Anileve Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Didn't they do a poll after the debate? The percentage shifted by one percent after the debate. Before the debate: Bush 50% Kerry 46% . After the debate B 51%, K 47%. Interestingly enough, anyone who is familiar with NY demographics (Azat and Sasun), upper east side is pro bush, upper west side is pro Kerry. Upper east is composed of upper class, older crowd; Upper west is mainly young professionals and students. And Sasun jan, NJ is apparently a swing state, which is really sad considering that it's always been democratic. Not long ago, we were discussing elections and some guy from the Shoprite familiy said that he would vote for Bush because of health care and terrorism. For some reason they don't realize that by keeping Bush in the House would mean to provoke more hatred from the terrorists; I still can't believe his Israel remark "To secure Israel!" you know he was appealing to the jewish voters. Half of the Administration is jewish by the way, not that I have a problem with that, but their main responsibility is securing Israel. By all means possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Some of his coaches, or at least one of hem may have remembered how Gerald Ford blew his chances when in 1976 he debated that Poland was not under the influence of the Soviet Union. He never corrected himself, i.e. to mean that Poland was not part of the SU, only a sattelite. However he lost the election on that one slip. He may not have known better. But, it is curious that GWB made a point to mention Poland. I did no see th edebate. Did he pronounce the name of the country correctly? Or did he apply his "nukular" brain and call the country "Pooland" or some such? I also remember his father who addressed the president of the Czech Republic "Vaklav" (Vatslav Havel), and his every other word was "saaa-dum, saa-dum"". I guess now we know who the "sad..dum" is. style_images/master/snapback.png Interesting. He did pronounce it correctly, but the funny thing was when Kerry mentioned lack of alliances and only England came up. Bush sprinted and yelled with a glowing look on his face "And Poland you forgot Poland!" As if he was so happy that he remembered someone other than Toni Blair. I did think that he was bragging with all those leader's names, there was much emphasis placed on listing all of the leaders. I think his speech writer and his advisors focused on his weakest points and made him memorize a few important phrases. He seemed lost most of the time, and really thirsty at other times. His closing speech was polished, it was obvious he practiced it for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hytga Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 to me kerry seemed as they call him a "flip flopper" at one point he says he voted for sending troops to iraq, a few minutes later he says bush choose the wrong way. if he's man enough let him say that it wasn't only bush who choose the wrong way. bush on the other hand did not catch some instances as this one to point out directly the inconsistency of kerrys stand on iraq during the debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 I still have no idea who to vote for,it was so easy years ago...my father would fill out my booklet and send me on my way to vote ah so many things you miss after they are gone,and found so annoying when they were here...c'est la vie... ok here are my two cents...I seem to remember that Pres. Bush is better educated then Kerry,eventhough it looks like it's the other way around....I think he seemed like he was stumbling for the correct things to say yesterday only because he knows A LOT more then he has led on,as should be the case, and he must choose what is ok to say and what is not. Physically Kerry looks like he is in command,while the Pres looks like he should be in a truck with a beer in his hand and a shotgun on the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15levels Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 I will certainly feel sorry for the US and the world if the monkey will get another 4 years in the office. Especially because Bush is dumb enough to start messing with Iran. And he just want to make some more $$$ (for himself of course). Just watch Fahrenheit 9/11 of Michael Moore. I am not a US citizen but if I was - I would NEVER vote for Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Especially because Bush is dumb enough to start messing with Iran. And he just want to make some more $$$ (for himself of course). style_images/master/snapback.png I wouldn't think that Kerry is not gonna do anything about Iran, or that he will chnage the direction of U.S. foreign policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 I will certainly feel sorry for the US and the world if the monkey will get another 4 years in the office. Especially because Bush is dumb enough to start messing with Iran. And he just want to make some more $$$ (for himself of course). Just watch Fahrenheit 9/11 of Michael Moore. I am not a US citizen but if I was - I would NEVER vote for Bush. style_images/master/snapback.png