Urartu

[ARARAT KID]

some nations not all....more so the Turks. in times of Urartians the Turks of Turkey did not exist. they were bunch of tribes living in caves and ground holes somewhere in Asia.

 

this is Pan-Turkism in action.......laughable. Actually this is good, it only shows their stupidity and ignorance to the rest of the world. soon they will claim to have given the world the first civilization and then we can laugh some more.

 

one thing they invented for sure is GREASE WRESTLING.......i can't think of anything else.

 

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no its true that turks weren't living at the time of urartians but turks are all descendents of mongols and turkmen from central asia

[Hellektor]

no its true that turks weren't living at the time of urartians but turks are all descendents of mongols and turkmen from central asia

The Turkish virus originated in a relatively small part of western Mongolia. The oldest references to this plague comes from Chinese annals dating back 3400 years recounting the raids of a certain bloodthirsty Hsiung-Noun from the Tu-Kiu tribe (I don't know any Chinese but they say since there's no "R" sound in that language, the tribe might have been called Turkiu). Back then they were the same barbarians they are today. Don't forget that the Great Wall of China was built to keep them away.

 

So they invaded westward and by the sixth century they spread like cancer to the west and they exterminated the Turanians, the inhabitants of Central Asia who were Iranian in race but not as developed as the people in Iran proper. The similarity between the words Turk and Turan has helped them fool the world that they are Turanians whereas that's thick baloney.

 

It's a pity no one thought of building a wall to the west. However, the Darband fortress kept them away as long as the Sassanids were in charge in Iran. This doesn't mean there were no incursions but apart from the invasions of the confederation of the Huns, that was not composed of only Turkic tribes they didn't have much success in imposing their rule and what remained from them was the name Hungary.

 

Then came the Arabs who destroyed the Sassanid Empire. Later, after the weakening of the Caliphate and the Byzantines the Oghuz Turks descended like pestilence in the 11th century and annihilated what was left of the Persian and Byzantine Empires... Armenia was also crushed under their paws and claws and the rest is bloody history.

 

http://www.rozanehmagazine.com/NoveDec05/Pic14--TurkExpand.gif

 

Chronology of the spreading of the Human Civilization-deficiency Virus better known by the four-letter word Turk

 

[Zartonk]

It's a pity no one thought of building a wall to the west.

 

If only...

 

We might need to dabble a bit into alternate history nerdom.

[Arpa]

The following was posted under Mythology;

There is quite a bit about Urartu/Urashtu.

 

http://www.angelfire.com/hi/Azgaser/AR.html

 

ASTUAS

 

Astuas(Astvats-arm.) is also one of the most ancient deities of the Armenian people. This name is so old, that even though in later times, due to various circumstances such as the adoption of foreign dieties in Armenia, it ceased to be a proper name, rather than disappearing in oblivian, however, it was preserved in the Armenian language as a common noun, and is the most commonly used name for God in Armenian lexicon.

In the last century a number of scholars, under the influence of the false hypothesis that assumed Europe to be the homeland of the parent Indo-European(Caucasian)language, have tried to connect the Armenians with the Thraco-Phrygians. (In this effort they were swayed by certain cultural similarities that could have existed between the latter and the Armenians living in the neighboring Hyeasa-Tarhigama region in Eastern Asia minor.)

 

Lead by this "migration" theory and based on interpretations of certain old sources accomodated to it, they have made the Armenian word Astuas derive from the name of the Phrygian deity Savazios.

 

Not mentioning for the moment a series of evidences that contradict this, the derivation of Astuas, from Savazios becomes immensely difficult even on phonetic grounds:to make the first syllable change from 'sav' to 'astu' is purely arbituary and baseless. We believe that, as mentioned earlier, the divine name Savas(ios), like the Greek Zeus, is linked to the name Sibis(Siwini)-Sabas(In the Ugarit inscriptions we find, as already mentioned, Sapas (or Sabas) instead of the Eblaite or Sibis), whereas the Armenian Astuas, which comes from very remote antiquity, has no relationship at all with Savaz(ios).

 

The Astuas of the Armenian people was a deity of fire. This divine name (Astu-as) is a Nairian(Armenian) word and it is not unlikely that in the remote past it may have been connected to the Assyro-Babylonian word Isatu which meant 'fire'. Astuas, as the principal national deity of the Armenians (Hayk-Haldi), was the greatest of all gods ans as the father of all was elevated to heaven.

 

In the Achaemenian period the Armenians adopted Ahura-Mazda,who replaced Astuas in the Armenian pantheon, but by changing the name Ahura to Ara, the name of their national god, they armenianized him and called him Ara-mazd(Aramazd), reserving the name Ormizd to the real Ahuramazda adopted from the Pahlavi forms Hormizd and Ormizd.

 

During the Hellenistic period, introduced in Armenia by the Artashessian dynasty, Astuas became identified with "Dios-Zeus,the father of gods,the creator of heaven and earth," and when Christianity came, he was identified with Jehovah as the heavenly father and the creator of all things.

 

It seems natural that in Armenia, after the days of Urartu, when Astuas would cede his place successively to Aramazd, Dios-Zeus, and Jehovah, the name Astuas would cease to be a proper name and would be retained in the language merely as a common noun for God.

