic is a much bigger ethnic cleansing campaign than Kosovo or East Timor. And trying to justify that crime, by distorting history and misleading the reader, is the main fault of this book. At least, the fact of Armenian migration 150 years ago into Garabakh and the following blood-bath against Azerbaijanis and their repeat in 1988-94 can not be ignored. What the azeri reader wrote here is completely the opposite of reality.

I know, I know... Try telling that to Bush

Do you think this resolution will stand a chance after the discovery of the fact that the Georgian terrorist was of Armenian ethnicity?

Kurdistan - yes Armenia - I don't think so. Why would Iranian nationalists want Armenia? The ARF officially does not demand any land from Iran, even though some of Iran (Parskahayk province) was historically Armenian. I don't think their nationalist agendas will go far under the Islamic regim. According to Islam, nationalism is not good.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/21/bush.grenade/ He confessed, but he didn't confess his Armenianess. He is a Georgian citizen nevertheless.

I didn't take the time to read all this, but what does he have to say about the Armenian melikates and the revolt of Tavit Peg in Karabagh and Sunik? What does he say about the Armenians who had to leave Armenia when the Persian Army was retreating? Does history start 200 years ago?

That's what I thought also. Even Erdogan is ''moderate'' Islamist.

If it's something to eat, then there has to be an Armenian word for it!

If the terrorist was Armenian, he wouldn't have missed jk Armjan which are the 2 other terrorist acts done by Armenians?

In what could be growing into a trend, over the past six months, vigilante groups have threatened Protestant church worshippers and have attacked their places of worship. In what could be growing into a trend in Turkey, individuals belonging to vigilante groups in the last six months have threatened Protestants and have attacked their places of worship. The media has also been increasingly critical of missionary activity, according to a recent report by Compass News. Also, some government ministers have accused missionaries of being politically motivated to "damaging the social peace and unity" of the nation. In a government-approved sermon at Friday prayers in Islamic mosques in March, the government warned that Christian missionaries were "pursuing political agendas" to "deceive and convert" people. The report cited several other attacks, including "sound bombs" equivalent to 150 firecrackers placed in front of doors of a Gaziantep church in April, and acts of vandalism at a protestant congregation in the Black Sea city of Samsun where numberous eggs were thrown at the building. In April a firebomb caused $10,000 in damage to the International Protestant Church in the capital of Ankara. After the attack, the U.S. Embassy in Ankara issued a warning noting an "up tick in threats and vandalism ... occurring during a period of increased focus by the Turkish media and government on "missionary activity in Turkey." None of the cases ended with death, but a near miss was cited when three young men bound an American named Wilbur Miller and his family, threatening to kill them, before the family was spared and told to leave the country immediately. It was not clear if investigations by local police and the U.S. Embassy resulted charges or conctions, the report states. Christians are in a position where they fear to report the attacks, according to Compass. Pastor Ihsan Ozbek, chair of the Alliance of Protestant Churches in Turkey told Compass that it was necessary to bring those issues to the attention of officials, so that those who threaten could be caught. In Turkey, the Protestant community is tiny, estimated to be about 3,500 Christians, in 55 locations of worship and 40 known house fellowships, according to Compass. Non Muslims in Turkey represent just 0.2 percent of a total population of about 70 million. Other Christian groups include members of the Greek and Armenian churches. http://www.christianpost.com/article/europ...in.turkey/1.htm Turkey is now known to be an ''example for the Muslim world''. Ironically, more than 99% of Turkey is Muslim, and such event doesn't improve its' reputation in Europe. And these Turks are demanding their rights in the West? We Armenians should take advantage of this information, and show that Christians are STILL persecuted in Turkey.

No, I'm born in Beirut. I just searched the word for gorilla in my french-armenian dictionnary. I already know the other words, but I use some of them only.

Maybe it's because historically, Armenians rarely encountered gorillas or other exotic animals in Armenia, so no word was formed to caracterize those animals. For Ape, I say ''gorilla'' with an Armenian accent, making it look like it's an Armenian word. This is not only exclusive in the Armenian language. For example, when the Turks reached the Middle-East and Anatolia, they saw books, papers, schools for the first time! So all they could do is learn the Arabic words for those objects (kitab, defter, medrese...) and include them in their so-called language. They also stole Greek words when they saw fish, etc... The Armenian language has a lot things other languages don't have. For example, a unique alphabet! We're also lucky we have words like heradesil (tv), inknasharj (car), heratsayn (telephone), hamatsants (internet), etc. Other languages, notably Turkish, would just steal the words from other languages. btw for gorilla, it's martagabig

Episodes of this documentary was/will be aired Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. I would have recorded them if my recorder was not screwed... btw its on CBC Newsworld, and not on the normal CBC channel.

This is the proper Armenian answer for what the Georgians did to an Armenian Church in Tiflis.

18 July 2005 (RFE/RL) -- Georgian police say they are investigating an attack against a group of students from Tbilisi that occurred in the mostly ethnic Armenian Akhalkalaki district. Interior Ministry spokesman Guram Donadze said local youths on 16 July beat up a group of university students who were cleaning up an abandoned Georgian Orthodox Church. The students returned to Tbilisi, where one was hospitalized with a head injury. Donadze said prosecutors opened a criminal case on charges of hooliganism, suggesting they did not necessarily see the incident as racially motivated. (Georgian Service/AP)

The Armenians of Diaspora worked their *sses off to raise enough money to rebuild the regions in and around Artsakh (including Kashatagh, Karvajar, etc.) I don't think it's ok to trade it for ''peace'' and a referendum that we're not even sure to win! And the fact that there are 2 choices of ''yes'' and 1 choice of ''no'' makes the situation even more dangerous for Armenians, especially if Azeris return to Artsakh and participate in the referendum. Note that with each Azerbaijani Muslim wife comes 6-8 children, and Muslim men usually get more than 1 wife...

I agree Skhara. Nobody seems to care about how the Serbs were treated under Ottoman rule, or about how Muslims entered that area, far from Arabia.

This is only one of the countless problems expansionist Turkey had with its' neighbours. http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2005/751/chrncls.htm

Maybe... But our past shows something about us, doesn't it?

Armenia existed for thousands of years and has resisted foreign rule and genocide. That's why I think it won't be extinct anytime soon.

If these Azeris really want to return to Artsakh, then they should let the Armenians occupy their former homes in Baku and other regions... But which sane Armenian would want to go back to Azerbaijan and live among Turks? Azeris composed 22.9% (37 300) of Karabagh's population before the war. There were supposedly more Azeri refugees than Armenian ones.

I don't know about Armenian minorities in other parts of the world, but we're considered a strong community here. Read this and see how the Lebanese community of Canada wants to be like the Armenian one. http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?ed...rticle_id=16720