Teutonic Knight

Exactly!!!

I know many 1/2 Italian 1/2 Armenian people and each and every one of them are extremely good looking. I hope there are more inter-ethnic mixtures such as this.

Allegedly yes. I met several Armenians that claim to be Galacs. Galacs are supposed to be Galatians who were Armenianized. They speak a language that sounds like a mix of Grabar and Gaelic. Example: "heyr sirdes to galac mayr u elbayr...holund u odeir eir" Which means: love your ethnic mother and brother, descendants of your land. One of them posted here a few months ago but he got banned because of his insane dashnak partisan rhetoric.

Khorenatsi is the equivalent of todays Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell. A lunatic Judeo-Christian Zionist. He turned Armenian history into one big joke. Some of the lesser known historians are underrated.

For those of you who can't type in Armenian you may find this translit tool useful to convert Latin characters to Armenian: http://www.genocide.ru/translit/convert.html

Arpa is right. More than 60% of those have non-Armenian names. Any name ending with -ouni is not Armenian but Persian. One Armenian nobleman I argued with a while ago responded to this saying how do you know the Persians didn't take those names from Armenians Meliks(arabic)???? I mean come on. Armenianize first.

Why aren't the most important nobilities of Armenian origin such as the Phokades included? Or is your definition of an Armenian nobleman someone who has to be Persianized and non-Chalcedonian?

I agree with you. Also you live in Armenia so you're the only here with the right to comment on the border issue. Your site is great.

Give it a few more years. Those are artificial divisons which came about as a result of five centuries of occupation, Holocaust and deportation from your native land. Unity takes time. The more people work towards this goal, the sooner will it become a reality.

Not quite. You see I have German as well as other Germanic heritage but i'm American first and foremost. Just happen to be an Armenophile. I have my problems with both Germany and the EU which is a whole different topic so lets not go there in this thread. Feel free to make a thread about the EU and i'll jump right in. Armenia needs a lot more sacrificing now from both Armenians and those who wish to see Armenia back on its two feet again after 543 years of total occupation than any other European nation. I chose Armenia with my own free will.

There's no such thing as an East German. Hell that's not even used a geographic designation anymore. I never heard about any mass exodus from Germany. There aren't so many turds and kurds yet there. Germany is going to be extinct in a few decades anyway. German women want to remain single while the native population keeps dropping. Anyhow, don't go offtopic.

Good idea, since you're an American not Armenian. Identifying yourself as an Armenian instead of someone simply with Armenian heritage also displays disloyalty to the country of your citizenship, moreso if you were born here.

Yes. Posting on a public forum doesn't entitle you to any special cookie points.

Well i'm a foreigner myself, not a drop of Armenian blood. I got the apartment to live there, until I get there i'm going to rent it to whoever can afford it. Curently I'm investing money to open a business in Yerevan, hopefully by next summer. It's not. Otherwise don't call yourself an Armenian. Stick to being an American with Armenian heritage.

That's basically my problem with the so called patriots in the Diaspora. I don't undertsand why "Hyeforum people" are somehow of another sort though.

Middle Class is a requirement. It's been a little over a decade. We're getting there and already we have accomplished a lot more than newly formed countries like Greece a decade from 1829 or more recently Israel(and they got Swiss/German money and US handouts worth of trillions) a decade from 1948 in the same timespan.

I bought a flat on Amiryan for 40K and now rent it to foreign workers. Two of my close friends just opened a real estate business and they are making tons of cash as brokers.

Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country Funny thing, when I returned to Yerevan last summer the exact same people were complaining about not being able to find jobs from several years ago There are plenty of oppurtunities for everyone as long as you don't expect handouts and have the will you'll be fine.

Fair enough. "Separation of classes" as you put it is required for any healthy, free and democratic society. Laissez faire

Btw during my stay in Yerevan I was making 500 USD a month working for various NGO's. That's in 99. I was living a lot better than back home where I was getting paid 4500 a month for the same job+benefits.