 

The name Astuas (Astu-as), as the name of native deity of fire is connected with the word -astu-(fire) which is commponent of Ur-astu(=Ur-Artu), the name of the country(Urartu/Hurartoon), and Asti-sat, the name of the city that was the greatest religious center of fire(sun)-worshipping Armenia.

 

This sanem name Astu-as is also encountered in the divine names Unag-astuas and Astupini(Astu-pinu), belonging to Hyeasa and Subarians, respectively. It is clear, therefore, that the attempt to derive the Armenian Astuas from the Phrygian Savazios, as well as the 'migration' hypothesis of the Armens, must be considered as outdated misconceptions.

 

The component -astu- of the name Astuas (or Astu-as) is a dialectal variant of the component -artu- of the name Ur-artu, with -r>s- transition. It follows, then, that Astuas is just a variant of the name Haldi-Aldi or Ardi(Artu>Astu) and is equivalent and synonymous to it.

 

The form -artu-(Ur-artu) as a variant of -astu- (Ur-astu)is not an uncommon occurence in Armenian. In some Armenian dialects -s- replaces -r- before dental plosives. For example, in the Hamshen dialect the word -mardik-(people) is pronounced as -masdik-, and -kertan- is pronounced as -geston-; in the Hadjen dialect, -kert'ayi>gasti(both meaning 'to leave'); in the Nakhijevan dialect, -mard>mast- and -morti>mosti(both meaning 'skin'), etc.

 

Evidently,in the Behistun inscriptions,writing Ur-astu, instead of Ur-artu, was not a scribal error; it existed in the speech of the people. A futher evidence is supplied by the name Tstuni(erstu-ni)which preserves the memory of Urastu(=Urartu). All these confirm that the name Ur-astu contains the divine name Astu(as).

 

It was already shown above, on different occasions, that the name Ardi ('sun') had a variant in the form of Arti (or Artu)which, with -rt The Armenian language has a number of words formed with -atr-,such as -atrasek-('atr-a-sek'=red as fire) and -atrasikanal-('atr-a-sikanal'=to turn red as fire) that have their parallel forms as -artasek-(art-a-sek) and -atrasikanal-(art-a-sikanal).

 

To write -art- instead of -atr- is not a scribal error either, since we know that, in reality, the name -Ura-atri- had also a variant in the form of -Ur-arti (or Ur-artu). The -astu-(fire) form of the word -artu- or -atr- should be compared not the Pahlavi -atur-(Avestan atars)but, as already stated, with the Accadian word -isatu-(fire).

 

In the times of Assyria and Urartu, Armenia was a land of active volcanoes with a number of peaks in the Lake Van region, such as the -Uruatri- mountain (Mt.Djuti), the Nemrut, the Varag and the Tondurak, erupting periodically.

 

Mount Nemrut's famous crater was active until the 1440s and Tondurak, still smoking, is not completely extinct. The entire are that surrounded it was called by the Assyrian kings -Uruatri-(later Urartu), which literally means 'place of fire'.

 

The -astu-isatu- connection becomes more intelligible if we keep in mind that the series of names we considered, -Uruatri-Urardi-Urartu and Urastu, are merely different forms of the same name given to Armenia by the Semitic Assyro-Babylonian kings of the south, because for them, that land of active volcanoes was just a 'land of fire'.

 

This is why the form -Ur-astu- in the Accadian text of the Behistun(arm.means 'home of Behis')inscription was more intelligible than the form -Ur-artu: the actual name of the country in question was derived from the name Ar(Ara) and was called Armani or Armeni, which meant, as was shown earlier, 'sons of Ar' or 'the land of the sons of Ar'; hence, the name -Ur-astu utilized in the Akkadian version of Behistun inscription is the direct translation of the name Armina(Armenia) of the Persian original.

 

The only difference in the meanings of the names Armeni and Urartu was that while the former designated it as the land of the sons of the local god ('the sons of Ar'), the second meant merely the land of the local god('land of fire')

 

In the light of what has been said above about the Armenian divine name Astuas, it becomes obvious now that it could not have originated from the Phrygian Savazios, a name (Savaz-ios) which appears rather to be connected to Zeus The name Astuas is already encountered within the name Ur-astu(Ur-artu)and in the divine names Unag-astuas of Hyeasa and Astu-pinu of the Subarians. And since the Semitic world has preserved a synonymous and homophonous word, -isatu-, meaning 'fire', then the source of all these must be looked for in the land of Subartu, whose god Astupinu has already been referred to above.

 

In conclusion, refering to the divine names Hyek(Hayk=Haldi), Ara (=Ardi) and Astuas (=Astu-as), we can say that Hyek(Hayk), the national deity of the Armenians, having in the beginning powers over animal (hunting)and vegetal(agriculture)domains, has developed a fiery nature and evolved into a sun-god and war-god.

 

His powers as a god of vegetation and, later, as sun-god, were represented by Ara, whereas his powers on the animal world and on fire were symbolized by Astuas. These two, Ara and Astuas, have been combined in Haldi, who, because of the presense of Siwini, has preserved only his fiery (volcano) and vegetal (poplar tree) natures.

Edited February 4, 2007 by Arpa

[SHENGAVIT]

UrarTurk?

 

yea, right...Los Armenios

[hagopn]

UrarTurk?

Look what is going on.

First it was the Hittites, I mean HitTurks.

The Turkish word for culture is "kultur", kulTurk?

