Valantina Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 This situation has not Happened to me "im single lool" and i Hope it wont happen to anyone eles But unfortunatly it happened to someone i know and i would appreciate your thoughts on it This couple were together for long time and were about to get married! one week before the marriage, the stepsister of "Bride-to-be" went to her CRYING,.. DEVISTATED and told her that the man she was about to merry was coming on to her and forced her into sleeping with him <_< !!! When the "Bride-to-be" was SHOCKED and COMPLETELY LOST!!! she went so ANGIRLY and UPSET to her fiancee and told him IT WAS OVER!!, BUT he insisted into telling her that was a LIE? and it wasnt trut!!! Who do you think she should've choosed to believe first ? After Problems and seperations and all that ... the Stepsister came CRAWLING back for forgivness and confessed that was a LIE, just coz she was Jealous of her and jealous of the wonderful relationship she had! and she wouldnt be happy for her , so she ruin it for her ! Do you think that the Fiancee should NOT or should forgive his "Bride-to-be" for not Believing in him and NOT trusting him ? or should he get revenge of her <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 He should never forgive her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 What an insecure bride to be. I'd toss her out the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 why so guys, if they were really doin good in there relationship, then the bride to be should be forgived,, infact i think this would be a good thing for there future, because the bride would have more trust now in the groom, the only thing would be for her to win the groom heart back, and im sure that wouldnt be too hard.. So i thin he should forgive her, and that she will realize how much he did care about her... The brrom might fell bummed, but dont be harsh, dont throw away all the good times so quick!... my 2 cents+3=4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 hey there anonymouse-- ur avatar is really in dire need of a haircut--butr i gotta admit it look really hott the bugg eyes are reallybeing downplayed by the hair yah know if onkly u could spike it up a bit and put on some sunglasses itll catch the attention of some major babes lol u are a major hilarious malarious hahaha person ! keep it up dude who knows ull probably win thoth's love....hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 i dont think that a persona can be pressured into doing something they have to have some desire in order to do such a thing--except in the case of rape---shes not a true friend then--besides the fiance is also to blame-- theyre both to blame! i wouldnt forgive any if neither of them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hye_Acher Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Do you think that the Fiancee should NOT or should forgive his "Bride-to-be" for not Believing in him and NOT trusting him ? or should he get revenge of her I might be wrong but people who are suppose ably in love don’t take revenge on their loved one's... and if he really loves her (which I think he does because they were so close to spending rest of their lives together) then he should be able to understand where she is coming from and I think he would’ve done the same…. but also ……. What if this incident happened after the wedding day??? does that mean she was going to run to divorce court and divorce her husband?????????? I think both of them are wrong but if they truly love each other then they should be able to over come this obstacle… Anyway, like I said I might be wrong…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 not a big fan of family revenge matters.. lol... i don't think i'd forgive the person who lied, although i would understand the position of my fiancee, because, after all, it's a dilemma as to who she should've believed... i'm not sure if i'd forgive her though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valantina Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Thank you all for the reply ... As for anoushik and Anonymouse why do you feel that strongly "He shouldnt forgive her?" <_< de you guys have any sort of explainations for suggesting that ..or .... THANKS all again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 They should both forgive each other and turn on the lying step-sister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 As for anoushik and Anonymouse why do you feel that strongly "He shouldnt forgive her?" <_< I believe that if someone doesn't trust people, they shouldn't be trusted themselves. When I trust someone in a certain situation is because I know that if roles were reversed that person could very well trust me. Do I make sense? I don't really know how to explain it. Especially in this situation, if she can easily believe that her fiance could be unfaithful to her, for me it signals that she has the potential of someday being unfaithful to him (even if she doesn't necesserily believe it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 (edited) Thank you all for the reply ... As for anoushik and Anonymouse why do you feel that strongly "He shouldnt forgive her?" <_< de you guys have any sort of explainations for suggesting that ..or .... THANKS all again Well if she is an insecure bride to be, I wouldn't be with her in the first place, since I am assuming I would know the person for a few years and knowing how insecure or secure they are. As far as real betrayal of trust, I won't forgive. If they do it once, they are destined to repeat it. To predict the future behavior of someone, look at the past, at least criminal psychologists do. Most people don't change. Thus by forgiving them, it becomes an accepted and imprinted thing in their mind, that they can do that, and get away with it. Once you betray my trust, you better leave or face the hacksaw. Edited January 18, 2004 by Anonymouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Thus by forgiving them, it becomes an accepted and imprinted thing in their mind, that they can do that, and get away with it. Once you betray my trust, you better leave or face the hacksaw. I believe it is a case-by-case thing, as long as you can know the people well enough and can judge/weigh their actions. Some people are not their wits all the time, but even if they keep up, not to be abusive but to be as pathetic because they get emotional supply out of it, even that strains one's nerves. In the case of the question at hand, however, I would make the liar suffer, hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valantina Posted January 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Thank you for the Explinations But i feel like something is missing in ur replies anoushik and Anonymouse Dont forget that we are all humans and none of us is perfect if you dont find it in ur hearts to forgive, then how would you expect Others to forgive you <_< ? I understand that there is no Worse Pain than to be betrayed or being lied to! You would feel like ur whole world have fallen apart, But as a Christains we have grown up to ForGive and Love i believe life is too short to hold any sort or anger or hate in ur heart! here iam today posting this Message, God knows where i