I did watch Fahrenheit 9/11 and it made me realize that if you cut and paste bits and pieces of different things that took place over a long period of time you could make anyone look like anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 I did watch Fahrenheit 9/11 and it made me realize that if you cut and paste bits and pieces of different things that took place over a long period of time you could make anyone look like anything. style_images/master/snapback.png Yes good point... I have the video,but havn't watched it yet...those who saw it were impressed...but I keep reminding them it's like watching a Saturday Night Live skit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Kerry is heading Bush on the most recent poll by 3%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Kerry is heading Bush on the most recent poll by 3%. style_images/master/snapback.png Now it is the high time to "find" Bin Laden If they do that Kerry is done for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Kerry is heading Bush on the most recent poll by 3%. style_images/master/snapback.png There are hundreds of polls showing anywhere from 10 point lagging and 3 point lead for Kerry, I wouldn’t put much emphasis into the polls, there are made and conducted by special interest groups just to have an propagandistic agendas. The saying you don’t believe everything you hear on TV hasn’t caught up most of the American public, probably never will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 (edited) How about we make a bet if Bin Laden is going to show up real real soon...I've heard people saying that they already have him and are waiting right before the elections to announce that they caught him... it's really a sick twisted world we live in... like Ed said,every poll is influenced by whoever paid for it! it's all very twisted.... Edited October 2, 2004 by Maral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 How about we make a bet if Bin Laden is going to show up real real soon...I've heard people saying that they already have him and are waiting right before the elections to announce that they caught him... it's really a sick twisted world we live in... like Ed said,every poll is influenced by whoever paid for it! it's all very twisted.... style_images/master/snapback.png ok i'm up for it Tantig - on TAbule or somthing good ??? I say Khorovats at Ed's place kooked by Azat ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America-Hye Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 The polls show that the majority of American feel that Kerry won the debate. This is true for Republicans, as well as Democrats or independents. Furthermore the sons of two of the last four duly elected Republican Presidents, the senior military officer son of President Eisenhower, John Eisenhower, and the radio-show host biological son of President Reagan, Ronald Reagan Junior, have endorsed John Kerry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 How about we make a bet if Bin Laden is going to show up real real soon... style_images/master/snapback.png I would never ever believe that U.S. forces cannot catch a person (if he is not granted a political assilum in some powerful country). Guys, those people can see brandnames on your cigarette boxes from the space. Who would ever believe thay can't catch a guy in corrupt Afghanistan. It is just 1 billion bucks (and I am exagerating) to bribe everyone in Afghanistan to send Bin Laden in a gift box with ribbons though DHL (sorry Domino ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 en benladini ankedot@ lsel es che ? vor abaranstiner@ gnum em brnelu ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 en benladini ankedot@ lsel es che ? vor abaranstiner@ gnum em brnelu ? style_images/master/snapback.png Che, hla patmi. Te arden patmir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 en benladini ankedot@ lsel es che ? vor abaranstiner@ gnum em brnelu ? style_images/master/snapback.png nope we havn't heard...do tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Maral, I think he already did tell. Abaratsies searching for Bin Laden is already a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Abaratsies going on a searching for Bin Laden FBI has gave thema 3 picture of banladin front rear and side to side afetr 3 weeks Abarantsis contact FBI - Aloo -- gyada es araji 2in gtel enq n@kari miji, hima el #3in enq man galis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 good one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Commentary: Kerry wins in world vote By CLAUDE SALHANI United Press International October 12, 2004 Tuesday 9:21 AM Eastern Time VICTORIA, British Columbia, Oct. 12 (UPI) -- Given that the United States is a world super power, and that actions and policies taken by the American president can - and often do - affect the rest of the world, imagine if the rest of the world had its say in who was to be elected to the Oval Office. Imagine if the entire planet could vote in the upcoming November presidential elections. How different would the outcome be? Of course that