 

David O’Byrne’s article

“Istanbul exhibit focuses on lost empire of Urartu” (Nov. 7)

 

It saddens me deeply that Turkey’s current government refuses, like all the previous ones, to let go of their revisionist history approach. O’Byrne is a serious reporter ­ it should not have been hard for him to cross north to Armenia and obtain a more accurate account of Urartu and its real history. With this article, O’Byrne might as well be on the Turkish government’s payroll.

 

O'Byrne comes from a long time and "proud" tradition of anti-Armenians by default due to their Russopobic attitudes inherited from especially Palmerston legacy. The Brits we know were ardent Turcophiles, as were their pro-Turkish and pro-Mongol political predecessors, the Venetians in many respects. (Venice, or, rather, the Venetian-Genoese alliance, too aided the Ottomans in their detruction of the Byzantine realm and the occupation of Constantinople was phyiscally accomplished partly by Venetian and Genoese naval and engineering corps. The siege engines were primarily Venetian and Genoese. )

 

However, to shed further light on the Soviet branch of anti-Armenian mis-interpretations of ancient (and midieval) Armenian history, one need to look at the foundations lain by Stalin in this interesting book.

 

http://www.rozanehmagazine.com/NoveDec05/PARTIIAzar.html

 

Diakonov and Pyotrovski were among those who were commissioned to strengthen the fantastic pan-Turkic claims by weakening Armenian claims. Diakonov has been openly attacked in Russia for his pro-Turkic and, by extension, strongly anti-Armenian biases.

 

 

[Sebastia]

I'm not too familiar with these subjects, so I use my logic most of the time.

 

As far as I know, Urartians did not speak Indo-european, neither did they call themselves Urartians. The word Urartu was never used by them, but the people around them called the region Urartu.

 

Now, as far as I understand, Urartu is just the Assyrian version of Ararat. One of the regions of Mets Hayq was called Ayrarat, which is around Masis mountain. So I assume Ararat is the hebrew version of Ayrarat. Not to mention that in the Bible it says that Noah's Arc landed on the mountains of Ararat, signifying that Ararat is a region and not a mountain.

 

 

 

If we break down the word Ayrarat, we get Ayr-arat

 

Ayr - the name of the race that speaks Indo-european.

Arat - I don't know. I remember reading a while ago that it meant land. Another place I read said that it means -given.

 

 

As we all know, the name Bagrat is originally Bagarat.

 

Bag - God

Arat - given?? such that Bagarat - Godgiven? Ayrarat - Ayrgiven?

 

the word Ayr is used a lot in our language, both in words and in place names, such as Avarayr.

 

 

 

The reason i'm bringing this up is because the world views Urartians as a race that does not speak indo-european. However, the land they live on is called Ayrarat by all their neighbors. This is like having a country called Ireland, and the people living there speak Japanese. Can we assume that the non indo-european speaking people (Argishti, and so on...) were actually intruders? As far as I know, us Armenians use a lot their words, so this whole thing is rather complicated.

Edited July 4, 2010 by Sebastia

[Zartonk]

Hello Sebastia,

 

I will elaborate on the subject later. For the time being, let's just mention that the syllabic cuneiforms can be read as either the vowel ɑ (Ա) or u (ՈՒ), as is the case with the consonants b (Բ) and v (Վ). When Archibald Sayce deciphered the texts, he ARBITRARILY assigned one of the either readings.

Therefore:

 

URARTU>ARARTA (Note that the middle 'A' was read as A)

ARARATA (Perhaps ԱՐԱՐԱՏ)

 

EREBUNI>EREVAN

Edited July 31, 2010 by Zartonk

[Arpa]

I'm not too familiar with these subjects, so I use my logic most of the time.

 

As far as I know, Urartians did not speak Indo-european, neither did they call themselves Urartians. The word Urartu was never used by them, but the people around them called the region Urartu.

Now, as far as I understand, Urartu is just the Assyrian version of Ararat. One of the regions of Mets Hayq was called Ayrarat, which is around Masis mountain. So I assume Ararat is the hebrew version of Ayrarat. Not to mention that in the Bible it says that Noah's Arc landed on the mountains of Ararat, signifying that Ararat is a region and not a mountain.

If we break down the word Ayrarat, we get Ayr-arat

Ayr - the name of the race that speaks Indo-european.

Arat - I don't know. I remember reading a while ago that it meant land. Another place I read said that it means -given.

As we all know, the name Bagrat is originally Bagarat.

Bag - God

Arat - given?? such that Bagarat - Godgiven? Ayrarat - Ayrgiven?

the word Ayr is used a lot in our language, both in words and in place names, such as Avarayr.

The reason i'm bringing this up is because the world views Urartians as a race that does not speak indo-european. However, the land they live on is called Ayrarat by all their neighbors. This is like having a country called Ireland, and the people living there speak Japanese. Can we assume that the non indo-european speaking people (Argishti, and so on...) were actually intruders? As far as I know, us Armenians use a lot their words, so this whole thing is rather complicated.

Congratulations. The fact that you spell your screen name with the B=Բ not P=Պ as an average diasporan would speaks well of you. You seem to be well versed in the subject, or in the least interested as a few of us, you may find the following thread interesting , and add your your wisdom.

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=14306

Ps. It is time that WE Armenians deepen in these matters rather than mouth what disinterested third parties like Germans, French, Latins and Russians have said. Aramazt mi arastse! those other cursed armenophobe neighbors of ours.

