sev-mard Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Who the heck said the only day you should be pampered or you should pamper someone is on Valentiens Day anyways? jermak hokinyer, they are always starting some conspiracy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 SEV that was good one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Sasun if it was up to me I would move woman’s day to March 22nd the first day of spring, I think woman and blooming flowers and trees have much in common, As it starts to worm up the air is filed with smells of flowers and changing the river start flooding the valleys and crop lands, as it progresses into April its well spooned and life is starting to take place, by now you start seeing spring in a full action, changing the landscape and its getting ready to embrace what is about to come as know the circle of life. and once again, Life is on the way. Wow, Edward, that was beautiful! I'm impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 (edited) Who the heck said the only day you should be pampered or you should pamper someone is on Valentiens Day anyways? Never clamed you said that Maral. It's just a lot more special to me if the guy gives me those roses just because he loved me. Not because of a dumb holiday. Edited January 30, 2004 by ExtraHye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Yeah yeah yeah...let's see what mood you're in after you're in a serious relationship and a special day,any special day,comes and goes and he doesn't acknowledge it...talk to me then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Well i see there is a lot of malicious feelings about Valetine's by the members of this forum, and I'm glad to see that. I think the day sucks, partially because it's another commercialized jermark un-holyday that now is about money, and also that I've had horrible after horrible experiences most of my life with girls on this day. I've had some good one, but definately not many I must say that. It's like hit or miss, either you have good ones or you don't. Girls expect certain things, if you mess up, it's ruined. If you don't have enough money for what they want, it's ruined. And it's a semi-sexist holiday as guys usually get zero and girls ares supposed to get a lot! (sometimes, not all of course)Â When i was in Japan they had White Day, march 14th. On 'our' Valentines Day girls give gifts to their man, or who they are interested in, on White Day a month later guys do the deed. They have this in some others countries as well. What do you all think about that? What's worse is the millions of people who mindlessly follow this ritual like they are under mind control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 What's worse is the millions of people who mindlessly follow this ritual like they are under mind control. Yeah - just like washing and wiping up after ones self eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Yeah - just like washing and wiping up after ones self eh? Or washing and wiping after oneself from cleaning the dead body in the kitchen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 What's worse is the millions of people who mindlessly follow this ritual like they are under mind control. Well everything boils down to that. People think i'm a party pooper always telling them the 'truth' behind social 'customs' and obligations. Of course society is man made and we 'make' things to do and bring us together, but I hate stupid reasoing, illogic and obligations, which make up most of the 'days' we are supposed to celebrate. If me and my friends or me and my girl come up with something that holds true to us, i'm with that. I hate mindlessly following 'tradition', i'm sure you agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 I just don't understand, what is the big deal about the Valentine's Day? If you don't want to celebrate, that's fine. If you do but just don't feel like doing anything special and spending money, that's also fine. (Just taking a walk at a beach, let's say.) If you do want to celebrate traditionally in expensive restaurants, then it's also great. Why do we always have to complicate things saying that it's a conspiracy? In today's world when everyone is so busy (especially in the U.S. time flies by so fast) and barely has time to do anything "special" with loved ones, family, or friends, I think special holidays like this are great. It gives us an excuse to really plan something extraordinary that we wouldn't normally do due to lack of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 ANOUSHIK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyebruin Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Yeah yeah yeah...let's see what mood you're in after you're in a serious relationship and a special day,any special day,comes and goes and he doesn't acknowledge it...talk to me then  are you a therapist? she's only expressing her opinion you know and it makes a lot of sense too!! i guess we "young bitter single people" "don't know" what love and marriage are all about, huh? ---only a psychoanalyst or someone with A LOT of experience would know!! geeeeez! we're talking about a dumb holiday! let's STOP criticizing people!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 ANOUSHIK Thank you, Maral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Women usually contradict this argument by uttering the genius phrase: 'Every day is men's day!' I thought it was "every night -- or at least the nights that we do something (you know what)" http://queerhye.delri.net/amot1.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 If you don't want to celebrate, that's fine. If you do but just don't feel like doing anything special and spending money, that's also fine. eh, tell that to the millions of women who buy into that, and the millions of men who are so scared of their wives (or gfs - already?!? lol) that they don't dare to "ignore" that "special" day... oops, girls, don't attack me, ok? I'm talking in general, and there are very intelligent girls who don't buy into all that stuff (although it's nice to get a rose from your lover/partner every once in a while.. i guess..) Â as for the conspiracy thing -- i'm not sure if consumer manipulation could be considered a conspiracy. i think that's what Valentine's day is.