Dave

In reality, it is only Azerbaijan that has to wish for the settlement of the Karabagh conflict.

We all write it this way; we just pronounce it differently. ----> Գարեգին

I don't know if it has been mentioned here, but Dan Brown's next book, "The Solomon Key", will feature freemasonry in it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Solomon_Key

Turkey asks Azerbaijan to explain alleged mistreatment of ethnic Armenian musician The Associated Press Published: December 26, 2006 ANKARA, Turkey: Turkey has asked its close ally Azerbaijan for information on the alleged mistreatment and expelling of a Turkish musician who is of Armenian descent, a Foreign Ministry official said Tuesday. Murat Bedikyan — a pianist with Eurovision song contest winner Sertap Erener's band — accused officials in Azerbaijan of mistreating him and unfairly ousting him from the country on arrival for a concert over the weekend. Bedikyan was forced to return to Istanbul and could not join his band. He insisted he was singled out and mistreated despite his Turkish citizenship, because he is a member of Turkey's minority Armenian community. Turkey had formally requested information on Bedikyan's allegations from Azerbaijan's Foreign Ministry, according to a Turkish Foreign Ministry official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of rules that bar civil servants from speaking to journalists without prior authorization. A similar request had been made with the Azerbaijani Embassy in Ankara, the official said. The ex-Soviet republics of Azerbaijan and Armenia are at loggerheads over the mountainous region of Nagorno Karabakh in Azerbaijan that has been under the control of Armenian and ethnic-Armenian forces since a 1994 cease-fire. The six-year separatist conflict killed about 30,000 people and drove about 1 million from their homes, including many of the region's ethnic Azeris. The region's final status remains unresolved and years of talks under the auspices of international mediators have brought few visible results Turkey has close ties to Azerbaijan, with which it shares an ethnic and linguistic heritage. It refuses to have diplomatic relations with Armenia because of Yerevan's unresolved conflict with Azerbaijan. Relations are further complicated over the World War I-era killings of Armenians. Armenians say that Ottoman Turks slaughtered 1.5 million Armenians in a planned genocide. Turkey vehemently denies that the mass killings were genocide, saying the death toll is inflated and Armenians were killed in civil unrest as the Ottoman Empire collapsed. http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/12/26/...an_Musician.php _________________ What a racist country! Azerbaijan ousted this musician despite his Turkish citizenship. I doubt Turkey would do anything about it either. Even the article talks of mere "allegations". I remember that a similar thing happened when a Bulgarian-Armenian sports commentator tried to go to Azerbaijan to assist a match between Azerbaijan and Bulgaria.

I'm not too familiar with this part of Armenian history, but I think that it was given to the Azeris by the Russians/Soviets as some kind of a deal. It wasn't of our own free will, and we weren't in power in order to counter it. If you're talking about the Seljuk conquest of Armenia, well, in 1045 Armenia was taken by the Byzantines and in 1064 when the Seljuks came, the Byzantines left Armenia without putting up a fight, so there was no organized entity left to defend it. If Armenians and Byzantines (who themselves were partly of Armenian origin) had given up their rivalries and had cooperated, history wouldn't have been the same. It doesn't really matter though... If we can't correct history we can still make it.

I agree, it would have been completely justified to attack Nakhichevan; I'm sure that the Armenian leadership considered it.

It's the Nintendo 64!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yjdW9_9AJM...ted&search=

Well in the Armenian alphabet, they usually say in the end "yev O, F" in order to put a separation between these 2 letters which were added later on, and the rest.

What if someday the US decides to invade Iran? Even though it's unlikely to happen now, the Americans would move to surround Iran, and the northern route that they'd use would be either from Armenia or from Azerbaijan. They'd be wise to use the Armenian mountains. Try to make the parallel with the Battle of Carrhae. Back then, the Roman general preferred not to use the Armenian route, and was thus massacred by the Persians while trekking through the desert. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Carrhae Anyway, America would probably choose oil booming Azerbaijan. The quick resolution of the Karabagh conflict would thus be in America's interests, as it would want the Armenians to at least give back the liberated territories that border Iran. The current president of Armenia, a Karabaghtsi himself, wouldn't support such a thing. It would thus be in America's interests to oust his government. Not that I would support it, of course...

There's a thread about this in Performing Arts section. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=15...mp;#entry183916

Yeah, but inchbes is with է because you can turn it into "inchbiszi"; Arpa explained it well. However, it's hard for a newcomer, as the language is very unique as you might have noticed. ե and է don't have any differences in pronounciation; both are pronounced "e" as in "hey". However, when ե is the first letter of a word, you pronounce it "ye" as in "yet". I hope I don't sound harsh. Where are you exactly from Korelyi? Arpa, the Georgian language isn't in a better situation, i.e.: gvprtskvni: "you peel us" gvbrdgvni: "you tear us"

Is belly dancing popular in Armenia? Even diaspora Armenians from the Middle-East don't do it as far as I know.