Yes. If one reads the biblical mention of Ararat, one will see that it says "On the mountainS (plural) of Ararat".

Gen.8

[4] And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

4Եօթներորդ ամսի քսանեօթին տապանը նստեց Արարատ լերան** վրայ։ (Singular)

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(**My hard copy of the Bible in Armenian says-Արարատ լեռներուն վրայ .(Plural)

I did not know this. Another mention of (kingdom of)Ararat)

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Jer.51

[27] Set ye up a standard in the land, blow the trumpet among the nations, prepare the nations against her, call together against her the kingdoms of Ararat, Minni, and Ashchenaz; appoint a captain against her; cause the horses to come up as the rough caterpillers.

28Դրօ՛շ բարձրացրէք երկրի վրայ, փո՛ղ փչեցէք բոլոր ազգերի մէջ, զօրագնդե՛ր կանչեցէք նրա դէմ։ Իմ կողﬕց հրամա՛ն տուէք Այրարատեան*** թագաւորութիւններին և ասքանազեան գնդին, նրա շուրջը նետաձիգ սարքե՛ր կանգնեցրէք

***The paper copy spells it as ԱրարաԴ, while the other above spells it as ԱրարաՏ. No wonder we are such a confused lot!!

Edited July 4, 2010 by Arpa

[Arpa]

Slowly but surely it will soon be declared that king Argishti was their ancestor. Ironically, their latter day god/founder was not born in the Land of Ararat, he was born thousands of miles to west in Macedonia, just as osman was born thousands of miles to the east.

Correction. It is fabled that osman had been born in the environs of Constantinople, once again thousands of miles away from Ararat/Ararta.

 

 

http://news.am/eng/news/43703.html

 

http://news.am/pic/news/43703.jpg

 

 

Turkish journalists visited the tomb of king of Urartu

 

January 04, 2011 | 09:32

Reporters from Turkish news agency Anadolu visited the famous cave fortress Horhor in Van, known as the tomb of the kings of Urartu.

 

Professor of archeology of Van University Rafet Cavusoglu who escorted the journalists, stated that Argishti 1, king of Urartu was buried in the cave.

 

Note that the carved inscription on the fortress of Van, provides important information about the time period of the reign of Argishti 1.

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Թուրք լրագրողներն այցելել են ուրարտական թագավորների հայտնի դամբարանը

 

Հունվար 04, 2011 | 09:32

Թուրքական Anadolu լրատվական գործակալության թղթակիցներն այցելել են Վանա բերդի հայտնի Խորխոր քարանձավ, որը հայտնի է ինչպես ուրարտական թագավորների դամբարան։

Թուրք լրագրողներին ուղեկցել է Վանի հարյուրամյա համալսարանի հնագիտության բաժնի դասախոս Ռաֆեթ Չավուշօղլուն, ով հյուրերին տեղեկացրել է, որ այդ դամբարանում է ամփոփվել Ուրարտուի թագավոր Արգիշտի 1-ինը։

Նշենք, որ Վանա բերդի ժայռին փորագրված Խորխորյան տարեգրությունը կարեւոր տեղեկություններ է տալիս Արգիշտի 1-ինի գահակալության ժամանակաշրջանի վերաբերյալ:

Edited January 4, 2011 by Arpa

[Arpa]

Urarturk?

Indeed!!

All this goes on while we are asleep, and while certain comedians masquerading as linguists tell us that the furkish name of a certain foodstuff is from the Urrtuan language.

 

See the Armenian version here;

http://www.yerakouyn.com/?p=37022

 

I have nor seen that garbage in the that furkish rag, neither do I want to. The below rebuttal tells us enough.

http://en.aravot.am/2013/08/16/156044/

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According to Hurriyet, presently activities are carried out in Turkey to receive 3D designs of Van kings gravestones through laser and the latest technologies; the work was taken up by the Department of History and Archaeology of the University in Istanbul. According to the same source, the Turks consider the gravestones the most important monuments of Urartu period. Naturally, all of this is attributed to the Turks.

Aravot.am asked Dr. Ashot Melkonyan, director of the ANAS Institute of History, Doctor of Historical Sciences, to give assessment to all that: Im not surprised, Turks have started to appropriate the history of Urartu long ago, and we certainly have a share of guilt in this. Unfortunately, there are directions in our historiography, which do not see Urartu as an integral part of Armenian statehood and consider an anti-Armenian state.

In the result of this approach to the history, our neighbors master the history of Urartu. The Turkish Historical Society, which was created in the 1930′s by Mustafa Kemal instruction, faced just a similar problem, to show just from the beginning the presence of Turks in this region, particularly, in Van kingdom. And, now they consider this issue resolved at the state level, they consider Urartu to be the first Turkish state in this region. I think that our historiography needs to finally give up the rotten concept of historiography, and fully presents Urartu as a unified Armenian state with its ethnic composition, like we tried to do it in high school textbooks, the same is now done in 6-9th grades textbook. Generally, in the issue of history of Urartu, not only Turks but Azeris, and partly Georgians have become claimants, in which our previous generation have their share of guilt,-says Mr. Melkonyan.

