Sasun Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Ummm, Ara, how would people know a girl has lost her virginity if she doesn't tell? How is that a hindrance to her future marriage if she doesn't tell? Or is there some kinda way of telling -- lol, I don't know about such things!! Dan, if you find a japanese flag in the morning that's a sure sign of a virgin, if not then you are out of luck (sorry, I don't mean to be graphic, but I would hate Dan to be clueless ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 shame on you sasun j/k but not necessarily lol hey Dan it's not a myth it's just an excuse for non-virgin women... btw didn't you do biology at school?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Skittles, for every woman it's different. For some women nothing happens for the first time and never will, and for some women it's very clear that she is a virgin. Not every woman is alike biologically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 anoushik i know that... but... ah i don't wanna write about it... too "graphic". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AraManoogian Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Not that the subject is about how to determine if someone is a virgin or not, but here it’s not so much a matter of if one can produce a Japanese flag or not. It’s about if someone has had sex with a guy or not and when you live in such a small place as Karabagh, you could have sex in the morning in Martuni and by lunchtime word has reach Shushi. Another thing that people think here is if your going to be the mother of ones children, you want that girl to be “clean” and “moral”. Not to say the guy is not sleeping around with every girl he can get his hands on even after the new wife is pregnant, since this is a mans world and supposedly it’s natural and acceptable to act this way. As for if there will be a painful sensation and blood the first time to prove ones virginity. Here that really does not prove anything since I have heard from quite a few people that there is a doctor in Mardakert that does a stitching job that can transform a women back into a girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 As for if there will be a painful sensation and blood the first time to prove ones virginity. Here that really does not prove anything since I have heard from quite a few people that there is a doctor in Mardakert that does a stitching job that can transform a women back into a girl. yeah i've heard many girls do that in yerevan... if the guys didn't demand the girl to be a virgin there would probably be no virgins here most girls are afraid no one will marry them... so they remain virgins or should i say "virgins"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 if the girl isn’t virgin because she slept with her boyfriend/fiancé (was in “love”) then they broke up or if she was raped it does not mean she's a slut… come on now! Armenian guys will pay to sleep with whores but won't marry a non-virgin but clean girl?? then girls shouldn't marry at all because God knows with what they might infect us! i wonder what it'd be like if we left our boyfriends/husbands because we found out they'd had a gf/s in the past and slept with her...what would they do then? go abroad to find “clean” girls? or kidnap and rape us perhaps? and if they think true Christian Armenian girls should be pure it means the guy has to be clean as well or if he’s not he shouldn’t diss the girl… they don’t even try to understand… oh and many think you don’t really need “love” or to get to know the person at first to get married because all you need is a “virgin” girl who will make babies for you or a good guy who doesn’t smoke, drink and likes to work hard…oh yeah their background (and sometimes relatives) counts big time. so if you want a pure girl from Armenia think about it first... i think people should marry someone they love and trust instead of going back in history and fretting about the past and what their mom will think about the girl if there’s no “Japanese flag” the next morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jend Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Come on, I live in Yerevan and I spend enough time in different parts of Armenia like Sevan and Goris. There will be always someone demanding pure virginity (even without kissing) but the overall situation is not so bad at all I think the problem not in guys, but in parents. Just remember mothers telling their daughters that to keep virginity is a vital necessity, because without it nobody will marry. And that's how guys have this perception of a clean and good girl. None presumes they have to be "clean", even more they have to see everything So I don't think it is fair to blame the guys. Girls even don't try to explain the situation or fight, they just remember this phrase and that's it! Fortunately, nowadays the girls understand more the situation and there is no bloody vengeance for being not a virgin anymore. I don't know anyone from my friends who got married being a virgin. So, I think you exaggerate a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 of course, Sasun, i do know that... but the "hymen" can be torn without having had intercourse lol... so there's no sure sign of whether or not a girl is a virgin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 yeah i agree...it's also because of the parents... but here they don't really teach about sexuality much (neither do they at school...most kids skip school anyway) and most girls i know say their parents are too embarrassed to talk about it... some 17-18 year old girls don't even know what a condom is... wait but then how do they lose their virginity if they have no idea about such things? lol ok now i'm confused! does that mean the guys force them to do it? or convince them or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I'm surprised that Dan ignores that, Dan, what have they teached you on your sexuality courses in high school. i don't know -- i guess i just fell asleep during those classes - i wasn't interested in these things in high school... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Yes, the hymen can be broken in the weirdest of ways. I read a post from a guy whose mother back in her young days in Iran had a Persian friend who broke it while horse-back riding one day. She decided not to marry because no Persian man would take it well when the morning following the nuptual night there was no Japanese flag. All that said, some ladies' can be broken more than once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 She decided not to marry because no Persian man would take it well when the morning following the nuptual night there was no Japanese flag. "japanese flag" a classic statement. It's always different. I know of virgins who didn't bleed the first night. But bled later........? I mean like waaay later, you can never tell. I don't by into popular opinon on purpose, too easy to get into trouble. I'm not a ho, so I don't want a ho, but i'm not looking for virgin girls per se. Realism is the key, and equality. So don't go looking for virgins, if you're not one yourself. Chavuanism must die...sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Chavuanism must die... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheekY Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 how do you tell if a man is a virgin or not? can you tell? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I think you can tell by his 'singing speed'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 lol... i don't think you can tell -- unless if you got a STD or he told you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 She decided not to marry because no Persian man would take it well when the morning following the nuptual night there was no Japanese flag. All that said, some ladies' can be broken more than once. all this talk about japanese flags is making me go ---> http://64.21.83.54/forum/style_images/1/icon8.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I think you can tell by his 'singing speed'. lol, no you can't. i thought it varied from one person to another..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 It’s about if someone has had sex with a guy or not and when you live in such a small place as Karabagh, you could have sex in the morning in Martuni and by lunchtime word has reach Shushi. :lol2: wow, such a small world, eh? it's like that here in the Armenian community... people have a way for knowing/spreading word, which i don't understand.... don't know if it's an Armenian thing or just in general.... wierd... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I think you can tell by his 'singing speed'. No, because sometimes I might just be "out of shape" as I like to say. Got to have regular exercise your you lose your ability to "hold a note for long periods of time" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 No, because sometimes I might just be "out of shape" as I like to say. Got to have regular exercise your you lose your ability to "hold a note for long periods of time" ROTFL Great one Sev! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 (edited) Don't get me wrong when i'm in shape, I'm Pavarotti......... Edited January 9, 2004 by sev-mard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I had a boyfriend who sang four songs in six hours. Also have experienced one long song, except at the end the last ten or so seconds were done twice, non-stop - you'd think you had a broken record. gasp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I had a boyfriend who sang four songs in six hours. Also have experienced one long song, except at the end the last ten or so seconds were done twice, non-stop - you'd think you had a broken record. gasp :lol2: the way you said it is HILARIOUS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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