will never happen (just as a foreign-born citizen can never become president). But what if it did happen? What if all citizens of the world were eligible to vote in the U.S. elections? How different would the outcome be if President George W. Bush and Sen. John Kerry had to contend for the support of the international community? What would be the implications? How different would the campaign be run? And more important, who would be the likely winner? Well, although this is an exercise in futility given that traditionally, even overseas ballots cast by expatriate Americans voting by proxy have never really counted for much in an election, votes by foreign nationals will count for even less. Yet regardless of where real politics stands on the issue of presidential elections, one ingenious Internet Web site has taken it upon itself to turn political fantasy into virtual reality. No matter where you live or what passport you hold, now you too can vote for the candidate of your choice in the November election. Of course your vote will not count for much, other than self-gratification, and the opportunity to let the rest of the world know how you stand on the issue, in the process giving your candidate some mental support. BetaVote.com, the brainstorm of Daniel Young and Kevin Frost, an information technology consultant, have set up a site allowing citizens of the world to partake in what is expected to be a very close election. Current polls in the United States show Bush and Kerry running neck-to-neck, with Kerry making some headway, particularly after the two presidential debates. A Zogby Interactive poll conducted last Thursday after the second debate placed Kerry ahead of President Bush in 13 of the 16 closely contested states. Kerry took ground in two states -- Ohio and Nevada -- and increased his lead in seven others. Bush's lead, meanwhile, narrowed in the three states -- Missouri, Tennessee and West Virginia -- placing him ahead of Kerry in those states. If the numbers projected by the Zogby poll this week were mirrored on Election Day, Kerry would be the winner and the next president of the United States. But the elections are still about three weeks away, and much can happen between now and then. The race for the presidency remains very tight and very close. However, the numbers from the rest of the world as shown on BetaVote.com project a very different view, where votes have been cast from 239 countries -- from Afghanistan (where Kerry leads 51 percent to Bush's 48 percent) to Zimbabwe (Kerry, 86 percent, Bush 31, percent) passing through Andorra, in Southwestern Europe, between France and Spain , one of the few countries where Bush leads with 53 percent (Kerry, 46 percent), Uzbekistan, (Kerry 87, Bush 12). As of Tuesday, Oct. 12, a grand total of 295,712 votes have already been cast, of which an overwhelming 88 percent voted for Kerry, leaving Bush trailing behind with 11 percent. A number of countries stand out for leaning heavily in favor of Kerry: Angola and Armenia, both give Kerry 75 percent and Bush 24 percent. Austria, the country from where a future Republican president might emerge if the Constitution is amended to allow California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger to run the highest office, voted heavily in favor of Kerry (94 percent), giving Bush only 4 percent. >>From tiny Belgium more than 29,000 votes were cast, also heavily in favor of Kerry (91 percent), Bush (8 percent). Brazil (Kerry, 95 percent) and Bulgaria (Kerry, 92 percent) also heavily favored the Democratic candidate. Oh, Canada: More than 15,000 votes were cast by the neighbor to the north, with most going to Kerry (95 percent) leaving Bush with a meager 4 percent. Among the highest to favor Kerry was Croatia with 96 percent voting for the Massachusetts senator, France and Greece each giving Kerry 95 percent of the vote. Germany gave Kerry 94 percent and Italy 88 percent. The most votes came from Finland, casting 32,885 ballots, of which 92 percent went to Kerry. Bush does have his supporters, however; Azerbaijan, Congo (Bush, 54 percent), Libya (Bush, 59 percent), Myanmar (Bush, 57 percent) and Nauru, (Bush, 61 percent). The African country of Niger favored Bush with an astounding 94 percent, as did the French territory of St. Pierre et Miquelon, off the east coast of Canada, allocating 62 percent of the 24 ballots cast to President Bush. It just goes to show that nothing is ever certain in politics. ------------ Whom are those 4% that I spank them, after all the st Bush has done against Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianjan Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 I can't wait till tonight's debate. That should be interesting. I think Kerry will win this one also. Considering that our current president, can't pronounce half of the words in the English language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 (edited) hoppaaaaa http://www.kefforkerry.com/ http://www.armenstock.com Edited October 15, 2004 by Edward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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