And what disturbs to counter the Turkish falsification on a state level? I repeat, there is a scientific point of view, according to which Urartu is not Armenian in reality, it is pre-Armenia, whose language was not Armenian, as if there was such a language, Urartian, which had nothing in common with Armenian language, and as if the kings of Urartu were not Armenian descent. Under these conditions, of course, there cannot be a state approach, when, unfortunately, there is no single approach in historical sciences. Anyway, the opinion of the Institute of History is unambiguously: Urartu is our kingdom of Ararat, the first unified Armenian state formation in the Armenian Highland, before which, still in the third millennium there were other state formations, as Araattan, Etiunin, Hayasa Azi and more. In other words, the history of Armenian statehood at least begins from the third millennium before Christ,-assures the scientist.

Gohar HAKOBYAN

[hagopn]

Arpa! Missed you very much. This thread brought to memory these topics, especially "Urartu", and compels me to write what's on my mind.

 

The syllabic cuneiform designation of "RRT" has only been discovered on later Assyian sources, while most later Babylonian sources use the designation of "R-SH-T", (including the one at Behisitun, which is the "Babylonian" R-Sh-T and not later Assyrian "RRT") which some have transliterated it as "Urashtu", which means "Land of Fire." The three languages on the Behisitun rock are Elamite ("Harminuap"), Babylonian "Urashtu", and Persian "Armina" or "Arminiya".

 

Both variants, "Uru-Atri" as well as "Ur-Ashtu" are well within indo-european lexicon, unless you have a blatantly anti-Armenian bias. "Atr, Atar" and "Asht" as in "Ashtanak" (which brings up the topic of Armenian to Pahlavi versus Pahlavi to Armenian influence) are still Armenian terms for "combustion, torch, pyre, fire" and so on.

 

This makes one tend to re-evaluate Gavoukjian's assertions, that possibly influenced V. Ivanov who picked up on this, that Sumerian and Armenian coexisted for quite a long time and subsequently both languages influenced the subsequent Mesopotamian languages, which is the precise opposite of the current prevailing paradigm. Another variant is the "Uru-atri" which has the same roots of "locale/land" (uru) and "fire" (atri). The "Urartu" form seems to be entirely arbitrary and subjective.

 

Sorry to sound too "linguistic" on this, but I can't find the other forum you proposed on this--

[Yervant1]

Hurriyet Daily News, Turkey
Oct 7 2014


Excavations shed light on Urartian's social life

VAN - Anadolu Agency

This year's works in the north part of the Van Castle have revealed
important data on social and cultural life of Urartian people. A trade
mandate is among the interesting findings in the excavation

The excavations that have been continuing for five years in the
tumulus located in the northern side of the Van Castle have unearthed
objects that shed light on social and cultural life of the Urartians.
Among the most interesting findings is trade tablet detailing
commercial information.

Istanbul University Van Region History and Archaeology Center Deputy
Director Assistant Professor Erkan Konyar is the head of the
centuries-old excavation field, where 35 academics are working.

The patterns of chariots that were produced 3,000 years ago in the
Urartian Kingdom, rare pots and pans from the 15th and 16th centuries,
a 5,000-year-old portable oven and 2,700-year-old jewelry have been so
far unearthed in the tumulus. Bronze fibulas, a trade mandate and
civic settlements of the Urartian public are among this season's
discoveries, according to Konyar.

He said that during this season's works, Urartian houses were found in
civic settlements and their architecture structure showed that the
houses belonged to the people who were working to meet the needs of
the royal people living in the citadels.

"Most of the findings have civic characters. Among the most important
findings of this year is a tablet of mandate, which has commercial
content. It is about products that were dispatched from here. It is
very important to understand commercial relations. Maybe this place
was the house of a clerk, and kiln tablets had been written here. It
is now being scientifically examined," he said.

Konyar said most of the excavations on the Urartian era were carried
out in castles and revealed the life style of the king. "Not much is
known about the civic life in the Urartian era. This is why the
excavations in the tumulus are very important."

He added that inside the Urartian people's houses they had found ovens
and foodstuffs. "We see that the traditional house culture in Van also
existed in the Urartian era. We see the reflections of the Urartians
today. Ovens and cellars, which are seen in Van houses today, are also
seen in the Urartian houses. Houses do not have a certain order. They
were arranged to meet the needs of the people living there. Their
architecture is different. This is why further excavations are very
important. It was also a surprise for us that the houses were
preserved well. Walls still survive. The tumulus will provide us very
important data to determine the history of the city," Konyar said.

October/07/2014

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POLISH ARCHAEOLOGISTS MAKE INTERESTING DISCOVERIES IN ARMENIA

by Karina Manukyan

Wednesday, December 10, 12:00

Archaeologists from the Institute of Archaeology, University of Warsaw
discovered evidence of destruction and capture of the ancient city of
Metsamor, one of the most famous archaeological sites in the vicinity
of Yerevan.

"In the entire area of research we found layers of burning and ash.

The city was probably captured by the army of Argishti I, the ruler
of Urartu" - told PAP (PAP - Science and Scholarship in Poland)
Krzysztof Jakubiak, head of the project.

Argishti I was the king of Urartu, the biblical Kingdom of Ararat in
the Armenian Highlands. During his reign, the boundaries of the state
expanded to the Caucasus, the area of today's Yerevan. Other findings
of Polish archaeologists are evidence of the fighting and cruelty.

Among them is a skeleton of about 30 years old woman, whose head was
cut off, and of another person with a split skull.