will be tomorrow! u know what i mean ! So i guess all iam saying is, dont let ur anger or hate control u, it is not worth loosing someone is ur life who could be realy good to u! that is what i believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Valantina, it's not fair what you're doing. For this specific case I think that the bride should not be forgiven, but in general I'm a very forgiving person. You can't generalize like this. First of all, the story is very unbelievable. The stepsister claims she was forced to have sex. Was she raped? If she was, why didn't she report it? If she wasn't raped then if there was an affair that means that the sex was consensual. Well, did it really happen? The stepsister claims it did while the groom denies it. Now it becomes a matter of who should the bride trust. I think we all develop a sense of what kind of characters people around us have. If the stepsister has the ablility to lie in such a horrible way I think the bride should more or less know whether to take her stepsister seriously or not. An honest, loyal, compassionate person would never lie about this, and if she was in fact honest and loyal, then the bride should have believed her. But as evident in the end, she was lying. She could never have been an honest person from the beginning. Unless they recently became stepsisters and the bride didn't have the chance to get to know what kind of person the stepsister is, she should know the stepsister's personality. Well, if she knew the stepsister's personality, she would never have believed her in the first place. If she didn't know, that means she didn't know her stepsister well enough, so how could she take her word over her fiances? Well, maybe she was so insecure is because she didn't know her fiance well enough also, so really, they shouldn't have thought about marriage in the first place, because they don't know each other and they don't trust each other. So in this case I think the groom should not forgive his bride. Please, I want to know why you think in this case the groom should forgive his fiance, other than we should forgive everyone? But then again, if that's all you believe is fine, I'm happy for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 guys but remember that for this case, the bride was lied to by a close friend,, now this plays a big role in her decision... So the poor bride was screwed over really... I mean anoushik, imagine ur very bestest friend come to u and tell you wiht much good acting that ur groom to be was cheating on you and blah blah blah.. im sure you would be very angry, and prbably do what this gal did... i mean, it was the brides fault not beleiving the guy, but she thought her bestest friend wouldnt lie to her... and anonymouse, lol.. shame on you then,, women will fool you more than 2wice.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Women will only fool me once. Only janitors will fool me twice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Gevo, did you read my post? I won't write the same thing twice. Please read my post, because in there you'll see that there is no way that my best friend will commit such a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 This relationship was not meant to be. My choice would be forgive her insecurity and lack of trust and look for another bride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Well, sasun your right also, but the point is i think they should forgive... or he should forgive her... they dont have to get married still... But Anoushik jan, i read ur post, but humans are filled with a superflous amount of jealousy,.... How can you be sure your best friend wont do that.. I personally know best friends murdering eachother for one getting better grades,,, and other dumb dumb things.. its sad,, but it almost human nature... >>jelousy i mean , not to kill... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 the stepsister could just easily threaten the groom if he was really forcing her to have sex with him? maybe she told the bride the “truth” then the groom made her go back and say that she was lying… could this be true or do i watch movies too much? lol anyway, anoushik no matter how well you know someone you still don’t know them well enough until you spend your whole life with them…but then again you still wouldn’t really know them well enough! your own best friend can turn out to be you worst enemy because best “friends” no matter how nice they be will envy you in the end! your own sister can envy you let alone some best friend. think true friends are really hard to find… and about “if someone doesn't trust people, they shouldn't be trusted themselves” that’s not really true… i don’t trust many people but i can be trusted…or at least i think i can… but again it depends on what kind of secret it is and who you’re telling anyway the bride should be forgiven because like everyone knows men are dogs and can not be trusted j/k but yeah she shoulnd't have believed everything her stepsister said... especially a week before the wedding. bad stepsister! so everyone makes mistakes and if this happened to me... i would forgive my fiance but if it happened again i'd kick him out. but this might make her trust her husband too much who would take advantage of it and cheat on her thinking she trusts him and would never believe he'd cheat on her... im confused lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectra Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 the stepsister could just easily threaten the groom if he was really forcing her to have sex with him? maybe she told the bride the “truth” then the groom made her go back and say that she was lying… could this be true or do i watch movies too much? lol anyway, anoushik no matter how well you know someone you still don’t know them well enough until you spend your whole life with them…but then again you still wouldn’t really know them well enough! your own best friend can turn out to be you worst enemy because best “friends” no matter how nice they be will envy you in the end! your own sister can envy you let alone some best friend. think true friends are really hard to find… and about “if someone doesn't trust people, they shouldn't be trusted themselves” that’s not really true… i don’t trust many people but i can be trusted…or at least i think i can… but again it depends on what kind of secret it is and who you’re telling anyway the bride should be forgiven because like everyone knows men are dogs and can not be trusted j/k but yeah she shoulnd't have believed everything her stepsister said... especially a week before the wedding. bad stepsister! so everyone makes mistakes and if this happened to me... i would forgive my fiance but if it happened again i'd kick him out. but this might make her trust her husband too much who would take advantage of it and cheat on her thinking she trusts him and would never believe he'd cheat on her... im confused lol kick him??? I can say you got Mshetsu blood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 well, skittles jan etencell finaly ban chasetsir.. lol. but you braught up good true points,,, its almost like,,, "youll never know for sure" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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