Armenia: Anything You Want it to Be Shakeh Havan arrived in Armenia four years ago, with her two kids, and a plan to stay a year. So far, that year hasn’t come up. A manufacturing engineer by trade, Shakeh decided she needed a change, and felt like Armenia would be an interesting place to make it. “I didn’t come to Armenia just because I’m Armenian, it just ended up happening this way for me, and it’s comfortable here.” She first worked part time for the American Embassy, until the concept of opening a business came to her. “The environment really made what it needed apparent. Armenia doesn’t need, or even like handouts anymore. People don’t want donations, they want opportunities.” So, after looking around, Shakeh came up with an idea. “When I came, there weren’t many places that a single woman could go to relax with a cup of coffee, and feel comfortable.” So the idea of an indoor coffee-shop materialized. “In the beginning, the hardest thing was trying to come up with the name. That stalled me for a while, because before you can register for your permits, you have to have a name.” But, eventually she found it, and Artbridge was born. Art for the books, paintings, and works she wanted to display for sale throughout the location, and bridge for the connectivity that the coffee-shop atmosphere would provide. But was it an easy in today’s Armenia to transfer the idea of Artbridge into a tangible reality? Bureaucratically, she says, yes. “I didn’t have any problems getting my licenses. The expenses involved in starting a business in Armenia are almost ridiculously low, compared to Diasporan standards, and there is a wealth of intelligent human resources all over the country.” But what about the lingering accusations of governmental corruption? “Corruption here is crude. Nobody’s asking me for $100,000.00 to be transferred to an offshore account in return for my liquor license, or for 50% of my profits every month in order to stay open. Here, when you pick up your five-dollar license for whatever it is you want to sell, you leave another five behind in an envelope. It’s more of a tip than a bribe, especially because it’s done after the fact, and you have to remember, there’s no such thing as a service charge here.” In actuality, her biggest problem, she muses, was that “at first everyone thought I was crazy. People told me ‘nobody’s going to buy books, that will never work, and nobody’s going to sit in an indoor cafй, your chairs are too short, your music’s too low, your lights are too bright” and on and on and on. But a few months later, the bookstore was subsidizing the cafй, and seven months in, she was already making plans to expand the dining area. “Armenians are readers!” she says, “it’s always been in our culture.” And there’s no need to explain to Westerners the appeal of a comfortable place to relax, enjoy a nice cup of java, and diverse menu if you’re hungry. Shakeh’s attitude reflects a growing sentiment in the new non-native community within Armenian. It is a community of educated professionals from more westernized countries, who now live within an Armenia which finds itself emerging from the ominous shadow of the Soviet Union, and looking for opportunities to prove itself. And businesses like Shakeh’s, which employ retail clerks, waiters, chefs, and managers give locals a wide variety of opportunities to explore. “One of the most charming aspects of being a business owner here is knowing that you’re part of the development of the country.” And Shakeh and Artbridge are just that. “When I first started, I wanted to sell tickets to the cultural events that happen all around the city, but nobody had ever heard of such a thing. You either bought tickets from the box office, or you didn’t buy tickets. It’s not like the opportunity to provide such a service didn’t exist, I was just the first one to try to exploit it.” It worked, and three years later, ticket services, just like the one Shakeh started in her store, abound all over Yerevan, with some services even offering home delivery. “I love the fact that I have competition now. Competition is what drives an economy; it ensures that customers are getting the very best, because it forces people to sharpen their skills. I want to be the best at what I do, and I don’t know if I am if I have no competition.” Armenia’s development is also apparent in the slight changes in the bureaucracy since Shakeh started her business. “Back then they laughed when I asked if any zoning restrictions existed” she says. “I asked if they wanted to see pictures of my signs to make sure the colors were okay, and they couldn’t understand why.” Now, rules state that signs must display Armenian characters larger than any others, and ecological restrictions are in place to preserve sections of the city’s parks from construction. “The great thing about Armenia, is that it can be anything you want it to be. If you want to be bored, it can be boring, but if you want it to be an interesting and exciting place, the opportunities are out there, you just have to reach out and grab them.” http://www.armeniadiaspora.com/feature/index.html

You do realize for example you would be making much less in Canada for the same job you have here but you would have the same expenses and live the same life as the prices and living standards are different in each country. Everyone can find a job in Armenia. There are plenty of jobs for everyone. You're just afraid you wont make it there or might not even get accepted.

Maybe because of the same reason why I don't like you? Now you are giving excuses for excuses. The facts are fine, the context in which you bring it up is victim mentality.

You don't think you have the necessary skills do get a good job in Armenia?

That's a stupid victim mentality excuse. There is an accumulated total of almost two millenia of Armenian independence. What counts is the 543 years of TOTAL occupation as a result of which Armenians missed the industrial revolution, nationalism etc.