"We believe that both of them were killed during the attack on the
city" - added Dr. Jakubiak. The discovered remains were not buried
in the tombs, only randomly scattered among the buildings of the
so-called lower town. What drew the attention of researchers was a
small amount of finds in the form of historical objects, which may
illustrate the scale of predatory Urartu invasion.

The invaders did not spare the holy shrines. Archaeologists found
a small, oval urban sanctuary, which had been looted during the
invasion. Inside, on stone platforms, they discovered broken pottery
and one vessel preserved in its entirety, made of stone. Metsamor is
a protected archaeological reserve. Excavations within the reserve
have been conducted for almost 50 years. Previous studies have shown
that during the heyday from the fourth to the second millennium BC,
the settlement occupied more than 10 hectares and was surrounded by
monumental walls.

In the early days of iron period, from the eleventh to the ninth
century, Metsamor had grown to nearly 100 acres. The central part of
the fortress was surrounded by temple complexes with seven shrines. At
that time, it was one of the most important political and cultural
centres in the Aras Valley.

>From the eighth century BC, Metsamor became part of the Kingdom of
Urartu. The place was continuously inhabited until the seventeenth
century. Polish archaeologists began excavations in Metsamor in 2013.

The project was possible thanks to an agreement signed between the
Institute of Archaeology, University of Warsaw - in consultation with
the authorities of the Centre of Mediterranean Archaeology UW - with
the Institute of Archaeology of the Armenian Academy of Sciences of
and the Ministry of Culture of Armenia.

http://www.arminfo.am/index.cfm?objectid=F96EF050-804A-11E4-B6280EB7C0D21663

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TURKEY AND THE ARMENIAN CULTURAL LEGACY

19:12, 20 Mar 2015
Siranush Ghazanchyan

On April 18, the day for protection of monuments, the Erebuni"
Historical & Archaeological Museum-Reserve in Yerevan will host an
exhibition on "The Urartian Heritage of Western Armenia," Head of
IOMOS Armenia Office and Director of Erebuni Museum Gagik Gyurjyan
told reporters today.

"This is our legacy and we must be the masters of it at least by
organizing such exhibitions," he said.

Speaking about Turkey's state policy on the protection of
Armenian monuments, Gyurjyan said Ankara pays great attention to
historical-architectural sites on its territory, including Armenian
ones, out of considerations of development of tourism.

Turkey also pretends to be civilized and tolerant towards Armenian
legacy, he added. He noted that the most important Armenian site
of the territory of Turkey is undoubtedly the ancient city of Ani,
where serious research works are being conducted.

According to Gagik Gyurjyan, Turkey consistently destroys the Armenian
cultural trace dated before the 4thcentury. This refers to the Urartian
period, the Kingdom of Van, etc.

http://www.armradio.am/en/2015/03/20/turkey-and-the-armenian-cultural-legacy/

[Yervant1]

Historians Believe They Have Found
Kingdom of Uratu Tombs in Turkey

By Sam Matthew
Daily Telegraph

VAN, Turkey - Using just a small hand trowel archaeologists are
painstakingly working to unlock the secrets of an ancient kingdom.
Historians believe they have unearthed tombs dating back over 2,800
years in Van, eastern Turkey.
The pithos burial chambers, which are like large ceramic jars, are
thought to be from the Kingdom of Uratu, which ruled the country from
the mid-ninth century BC until its defeat by the Medes.
Painstaking: Archaeologists believe these 2,800-year-old pithos tombs
from the Kingdom of Uratu
Historians at work in the Turkish town of Vans, which was the capital
of the Urartian Kingdom
Vans was the capital of the Urartian Kingdom until it fell early in
the sixth century BC.
Every summer a team of around 50 archaeologists take part in an annual
excavation at Van Fortress in a bid to uncover treasures that have
been buried for thousands of years.
With permission from the country's Ministry of Culture and Tourism
university teams have been working together.
They are currently working at the top of the fortress, where a palace
was located, and the northern quarter.
'Our work is aimed at repairing and further protecting Old Van City,'
Dr Erkan Konyar from Istanbul University said, according to Todays
Zaman.
'We are carrying out work to protect the areas that we have worked on
in previous years. '
Just 38km from Van excavation work is also taking place at a Uratu
Castle. This year they discovered part of the walls.
Head of Excavation Doç. Dr. Mehmet IÅ=9Fıklı, told Hurriyet Daily
News: 'This made us very excited, as even though these walls witnessed
great earthquakes, their architecture remained quite robust and
unchanged.

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SCIENTISTS EXPLORE ODZABERD: ONE OF THE BIGGEST URARTU FORTRESSES OF SEVAN BASIN

18:35, 28 September, 2015

YEREVAN, SEPTEMBER 28, ARMENPRESS. Armenian and Italian archaeologists
are engaged in in-depth exploration of one of the biggest Urartu
fortresses of Sevan basin, Odzaberd dating back to 10-6 century BC.

Ashot Piliposyan, Deputy Director in the field of scientific activities
of "Service for the Protection of Historical Environment and Cultural
Museum Reservations" SNCO informed the journalists about this.

"Tsovinar archaeological monument has been discovered long ago and
a number of renowned archaeologists, including Boris Piotrovsky and
Gedeon Mikaelyan, worked and explored it. But the explorations were
on a small-scale and since now no large-scale exploration had been
conducted", "Armenpress" reports that Ashot Piliposyan informed.