(and many other such days too.. including Christmas -- btw, heh, i'm an atheist and i celebrate Christmas lol -- it's always good to get presents, eh? except that i never get anything ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Well everything boils down to that. People think i'm a party pooper always telling them the 'truth' behind social 'customs' and obligations. Of course society is man made and we 'make' things to do and bring us together, but I hate stupid reasoing, illogic and obligations, which make up most of the 'days' we are supposed to celebrate. If me and my friends or me and my girl come up with something that holds true to us, i'm with that. I hate mindlessly following 'tradition', i'm sure you agree. Indeed. It's not so much "tradition" it's more of a mass marketed consumer holiday. Certain traditions, regarding just a couple, a family, or a culture, I don't mind. Consumer holidays are not confined to this, are just crap. I hate Valentine's day. God damn mindless robots. I wanna burn a flower shop now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 HYEBRUIN,maybe I am a therapist...why are you being so sensitive about what I said anyways...I was just expressing my opinion...it's really not my issue if you took it as criticism...maybe you should look into why you reacted that way... ok so I am a therapist,sue me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 HYEBRUIN,maybe I am a therapist...why are you being so sensitive about what I said anyways...I was just expressing my opinion...it's really not my issue if you took it as criticism...maybe you should look into why you reacted that way... ok so I am a therapist,sue me girls, girls, calm down!! valentine's day is not worth fighting over, jesus christ.. lol. more love, less hatred lol.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 (edited) Don't worry Dan there isn't any fighting going on here,well not on my side at least,dont' have control over other people's reactions.... I guess some people just excpect everyone to agree with what they say and come apart at the seam when they realize there are other opinions or realities out there...well they shouldn't be posting or reading public forums huh??? Â Â oh darn...more love,more love,more love Edited January 31, 2004 by Maral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 I guess some people just excpect everyone to agree with what they say and come apart at the seam when they realize there are other opinions or realities out there...well they shouldn't be posting or reading public forums huh??? I donno about that Maral jan, but -- hyebruin is one of the most open-minded and respectful people on this board when it comes to others' opinions. Maybe you 2 are misunderstanding each other. I don't know. And not gonna discuss that over here, but I suggest that you do talk about it.  oh darn...more love,more love,more love ahh yes, as you said!! :wub: http://armenians.com/forum/style_images/1/icon12.gif http://armenians.com/forum/style_images/1/icon12.gif  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 (edited) Dan , maybe you're right...so I'm done here then. Whether you guys agree with it or not,I wish you all a Happy Valentines Day and hope that you find someone very very special to make you want to spoil them and to be spoiled by them on that day and every other day of the year  I will be having a birthday party for 2 of my daughters on that day and celebrating everyone who has a birthday in February and is with us that day and everyone will get a goody for Valentines Day Edited January 31, 2004 by Maral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted January 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 On valentine's day, I will be egging everyone I see with flowers or heart shaped chocolates.  It's not that I've been "hurt by love", I just don't like conformists that move to whatever tune is being played by popular culture and consumer holidays. I won't get anyone anything for Valentine's Day. And besides how many of you really know about St. Valentine anyway? It's a shame that people actually fall victim to this mindless stunt that is mass marketed to the masses. Those that criticize it get things such as "You're just jealous you don't have a Valentine!" and people feel bad because they don't have a "Valentine", and all because of a fake holiday. Just another attempt for some one to "prove" their love for someone else by dinenrs, movies, roses, and chocolates. I love hearing about break ups on Valentine's Day. Make's you value the fact that you aren't bogged down in a materialistic relationship. Playstations never break up with you. Only you can break up with them. well, this was the reason i started the thread...because thats what i believe too...the only reason i would ever like valentines day would be if i had someone and i was trying to make people know how we felt for eachother...well im glad i dnt have anyone because ive realized that valentines day is a biut overrated...and that no matter what, whether valentines day oir not, i would love it if the person im with showed me he loved me through words and actions...not materials... , anyway, i believe that there is no need to go buy someone 200 roses or chocolates....what is better is 200 kisses and spending time together...in a t shirt and jeans ...watching tv and cuddling awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww man o man o man... never mind.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted January 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 jermak hokinyer, they are always starting some conspiracy! sevoolik oolik jan... ure 2 cute jermakneer jermakneer..la la la la la ....on a one horse open slay...im in the christmas spirit!! screw valentines day..lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 Yeah yeah yeah...let's see what mood you're in after you're in a serious relationship and a special day,any special day,comes and goes and he doesn't acknowledge it...talk to me then Granted I haven't had a "serous" relationship, but I have had relationships. It just felt a lot more special when he got a rose just because he wanted to, not because he had to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maral Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 Extra,they all do that in the beginning,after a while they have to be reminded! Or forced sometimes!But I must admit that is not fun at all,if I have to ask for it,it loses the gesture.I know I know men are going to say they are not mind readers,but if they know someone ,really know someone, or pay attention they will know what to do When we were engaged my husband always took me to nice restaurants and did things just because...the day we rented our first apartment he took me to McDonalds for lunch!We had never stepped foot in a fast food place all the time we were dating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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