Pro-Washington power changes happened all over Eastern Europe and the Middle-East (i.e. Georgia, Ukraine, Lebanon, one of the Central Asian republics...) , so it's not hard to imagine one in Armenia.

The reason why the French abandoned us in Cilicia is that it was in their interests to mend closer relations with the new leader of Turkey, Ataturk. The Western Powers tried to bring him to their side, because they were worried that he would eventually join the Soviet Union. Now, there's no Ataturk, no Soviet Union. Edit: It was also Turkish lobbying that made the Soviet Union cede lands to Azeri Turks.

France, Russia, and other European nations might have betrayed us back then, but we were simply an ethnic group; we couldn't arrange treaties or reach commercial agreements. Now, the Western powers need to behave by taking in consideration that we're a sovereign state, equal in rights to them.

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According to Wikipedia's list of Armenian Catholicoi of Cilicia, Karekin II was Catholicos from 1977-1995 in Lebanon, and he became the Catholicos of All Armenians from 1995 to 1999 (became Karekin I). At the same time, in 1995, they elected Aram I. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholicoi_of_Armenia

I'm sure that both Churches support unity. However, if it were to be 1, which one would assume the leadership role? Both consider themselves legitimate. Logically, it should be the one in Echmiadzin, but I'm sure that there are many that think otherwise. Perhaps the one in Antelias should relocate to Armenia?

I don't think it's true. Arpa is parodizing the patriotic songs sung by Tashnags. But thanks for the description. Unfortunately, it seems that being separated is in the nature of Armenians ever since the small Armenian kingdoms of the Middle-Ages. The reason why it still continues is that the Armenian Catholicosate of Cilicia considers itself the direct descendant of the ancient Armenian Catholicosate, starting from S. Krikor Lousavorich. They think that when Bagratid Armenia fell in 1045, and Armenian sovereignty was reestablished in Cilicia, the Church leaders moved to Cilicia alongside the Armenian leadership. Moreover, the Catholicosate of Echmiadzin was recreated towards the 14th-15th century: http://www.armenianprelacy.ca/armchurch.htm I've heard that the pro-Communist Armenians would desecrate Antelias churches and assassinate Tashnag leaders. Is that true? Today, the 2 Catholicoi would intermittently visit Canada in order to reaffirm their sovereignty in the country. Moreover, the Cilician "side" thinks it's a better representation of what the Armenian Church used to be, and that it is more "pure", because the Catholicosate of Echmiadzin is affected by years of Communism.

I've heard that there is an American base on the top of Mount Ararat, the lights of which appear at night. Is that true?

SanVal, history and historic confrontations were recorded since the advent of cuneiform scriptures. Prior to that, I don't think that humans were capable of doing anything other than hurling rocks to each other.

SanVal, I didn't say that they did, I said they were supposed to. Doesn't matter. If the principles of a certain religion are largely based on peaceful behaviour, then that's what the followers of that religion should behave. SanVal, we're not talking about what the Armenians would have or wouldn't have done if they were the most militaristic and expansionist people of the Orient. We're talking about historical facts that could not be changed regardless of any wishful thinking, "if"s and "but"s. So whether or not Armenians would have massacred Turks if they were the overlords is irrelevant to the genocide debate.

There are around 20 million Kurds in Turkey in total[/], including in the regions outside of what might be taken by Armenia. There are Kurdish communities everywhere in Turkey, even in Istanbul and the rest of Western Turkey. Moreover, it is known that Kurds have a lot of children (probably around 8 per family), thus there are more Armenian families in Armenia than there are Kurdish ones in Eastern Turkey. And if Armenia gets those territories, it would be normal that the former inhabitants would want to leave. This is what happened when there was the risk of Quebec separating from Canada in 1995. Around 200,000 Anglophones and others left the province.

If Quebec becomes sovereign, Quebecers wouldn't want to segregate people along ethnic lines, because they would want to keep the "nation" united. Detaching people from the common identity in Quebec would in fact be in the interests of Canada. Yeah, Michaelle Jean did it to when she became Governor General.

I don't think that the birth rate of Quebec is relevant to whether or not Quebec is a nation. And yes, French-Canadians have an ample amount of culture. And if we're going to talk about statistics, we should take not of the fact that only 94 940 people identify themselves as Québécois in the province. http://www40.statcan.ca/l02/cst01/demo26f_f.htm