The archaeologist added that the first large-scale excavations were
conducted last year by Armenian-Italian group of archaeologists
and the results are encouraging. The archaeologists had discovered
inhabitations dating back to Urartu and post-Urartu era. Pre-Urartian
layers have also been discovered in one of the rooms of the discovered
inhabitation the Odzbaberd citadel.

http://armenpress.am/eng/news/820195/scientists-explore-odzaberd-one-of-the-biggest-urartu-fortresses-of-sevan-basin.html

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2,800-year-old Urartian sewage system unearthed in Van

12:55 • 28.09.16

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An ancient Urartian sewage system, which was first discovered during excavations in 2004 in the Çavuştepe Castle in the eastern province of Van, has been unearthed, the Hurriyet Daily News reports.

This year’s works in the castle in the Gürpınar district of Van recently came to an end, after unearthing ancient vineyards, walls, cisterns, temples and palace structures.

The 2,800-year-old sewage system, which was discovered in the castle in 2004, was finally unearthed under the structures in the western part of the castle. The sewage is one meter in width and 30 meters in length and covered with fine stones.

The head of the Culture and Tourism Ministry-supported excavations, Rafet Çavuşoğlu, an associate professor in the Archaeology Department of Yüzüncü Yıl University, said the Çavustepe Castle was particularly important in history because it was once located on a major trading route.

“The Urartians thought carefully about what to build and where. They did everything in line with a project. When establishing this city 2,800 years ago, the Urartians made an urban plan and built structures according to infrastructure. This is very important to us. We found an engineering marvel here,” Çavuşoğlu said.

He added that the sewage system was built with stone and inside was a gutter through which water flowed.

‘A very good system’

“This work defines civilization to us. It shows how ancient civilization was developed. There is also a toilet in the palace section. The toilet water flows outside through the sewage system, which reveals that the Urartians were a very civilized society,” Çavuşoğlu said.

“During the construction of houses today, an excellent system is planned with schools, hospitals, mosques and infrastructure. Urartians did the same 2,800 years ago,” he added.

The city established around the castle was nearly one kilometer in diameter and surrounded by protective walls, according to the excavations head.

“Measures were taken against the danger of enemies. Large dikes were opened up on both the eastern and western sides. They made their defense system in this way,” Çavuşoğlu stated.

http://www.tert.am/en/news/2016/09/28/Urartian-Van/2146490

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Culture 12:25 24/01/2017 Armenia

Archaeological finds of Urartian era discovered in Armenia’s Gegharkunik region

The material values dating back to the Urartian (Van) kingdom period which have recently been discovered in Gegharkunik region of Armenia, are being cleaned and restored in the restoration laboratory of Protection Service SNCO of Armenia. The service informed Panorama.am that certain findings stand out in terms of their form and preparation method, namely the red, polished jug-cup with two lugs, the ancient clay bawl, the two large oval agate beads, engraved inserts made of animal vertebrae bones, the remains of iron daggers and spears and some others are of paramount importance. The anthropological and animal remains make up a large part of the findings.

According to Deputy of the SNCO’s Director on scientific works, Doctor of Historical Sciences, Professor Ashot Piliposyan the archaeological finds which are currently under study are exceptional and date back to the 7th century BC.

“We received a call from the Geological Museum of Gegharkunik noting that the villagers have accidentally come across archaeological findings during the construction works, however they could not manage to acquire the important materials due to the lack of funds. We headed to the scene to study the area to find out that a mausoleum of Urartian period had really been discovered near the cemetery in Hatsarat village of Gavar. Following the talks the inhabitant who had discovered the archaeological findings agreed to completely hand it over to the Protection Service SNCO,” Ashot Piliposyan noted.

The objects will be cleaned and restored to later be displayed as part of Metsamor Historical and Archaeological Museum-Reserve's permanent exhibition of Urartian era.

In the words of Ashot Piliposyan the remains of the human beings are of paramount importance. Currently the material is being studied by SNCO’s archaeologist Hasmik Simonyan. “Human and animal bones have been found out in the mausoleum. The current study shows that they belonged to five adults four of whom were men. It is already clear that those men have suffered spine diseases. We have launched the activities of joining the bones which will be followed by skull restoration, which is the most difficult part as the skull bones are crushed. The skull studies will reveal the death causes of those people,” he noted.

Due to Hasmik Simonyan’s hard and responsible work it will be possible to acquire important information on the lifestyle of the Urartian people.

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Hungary Police find Urartu-era bronze antiquities in a truck

12:56, 10 Feb 2017

Siranush Ghazanchyan

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Hungarian police say they have finished their investigation of a trove of Persian, Sumerian and Assyrian antiquities found last year in a truck, the Associated Press reports.

Police in Bacs-Kiskun County said Wednesday that bronze objects from as early as 900 B.C. were among the dozens of items recovered.

The artifacts, including a helmet, small bells and horse tack, were likely from the grave of a high-raking military officer from Urartu, also called the Kingdom of Van, corresponding to parts of modern Armenia and Turkey.

Police found the objects during a routine search on Sept. 29 of a truck going to Lithuania. They have recommended that the Turkish driver be charged with receiving stolen goods.

The entire collection is estimated to be worth up to $690,000.

https://youtu.be/LnTeDyegoSc

http://www.armradio.am/en/2017/02/10/hungary-police-find-urartu-era-bronze-antiquities-in-a-truck/

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Financial Tribune, Iran

Oct 5 2017

National Museum in Tehran to Show Armenia’s Urartu Relics

A n estimated 103 ancient artifacts from Armenia will be on display in Tehran from October 17-January 17.

Accompanied by two representatives from the History Museum of Armenia in Yerevan, the artifacts arrived in Iran on Tuesday, and were safely taken to the National Museum in Tehran, ISNA reported.

The relics date back to prehistoric times, from the 4th millennium BC to the first century BC. They will be displayed at the museum under the banner of ‘Iran & Armenia: Memory of a Realm.’

The focus of the event is on those artifacts that hint at the civilization of Urartu, an Iron Age kingdom that flourished around Lake Van in eastern Anatolia. The first joint chapter of history between Iran and Armenia is said to have taken place in Urartu.

The event is the product of a memorandum signed between Iran’s Cultural Heritage, Handicrafts and Tourism Organization and Armenia’s Ministry of Culture. It is organized on the occasion of National Museum of Iran’s 80th anniversary, according to director general of the museum, Jibrael Nokandeh.

“The museum will showcase a collection of South Korean artifacts next month, and in late winter over 60 relics from the Louvre Museum in Paris, the largest museum in the world,” Nokandeh said.

Relics discovered during archaeological excavations in provinces of Semnan and Gilan will also be on display at the exhibition.

https://financialtribune.com/articles/art-and-culture/73541/national-museum-in-tehran-to-show-armenia-s-urartu-relics?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=social

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Conveniently no mention of Armenians, Turks fooling no one but themselves!

Title: 3,000-year-old underwater castle discovered in Turkey's largest lake | Inhabitat - Green Design, Innovation, Architecture, Green Building

https://inhabitat.com/3000-year-old-underwater-castle-discovered-in-turkeys-largest-lake/

3,000-year-old underwater castle discovered in Turkey’s largest lake News

Lake Van is the largest lake in Turkey – but that isn’t its only claim to fame. Van Yüzüncü Yil University archaeologists and a team of divers recently discovered an underwater fortress there. The ancient nation of Urartu could have built the castle roughly around 3,000 years ago during the Iron Age.

The team explored the lake based on local rumors of ancient ruins, despite other archaeologists familiar with the area telling them they probably wouldn’t find much. But the rumors turned out to be correct: diving team head Tahsin Ceylan told Turkey’s newswire service Andalou Agency the archaeological site is around one kilometer, or a little over half a mile, large. The fortress walls that they can see are between 10 to 13 feet in size.

Related: Haunting drowned figures send a chilling message in Europe’s first undersea sculpture museum

 

 

Some of the remains are loose piles of stones, others are smooth walls, according to National Geographic. Visual assessments led the team to estimate the underwater castle is around 3,000 years old. It would have been built when the lake’s water level was hundreds of meters lower. According to ScienceAlert, Lake Van’s water levels have fluctuated dramatically throughout the years.

Urartu, a kingdom that flourished between the ninth and sixth centuries BCE, was centered around Lake Van, according to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Other archaeological remains in the area, some higher than the current shoreline, are also the subject of study. And archaeologists and divers plan to return to the lake the learn more about the recently found sunken fortress. They’re not yet sure how deep the walls might be buried in lake floor sediment, and they hope to learn more about the people who inhabited the castle.

Via National Geographic and ScienceAlert

Images via National Geographic on YouTube

 

 

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The Mirror, UK
November 22, 2017 Wednesday 9:20 PM GMT


Forgotten fortress discovered beneath lake not seen for 3,000 years
since it was flooded

The castle has 13ft walls and the site spans more than a kilometre -
but no-one ever believed it existed despite local rumours of secrets
hidden beneath the surface

By Joshua Taylor


A forgotten underwater fortress has been discovered by a team
ofarchaeologists3,000 years after it was flooded in a lake.

The site of the ancient building measures nearly 1km across and the
walls are up to 13ft hight.

It was found by expert divers in Turkey's Lake Van, in the east of the
country near the Iranian border.

The lake did not exist during the time of the Iron Age Urartu
civilisation, which spanned parts of modern day Turkey, Armenia and
Iran and whose people built the castle.

Large Urartu ruins that predate the lake also stand around its shores,
but the fortress is completely submerged.

Ancient Mayan secrets could be unlocked with discovery of mysterious
blocked passageway inside 1,000-year-old temple

National Geographicreported the fortress was found by explorers from
Van Yüzüncü Yil University, working alongside expert divers.

Tahsin Ceylan, head of the diving team, said the explorers were told
there was little left to find beneath the waters of Lake Van.

But they pressed ahead based on local rumours about buries treasures
below the surface.

Life behind the Iron Curtain: Inside abandoned Soviet military bases,
ghost towns and a hidden city once home to thousands

Videos show the divers swimming in the clear blue waters and
inspecting the brick walls of the fortress.

"Studies were done on the underwater portion of the historic Urartian
castle in our city, revealing it to be nearly 3,000 years old,"
Adilcevaz district governor Arif Karaman toldHurriyet Daily News.

Ceylan added: "It is a miracle to find this castle underwater.
Archaeologists will come here to examine the castle's history and
provide information on it."

The ancient inhabitants of Lake Van moved as the water levels began to rise.

Lake Van is now 74 miles across and has a maximum depth of 1,480ft.

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Let them (Turks) what they want to say , world knows history better them (Turks) , it is very good that doing (Turks) this kind of history changing , more and more you are going to a*******e.